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Rise of the Tomb Raider 4K Screenshot Comparison: Native Maxed PC vs PS4Pro

After the PS4 Pro announcement, it's time to compare Rise of the Tomb Raider 4K running on a native PC with maxed settings and on the new console.

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KaiPow2804d ago

It's still quite impressive running on a machine that costs less than just a solid GPU.

Alexious2804d ago

Absolutely. There are differences, but they're fairly minor and probably hard to notice during gameplay.

Though a powerful enough PC could run it at 60FPS or more, while PS4 Pro will be limited at 30.

Eonjay2804d ago

Yeah it looks fantastic but lets be serious about the cost of a 'powerful enough PC'. Its weird because you would hear about PC gamers playing in 4k but I don't think anyone really was able to understand the cost of achieving this res at 60 FPS. So then this machine, the Pro, even upscaling with this much fidelity at 4k for $399 is unbelievable.

starrman19852804d ago (Edited 2804d ago )

I'd say they are actually quite noticeable, but as KaiPow said - you're spending a LOT more to get a PC up to those visuals.

For the disagrees - I get that they both look great, but look at the blood textures on her arm, they look much flatter on the PS4 Pro. The textures on the artefact type thing on the right, where the light reflects off, you can see a lot more of the texture. The dynamic range of the lighting down her arm (that might be different monitor settings though) also the colours look a lot richer, but again that could be monitor settings. I just think the differences are definitely noticeable but I'm not trying to discredit the Pro. If someone said to me you can get game quality like the left image for £350 and quality like the right for £1200 - I'd take the left.

2pacalypsenow2804d ago (Edited 2804d ago )

To run this game at a solid 60fps in 4k Maxed out you would need 2 1080 SLI that's over $1200 just in video cards. I think the majority of gamers will be fine with 30fps for $399

MadLad2804d ago

@2pacalypsenow

It really depends on where your standards lie.
I honestly can't stand gaming at 30fps.

I know people claim it's just fine and that it's perfectly playable ...
But that's just it ... it's just "playable".

Lowest common denominator doesn't work for me anymore.

Erik73572804d ago (Edited 2804d ago )

You can't even truly see the differences though how can you say that?4k native will blow you away if your were seeing it in action on pc for a game like this. Everything is unbelievably sharp and you can see things from like a mile away it's crazy.

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Tech52804d ago

GTX 1060 Ultra settings (including Textures) 1440p uncapped performance.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

$259.99 GPU

Unspoken2804d ago

30 fps is last gen. Actually it was the gen before that. We used to have 60 fps games when CRT and tube television was the norm. Then 3D hit main stream and we accepted the lowest minimum standard to be playable.

We need to push hardware engineers and devs to hit the 60 fps sweet spot. We still have a ways to go before we see fluid gameplay at 120hz and 144hz but if we keep accepting the cinematic experience of the weaker hardware with no way to adjust it to achieve higher frame rates, then it will continue to look like a slide show that is just barely playable.

At $399, this is the sweet spot for midrange all in one compromise though I'd rather spend a couple extra hundred on an upgradable machine and play at any resolution and settings I choose. Paying 800 to 1K+ isn't reasonable but the modular design of the PC is what allows it to be attractive because you can spread the cost out as well as the ownership.

You can now attain ridiculously low power number's in small form factor PCs, and that trickles down to consoles, but at what cost. As consumers, let's get that 60 fps box checked so we can push other boundries.

Death2803d ago

It's ironic to see some people that still refuse to believe games upscaled from 900p to 1080p count, yet they absolutely believe upscaling from 1080p to 4K is a viable option.

If you are a PC gamer looking to game in native 4K, the GTX1070 is a great card for the cost of a PS4 Pro. I don't see many PC gamers jumping to a console for the same price as a midline GPU today. Keep in mind new GPU's released annually and the performance increase is huge. I'm not sure the theoretical PC gamers on a console budget exist. PC gaming is a completely different animal.

XanderZane2803d ago

@bruce755
Yes, but this is upscaled 4K running at 30fs. On PC it would be native 4K running at 30 or 60fps. XBox One upscaled all their games that weren't 1080P to 1080P and they looked beautiful as well. Yet fanboys screamed they weren't native 1080P and didn't look as good. The same could be said for this game as well. It won't look or run as good as a native 4K version. This is the cheap way of doing 4K on game consoles, even though it works. I just find it funny that everyone is now "accepting upscaling resolution" now that it's on the PS4. No one was accepting it on the XB1 however. So many hypocrites.

Yes, the game still looks great, but it's been said many times, before it was on the PS4. Without any upscaling.

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MadLad2804d ago (Edited 2804d ago )

There are GPU's in the 200 - 250 range that hugely outperform today's consoles.
Yes, that's only one part. And yes, to build a modern gaming PC is more expensive than to simply purchase a console; at least when you're talking purely the cost of the hardware itself.
But let's be real here. We are long past the days where you need a $400+ GPU to be handling high performance gaming.

Scatpants2804d ago

$250 cards would struggle at 4k

Bladesfist2803d ago

@Scatpants So will the PS4 Pro and the Scorpio and High End GPUs. Everything struggles at 4k.

MadLad2803d ago

@Scatpants

I said literally nothing about 4K. I said that cards between 200 - $250 seriously outperform consoles in today's market. Why should we bring 4K into a comparison of consoles that sometimes don't even hit 1080p?

Erik73572804d ago (Edited 2804d ago )

To me its not impressive. To me it's just "you get what you pay for".

Even then this image does not do justice with just how amazing native 4k looks.

Hoffmann2804d ago

You have folders on a pc tho :P

mark3214uk2804d ago

question is, is that 1080p up scaled to 2160p or 1440p up scaled to 2160p?

either way that rendering algorithm there using is amazing to make it look pretty much the same as native 4k

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kaizokuspy2804d ago

All I see in native is slightly better blood, rocks in the back look a tad sharper, lighting is slightly more luminescent, and obviously more foliage. Coming from someone who knows nothing about 4k, or pc gaming, ps4 pro still looks pretty amazing to me. I can't denied native looks better, but still, I'm impressed considering just 2 years ago I was still only using an x360 before getting a ps4

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Imp0ssibl32804d ago

PS4 Pro is a beast. Yes, Scorpio will be more powerful...Of course, it launches a year later.
I want to play games on my 4K HDR TV now.

SweatyFlorida2804d ago (Edited 2804d ago )

You're exactly who they are targeting. It's weird people saying "what's the point of this console", it's quite literally a (relatively) cheap option that can run games better and make them look good in 4k/hdr displays, all while still providing a sizeable benefit for 1080p owners with enhanced graphics/fps. All before the holidays of THIS YEAR.

People expecting the console to render all games natively at 4k, yet still cost $399, are delusional. But as we've already seen, it will have some games that can do natively, maybe not the biggest and newest blockbusters, but I can expect some nice looking indies or smaller titles (among a few outliers like remasters) being native 4k for crisp graphics and color.

respekanize912804d ago

paddling in the same boat with you my friend...OG PS4 off to the bedroom you go.

boodi2803d ago

@impossible
'nuf said

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Aurenar2804d ago

Crystal Dynamics works very well. But I will play in my PS4 "standard". I'm not a Pro :p

ftwrthtx2804d ago

But how will next weeks update with HDR support for the current PS4's improve the graphics? If Sony made it look too good, they may have shot themselves in the foot.

starrman19852804d ago

HDR doesn't really improve the graphics as such, it's more the colours. You get a much higher dynamic range, so blacks will be blacker, things like sun rises etc will look beautiful because you'll see things how your eyes might rather than a lens.

Alexious2804d ago

It will only work for those who have an HDR display, anyway.

Tobsesan2804d ago

It won't even work on the standard PS4 how its supposed to. For the HDR 10 you need HDMI 2.0 to get its full potential.

Christopher2804d ago

The HDR patch will probably only affect 1% of PS4 owners now. And, then, not that much. It's like getting that free air freshener when you go to get your car washed. It's nice, but you were there to get a car washed primarily and that air freshener will be dead in a few days.

Roronoa04112804d ago

the downplaying is amazing…I guess its pointless to get an XB1S right now because 4K and HDR will only effect the 1%… got it.

Christopher2804d ago

@roronoa0411: If that's the only reason, yes. Mass majority of people don't have 4k TVs/monitors, let alone HDR capable ones. The selling point of this by both companies is ahead of itself.

Xb1ps42803d ago (Edited 2803d ago )

The mass don't own lamberginis either so I guess they should just stop making them...

This whole mentality of "I'm not ready" so everyone needs to wait needs to stop.. why shouldn't I be able to game in 4k because you don't have a 4k tv!?!?

And I'll take that free air freshener... thank you very much...

You see it as sony and ms as being ahead of itself and I see it as you're behind screaming and yelling wait for me, I'm not ready....

Christopher2803d ago (Edited 2803d ago )

***The mass don't own lamberginis either so I guess they should just stop making them... ***

And how many Lambergini commercials do you see compared to the marketing of HDR? The point here isn't if it should be there, the point is if it should be a key marketing point when it doesn't affect that many people.

***You see it as sony and ms as being ahead of itself and I see it as you're behind screaming and yelling wait for me, I'm not ready....***

No, I see it as them marketing something to people who don't have it yet and likely won't for about 5 year instead of other features that they do have and can be utilized now.

Xb1ps42803d ago

No the point here is the technology is moving forward... And it shouldn't stop because it's only going to serve 1% of the ppl at the moment.. And the point of marketing is to try and Convince ppl to move on to new technolog, now if you can afford it or not is a whole different story and my point is the ppl that can afford it should not be held back.

So you are basically saying... Screw us that have 4K tv with hdr because you won't get one for another 5 yrs, kind of selfish don't you think? Especially when you consider the fact that 4K tv is getting more affordable in a rapid pace much quicker than when hd was introduced...

And by the way HDR iS not the oonly selling point. if what you have is a 1080p tv you will see benefits too and if it's not enough of a benefit for you then wait those 5 yrs I'm sure we will at least hear something about a ps5 by the..

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StormLegend2804d ago (Edited 2804d ago )

The rock wall looks more detailed on the PS4 Pro. Lara has more blood on the PC version.

starrman19852804d ago

If you mean the one in the distance, that's just the depth of field setting, it's probably toned down for the Pro - which to be honest I don't know why as it it uses up very little resources!

Maxor2803d ago

Because it's the PC that image will have more blood/details regardless of what resolution it is. There will be more blood even it's in 1080p or even 900p. The 4K comparison here is pointless. The PC uses superior lighting and shaders to achieve a better image quality that the PS4 simply do not have the horse power to push.

The point this shit site was trying to make is the comparison between upscaled and native 4K. A task they failed miserably at.

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How And Why Online Multiplayer Is Still A Thing For Dreamcast

A trailblazer for online gaming, some players are still holding a candle for Dreamcast.

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purple1011d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

such a shame, its my fav console by far. it was way better than ps1, problem was ps2 was due to come out, a year or so later, and many just waited for that, especially after the flop that was the Saturn,. (even though it way okay, it didn't sell well,).

ps1 did sell well, a lot of those fans waited for ps2. thus, the downfall of Dreamcast,,

Jingsing14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Every console is responsible for its own destiny, You don't go around pointing fingers at him or her or anybody, cowards do that and that ain't you! you're better than that!

lodossrage13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Not true,

The Dreamcast falling apart was because Sega couldn't make up the pay for the increasing debt from the Sega Master System, Game Gear, 32x, Sega CD, and Sega Saturn. The Dreamcast and Genesis were profitable. But the profits weren't outpacing the debt plus interest.

It had nothing to do with anyone waiting for the PS2

MetroidFREAK2113h ago

You're forgetting the most important part of the story. Sega was losing so much money so fast due to their past failures, they couldn't sustain the business. Even if the PS2 did help the demise of the system, the true blame is Sega themselves

lodossrage10h ago

Exactly

Even Bernie Stolar R.I.P (former Sega exect) admitted in an interview past debt was what hurt the Dreamcast.

Everyone says "Sony killed Sega" when that's not even remotely true. Not just that, but most of their debt came from fighting Nintendo, not Sony

ZeekQuattro8h ago

This. The only truly successful home platform Sega made was the Genesis. Every thing else flopped to varying degrees. The real culprits were Sega of Japan and Sega of America which went to war against each other for some odd reason.

Chocoburger18h ago

I bought a DreamPi to play both Dreamcast and Saturn online! So far I'm only played with two people online with Saturn, and I need to spend more time with the Dreamcast community in order to play with them. I miss ChuChu Rocket online, good times!

Profchaos17h ago

P2P there's even Sega genisis games that still connect online based on this.

Hosted servers wasn't really something I saw regularly on non oc platforms until the 360 era.

Ravenkiss13h ago

The Dreamcast was easily my favorite console of all time, home of many good fighting games

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Report: Sexual Misconduct Investigation Conducted at EA, Suspects Named and What They Did Revealed

EA senior staff has been investigated for sexual misconduct involving female coworkers, and these said people have been named publicly.

isarai1d 20h ago

Aye just call Phil, i mean he somehow made Bobby Kotick's scandal disappear and gave him a few million dollar high five on the way out.

Cacabunga1d 11h ago

I wonder if it will be censored with some in game ads.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

EA about to go down like Activision and then Phil saves the day saying.this is good for the industry and consolidation will help create competition. /s.

ravens521d 15h ago

What's up with all these horny creeps. You gon be horny, fine. Just not at work take care of that shit before you go in. Rub one out if you have to. Don't be a creep at all. ESPECIALLY at work. But don't be one AT ALL.

Extermin8or3_1d 10h ago

I mean part of the issue is that things transpired outside of work....

KwietStorm_BLM1d 10h ago

You think deviants care where they are? Work sometimes makes it an even better situation for them because they can abuse their power.

mudakoshaka18h ago

Nerds think they are Gods when they are making video games.

NotoriousWhiz1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

"it seems that according to EA, given the events transpired outside of work between two adults, and the fact that once investigation has started that the alleged perpetrators didn’t do it again, the investigation is considered closed. [...] The victim still has to work with the people that harassed her."

Yep, EA is disgusting.

Extermin8or3_1d 10h ago

I mean the fact stuff happened outside of work puts EA in quite a difficult position legally. These women don't seem to have reported the matter to the police which kinda ties EA's hands on what they can do. If they don't file reports of the crimes then yeah from EA's perspective it is stuff that happened outside of work. The only exception is the guy that apparently referenced things in the slack channel for work, spending on what he said proving it may be very hard and he may well be able to get away with plausible deniability. I don't like EA and I think these people need to be dismissed but without any legal action being taken, EA can't really do much without risk of being sued themselves for unfair dismissal etc.

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Xbox No Longer Has Its Head In The Game

Microsoft & Xbox have shut down Arkane Austin and Tango Gameworks to lay off more workers, insinuating that they're not in the game anymore.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

They're headless for a long time because closing tango isn't exactly a good move

PapaBop1d 13h ago

Ever since that cringe Kinect reveal they've never been the same. They used to make some amazing games and do great deals with third parties Early on in the 360 era they had games like Chromehounds and Shadowrun, both well ahead of their time. Now instead of nurturing their studios, they'd rather gaslight gamers and throw billions on pre existing studios. Not sure how Spencer is still in a job, I wouldn't trust him to organise a piss-up in a brewery.

Father__Merrin1d 13h ago

We've said all along Spencer needs to go. I wish xbox went back to xbox only with new gears fable forza halo releases lots of third party releases

Those early rainbow 6 Vegas days and phantasy star universe are gone forever

S2Killinit1d 10h ago

MS has its head in the game but the game they are playing is something different from what console gamers expect from a platform. MS’s end game has always been to use the xbox as a trojan horse.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 8h ago

Lol that's funny well this plan they have isn't working homie

1Victor2d ago

“Acquisitions always come with cuts”

343 trillion points shield activated
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All damage reduced to 1 for 343 trillion turns.
MICROSOFT DEFENSE FORCE IS A GO

Tacoboto2d ago

Especially for Microsoft, when Booty pretty much said they didn't know how to handle that many studios.

Why even make the acquisition then.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Didn’t they make the swipe for Bethesda when Sony wanted like 6 months exclusiveness for Starfield

It’s like…chill, you got Rise of the Tomb Raider for a year.

romulus232d ago

Do they always come with senseless cuts becasue that's exactly what cutting Tango was, senseless.

H92d ago

Everyone's acting now that game companies care about games and Xbox is committing the Ultimate betrayal, they are all like this and you have just been quiet about it for far too long

Nuclearmoon2d ago

I wonder if Microsoft do pull out of the console market that it might open the door for valve to relaunch the Steambox. Competition is good for the industry but Microsoft don't even seem to be trying anymore.

UltimateOwnage2d ago

Steam / Valve are one of the few truly pro-consumer bright spots in gaming right now. Thankfully.

Jingsing14h ago

From all the money Valve make from Steam they reinvest almost 0 into creating new AAA titles for the PC platform, Absolutely no giving nothing back in that regard. Wake up.

jwillj2k42d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“Your game has won some pretty significant awards and is a show piece for where we want to go in the future.”

1 hour later.

“We’re gonna have to let you go. You can’t cover our 100 billion dollar acquisition. Oh and take your awards too 👍🏾”

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