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Hands-on with the PS4 Pro: a console a little too ahead of its time? - VG247

VG247: "Harder, better, faster, stronger: the PS4 Pro is here. What are we to make of it? Alex reports in from New York."

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fanboysmackdown3207d ago

I have been thinking the same thing. I don't own a 4k tv yet and was planning on one in the next few months and I think a lot of people are in the same scenario. I think Pro is out a little too soon because of low 4k adoption rate and with no 4k bluray I'm holding off and waitng for Scorpio because that now gives me 14 months to plan. I was stoked for the Pro but now I'm gonna wait. There are so many Sony purists out there who jump down the throat of anyone who criticizes their favorite cult and it gets pretty sickening so in repeating myself, this is my plan and everyone has their own.

Orbilator3207d ago

I think your comment is fine, comments that get attacked are those that say it's under powered or no uhd blue ray. Well I'm sorry but a ps4 pro is a box for gaming, not watching movies.
And most games they show have excellent improvement.

Ps4 pro is just what it says it is a pro gamers ps4 and nothing else.

fanboysmackdown3207d ago

For you watching movies may not be important, but to me it is. I'm not running out to buy a new 4k tv at the current prices to justify spending another $520 (Canadian) on a console I already own that has a bit of an upgrade. Like I said, the Pro is out a little early for me.

DeadlyOreo3207d ago

"Pro is out a little early for me."

*Looks at comment history*

Yep, Microsoft fanboy confirmed. Your comment is drivel.

darthv723207d ago (Edited 3207d ago )

These consoles have been more than gaming devices since the PS2 and have steadily evolved.

PS4Pro is a box for entertainment. Gaming or otherwise and should not be restricted in such a way as to not let the consumer decide how to enjoy this new 4k media center on their 4k tv.

@s2kill... you just love that "power gap" crap you keep saying. So what about the gap between ps4 and pro. Guess what... there is an EVEN BIGGER one between xb1 and scorpio. When it launches, are you going to praise that as much as you do this???? No.... then just stop.

S2Killinit3207d ago

I think from a business standpoint Sony has essentially killed scorpio by releasing the PS4 Pro. Think about it, the PS4 Pro has the benefit of being novel for 2 reasons:
1) it has a bigger power gap against existing consoles at time of its release (2-3 times more powerful than the others) AND
2) it has the novelty of introducing VR to console gamers.

When scorpio releases, it will only be (roughly) 33% more powerful than other existing consoles. (For those that arent good at math the PS4 Pro, by comparison is between 200%-300% more powerful than existing consoles)
Also by that time console gamers will already be fimiliar with VR.

So, yeah i think PS4Pro is going to really staggnate the sales of scorpio.

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Wallstreet373207d ago

Lol wow I feel like that about Nintendo and Micro fans, even constructive criticism and they go ape %hit lol So that's normal of fans on every platform :)

You see your comment? I respect it. I love Sony consoles for many reasons but I know they aren't perfect. I understand ppl upset about no 4k player and I don't get bothered by the criticism (although I think Sony did the right move to keep costs down).

I appreciate your view. By the way I bought a new 4K TV just for neo :) and I haven't bought a blu ray ever! Even for my Ps4 and do everything streaming, so as long as there are 4k apps I'm good.

fanboysmackdown3207d ago

True that, lots of thin skinned fanboys on every platform but PS fans are like a pack of rabbid wolves in diapers.

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TFJWM3207d ago

What 4k TV did you pick up?

Wallstreet373207d ago

Tfj....

I bought a 65 inch sharp with 4k and HDR for 900 on sale at PC Richards. Sharp aren't the best for 4k but at that price and with HDR I couldn't go wrong. As it stands the HDR and screen really pops and looks nice!!!!

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PeaSFor3207d ago

" so many Sony purists out there who jump down the throat of anyone who criticizes their favorite cult and it gets pretty sickening so in repeating myself"

well, look like you repeated yourself MANY TIMES:

"And Sony cultists are the biggest flip floppers of all."

"the Sony cult will do everything in their power to downplay it but to me it's a big deal as I cancelled my Pro preorder because of no 4k bluray"

"4K bluray omission is inexcusable and makes it look like a cheap ass update. You Sony fannies would take a bullet for them wouldn't ya'?"

"cheap asses who left out 4k bluray. You sound like another butthurt Sony flag waver."

"butthurt fanboy because you're favorite console maker will be sucking hind tit in the power department. You fannies need to get over yourselves."

"Scorpio kicks Neo's ass in power, no way around that one......sorry fanboys, no matter how you spin it MS will come out with the more powerful console this gen"

"I'd just as soon buy an X1 slim and wait for the Scorpio so THE MOST IMPORTANT FEATURE for ME is, I'll wait for the Scorpio "

"Neo $450-500, no way I see $400."

but anyway... WHO CARE ABOUT GAMES?YOU OBVIOUSLY WANT MOVIES!!!!! The XBO S can play UHD movie discs, so SCREW GAMESS!!!!!1!^^@!@!@&^!^!^ !!!!!!!!

MasterCornholio3207d ago (Edited 3207d ago )

Dang.

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This has to be controlled.

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objdadon3207d ago

Don't even understand the Blu-ray player talk. I can't even remember the last time i actually watched a movie on a dvd. Really, i can't. As far as the console it does what it should do better, that's gaming.

NewMonday3207d ago

@fanboysmackdown

that is totally fine, Sony actually emphasize that you don't "need" the Pro, all content is the same, but it is available for..

1) those who want want stronger tech sooner
2) millions of hold outs from last generation

it doesn't matter to Sony if you use a Pro or a slim, they only charge you once the same amount for a game that an be played on both anytime you like.

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Orbilator3207d ago (Edited 3207d ago )

Got my 4K tv already so I'm upgrading. Also gonna add a 960gb ssd and that's me

DeadlyOreo3207d ago

Yep same. Finally my 4k can get put to good use, I can't wait for the Pro to release.

Pintheshadows3207d ago

I can't afford a TV to make the most of this yet.

iTechHeads3207d ago

Definitely ahead of its time. Right now it is mostly for early adopters of 4K/HDR TVs.
In a few years PS4 Pro will be a must-buy while the original PS4 will be discontinued. It's like when the original Xbox 360 without an HDMI port was removed from retail in favor of the one with HDMI. It's progress, progress not everyone is ready for.

TheColbertinator3207d ago (Edited 3207d ago )

Outdated the moment it was announced

Tussin1873207d ago

Outdated by what exactly? If your a console only gamer, please tell me how the Pro is outdated? Is there going to be a more powerful system on the market we don't know about when the Pro launches?

As usual, I see well thought out comments on site. O_o

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Even the Meta Quest can be an Xbox — Leaked images show an Xbox-branded Quest 3S

Windows Central writes: "CEO of Microsoft Gaming, Phil Spencer, had previously been vocally opposed to the idea of a native Xbox headset, stating in 2019 that 'nobody's asking for VR' on Xbox. However, Microsoft's marketing strategy for the Xbox Series X|S generation has shifted with the rise of Xbox Cloud Gaming and the 'This is an Xbox' marketing."

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mooreneco2112h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Ah, a contributing factor to Meta dropping PSVR2 support for Beat sabre! Microsoft’s always stuck with the modus operandi of “if you want an original idea steal someone else’s” and try to destroy markets they cannot win in. They are doing to to console gaming and now trying VR!

OtterX12h ago

It's like a rich kid who pays the smart kid to do his homework for him.

*Yea, such a shame about Beat Saber dropping Playstation support btw. :\

OtterX12h ago

The XBox way. Hardware, even game development companies.... let them do the hard work of building things, throw them some money, then slap an XBox logo on it!

Jin_Sakai12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Good old fragmentation. Just what Xbox needed.

IRetrouk12h ago

Looks nicer than the standard one

PapaBop9h ago

This is probably nothing more than a branding attempt to show Xbox really is on all platforms. The Quest already has the Xbox Cloud app that supposedly works great. Would be cool if Microsoft actually entered the VR space in a larger capacity but if they was doing that, I imagine they'd have showcased it at their summer showcase.

Vits6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Yeah, it's basically the same idea as the ROG Ally Xbox. Just a regular device that gives you access to the Xbox library and carries the brand, but nothing really special or groundbreaking beyond that. It’s not some custom Xbox hardware, just a repackage of existing tech with a logo and some software perks.

Now, when it comes to VR, Microsoft actually made a pretty serious attempt with something called Windows Mixed Reality. It wasn’t just a headset, they were aiming for an open ecosystem. They had APIs for developers, support baked into Windows, and even tools to convert regular desktop content into VR environments. On paper, it was a solid play. But it never caught on, third part support was half-baked and basically only Samsung headsets were worth anything. After about five years of trying to push it, they gave up and shelved the whole thing.

The bigger issue here is that VR just isn't ready for the mainstream. People love to hype it up, but at the end of the day, it’s a hard sell unless it’s cheap enough to feel like an impulse buy and even when you can do that, you need to support it with software. Making it a extremelly expensive segment for any company, just look at Meta, bleeding literal billions every years trying to get this stuff off the ground, and they are the market leaders.

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Japan: Nintendo Switch 2 already outsold lifetime sales of Xbox Series X|S and PS5 Digital Edition

The Nintendo Switch 2 has proved to be a success the world over, however, one nation which is particularly keen on the Nintendo’s latest platform is naturally Japan. Recent sales data has shown that…

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shadowT1d 13h ago

biggest console launch ever!

CrashMania1d 8h ago

yeah nothing is gonna dethrone nintendo in japan, especially if there's a handheld involved.

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goken19h ago

Wow… Nintendo is champ in Japan, but the speed of sale is remarkable.

Proves that console gaming isn’t dead yet not by a long shot.

gold_drake1d 5h ago

not surprised, the switch is relatively cheap in japan.

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DivineHand1251d 4h ago

I guess the resistance against always online and digital only consoles is BS. The people have voted with their wallets.

NotoriousWhiz1d 3h ago

What are you talking about? Switch 2 is neither always online nor digital only.

DivineHand1251d 2h ago

Nintendo can literally block your Switch 2 console from accessing their online services at any time. When that happens, it becomes a brick. You won't even be able to play those games that use game key cards that are not installed on the console. Some users who have been blocked tried factory resetting their system, and when they tried to boot it up with a new account, they are stuck.

Speaking of game key cards, the majority of third party publishers have opted to use those instead of loading their full game on those cartridges. Imagine having a library of game key card games and going on a long trip but not being able to play a particular game because you need to connect to Nintendo servers to download the game first. It is not like the old days where you just plug in and play.

Game key cards make sense for large games like GTA, Red Dead, or COD, but I don't see why publishers who have games with sizes less than 32 GB need to use that option.

Profchaos1d ago

If you try to mod your system it could get banned from online play like every single system since the ps3 and xbox

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The director of the original Silent Hill: “I look forward to seeing bold interpretations.”

Keiichiro Toyama—the creator and original director of the 1999 Silent Hill—shared his personal thoughts on the recently announced remake by Konami, reflecting on what the project means to him after more than two decades:
“I felt something similar when the game was adapted into a movie. It deeply moved me to see the names of the characters and locations I had created come to life visually, even though I wasn’t directly involved. That wouldn’t have been possible without the continued support of the fans and the dedication of the developers who’ve kept the series alive.
I’m really looking forward to seeing how the remake evolves this time. With the advanced technology we now have, I’m sure I’ll be surprised by how the game is reimagined. Since the original was built for the first PlayStation, there will naturally be challenges—like the camera and controls—but I’m eager to see bold and creative solutions to those elements.”

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senorfartcushion2d ago

Haha Not only is bold and creatively not what the industry wants, it’s not what most people want.

They want to get scammed and pay twice for a thing they already own.

jznrpg1d 3h ago

I’m sure many would want bold and creative done well, but that’s easier said than done. I like variety so give me a little bit of everything, done well of course.

Nightcrawler892d ago

Hope they use his vision in the game

Inverno2d ago

Was the SH2 remake even bold? Or was it more or less just a 1 to 1 over the shoulder remake?

Scissorman1d 11h ago

it was not. it greatly expanded the areas and puzzles to the point where it felt like an entirely new game. the enemies and boss fights were given a MASSIVE upgrade. the abstract daddy fight in particular was incredible. and the team added two new endings.

Pedrof2d ago

I wouldn't hold my breath on "bold".

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