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Is Sony's Adaptive Difficulty A Good Idea?

Sony has been reported to be considering adding adaptive difficulty to all of its games. This feature would likely allow gamers to play more difficult games that usually have a skilled player barrier and also make it so hardcore gamers can get a good experience out of typically easier games.

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shinoff2183110d ago

I don't see an issue. I'm also sure it'd be an option that you could turn off to.

jambola110d ago

If optional yes
if not, awful idea

ApocalypseShadow110d ago (Edited 110d ago )

It should be optional but it would be more interesting to see gamers play more advanced AI. It's been a request since the beginning that NPCs and bots were more intelligent and tougher and not be stupid cannon fodder. This AI I'm guessing will adapt to the player. Which is cool. If the gamer sucks, the AI will suck. If the gamer is a bad ass, the AI will kick some ass and take names.

Based on GT7 Sophy, AI will definitely give gamers a run for their money.

jambola110d ago

sure
but I also don't ever want a case of playing a game I want to be hard, but then it get's easier because I die too much and removes that option
if it's 100% optional, I'm all for it
even ai adapting I'm not against
just any crap like, "you died too much so boss will suck to let you win easier" crap

Noskypeno110d ago

Yeah like everyone said, it should be optional. Sometimes I like to relax from the competitive mp and play a single player that's challenging but in a predictable way. I'll probably use it at times but sometimes I just want to have a soldier yell grenade 5 seconds before he throws it at you in perfect English.

ZeekQuattro110d ago

I don't have a problem with it. A number of games do this already depending on your playstyle.

porkChop110d ago

If you can turn it off? Sure. If it's forced, no it's a terrible idea. Imagine wanting a tougher experience but because you die a few times the game lowers the difficulty. That kind of defeats the purpose of the harder difficulty.

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Sony Wants to Know: 'Does Busting Make You Feel Good?'

A new ad for the PS VR2 sees Sony asking fans if "busting" makes them "feel good," leading to a lot of jokes online.

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Plague-Doctor27162d ago

Apparently this is a reference to Ghostbusters...??

blackblades162d ago

Didn't sound like it, sounds dirty

The_Hooligan161d ago

First it was the 19" of venom and now this 😂. Who's in charge of Sony's marketing team? lol

SICKINDIVIDUAL161d ago

Aww...snowflakes...too much for y'all to handle?

I remember a time when people weren't offended by this type of advertising.

Don't forget your helmet if going outside.

raWfodog161d ago

@sickindividual

I’m thinking how people these days would react to an ad showing an old lady asking “Where’s the beef?!”

blackblades161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

@raWfodog
Ads these days be so lewd. Like there's this one had on tv about internet speed saying "I need some of that big gig energy in my life" then sip on some tea with the Look while garage door slowly goes down. I'm not new to it at all cause theres been plenty over the years

raWfodog161d ago

@blackblades
We use to laugh at the ‘naughty’ ads back in the days but people today get so offended at the suggestion of sex in ads. It’s a different world.

Barlos161d ago

Nah, it sounds like a reference to Ghostbusters. That was the first thing that sprung to mind.

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Duke19161d ago

I ain’t ‘fraid of no ghost

zeuanimals161d ago

Let me tell you somethin'

FullmetalRoyale161d ago

You're right, no human being would use "bust" like that.

fr0sty161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

"Oh, Uh... There was a ghost! Uh-uh-uh... This is ectoplasm! Did you see the ghost? It ran through here and s-- it slimed me! That wasn't me it was a spooky ghost!"

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gold_drake162d ago

in general, yes. very good. lol

gold_drake162d ago

not gonna lie, that does feel good. ha.

-Foxtrot162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

Depends on my mood...

OtterX162d ago

It feels good whether you're in the mood or not.

The thing is, bustin' chooses you. You never know when it'll show up.

.... and just to be clear, we're talking about ghostbusting. 🙄

OtterX162d ago

Leaves me feelin' like a Marshmallow Man.

P_Bomb162d ago

That’s not ectoplasm! 😏

OtterX162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

😂😂😂
I ain't fraid of no ghost!

https://legendsrevealed.com...

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Sony: "Portion" of PlayStation First-Party Games Changes in Launch Date Impacted Profitability

According to Sony, changes to the launch dates of a "portion of first-party titles" impacted the company's profitability.

P_Bomb262d ago

“No word on which games were delayed, though”

Et tu, Factions? 🤔

KyRo262d ago

We barely know anything coming from Sony. It's all very quiet. Whatever they are doing they are playing it very differently to how they usually do it. For the people who aren't massively into superheros, it's a bit dry at the moment on the exclusive front.

isarai262d ago

I don't know why people are disagreeing, we only know of Spider-Man and Wolverine. We don't have any official announcement of anything else. It's been quiet for an unusual amount of time for PlayStation.

CS7261d ago

But we have the Gran Turismo movie and a live service game from Horizon /s

shinoff2183261d ago (Edited 261d ago )

Exactly why I got an xbox , starfield is way more intriguing then Spiderman 2. I'm not really into the superhero stuff. To this day I say my favorite ones were the ultimate alliance games. Spiderman 1 was pretty cool but I doesn't excite me like a starfield or rpg. I'm more excited for store ocean 2 remake then Spiderman 2. My ps5 will have some really deserved cool off time once starfield releases.

jivah261d ago

Crazy thing is that they've been eerily quiet on the Sony front. Like to the point where the let loose a few announcements just to tide us over. But we still have no idea the mountain of stuff that's on the way and being worked on. And to think its been this way since a large majority of gamers complained a few years ago, that Sony showed too much in advanced. And since then, they've held on super tight. Its never been this way.

Hedstrom261d ago (Edited 261d ago )

Am i the only one who is excited for Helldivers 2? I think it looks super fun.

https://youtube.com/watch?v...

FinalFantasyFanatic261d ago

@Hedstrom
I'm low key interested for the Starship Troopers vibe, unfortunately I couldn't get any friends to play the first game with me.

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seanpitt23261d ago

Ps5 lack of 1st party games is really showing 3 years into this gen and it's been pretty bad! All we have to look forward to is GOAS

PunksOnN4G261d ago

Lol funny xbox has had a last of 1st party for over 5-6 years now yal lcoming out saying its a problem for PS but did not once during those 6 years LOL xbox kids down bad but i get bros been last place for over a decade LOL

Amplitude261d ago (Edited 261d ago )

Sony's got some ballers in it's arsenal of games. I'd argue way better quality and quantity than Microsoft's got but neither are particularly amazing.

Im a bit underwhelmed by this entire gen on both fronts tbh. Lack of any sort of quality DLSS competitor on AMD's side of things really affected both of these consoles to an extreme and really kinda forced me to switch to PC this gen, which is where i've mostly just been playing older games anyway. I sold my Series X and just use the PS5 for the exclusives and multiplayer stuff with my friends. I kinda wish the entire concept of consoles would go away with how this gen is going. Subscription service wars, microtransactions, paid online which is still insane to me, flat out stupid game pricing with very little in the way of actual upgraded game concepts beyond graphics settings bump ups, practically completely unsupported borderline scam accessories like the PSVR2 and dumb nonsense like the PSVR1 requiring a separate camera than the PS5 Camera. Hell we only just recently even got basic amenities like 1440p and Dolby Atmos over on PS5, and Atmos is almost unusable on the Series consoles.

The software experience and the hardware's all hella disappointing tbh and Insomniac Games is really the only company i can think of pushing the hardware to an extreme at the moment, with their SSD craziness in Ratchet and Spiderman 2, 60FPS RT and 40FPS modes, 3D audio, crazy impressive animation and post processing effects and clear benefits to the actual games. Mad props to them man

fr0sty261d ago

Series S/X didn't have a single first party exclusive game for the first 2 years of their lives... yet certain folks were curiously quiet about that...

CS7261d ago

Why in high heavens is everything about Xbox vs PS5 in here?

It is an article about the PS5.

Xbox's first party output has been garbage for over a decade, no one cares.

Playstation's known upcoming offerings is probably the driest it has ever been in three generations and these kids only care about "hurrr durrrr but but Xbox has even less games!11!!!!"

I don't care about Xbox, I bought a Playstation to play next generation exclusives and that HAS been lacking this gen and the future really isn't looking too bright.

InUrFoxHole261d ago (Edited 261d ago )

Surprise! Here comes the but but the other system... Dude just accept it for what it is. You can't keep covering for these companies like they care about you. They'll screw you over every chance they get, just to grab your $$$. The sooner you stop protecting that piece of plastic the sooner you can see things as a consumer and demand better.

FinalFantasyFanatic261d ago (Edited 261d ago )

I've been pretty disappointed with PS this gen, I haven't even felt much of a need to invest in a PS5 yet.

I really miss those really great games, especially JRPGs, which is why I'm happy to help fund games on Kickstarter like Armed Fantasia, 100 Heroes, Penny Blood... I'm still on the fence about whether I'll help out with Ratatan yet, Sony just isn't helping fund these games or giving them the support to thrive on their console this gen.

fr0sty260d ago

You call yourself final fantasy fanatic and yet you see no reason to invest in ps5, despite two of the best games in the series being released this year for it?

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Ashunderfire86262d ago

We got so many games coming out this year, why even complain? Many games are making their target release date. Sony got some VR games as well coming and a horror survival game this month for PS5

Ashunderfire86262d ago

Yes Fort Solis PS5 console exclusive, and Daymare 1994 all this month! Horror survival or Survival horror you know what I mean 😆 you can Google all this info like I did. PS5 also has Spiderman 2 we obviously know coming October and HellDivers 2! For the 2 people that disagree needs to do a Google search! This year is stacked with games already.

DOMination-262d ago

Chasing the live service genre is a huge gamble. If they get one hit that's on par with today's heavy hitters, then the investment will be worth it 100x. But history tells us that a huge % of these titles fail - even ones from established studios with AAA budgets.

Over the last two generations, Sony have excelled in making brilliant cinematic single player games. Those games helped them to be the number 1 publisher for both revenue and profits and by quite some distance. Hopefully the lack of releases recently isn't a sign of the business pivoting to a completely different model because frankly, that'll suck. The current model is both commercially and critically successfully so it doesn't need changing on a whim just to chase the GaaS big bucks! #prayforplaystation

Chevalier262d ago

Agreed I really hope they don't pivot too much into GaaS and have a balanced approach with lots of single player story driven games mixed in.

Tacoboto261d ago

Oh they're so in on GaaS that they led their last showcase with a GaaS title that even has a $ in the name.

Magatsuhi261d ago

They have to pivot. With MS buying up everything they can't be reliant on the revenue brought in by 3rd party games anymore and that's what they use to fund alot of these 1st party games. So now they need a successful gaas game to bring in that extra cash flow to fund more 1st party games.

Chevalier261d ago

"Oh they're so in on GaaS that they led their last showcase with a GaaS title that even has a $ in the name."

And yet Playstation releases SP games regularly and Goty ones too. What's the last Goty Xbox game?! Oh right nothing AAA Goty in how many years?! Lol.

Don't get me wrong Xbox has some SP games on the way, but, so far not consistently and no Goty contenders that come close to Playstation.

Amplitude258d ago (Edited 258d ago )

I'd argue that Hi-Fi Rush is a solid candidate for GOTY. That was a good-ass game.
That's about it though lol

talocaca261d ago

Hopefully that means a packed 2024.

I'm mostly surprised that we still don't even know what their major studios are up to. Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog (single player), Bluepoint, Team Asobi, Media Molecule....

Amplitude258d ago (Edited 258d ago )

I kinda get it. These games take forever to develop and Sony's been announcing games much closer to their release dates these days which I think is smart.

Asobi and Media Molecule though, yeah - been a real long while. I still really do think Dreams is salvageable if Sony put in an ounce of effort. Could even be a huge system-seller with a rebrand, ad campaign, pc release, and maybe even a free version of the "Play" mode with ads that could pay creators. The general public doesn't even know Dreams exists and i think anybody that does know it exists would entirely approve of pushing it in any new way

Petebloodyonion261d ago

No Sh+t Louise, Delaying a game to the next quarter means that we won't have the profit of that game this quarter like we budget last year!

I'm Glad we have a complete article on the main page explaining these important things.

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Sony confirms more PC ports are coming, because it's making a ton of money

Sony reaffirmed that it will continue to release first-party games on PC, and it's not hard to see why.

kenpachi364d ago

"because it's making a ton of money"

not likely most ps games on pc break past 1 million number they spend more money fixing shody ports like tlou on pc

"It's impossible to say exactly how much of the jump can be attributed directly to PC game sales" or the fact ps5 consoles or more in stock now than before

GotGame818364d ago

A lot of gamers prefer PC. For one upgrades come out far more often than consoles. Playstation, and Nintendo consoles do not have mod communities either. Xbox does, but it isn't as large as, on PC.

Number1TailzFan364d ago

Keyboard and mouse IMO is almost essential for certain games as well, like RTS, management/builder style games, and of course FPS.

ManMarmalade364d ago

I like using my PC to play snes and ps1 games haha

VariantAEC364d ago

If that were true most gamers would be on PC primarily...

But they aren't!

darthv72364d ago

So far the ones they have released work pretty good on steamdeck. Im not going to complain if they keep that trend going.

Yui_Suzumiya364d ago (Edited 364d ago )

I only use my laptop for eroge (18+ visual novels) and everything else is on my Switch OLED. FPS, RPG, horror and visual novels.

MADGameR363d ago

Yea but if you are the average PC gamer that's got a rig that is only going to run those PS5 games at 1080p 120FPS, it is a waste of money to settle for an average PC.

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ModsDoBetter364d ago

Official PlayStation PC Sales Numbers Revealed by Sony (2022)

Horizon Zero Dawn
• 2.39m
• $60 Million in Revenue

Days Gone
• 852k
• $22.7 Million in Revenue

God of War
• 971k
• $26.2 Million in Revenue

Kind of blows your “not likely most ps games on pc break 1 million” out of the water there.

Minute Man 721364d ago

You think GOW would have sold more

Machina364d ago

The GoW figure was revealed less than two months after it launched, which is why it seems low in comparison.

Days Gone was 10 months of sales, and Horizon was 17 months.

Philaroni363d ago

Did Returnal numbers every get posted? I feel that type of game would really appeal to the PC player. Bullet hell games and such are very popular on PC. They don't sell too much in the first place but then again they don't cost $300 million to make.

IamTylerDurden1364d ago (Edited 364d ago )

If they didn't make money they wouldn't continue. Simmer on that logic Columbo..

IamTylerDurden1364d ago

Or investigate it. Columbo, u know, Columbo...

jukins364d ago

Its not that the games sell particularly spectacular its just that the ROI is incredibly high since most of the workcis already done. For example horizon had over a 360% ROI when it debuted on pc

ShoryuSwordsman364d ago

It's not that crazy, they're just porting a game and getting mostly profit, because they don't have to spend anything on actually creating a game. It's like being able to profit off of a ten year old movie, just by releasing it in theaters overseas. So of course they would, but I think that trend will only be lucrative to them for games already made.

TheCaptainKuchiki364d ago

1 million extra sales bring them ton of money yes.
The cost of porting and fixing bugs is definitely lower than the revenue brought from PC ports.
Remember that those games already broke even on PS. It's just bonus money for them.

Philaroni363d ago

"not likely most ps games on pc break past 1 million number they spend more money fixing shody ports like tlou on pc"

To be honest I'm not disagreeing with you on the TLOU port, that was done by the same guys that did the Batman PC port and that was kind of shit too, thing is Sony has a great track record of updating and fixing things on PC the best they can as fast as they can, I play on an ultra wide and thus far there games on PC have supported it very well.

Reality is, PC games as of late have been utter shit this year and for a while. Unless its a PC only type of game. The down trend in PC quality of games that are made for PS5 and Xbox first is kind of logical, PC does not make the kind of gaming $$$ it use too. Driver support and accounting for all the different hardware configurations alone is a mess. Hell it too Microsoft forever to fix 'ish' Halo MCC and the latest one on PC. This has always been the case with PC games, very rare does anything come out on PC that works perfectly with out issues, something as simple as one background application could mess things up, they can't force you to update drivers and have to develop things on a wildcard like environment. Though like others here have said, Mods on PC and such and the ability if you have the know how to fix things on your own and improve it is where PC really shines.

To be a real PC gamer you have to put in some work of your own, that is hard if not impossible for many who are not in the tech field to do, thus why all the cash for these places come from consoles first.

I am curious though to those of you here that maybe have AMD cards. Since both Sony and MS use AMD chips and drivers, I'd assume just by the nature from that to PC if you have the same hardware. "Both CPU and GPU" that there might be less issues. I'm on Intel and Nvidia still, and things work rather fine but its older more proven hardware... my other rig is Intel with an AMD GPU and there has been some weird cluster fuckery at times even thought that rig is more powerful on paper.

Just my 2 cents.

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bleedsoe9mm364d ago

Day and date just a matter of time

tay8701364d ago

Eh, I don't no man, That's alot of extra work for each studio. If it does ever happen, it won't be for quite some time.

UltimateRacer364d ago

Day and Date won’t happen except for Live Service that need a big player base to survive. Single player will remain on PlayStation first then be ported a year/ 2 years later or maybe never.

Imalwaysright364d ago

If third party devs can do it for 3 platforms I don't see any reason as to why Sony's 1st party devs can't do it for 2 platforms.

DarkZane364d ago

@bleedsoe9mm It won't happen, you will have to wait 2-3 years for a game to be ported and not all of them will be ported either.

Crows90364d ago

Except horizon fw was 1 year.

DarkZane364d ago (Edited 364d ago )

@Crows90 I don't know what you're talking about, Horizon Zero Dawn came out on PS4 in 2017 and on PC in 2020, that's 3 years in between.

Horizon Forbidden West came out in 2022 and a year later, it hasn't come out on PC and there is absolutely no sign it's coming out soon. In fact, a PC release hasn't been announced at all yet. You will probably need to wait another year for a PC release at least, but it's likely going to be 2 years.

TheCaptainKuchiki364d ago

@Crows90 you people need to check your facts before you even start typing anything. Smh

Aloymetal364d ago

And still most PS gamers wouldn't bat an eyelid, haven't you seen the record numbers of PS consoles sales on a global scale even tho a bunch of Sony 1st party exclusives are on PC right now???

IamTylerDurden1364d ago

The XB rally cry going on how many years now? A scare tactic to devalue the PS hardware. The only day n date in the forseeable future will be service games, primarily f2p.

darkrider363d ago

We already know that doesnt work.

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GamerDude82364d ago

So Microsoft took crap for making their games on pc too. People said it wasn’t a true exclusive. So Sony is doing the same. So they will be losing exclusive games too. How will this be spun now?

gold_drake364d ago (Edited 364d ago )

true

but its .. not quite the same imo

sony is expending out
ms already has their windows userbase.

but yeh. im not a pc player so it doesnt rly matter to me all too much. i just hope they get their pc games in order. ridiculous how broken some of their pc ports have been ha

Shadowsteal364d ago (Edited 364d ago )

You really need it spelled out for you? Microsoft drops exclusives on Xbox and PC day and date. Meaning there's no reason for a gamer to purchase an Xbox if they already own a capable PC, especially when you have a game like Starfield which will thrive off modding which only PC's can truly provide.

Sony are dropping exclusives on PC fairly strategically. Such as Horizon, God of War, and even Spider-Man prior to the release of their respective sequels. Sony isn't hoping to convert PC gamers to Playstation, but rather just purchase a PS5 to play the sequels.

Now to get back to your point, even if you consider Sony "losing" exclusives, the exclusives are dropped on PC when the games are not as relevant and the sequels are already out or about to release exclusively on PS5. So does it really change the narrative that when PC gamers get access to Horizon: Forbidden West, Spider-Man2, and God of War: Ragnarok, PS5 owners will be gearing up to play Horizon 3, Spider-Man 3, and the next God of War?

No spins here, just facts.

anast364d ago

Thank you for fighting the good fight.

ModsDoBetter364d ago

“You really need it spelled out for you? Microsoft drops exclusives on Xbox and PC day and date. Meaning there's no reason for a gamer to purchase an Xbox if they already own a capable PC, especially when you have a game like Starfield which will thrive off modding which only PC's can truly provide.”

Aside from the unnecessary opening remark, I agree with this sentiment. Never looked at it from this angle before.

One example with my mates who are primarily PC gamers over last night for a games night and we played Ragnarok which prompted the discussion around the PC release schedule and how the wait is excruciating.

Philaroni363d ago (Edited 363d ago )

"Sony are dropping exclusives on PC fairly strategically. Such as Horizon, God of War, and even Spider-Man prior to the release of their respective sequels. Sony isn't hoping to convert PC gamers to Playstation, but rather just purchase a PS5 to play the sequels."

Not sure if you saw my other comment, but its both that and the fact the pipelines are very different. You are right they are being smart about it but also I feel they have given quality when they do, and remember this is like the first time we ever seen them do this in mass, and they won't be stopping. I know for a fact we are getting Ghost's here this year or early Feb, from the former collages I have in the industry the main issue is finding teams to do the ports and work for it, thus why Bluepoint and such where a big deal to get, the main teams want to work on the 'next' game and as they should, we all know Sony gives a big damn about quality, that takes time and the masses will get things on Playstation first anyway, I'm in a minority that some times get it on PC as well (Well if I get free codes XD) since I like playing on my ultra wide more then 4k, but I'm a very nich example. I'd like to see there turn around time be faster, and its going to be in the years to come. They are investing in to it.

Edit. What its kind of like when you go to see a movie on the big screen and have to wait a long time for it to come out to DVD or BluRay. I feel like that is kind of the method they are going for but not because they can't just release it, more so that with games its alot more involved. I don't know I feel like that is kind of a good analogy. I was just thinking how Baulders Gate 3... a PC game for sure for me, is coming to PS5 but will come to Xbox once they got issues figured out. It its all more complex then people give it credit for."

ModsDoBetter364d ago

I agree with this.

There’s a double standard when it comes to Sony vs Microsoft rollout to a wider market with PC releases.

The critics trash Microsoft for doing so and sarcastically jab that they have no exclusives as a result, yet move the goalposts when Sony does the same.

Shadowsteal364d ago

Microsoft releases on PC because they NEED to. Historically their first party output has been paltry and left a lot to be desired. Microsoft has been focusing on gamepass and PC to appeal to shareholders and convince them that the Xbox brand is still profitable and otherwise.

Sony has been releasing on PC for completely different reasons. The first thing to realize is Sony could have not bothered releasing anything on PC and they would've still been fine, however they're pretty ambitious and have lofty plans to expand. The releases on PC lets them access an untapped playerbase for them and advertises Playstation and the revenue is used to fund the continued development of 1st party Playstation titles.

The only goalposts being moved here is Microsoft. They're the ones that decided the number of consoles sold is no longer relevant because it's convenient for them. They're 100% committed to gamepass subscribers, however they haven't been reporting the number of gamepass subscribers either, so who knows wtf is going on there, but from the context clues, it can't be good.

Crows90364d ago

Except no goal post has been moved. A double standard assumes the exact same situation. The situations are not the exact same.

ModsDoBetter364d ago

@Shadow
@Crows

I replied to @Shadow’s other comment when I read further down and stated that I now understand the perspective and general reason behind the attitude towards Microsoft Vs Sony in this regard.

Posted this comment before scrolling a wee bit further.

Cheers!

IamTylerDurden1364d ago (Edited 364d ago )

No.

Sony has been roasted for years over PC ports. XB fans have yelled "day n date coming soon" for years. Both were criticized and tbf Sony's output is not the same. They aren't day n date, every game, etc. The situations aren't even the same and IF every game is day n date in the future they will get heavy criticism. Furthermore, MS created a precedent early last gen. Ppl are used to PC ports now. Like when Sony raised game prices they took the brunt of criticism. MS followed but weren't as heavily attacked. That's life. No Sony protection, just differing circumstances.

darkrider363d ago

It's not the same. It's incredible how Microsoft gamers still don't understand. Day one and two year later or before the sequel is launched isn't the same.

That why Sony exclusives sell millions day one and Microsoft exclusive games don't reach any charts.

Thats becaude even launch games still pop up on charts. Because they aren't on pc

Microsoft tottaly cannabalise sales because of the amazing combo GP and pc day one. What an amazing move to be dead last and losing marketshare while the competition is breaking records.

Philaroni363d ago

I agree, and its dumb an unfair to everyone. First off MS was making PC games long before they made the Xbox. Where in reverse Sony only really ever did Playstation games and now are opened up to PC. A HELL of alot of that is the fact both are now using not some weird chips but all x86 and this gen the two systems are closer to a PC then anything, for a long time Sony had this thing with custom chips (still do kind of for some things) but nothing like it use to be. (coughs Cell) MS has been doing what they always have been, Sony is doing it now because well they finally can it makes sense. I don't see who loses here. Its a win win triple double for me at least, and many.

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Furesis364d ago

Believe it or not but most people don't care about petty console fanboy wars.

JackBNimble364d ago

Except here at n4g most people are ragging fanboys

Crows90364d ago

Not the same but similar and still makes them not exclusives. Nobody is spinning. MS fans are the only spinners.

JackBNimble364d ago

Says the die hard sonyfanboy

Crows90364d ago

@jack
Name-calling ...very mature of you.
Nimble maybe but not very bright.

franwex364d ago

It’s a pro Sony site bro. There’s going to be a double standard, but there’s a bit of a difference.

Sony will release on the PlayStation before porting to PC-as that’s a mostly Microsoft platform.

Microsoft will release on PC and Xbox at the same time as it’s their own platforms.

If Sony made PCs with their own operating system (or just an operating system that is widely used) they too would do a simultaneous release.

So to answer the question, why get an Xbox or PlayStation if everything will be available on PC eventually anyway? Because you prefer console gaming and in Sony’s case-because you’re going to play it now instead of later.

IamTylerDurden1364d ago

It's not the same though. Day n date everything for MS is not the same as some games 1-3 yrs after launch on PS. It's not. Just like Stellar Blade is not the same as Bethesda. Third party and or/timed single games vs IP banishment. Stop saying it's the same. It isn't.

JackBNimble364d ago

How will it be spun?
The sonyboys simply tell you pc guys that you got to wait 2 or 3 years before you're going to get a Sony game .

So that makes everything ok right?
Lol

IamFrasierCrane364d ago

How is that spin? That is exactly how it works. The games come to PC years later and then the games are no longer exclusive to their respective console.

On Xbox the games release simultaneously with PC and do not have an exclusive time period. Xbox fanboys like you started calling them “MS exclusives” or “console exclusives” which is fine. (even through it goes against the very definition of the word exclusive)

Yes, everything is OK.

JackBNimble364d ago

Well it used to be the sonyboys bragging rights that Sony games were not on pc , hence they were "true exclusives ".

Then that all changed and you move the goal post big time.

Now you all claim it ain't the same as xbox games because there's a 2 or 3 year wait ... which is bullshit anyways.

I can't wait to hear what you all say when Sony starts releasing day one on pc . Jim Ryan doesn't care what you fanboys think, it's all about revenue, and sooner or later Sony games will be day one.

CBaoth364d ago

um yeah once Sony releases day and date on PC THEN IT WILL BE THE SAME.
Until then IT'S NOT. There's no extra layer to decipher here, how many copies did GOWR on PC sell?

Why do xbox fans always argue apples to oranges comparisons? The other day some Xbox guy tried to equate the No Man Sky launch failure to the Redfall controversy. One's 1st party w/ a year delay and the other was an indie dev who suffered through a flood and had to have computers donated to them. Go figure

Philaroni363d ago

I don't think MS should have got crap for that, the main thing is Xbox runs a version of Windows as its OS and what do most people on PC play on, Windows. If I remember right Sony uses a type of Linux custom OS that is made to interface with there studios game engines. Consider the fact this is the first time, ever we seen any Sony games on PC, something no one thought that would happen is a good thing? MS has had Halo on PC for years, Gearbox did the old 1 and 2 ports of it back in the day. Even had some more maps and such then the Xbox version. MS back in the day use to be kind of PC gods with games, really miss those days but that was long before the Xbox.

Even today MS has tools that helps to kind of 'auto' port to some extent the XBSX to the S to an extent to help devs save time, they do have good tools for that and since its all Windows/Dos based they are in a much more controlled environment. Few seem to know this but MS helps alot of devs when it comes to compatibility and such between versions of windows and getting games to work on there OS. They have always been rather great at that. Anyone saying its not a 'true exclusive' is just fan boy talk, hell maybe way back in the day that made some sense? But now days? The lines are getting more and more blurry with each gen.

Also to your point more direct GamerDude82, All games are made on PC's then compiled to run on the dev kits and so on. I'd not worry too much about what people say in that regards, maybe I'm just old now days and seen things from the start, and how they have evolved.

darkrider363d ago

Can you play day one any Sony exclusive?

You can play all Microsoft day one.

When it's on more then one platform it's not exclusive. Until it is, it's exclusive. Not that hard to understand

franwex363d ago

But it’s still a Microsoft platform. So it makes sense why Microsoft would also release their games on windows along with Xbox.

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XiNatsuDragnel364d ago

I hope it's 2-3 years later than day 1 because I think Sony seen how Microsoft sales are like imo

RedDevils364d ago

Day 1 would kill their sale. Earliest should be 6 months if not, a year from release is the best profitable time for them.

Red364d ago

Not being funny at all, but I legitimately wanna know how releasing day 1 on PC would "kill" sales.

darkrider363d ago

Exactly. That model is just a gigantic flop. Seven year and they still don't understand.

PrinceOfAnger364d ago

3 or 6 month exclusive is fine, then release on pc.

Shane Kim364d ago

About one year I would say. But at the end of day who cares.

Eonjay364d ago

I would definitely say a year. After seeing how soon TLoU on PC launched after PS5, I think they messed up by trying to get a quick turnaround to coincide with the TV show.

Games are getting ever more complex and when you combine that with the PC landscape, appropriate time must be given. Focus on getting the console version out then have your best porting teams prep for a PC release.

FinalFantasyFanatic364d ago

I think if they did it 3 or 6 months, most people wouldn't even buy the PS version, they'd just wait for the PC version, a longer wait time is probably better for Sony.

Philaroni363d ago

For single player games I would agree. The one thing now we know with the industry is when it comes to MP games you need lots of people fast, and got to keep them engaged. I can't say for sure since my buddy won't tell me but I have a feeling Last of Us Factions might come to PS and PC at the same date. That would make alot of sense to me. Staggering a Multi Player online game just does not seem smart to me. I don't bitch too much but I got really pissed when Street Fighter was a Sony Exclusive... Fighting games above all need players... sure it was a good flex for Sony but more people in games like that which already have a low player base compared to other types of games need a community right away and together.

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