2016 machines go head to head.
Sony announced their new model of the PS4 today, the PS4 Pro. However, the added power and capabilities of the new system may not be accessible to everyone.
Or how about all these 4k games are just upscaled and not natively running on it lol? That's a big one to me
Did gamers really think it would run native 4K 60fps like a GTX 1080 one of the most powerful gpu in the market 🤔 and I'm still having problems running a few games in that resolution. Deus Ex and Hitman says hi . I'll also put Quantum Break on the list poorly optimize
Preordered mine already when it came avalible.
The fact that you expected it to be true 4K confirms how some hardcore gamers are actually casual.
My 980ti which is $600 can barely play 4K at decent settings. And I can tell you that Scorpio will barely be able to handle 4K native either.
And I hope you adjusted your eyes for the Sony exclusives that will run 900p and 25 frames on your vanilla ps4. While I will actually play Sony exclusives on decent settings on my PRO.
Some games like The Last of Us Remastered and The Elder Scrolls Online will run at a native 4K resolution.
By the way, how do you tolerate your Xbox One with the sub native 720p-900p resolution in a lot of good games?
Shame indeed they are upscaled on the Scorpio and the Pro indeed, native 4k would have been much better, but let's face it, those specs aren't going to cut it, heck even PCs can't do 4k@60fps at the moment, especially not at console prices...
Never expected it to be 4k man lol....... I'm just saying they are saying "4k gaming" and throwing that around when you are seeing games when its just upscaled LOLOLOL
MS is throwing around 4K gaming as well with the X1S, with the asterix afterwards to say that it's not native, and likely will do the same with the Scorpio....so....um.....lol?
Why even mention it? Resolution and HDR aren't intrinsically connected.
@Fries
All your games have been upscaled on your XboxOne but that never bothered you huh? Now you're in here getting cocky when you don't even know anything about the Scorpio yet. You think it's gonna be affordable? They're trying to switch you to PC and you don't even see it yet...
Kind of inportant to keep in mind I suppose, but doesn't the xbox one S already have that ability PLUS 4k bluray and streaming? Seems almost like this is simlar to it more than acorpio in terms of features.
Obviously the pro has more power, so we should get some better looking textures, draw distances, etc. But with no 4k bluray support and so far only upscaled 4k, just seems like a strange move.
Seems to me (and probably rightly so) Sony wanted to ensure they have a high end VR system in place in addition to their standard console. Which is a very smart idea, but if you are not interested in their VR solution, I feel like the PS4 pro might be a bit underwhelming.
Maybe I am just being crass though.
Well that's wrong because no 1080p HDTV supports HDR. I'm not sure how Sony got away with lying about HDR on the PS4.
@mariojp87
Hell, not even all 4k tvs have HDR support. I went with a budget 4k tv back in November because my 32 inch finally died, and then I start hearing about all this hdr stuff and check to find out if mine has it and it doesn't. It's not even a feature that comes with 4k natively. Needless to say, I'm pondering whether I should get a ps4 pro at all.
I dont think he said any where in the meeting that 1080p tvs would do hdr. He said hdr would be supported on all ps4 even those that only support 1080p at no time did he say yoy didnt need a 4k tv. More lies from 343 even
Lp
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If you have a 1080p tv with HDR, no 4k is required to benefit...
Just because there isn't a manufacturer currently making a 1080p model doesn't mean that it is not possible, it is simply that almost every TV manufacturer is moving exclusively to 4k, such as samsung, sony and vizio...
Well you're also in luck, PS4 Pro will render every game at 1080p with enhanced visuals on a FHD display.
That's true for any other HDR capable device. If your TV doesn't support you can't use it.
However all 1080P TV owners can benefit from upgrading to the PS4 Pro. Better visuals and framerate will be available on Sonys new console.
"However all 1080P TV owners can benefit from upgrading to the PS4 Pro. Better visuals and framerate will be available on Sonys new console."
that's all i was looking for, really, which is why I've pre-ordered the console. when I can afford a 4K HDR-ready TV, I'll buy one, but for now I'm happy with the added benefits to the current games on my regular 1080p TV.
@343
Wow, it's not real HDR people! Beware! It's fake HDR!
LOL, what is 'not real HDR'? and what is 'real HDR'?
Really hate all these fake HDR standards. Don't know what they are, but damn it....I hate them.
Not sure what differentiates a coded bit stream for pixel processing between real and fake HDR. It's all a set standard of HDR10(for consoles) or Dolby Vision in some other places.
What exactly does the X1S or I guess the Scorpio do differently that makes it "real" HDR? Is it a hardware thing? Can't imagine how since all pixel processing is in hardware and is part of the rendering process...so what's the difference?
Afraid 343 you may have to explain yourself on this one....even though you never respond to clarify any of your drivel despite you probably being ready to say this same thing for your next 1000 comments.
I just don't think the slightly better visuals and framerate, depending on the developer, is even worth it.
more money, time, and setup, just to see a slight bump at the developers discretion is pointless to me. Just gonna wait for PS5.
[more money, time, and setup, just to see a slight bump at the developers discretion is pointless to me. Just gonna wait for PS5.]
Which is exactly why Sony is doing what they did, the current PS4 , along with the PS4 Slim get HDR, games made and released on Blu-ray discs along with its optical speed drive will still use Single side single layer or dual layer Blu-Ray Disc's..
Blu-Ray UHD is strictly for movie playback..that costs larger licence fees and most of the UHD discs offer the standard Blu-Ray playback option for older players anyway.
Untra Disc Blu-Ray really has no benefit for games market other than movie playback , while HDR does , and those with a current PS4 or those looking to buy can get any PS4 and all of them are now HDR compliant when the firmware update rolls out.
All PS4's can use PSVR as well as all PS4 games will work on all PS4's no exclusives separating the models not with VR and not with 3rd party developers and publishers getting to choose to make console only exclusives that only work on the PS4Pro while leaving the current PS4 users out.
After last night's conference, I finally bit the bullet and bought a 4K HDR TV. I've got a gaming PC as well, so I can finally try out all those PC games in 4K (if it runs well on my 980).
I'll be picking up the Pro probably around xmas time, so I'll at least get to try out the HDR games on the og PS4 (if any release by then, that is). It's gonna be an expensive autumn...
I do own a 4k tv but seeing as the PRO isnt actually a 4k console i just dont see the point. I would be willing to fork out the extra cash for actual 4k, upscaled though is utterly pointless imo.
So i guess you wont be getting the one s or the scorpio. Scorpio mayhave 4k games. But only a select few will actually benefit from the pushfor resolution over more important things like frame rate
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Man Spiderman looks incredible on PS4 Pro. Im all in Sony, Thank You! Days Gone...
Wow Horizon looks beautiful on the Pro...you can see the waterfall flowing all the way across the vista..thats crazy. Great detail....Im glad that I dont have to wait for a 4k display as it will also show great enhancements on my 1080p display! What was that FPS VRgame? I couldn't rewind it because it was Live. That looks awesome as well for PSvR. Just wow right!
Stratification as in having a number of PS4 and Xbox One models to choose from. $199 bottom of the line consoles, all the way to $599 top of the line consoles.
Oooo... Big words! :D
Stratification. Erm... *looks up dictionary*
Ah yes, I do concur my good fellow.
Stratification indeed!
It' kind of funny too, that the author doesn't want to say for sure that "stratification" is beginning with Neo and Scorpio. But it is, in fact, beginning because each manufacturer will have TWO choices on the market that play the same games.
Im loving the vision of Sony right now. This conference is already good but let me get back to it. My boy Cerny is talking.....
Goodbye gaming :( they want to make us buy a new console every other 2 years. I'm sure M$ is pushing for this as Sony wanted the ps3 to be 10 years now not so much. Damn you M$! And now $ony
Not a big deal, we will just move back to PC gaming where it all began and instead of buying a new console every 2 years, just upgrade the rig.
Instead of buying a new console every two years just upgrade your PC every two years....
Lol
You guys just don't get it.
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Why goodbye gaming ? it's not really changing all that much. You're not being forced to buy these upgraded consoles, you will still be able to play every PS4 / Xbox One game on their current models. If anything this is a step forward. No longer will we need to worry about the future of our digital content, every game we buy will be compatible with the new model, that is a great thing. It's something that has worried me for many years. As it stands, the PS3 digital content is very vulnerable. If the PS3 servers shut down, all of that money people paid out for digital content will be wasted. With the PS4, there is some future proofing going on, you can now carry your content over to the new model. This is how it should be and i hope it continues from now on.
A lot of gamer's are so melodramatic, so many treat anything new like the worst possible thing that can happen.
RIP consoles. They are branded low speed gaming PCs now. There is a bright side to this though...gaming will once again be PC based again and we will actually get games that pushes hardware for years after release ala Crysis 2007.
RIP gaming maybe? I and im sure a lot of us cheap (smart imo, you have to be smart with money) console gamers don't play PC because we don't want to spend the money to upgrade every 2 years. Now this will be the same. Ps4 will be my last consoles for sure. I love gaming but it's not that high of a priority.
if you want games on the highest quality PS4Pro obviously
if you want a cheap UHD BR player the XBone1S
PS4 Slim deserves some love
Pro all the way, Xbone s will have all its games on PC + its weak.
I'm not going to even dare enter into a squabble about Ps4 Pro v Xbox s/Scorpio as i will inevitably buy all of them to sate my gaming appetite, but that doesn't leave me any less furious at the pipsqueak who decided not to add a uhd blu ray to the Pro. I have shelled out a small kings ransom on my 4k tv's and was pinning my hopes on a Ps4 uhd blu ray player, in the end because of Sony's inane decision i bought an xbox slim solely for this purpose.