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Understanding Sony's Issue with Delays

With delays becoming so common on Sony's console, the question needs to be asked: why do Sony’s games (as great as they may be) keep getting delayed?

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RyanMc20162833d ago

I rarely feel upset when I see a delay because I assume it will be a better experience in the end. But I do get more hyped when the "Bethesda tactic" is being used...makes me feel like a kid on Christmas morning when I know it's just around the corner.

Player3Podcast2833d ago

Yeah. I tend to try to just tune out coverage when it is too far out from release. I have the tendency to get exhausted with demo after demo after trailer after trailer.

freshslicepizza2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

i wish more studios would take the bethesda approach and announcing games the same year they are coming out. problem is not so many studios are fortunate enough to have a namebrand like fallout that will sell regardless of hyping them for years.

as for sony i feel some of those games are purposely delayed because at the end of the day what difference does it make? they are the leader this generation in sales and can also use third party games to carry them through unlike nintendo who relies solely on their own games otherwise they won't sell systems. which mneans there is not that much pressure for sony to place games around slower release schedules.

this problem is also not just restricted to sony even though sony seems to take the lead on delays. games cost so much that they think they need to show them way too early.

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Trez12342833d ago

Donthate @ you can call playstation all you want but it has more games both AAA and indies. Quality is subjective but since you guys are more bothered about meta scores, playstation still wins there too. Better multiplats too and those things aren't just some crazy dreams but hard facts.

Maybe they delay more because they have more games?

_-EDMIX-_2833d ago

"as for sony i feel some of those games are purposely delayed" LMFAO!

As suppose to on accident or?

" they are the leader this generation in sales "

They have a reputation to uphold. GT5, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Killzone 2,

" through unlike nintendo who relies solely on their own" .....they have delayed many, many games though, I mean...Nintendo is literally known for delaying games to perfect them bud. Sorry but I don't really think you know what your talking about (like always) and your ignoring that when PS3 WASN'T market leader, it delayed many games. So why did they delay games last gen?

MS delayed Gears 2 and Gears 3, Too Human some Forza games, Crackdown 3, Scalebound, delayed ReCore.. are they market leader right now? orrrrr is there another reason their games are delayed?

"which mneans there is not that much pressure for sony to place games around slower release schedules."

Soooo lets replace "Sony" with Nintendo or MS and see if this makes any damn sense.

No pressure to release Zelda U huh? lol

No pressure to release Crackdown 3 huh? even with 20 plus million behind PS4? Maybe, JUST maybe, they are delaying games to FIX THEM. Has nothing to do with um "no pressure" as that would mean Nintendo and MS would NOT be delaying games, but shotgunning them out regardless of quality.

You do not see Nintendo or MS doing that or really many publishers theses days, so not sure why you assumed Sony was doing this merely based on being market leader.

Why did EA delay BF Hardlines, Mirror's Edge 2, Mass Effect 4 etc? I mean...buddy, that excuse sorta doesn't make sense.

So did you forget MS is losing by millions of units world wide, yet Scalebound was revealed in 2014, yet is coming out in 2017? lol

freshslicepizza2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

@_-EDMIX-_

year after year sony decides to delay key games during the busy holiday season, that is not by coincidence. they do it because they are the lead platform which will take the bulk of software sales. this allows them more flexibility to have their own games come out at slower times. the ps3 got a pass since it was much more difficult to work on.

here, i will leave you with this as i find it rather amusing now,

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

"We don't want to take too long on Gran Turismo 7," Kazunori told Top Gear. "Best-case scenario? Next year. In GT6 we really had to tune the software 100 percent to maximize the PS3's architecture, but of course the PS4's hardware is much better, so I think the overall quality of the game across the board will be boosted when you come to play it."

that was from 2013!

so let's wait and see if horizon gets delayed again or not. i already predicted last year it would not come out this year, go and search my past comments. this is a pattern by sony.

_-EDMIX-_2833d ago

@mold- thats nice....QB, Scalebound, ReCore, Crackdown 3 delayed....

Kryptix2832d ago (Edited 2832d ago )

@_-EDMIX-_

It's not just a delay in games. There's also a delay in controller input, too.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

lol No, all jokes aside. Below also got delayed. And Phantom Dust. (it got revived for 2017, announced in 2014)

So about delays? I don't mind them as long as there's games to play in between. I rather have a game that's not broken at launch, messy, all sorts of server issues, incomplete side stuff, etc compared to something that has all that. Plus, having to patch the game over time with gigs of data for not just that, but obvious balancing issues isn't my cup of tea. Like you took your time to beast with a gun or character and it turned out that it had bugs attached to it or they didn't test that right so they nerf it into oblivion, wasting my time mastering it and getting used to the weaknesses. You get me.

And wouldn't a delayed game also provide a little bit more content and not just fine tuning? That's if, there was no development hell associated to the delay, of course.

Skillz12152832d ago (Edited 2832d ago )

@moldy I do not even bother reading your comments anymore because you are the most biased person on N4G I disagree the second I see your name

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ninjazfistz2833d ago

Agree. Frustration usually mounts after several years or even a year of delays.

Shubhendu_Singh2833d ago

TLG is such an embarrassing case.

well, IF the delay was tactical to avoid larger games then maybe it is ok.

But IF the delay was to iron out bugs and stuff, (it's a great gesture ultimately) but seriously how much freakin time do you need for TLG? Wasn't 7 YEARS enough ?

I know delay game is always good than a non-delayed game, obviously. But you can't help but think something is really wrong with Sony when every game keeps getting delayed and delayed. Either stop announcing the release date, that could be a solution until it is 2-3 months away.

jb2272833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

"But you can't help but think something is really wrong with Sony when every game keeps getting delayed and delayed. Either stop announcing the release date, that could be a solution until it is 2-3 months away."

And therein lies the rub. The gaming community gets upset over delays, so when Sony tries to fix that by not putting solid release dates on games revealed at E3 this year, the gaming community gets worked up about these games being "so far out they don't even have a release date".

Seems to me like Sony has already worked towards fixing this, but a vocal minority has chosen to criticize them for it instead of seeing the simple logic in it. Most people think the new announcements for games like Spider-Man, GoW & Days Gone puts them in the 2018 & Beyond window, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sony puts some firm Holiday dates on these games come E3 2017.

As for TLG this one is a bit of a special case. This game has seen 10 years of development over two console generations, following on as a spiritual successor from huge critical successes from the PS2 era whose sentiments have only gained more favor...to botch a launch like this solely to be a slave to a date now would just be insanity. TLG needs to run as smooth as silk come launch, otherwise we will see what we're seeing w/ Recore today, a game that seems like great fun is instead the poster boy for how to not make a first impression. In this day & age you absolutely have to nail the landing straight out of the gate or your game that you've put years of man hours & so many resources into will be forgotten in a week's time.

_-EDMIX-_2833d ago

So it would have been better to just can the game? You know what happens when game go in to development this long? They don't come out bud....

Yet your a crying that they are doing you this solid and releasing what they promised?

Where is that Halo MMO? Buddy, it didn't even last HALF the time in development as this game and was canned, yet your crying over how long its taking? Be happy that its ANYTHING at this point, they NEVER needed to stick with this game bud, they very well could have canned it and I wouldn't have even blamed them if they did, but to cry over how long its taking is just immature and childish.

Sorry but if this was any other publisher, it legit may not even be coming out at all.

Sony has canned lots of games too, to stick with this game is a very respectable gesture.

"can't help but think something is really wrong with Sony when every game keeps getting delayed and delayed"

Buddy, I can't help but to think something is wrong with publishers that keep rushing out broken games, yet your crying over a company ensuring quality at launch?

Sparta072833d ago

What about Microsoft?
Wasn't QB, scalebound, and recore delayed just to name a few. It happens and sometimes is a good thing.

Ethereal2833d ago

Exactly. Announce when you know you can meet the ship date no more than 6 months in advance. I get that you want people to know what is coming but these early announcements just end up hurting the game more in the long run.

jznrpg2833d ago

You can not anticipate all problems with development, we do not live in a perfect world with perfect humans, mistakes and issues will happen. As long as the game is good when it is released is all I care about. I always have games on PlayStation to play, always have a backlog , so delays really don't matter to me.I still have a backlog on PS3, though I am happy to say it is getting small.

jznrpg2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

I like it as well, but Bethesda games have a lot of bugs when they come out. Morrowind is one of my favorite games of all time, but Bethesda could or maybe should delay there games a little to fix the bucket of bugs you always get.

Dabigsiebowski2833d ago

Well Rockstar Games are the ones who started "that" tactic. Bethesda makes over rated games anyways that are super buggy from the get go.

You do know Bethesda is just as bad as scum as the EA, Ubi, or Acti. They tried to hold payments on the original devs of Prey 2 so they can lower the value of the company as a whole and buy them out at a cheap price. The completely screwed over playstation users on skyrim. The whole mod debacle is truly them being stubborn about wanting control over platforms for user created content. People would think to point the finger at Sony but can you really blame them? Fallout 4 was truly mediocre despite fanboys not accepting this.

They bought of id software and pretty much forced Carmack out because he didn't want to play ball with a publisher he had no choice over since they were the ones paying for the lights now. DOOM was no where near the quality I expected for the franchise let alone it being a reboot. They took it in a direction that was just mindless instead of trying to push the genre forward as the other ones did. doesn't surprise me to see it as cheap as it is now.

And here we have Skyrim.... the most overrated game in recent history. IT IS NOT A BAD GAME AT ALL, just severely overrated and frankly the Witcher series have proved that. The game was pretty buggy and really lacked the kinda balance you would expect from a game after 40 hours. Good game but really is over rated to a degree.

_-EDMIX-_2833d ago

lol! Me too, but not every title can get such a treatment. All games are developed differently and many companies market differently. This is a huge IP for Sony and clearly they are likely not going to move something like 12 million units in a week or anything. With a new IP, they need more time to market and develop. This game is way, way past being released shortly after reveal. They should take their time. Can't undo what has been done so...

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UCForce2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

Well, one thing I learned that Sony need to be more precise with release date. Also, TLG delay is smart move for Sony. Because October has two major titles, TLG won't stand a chance against those two. The game is coming in December, not November.

Player3Podcast2833d ago

They also need to play their reveals a little closer to the chest. Lower that gestation period from reveal to release.

donthate2833d ago

Except in December all the gifts and games have been bought. No more money. There is a reason why everyone tries to get in October.

Sparta072833d ago

@ don, Right cause nobody shops in the month of December. Lol that's one of the busiest time of the year for shoppers. People usually start there shopping on black Friday ( end of Nov )
And continues to Dec.

Gamist2dot02833d ago

Maybe in the old days when games take shorter amount of time to make with minimum budget, but today's games are way more sophisticated and require bigger budget so it's not easy when everything seems to fall into place for the target date when suddenly a serious bug or budget issue gets in the way come close to launch date.

I, too, don't like delays, but when it happens, i support every developer that does it because it's usually worth it.

2pacalypsenow2833d ago

Because they try to get as many bugs fixed before release, unlike other companies that release them first and fix them later.

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akurtz2833d ago

it hasnt been in active development for 10 years, it was announced 10 years ago.

Jared8Randall2833d ago

Sony's delays is a professional dichotomy. One the one hand, they want they're games to be good the first time (pro). On the other hand, they just can't get their estimates right on when it will be top notch (not as pro). I think it evens out in Sony's favor though, because we stop caring about the release date when we're finally playing the game and it rocks.