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Can you build a PC to match the new PS4 Pro's price and performance?

PCGamesN writes: Sony have officially struck a precedent making the PlayStation 4 even more of a PC than it originally was - incremental, mutually-compatible hardware updates. With the new PS4 Pro they're providing a fractured ecosystem which requires developers to think a lot harder about the hardware they’re creating games for. Hands off, Sony. That’s our department...

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xXx19903204d ago

My PC Outperforms it spec for spec but wasn't $400 lol

mikeslemonade3204d ago

Nope you can't assuming the GPU is like a gtx 970. Then you need all the other stuff. Console don't need as much power for the same perfermande due to optimization.

But you need both a PC and PS4 Pro for Sony Exclusives, console exclusives, PC exclusives, and Windows exclusives.

fr0sty3204d ago

Gotta love how Dasteru leaves out the free games you get for being a member of PS+/XBL among all those bogus numbers.

Angels37853204d ago

Why do these things always neglect the OS...adds to the price

Dasteru3204d ago (Edited 3203d ago )

Because SteamOS is free.

I just built an 8GB RX 470 (4.9TF) / FX-4300 system on Newegg for $525 after instant rebates. You can easily make up the cost difference in the first year with GMG/Steam/HB sales and lack of online fees. If you already have a PC, it can be built for $475 by swapping out the old HDD, and you then get Windows for free also (If running Windows 10).

Consoles:
$400 initial investment
$350 for 7 years of PSN/XBL (average console life span)
$3300 @ $60 per game x 55 games (statistical average number of games owned by most console gamers by the end of a gen)
$400 upgrade cost every 7 years (every ~3 years if new console cycle trend becomes permanent)

Total cost = $6192-6952 every 10 years.

PC:
~$525 initial investment
$2475-2750 @ ~$45-50 per game x 55 games (typcial discounts on Green Man Gaming at launch) The Witcher 3 for example has been $42.99 since day one. Battlefield 1 is currently $52.99 on pre-order & Deus Ex: Mankind Divided is $44.99. Even more can be saved by taking advantage of Steams weekend sales and Humble Bundles.
$250 upgrade cost every 5 years for a new GPU
$165 every 10 years for new Mobo, CPU & Ram

Total cost = $4729-5123 every 10 years.

Edit: Corrected some numbers. Forgot to increase some prices from a 7 year console cycle to the 10 year example.

@sully:

Then you are not buying that many games. It is a general comparison based on statistics. Regardless though, you still pay more for consoles in the long term.

@remix:

As already stated, it is statistics. Not my numbers. Just because you do not want to hear the reality of it, does not make it untrue.

@kneon:

Never said they did. This was just a like for like comparison, so the PC only has to remain atleast equal to the consoles. Buying a 4.9TF GPU now, will still be 4.9TF 5 years from now, while the PS4 Pro will still be 4.2TF. If all someone wants is a system that will keep up with current consoles, this is what it would cost. Obviously most people will want to upgrade more often but that is not the point.

sullynathan3204d ago

@Dasteru that is such a shit paragraph you typed, I nor anyone I know is spending that much on consoles or PC.

remixx1163204d ago

@das dude that was a whole lot of hot ass you just spewed. Who even pulls numbers like that??

SonyWarrior3204d ago

i think its because only idiots buy an OS....

Princess_Pilfer3204d ago

Because there are like 9 different free and quite good versions of linux.

Why do these things always neglect the cost of PS+?

TheOptimist3204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

@sullynathan, remixxxxx, SonyWarrior

Meh.... Now someone pulls straight facts and then you guys don't even justify why you are so negative. So you rather not comment on such facts, because your bias goggles have the power that'll make an almost blind person see again

kneon3204d ago

@Dasteru

I don't know any PC gamers that wait 5 years to upgrade their GPU, certainly not when they are starting with a mid range card in a cheap build.

I typically build a new one every 2-3 years, sometimes less. But I don't use them for gaming.

GamingIVfun3204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

@Dasteru

Your full of been's on most of what you say.

Even if the average console user buys an average of 55 games they most likely will not be paying full price for all of them because console games get discounted just as fast as PC games these days.

PC gamers constantly up grade their PC's, no PC gamer keeps the same parts in their PC for 10 years. A graphics card, even a mid range graphics card is at least $300.00. A PC can't play Modern AAA games well on just 8 gigs of ram, at minimum with gpu and system ram a PC needs at least 10 gigs total to play modern games at Medium to high settings, most minimum PC's have 8 gig system and 4Gig GPU that's 12 total. I have a high end PC with 32 gig system ram and 8 gig GPU ram (GTX 1080) still struggles doing 4k without Micro stuttering and that's with the few games that will even run and be playable (I"m talking recent this gen games).

I have very nice PC, been building them for years. I know that consoles can get much more out lower specs than a pc can get with the same specs, lot less overhead on a console. you can squeeze more juice out of a fixed system. A console is much easier to use Than a PC.

I love my PC and PC gaming, but I honestly don't think that pc or console gaming are better than the other, for various reasons.

Like I said console games are discounted just as fast as PC games these day's at least at retail, hell even PSN and Xbox LIve have sales on games all the time. You can hardly find retail PC games anymore with many not even having a retail version. New PC games aren't cheaper anymore on steam or anywhere, and still take a while before they are reduced in price.

Your PC numbers are very slanted.

Princess_Pilfer3204d ago

@GamingIVfun

That's funny, because a mid range RX 480 is 200-240 dollars.

Also:
20 dollar I5 2500k (overclock it to like 4.5 ghz)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Int...
40 dollar mobo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM...
10 dollar CPU fan
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zal...
Rest of your system for $378
http://pcpartpicker.com/lis...

Total of
$448.

PS4 pro? 400. 3 years of PS+ (ie just up to date, not counting the 3-5 years left in the console life time?) 150. Total?
$550.
More realistic total that includes online play for the full 6-8 years of the consoles life?
$700

sullynathan3204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

@Theoptimist I didn't want to make a large paragraph but I will now.

PS4 & Xbox One starts as low as $299, you can even buy a used one for far cheaper so the starting price is even lower.

For one, Dasteru assumes that someone seriously into pc gaming will spend money on a PC like the one he mentions. The PC he mentions won't even run games like TW3, on high settings well. In the long run, games like Battlefield 1 would be running better with better graphics on consoles than the system he mentioned. Why would you want that? You'll be quickly getting diminishing returns.

Also, again assuming that console gamers only buy games on launch and only buy it for $60 even though you can buy console games at any store, different sites and more for cheaper price. He even mentions other sites you can buy PC games but refuses to do the same for console. Console is still a disc-based market meaning that you are not restricted to one store to buy a game.
For example, Witcher 3 complete edition is right now at $50 on both STEAM, PSN & Xbox Live. While on greenman gaming it is $43, but on Console at ebay you can find it at the same price for $43 too. It is a disingenuous thing that "pc mustard race" fags do. Also ignores the fact that console gamers can actually trade in or sell back their games which is something a lot do. Buy a game for $60, trade it in for $30 - $40 or sell it back for $50.

He ignores the fact that console games are having sales now that matches steam's.

indyman77773203d ago

Not only that but they DIDN'T add in the mother board, the cheapest you can find that will work
with this GPU is $29 (LOWEST end).
To use this GPU you have to have a desktop(this is not a M card). So at least $19 for a junky clearance case!
That 4 core CPU is going to cost you at least $49,
Cheapest heatsink gel/paste/resine/glu/toxic powder $1
At least 4$ for a CHEAP cpu heat sink/fan
lowest price on Rx 480 GPU card is at least 249$
At least $29 for 8GB ddr3 (not kingstone or crucial brand we are talking el cheapo!).
1tb hard drive that will cost you at least 29$
the controller will cost you if you want to have a controller, if NOT then it will cost you at least $19 for a keyboard
At least 4$ for a mouse junky mouse.
At least $19 for power supply
At least 2$ for mother board and case cooling fans.
At least $19 dollars for a blu ray drive of any kind
Labor is free since your doing it.
If you want all your games to be supported by your machine you need WINDOWS the cheapest you can RENT a windows operating system is 99$ per year so even if you want to only have this for a year and rent this is the cheapest total price:

total cost for cheap parts 570

GamingIVfun3203d ago (Edited 3203d ago )

@Forum Pirate

Your grasping too, comparing Ebay purchases. Used CPU, I doubt your going to get a good over clock with that shifty fan. A single RX 480 is midrange if you compare it to GTX 970, it's really an entry level card that's cheap to do cross fire with, I'll still give it to you but a console can do more with that GPU than a PC can because of less overhead and being a fixed platform.

Other things you need for PC, operating system, keyboard, mouse, game controller. you don't have to have PSN or Xbox Live on consoles. theirs many ways you can paint this. They both have their advantage and disadvantages, neither really has anything over the other.

Dasteru3203d ago (Edited 3203d ago )

@GamingIVfun:

"console games get discounted just as fast as PC games these days."

Console games get $17 discounts on pre-order?. Those prices i mentioned for The Witcher 3, Battlefield 1 & Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, are all pre-order and launch day prices. They are also just a few front page examples from GMG. There are far more just like them. These are also not just sales, they are permanent price reductions. The Witcher 3 was $42.99 on pre-order and has remained $42.99 the entire time since.

Here are a few more pre-order prices.

Titanfall 2 - $52.99
CoD: Infinite Warfare - $53.99
Dishonored 2 - $50.99
Watchdogs 2: Gold Edition - $89.99 ($99.99 on consoles)
South Park: The Fractured But Whole Gold Edition - $80.99 ($89.99 on consoles)
For Honor: Gold Edition - $89.99 ($99.99 on consoles)
Ghost Recon: Wild Lands Deluxe Edition - $54.99 ($69.99 on consoles)

Again, all permanent prices. Not just temp discounts.

"PC gamers constantly up grade their PC's, no PC gamer keeps the same parts in their PC for 10 years."

As already stated, not the point. The point of the post was to show the cost to have a PC that competes atleast evenly with the currently existing consoles, for the lifetime of the consoles. The 4.9TF GPU in the $525 build will still be 4.9TF at the end of the PS4 Pros lifecycle & the PS4 Pro will still be 4.2TF. Yes, most people will want to upgrade more but that is not the point. You can upgrade more often and still be cheaper anyway. The cost difference between the 2 examples i provided, average to $1646.

Also did i mention Raptr gives away high end GPUs for credits that you can earn just by playing games? You can permanently keep the system upgraded to high end specs for free if you play games enough. They currently have the R9 270 for 80k credits. Does PSN or XBL offer free consoles just for playing games?

"at minimum with gpu and system ram a PC needs at least 10 gigs total" "most minimum PC's have 8 gig system and 4Gig GPU that's 12 total"

The one i pieced together for $525 on Newegg has 16GB total. 8GB Vram and 8GB system ram.

"I know that consoles can get much more out lower specs than a pc can get with the same specs"

It is not nearly as much as most people think. The average is about 30% difference. Once DX12 and Vulkan start getting fully utilized, that difference will drop substantially. There have actually been side by side tests of this before with PC builds of similar specs and the difference in the same games, at similar settings was minor.

My numbers are pure fact, whether you want to accept them or not.

@sullynathan:

I am not assuming anything. As has been stated several times now, this example is just to compare like for like pc vs console builds. As to the article itself. It is not about what most pc gamers will build. It is about what a pc gamer can build, within the cost limits and performance of the consoles. You seems to enjoy piece mealing my previous statements to suit your own agenda.

@remixx116:

Just because you do not like to hear it, does not make it "hot ass" or untrue. I also did not "pull" anything. It is simple statistics combined with mathematical reality. You are welcome to look around online at product prices yourself, and add them up on a calculator to see exactly where i "pulled" them from.

sullynathan3203d ago

@Dasteru Again, I question where you're pulling these numbers from. Your ass perhaps? Ghost Recon wildlands is currently $60 for pre-order for the standard edition on STEAM & PSN. Again, TW3 did not start at that price on PC at launch, it was $60 at launch, until the GOTY edition released recently.
The rest of the prices you mentioned are fake.

Your initial comment did not mention building a PC to match console standards, which I believe is stupid anyway but that's besides the point, the article did. Even the article wouldn't recommend building such a machine.

BG115793203d ago

On the 55 average games, are the games you get from Xbox gold and PSN included?
It is at least one-two per month. Plus you have to considered the discounts you get on each console (yes bundles and discounts exist on console to)...

TheOptimist3202d ago (Edited 3202d ago )

@Dasteru,
Save your time, as I said they are biased out of pure fanboyism.

@SullyNathan
Yes you can get a PS4 or Xbox for 300$, and you can build a PC of similar specs for 4, but with the PSN included, and the extra cost of games at day 1, it comes down to all the same. Your statement is immediately false when you say that a PC of 400$ can't run games on 1080p high, clearly shows you have never played on a PC. I had a FX 6300 witha GTX 750Ti built more than two years ago and that played witcer 3 last year on everything almost ULTRA w/o hairworks on 35-50 fps.

As for games, you are talking, right now. He is talking Day1 launch, I haven't seen any console game discounted anywhere on any online or offline store. As for games that can be resold, I don't think PS and Xbox have the system of trading cards which can be sold for real PS Wallet (Or whatever they call it). Also if a PC gamer owns CSGO and is good at it, skins of CSGO can be collected and be sold for real Steam Wallet money. One of my friend's got a skin worth 271$ even though he is not skilled and doesn't dedicate much time to it(He is Silver Elite, which is one of the lower ranks in CSGO. And BTW CSGO is 9$) and sold it. Some 230$ were added to his wallet because of what the Steam takes for being the middleware. I'm sure consoles don't have this. SO basically you get two skins like that and the cost of a PS4 is entirely covered. Now tell me which is cheaper?

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FamilyGuy3203d ago (Edited 3203d ago )

Remember that whole "coding to the metal" thing that was tossed around a lot when the PS4 was announced?
It's the same reason the PS4 Pro "punches above its weight class".
PCs are bogged down by their OS and other applications, similarly spec'd PCs can't do what console can, they have to be better.
Now reaching the Pro quality on a $400 budget? lol

And LMAO at the people below tacking the cost of PS+/XBL on to the cost of console gaming as if we have to pay for those services or as if there aren't tons of single player games or as if paying for those services didn't grant up access to dozens of games at throughout the year that more than make up for the cost. Just saw Lords of the Fallen for sale at Walmart for $40 lol

people are hilarious when they're grasping at straws.

PC gamers, your games are cheaper to buy, that is your win. Much much cheaper in many cases. Just go with that.

TheOptimist3202d ago

Do you get CSGO skins worth 230$ even though you are not skilled at the game? (Which covers the cost of about 10 games for us). And I have heard many people say that the games that Sony offers are almost always shovelware, thus the main complain of users, and not all gamers want to play always single player games, so yeah the price stacks on. Also, that "coding to the metal" thing is almost non-existent. Witcher 3 runs on a lower end PC, almost the same as the console counterparts (400$ at launch)

Dude Dutch3203d ago

Howdy does Uncharted 4 perform on your rig?

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fanboysmackdown3204d ago

For what the Pro is, it's good value but I would need a pricey monitor to go with it.

S2Killinit3204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

Not necessarily. The power is still there. You can use better graphics without the resolution. Its like saying i can't use a PS4 or Xbox one because i dont have a 1080p tv. That doesnt mean you wont notice the difference between a PS3 and a PS4.

fanboysmackdown3204d ago

Still not buying it until I can utilize the best out of it, why would I buy it now when I have a perfectly good PS4 and a 1080p tv? To anyone who is diving in with their 1080p tellie, good on you.

S2Killinit3204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

That's definitely your prerogative. No arguments. My gf wont upgrade either. But me and my sister both want it. Although she doesnt have a 4K, she still wants the graphical upgrade. I on the other hand, Im a sucker for the best tech. Especially with Playstations as I've never regretted buying one.

bmf73643204d ago

I'm pretty sure someone at Guerrila outed that the PS4 Pro is only capable of outputting higher resolutions with very little graphical upgrades because of what Sony is pushing for with the system.

extermin8or3203d ago

@S2killinit I'm the same. :p love having new tech. If I'm going to own a device I want the highest end version or I feel I'm missing out on something potentially.

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seanpitt233204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

I have a 1080p monitor and still getting the pro I will look forward to playing 1080p ultra settings 60/30fps depending on the game so it's worth it to me. I will buy a TV early next year! the the longer I wait the cheaper it will be but at least I can play BF1 at ultra settings 1080p on my pro this year without getting a PC.

Psychotica3204d ago

Except when the PC gets old you don't have to buy the entire thing again. I still have the same case from 8 years ago but have swapped out motherboards, video cards, memory etc several times since then. PC's are also used for non entertainment things which makes it a better value in my opinion.

Livecustoms3204d ago

Can't disagree with you really, only bad thing for me is all my friends are on console (there your typical fifa and sport gamers) so im basically forced to stick to console to play with them. Although dont get me wrong the Playstation ecosystem is solid in itself.

MatrixxGT3204d ago

My PS3 lasted 8 years too..

Psychotica3204d ago

Yes, I have two of them myself though I haven't played anything on them for close to two years now.

Destiny10803204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

I'm confused you said you swapped out everything several times except the case and then say:

Except when the PC gets old you don't have to buy the entire thing again

so the only thing you haven't swapped out several times is the case

Psychotica3204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

I meant you don't have to buy everything again at the same time. One year I upgraded the video card, a year or two later I upgraded the motherboard and cpu etc etc.

_-EDMIX-_3204d ago

Agreed. Mind you, certain GPUs that release may not fit in modern cases, or certain motherboard configurations may not fit in cases either. The case many times is the thing most won't need to change as often, but when doing a full upgrade, for the most part......your still basically buying the whole thing. I rarely just keep upgrading. My next build isn't going to be few upgrades, it MUST be the whole thing.

Need a new motherboard to get the performance for a new CPU, to get the performance of a new GPU, new PSU as the GPU is more powerful, need more ram to match current specs etc

If someone upgrades some parts every few years like 1 or 2, they are ALREADY spending more then on console by default. If they don't and upgrade every gen like I actually do......I mean they are still spending more LMFAO!

The parts of PC will always cost more as Sony, MS Nintendo etc are getting HUGE bulk discounts on their custom parts and the performance of something on the board or mantel actually performs BETTER then the PC part as PCI Express bottlenects some performance so your always having to spend a bit MORE to get the same performance on PC by default.

Someone can get a cheap PC during the gen, sure, but they would have to wait mid gen NEXT GEN in order to even get the same type of deal.

ninjazfistz3204d ago (Edited 3203d ago )

He can keep his power supply, hard drives, same keyboard and mouse. Only things he really needs to upgrade is the GPU and CPU. Sometimes the motherboard can be used still if the socket is still supported.

Edit: Can reuse the system ram and cpu cooler as well

s45gr323203d ago

Me and my console mentality kept my PC running since 2011.

I originally bought a HP pavilion OEM for $700.00 plus tax.

Ended up buying a new case
A new GPU
A new powersupply

That was the first year
In the second year bought another GPU
Third year bought the NVIDIA GTX 480
My brother overcloked the CPU

After its 3 year (2011) I stop upgrading my PC. That is 5 years without upgrading my PC 😮. Shocking I know

PC specs

AMD PHENOM 2 quad core processor
4gb of DDR2 RAM
500gb of HDD
NVIDiA GTX 480

I cant play new DOOM damn it. I can play Offworld trading company 😀.

nitus103203d ago

Basically, if you upgrade the motherboard you normally upgrade the CPU and possibly the memory which are the main upgradable components of any modern Desktop PC. Storage devices can normally be kept although it is always a good idea to check the performance of your storage devices and replace them if you notice allot of errors.

Laptops and tablets have very limited upgrade potential compared to Desktops.

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curtis923204d ago

PC enthusiasts who might respond prematurely with the obvious need to check out DF's hands on and impressions of the PS4 Pro. Sony's good at making hardware punch above it's weight -- their words. It's not a 1:1 rx480 pc rig.

Ysmir67233204d ago

Sure,where a pc 480 is 6.0 tflops(OC) and the ps4s 480 4.2 tflops,with same architecture,isnt 1:1 ratio???Not when a 970 is 150$ and is faster than a pc 480.Dont forget the ps4 very slow cpu.For 2016,the "new" ps4 is inperformance,about a 3,5-4/10 pc,quite behind from the mid entry 970.

SweatyFlorida3204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

I don't get you guys, where is gtx 970 consistently lower than 200? quick amazon search pops up most are over $300. No, you need to stop saying "just buy used", when the same can be said for Pro if someone bought it used it would be around $300. Same thing if it went on sale. Sure its obviously smarter to buy deals or whatever, but you're not comparing 1:1 at that point. For whatever you can build with PC for $400 when Pro releases, using BRAND NEW PARTS, I can bet the difference will be little for PC, whether that's worth losing for Sony's exclusives will vary from person to person, but I don't see any rig for $400 blowing Pro out the water like some people like to exaggerate. I've seen the "potato smasher" which is some $350+ rig and for dues ex mankind divided it was hardly better than og PS4, the differences were minuscule nor could it run at 60 fps at 1080p with higher settings, it had frame drops staying mostly near 30 at medium settings.

Ysmir67233204d ago (Edited 3203d ago )

@SweatyFlorida evga 970 was 143$ at microcenter at 2015.At least 30 of my friends bought 970 for 150-160$,290 for 120-130$.50% off i7 and i5 cpus.Pc parts are way higher quality,new or used.

@Recycling_seagull I have more than 100 pc gaming friends.It looks like your face caught on fire and someone tried to put it out with a fork.

GorillaSceptre3204d ago

You're right, it's definitely not 1:1.. The RX 480 is a 5.8 teraflop GPU.

These articles are always full of ridiculously inaccurate information.. Where the author pulled 5.2 from i don't know. Probably did a quick google search and saw the theoretical performance pre-boost clock.

The optimization benefits of current consoles is also grossly exaggerated, things have changed. They now run on the same architecture as PC.

Besides, the GPU isn't even the problem in the PS4 Pro, it's that tablet CPU that's terrible. Even modest Intel or AMD desktop CPU's slaughter the consoles.. Heck, even the PS3 nearly does.

FreddyFazbear3204d ago

For the price to performance ratio? NO!! Simple answer. You cannot build a rig with 399 dollars only. The thing with consoles is, they are optimized for gaming unlike windows OS you need ridiculous specs to get the results you want.

Ysmir67233204d ago

Why would you limit yourself at 400$?Dosent the ps4 have yearly fee?My cousins pc from last year is 505$ and it has a 143 $ msi 970 from microcenter,i5 4670k 4,4 ghz,8 gb ram,1 tb wd blue,550 seasonic psu,corsair case,kingston 128 gb ssd,asus z97 mb.Win 7 was 10$.Along with much lower game prices,a much better deal than the upgraded ps4.

TheColbertinator3204d ago

Free online,steam sales all just make the case that consoles are more expensive anyway

FreddyFazbear3204d ago

Did you comprehend what i just said? Did you also not understand the article?? Your waaay off topic. The title said can you build a pc that can match the ps4 pro? My answer is NO. Ps4 pro is prices at 399 dollars and you cannot build a rig from 399 to match the ps4 pro. Thats it. We are not talking about who had the best value. Of course a 505 dollar rig is better than a 399 dollar rig no brainer. Jeez. Why i bother to reply

Ysmir67233204d ago

@FreddyFazbear well,if you think all the features that a pc provides,among many other things,isnt worth 100$,you are either delusional or ignorant.If you are so cheap that you make a case for 100$ more,sure you must wait for game prices to go to 5$???If you dont care about best value,why exactly are you so defensive of this console price???Your whole money is 400$???Maybe your a kid who cant afford anything he desires and you hoped for that price so that your family could buy it for you???Dont be blind.Without computers,you wouldnt be able to have this low end pc to paly and to watch games.Just know that in this price,you actually pay for a gpu worst than a low-mid end 470 and a upgraded tablet cpu.

FreddyFazbear3204d ago

Oh dear, calling me a kid when you have reading comprehension problems. Your off topic AGAIN. Let me be clear. This is not about consoles vs. PCs. Okay?? The article states can you build a pc matching the ps4 pro specs and price?? Thats all there is to it. I dont know what your getting at. Im guessing you just say alot of things to not look bad, or you dont want losing an argument. Well guess what im not arguing im just saying your off topic and explaining why. Dont butt in PC are the best because that is purely subjective. I like consoles for gaming and use PCs for work and other things and thats my preference period.

leoms3204d ago

What yearly fee? My PS4 runs fine and I don't pay a yearly fee...??? What are you on about?

JamesBroski3204d ago

No way your cousin's PC costed $505 brand new.

http://pcpartpicker.com/lis...

Unless he bought it used, but that's not the point of the article.

_-EDMIX-_3204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

Don't MMO's have fees?

You don't need to pay for PS Plus just like you don't need to pay for subscription based games on PC bud..

As a person that builds my PC every gen and for a few of my friends.....no. Its never going to be cheap, I've added it up MANY times for MANY people and its not going to be cheaper. As to where you got those numbers from...beyond me lol.

As for games "lower game prices" LMFAO!

http://store.steampowered.c...

no.

https://www.amazon.com/Call...

Games will always be generally cheaper on console based on not only being disk based, but not having CD Codes tied to the game.

Mind you....I own both console and PC. Please put your BS lies to rest bud ,we've heard this many times on this site.

Not even sure why I would want 8GB of ram in such a build too LMFAO!

Sorry but that is a crap build...

@TheColbert- PSN and XBL also have sales......, mind you, used games are cheaper ALL YEAR ROUND, PC games....not so much.

So you wait for a sale that PS and XB gamers are also getting? LMFAO! All while PS, XB and Nintendo gamers are getting year around used games that are cheaper?

I own a PC bud...dear god stop lying about this BS please. If I want to play Mass Effect 3 TODAY, how much would I have to pay on PC?

http://store.steampowered.c...

or

https://www.amazon.com/Mass...

Soooooo I think I'd rather buy it for 94 cents....

but no, by all means continue to spend 5 to 20 times more all while waiting for a sale...

Again....I own a gaming PC AND console. I buy the cheapest and I hunt for the best price and the format of my choosing and you are 100% incorrect. I'm not waiting for a few times a year to buy PC games based on sales...sales that exist on PSN and XBL LMFAO!

Sooo its your sales a few times a year, vs EVERYDAY on console.

RedDevils3204d ago

And I still have better rig than your cousin lol anyway I still find little to no reason to go buy the PRO.

yeahokwhatever3203d ago

factor in the power consumption costs...

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Sony Looking To Sell A Lot Of PS4 Pro's Come Christmas Says Jim Ryan

In a recent interview with GamesIndustry.biz , Sony's Jim Ryan talked a bit about the PS4 Pro and how they had underestimated its demand.

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donthate2920d ago

According to Pachter, the PS4 Pro sales aren't doing very good. Maybe drop the price $50 and bundle in a game since Xbox One X is coming?

thatguyhayat2920d ago

Patcher baffles himself sometimes. Ps4 pro is doing really well

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2919d ago

Agreed. If 1 in 4 PS4's being sold is a Pro anything Pachter says about PS4 Pro sales numbers should be completely ignored.

bigmalky2920d ago

You can buy a PS4 Pro, with Horizon and Wipeout for £350 in the UK at the minute. Basically, you're getting the console for £280... I'd say that's a bargain. Why do people keep asking for another £50/$50 off when plenty of places do bundle deals with great prices?

Ju2920d ago

I have the feeling there is a price cut coming for the holidays.

LamerTamer2920d ago

They will have a hard time with X1X out.

bigmalky2920d ago

No they won't. Most parents will probably go for the cheaper option for Christmas presents. Most gamers that were waiting for a price for XoX, unless they're die hard Microsoft fans or spec junkies, will see that Sony have a cheaper option with huge exclusives coming in the new year, along with third party titles that will probably look little different to their XoX counterparts.

It's amazing how biased opinions seem to speak for the entire gaming population, instead of looking at people as beings that can, and will, use logic.

Petebloodyonion2920d ago

Most parents will go for the basic version of Ps4 or Xbox1 instead of a pro or X1X.
Most parents will ask if it's play COD, FIFA or GTA since theses are the biggest sellers on both platforms.
Most parents don't have freaking clues about the exclusives coming on Xbox or PS4 just like you probably don't have a clue about exclusive deals coming on Apple music.

It's amazing how N4G hardcore gamers seem to speak for the entire gaming population, instead of looking at people as beings that can, and will, follow the herd of COD/ GTA/ FiFA.

bigmalky2920d ago (Edited 2919d ago )

@Petebloodyonion

If you read my post properly, you'll see that I said parents will go for the cheaper console. I never even mentioned whether that's the upgraded models or not.

As for the games, it was in regard to gamers wanting a console, not the parents. Totally different sentence and subject.

It's amazing how people would actually look less like idiots if they actually read an entire post, before jumping on someone's comments.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2919d ago

If Sony drops the price of the Pro and it's $150 cheaper than the $500, checkerboarding beast, the only thing Sony will have a hard time doing is shipping Pro's to retailers.

bigmalky2919d ago

They don't need to drop the price. You can buy a Pro with one or two games in a package for £100 cheaper than an XoX with nothing on it's release.

LIGATURE2919d ago

I love ps4 but if the x gives all the multiplat games at least 1080/60 and update past multiplat games then id go for the x.but id get a switch before ither😂

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Spider-man preview: how PS4 exclusive aims to take on the Marvel Cinematic Universe - The Telegraph

Spider-man’s show-stopping gameplay reveal stood out like a New York City skyscraper on the skyline of Sony’s unusually flat E3 press conference.

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Pixel Related Podcast: Episode 42 – E3 2017 Recap

Pixel Related writes: "The majority of the excitement of E3 has passed already for this year and together we take a look at the big announcements and moments from all of the big press conferences. We’re talking Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo, as well as the developer conferences of EA, Ubisoft and Bethesda. Tons of games, a handful of surprises and some serious questions about what kinds of drugs people are taking these days."

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