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Remedy PR Head On PS4 Pro: “Not A Sequel”, Unlike The Scorpio; “More About Rendering A Way To 4K”

Remedy's head of PR has taken to Twitter to share his thoughts about Sony's PS4 Pro and Microsoft's Xbox Scorpio.

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Thatguy-3103206d ago

This guys gets it. It's not hard to see it. Don't understand why people think this is the start of a new generation. Ps4 pro is just a high end ps4 where as the Scorpio seems to be the next generation for Xbox consoles.

TwoForce3206d ago (Edited 3206d ago )

Oh my god, that's the point. The only i think is Xbox Scropio is scream next gen.

Relientk773206d ago

Xbox Scorpio = Xbox 1.5

What are you even talking about

Xbox Two/Next/Four isn't coming out until like 2019 at the earliest. That will be in the next generation of consoles.

fanboysmackdown3206d ago

You still haven't grasped the English language hey two farts?

WelkinCole3206d ago

The PS4 Pro is just over 2 times the power of the standard PS4 while Scorpio is about 5 times the power of the X1 which is about the same power increase from the 360 to X1.

No one can seriously claim that the PS4 Pro is a next gen console. Scorpio though one can claim its a generation leap.

Last gen it was just from just a small bump from 720-1080p native but the X1 to Scorpio will be 1080p to 4k native which is 4 times. No one can seriously claim this is just a small increase.

blady_man3206d ago

I am getting both, so i dont care what people say lol

Aenea3206d ago

The PS4 Pro is about 3.2 times the power of an X1 and the Scorpio is about 4.6 times the power of an X1. Don't compare apples to oranges and then round down on one and up on the other!

PS. The Scorpio won't do 4k native either, that's a fantasy.

game4funz3206d ago

People love throwing around next gen as if it's based on something real... Let me simplify for folks

Ps4
Ps4slim
Ps4pro

Xbox one
Xbox one slim
Xbox scorpio

freshslicepizza3206d ago

scorpio will do native 4k, you guys just want to say things without any facts. and how can scorpio be a true next gen system if it will not have next gen games that the current xbox one won't? will microsoft have halo 6 on scorpio only? no

Guyfamily9993206d ago

You're really manipulating the information there.
PS4: 1.84TF
Xbox One: 1.31TF
That's a 41 percent disparity.
Xbox Scorpio: 6TF
PS4 Pro: 4.2TF
That's a 43 percent disparity.

Obviously there are other factors at play, the Scorpio's cpu end will likely be much better than the pros. But what I'm saying is, a 40 percent difference IS NOT that big. On base ps4/Xbox one yes, most games were a little sharper on PS4, or had some more foliage or something, but the core gaming experience is not that different. Yes, there is a difference, but if it's really all that matters to you then I don't see you as a gamer, I see you as a graphics obsessed sheep.

There will be a difference. The Scorpio will likely be the "better" console, but it's coming out a year later and has a good chance of costing more.

The PS4 Pro is aiming at two markets.
1) Playstation users with nice TV's who want to better make use of it.
2) Non PS4 owners who when purchasing decide they're willing to pay another 100 dollars for an improved system.
There will of course be plenty of sales from people who aren't in those groups though.

rainslacker3206d ago

Companies are just blurring the lines because if they actually pushed out a next gen console after 3-4 years they'd be criticized to death. Even the new paradigm of legacy support for a while isn't something that precludes it from being a next gen console, it just gives developers or publishers more choice to streamline their releases.

It's just the terminology being used to make it acceptable to the masses.

I wouldn't consider the PS4P a suitable next gen console if it was considered to be one. I would barely accept the Scorpio as a next gen console given the targeted specs, because it won't carry through to the next step in gaming which is native 4K, or high quality VR experiences.

The current mid gen upgrades are just a way to stave off the fact that consoles will be woefully underpowered for the time it takes for what will have to be in the next gen and allow it to survive the duration of that gen, and to get whatever will be next gen to a price which is affordable to the mass consumer market.

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Inzo3206d ago

Unfortunately the Xbox fanboys are desperate to convince anyone owning a PS4 that the Pro is a next gen console like the Scorpio, they need to have a sense that Sony is afraid that xbox might catch up to the Playstation while the release of the Pro confirms quite the opposite.

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gangsta_red3206d ago

What's funny is only Sony fanboys are going around crying and suggesting that there some confusion or comments that the PS4Pro was a next gen console.

You guys created your own false flag and now are going the extra mile with a lie you made up.

Inzo3205d ago

@bg116

What ever helps you sleep at night.

S2Killinit3206d ago

I've been saying this to these xbots all day, they think PS4Pro is competing with scorpio. I wonder what they would say when they hear it from remedy.

Soon as Scorpio releases the PS5 will follow with stronger specs. This is Sony's strategy.

As for me, i just want to enjoy games from now until the next gen systems arrive. PS4Pro is going to be great this chrismas coupled with PSVR.

LexHazard793206d ago

The Scorpio with its beefy specs is not being touted as next gen by MS. They've gone as far as to say that there wont be any Scorpio exclusives aside from the VR stuff and just like the PS4 Pro will have forward compatibility, making the games now look even better on the Scorpio. But who knows, MS has been known to switch shit up, I just wait and see.

But thats a ways out. Right now Im just focused on getting my PS4 Pro paid off. I have several offers on my PS4 Im not wasting anytime. So I'll probably just have my Xbox One til Nov 10, which I recieved an email from Amazon I will get it day one.

Aenea3206d ago

PlayStation is competing with Xbox, next year the top model PS, the PS4 Pro, is thus competing with Xbox's top model, the Scorpio. No matter what anyone thinks that's how it's gonna be.

S2Killinit3206d ago (Edited 3206d ago )

@bakPain
Sounds like a good plan. I have no problem with anyones preferences.

@Aena
Of course it is competing with it. The issue isnt that they are not competitors, the issue is whether the PS4Pro, which has already been touted by many including Sony to be a mid-cycle update, will be the sole competition to scorpio. The answer to that question seems to be "No" because Sony is going to back it up with the next Playstation at some point soon after scorpio's release.

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S2Killinit3206d ago (Edited 3206d ago )

@bg116
its not just the time that makes the scorpio a next gen console as opposed to the PS4Pro, its the totality of the circumstances. The 14 month difference in release is only one factor. The other factors include:
1) MS stating that they will "leave it up to developers to decide if they want to make exclusives for scorpio
2) scorpio having all VR titles exclusive to itself while the older xbox console owners will not have VR games
3) Sony stating that the PS4Pro is a "mid-generation" console and not a new console generation
4) MS stating that they don't believe in "mid-gen" upgrades
5) MS needing to reset the current market as they are loosing market share each and every month
6) fact that Sony's larger install base allows them to wait until MS makes the first move

there is more, but I just don't remember.

Also You mentioned that once PS5 releases, MS will follow with scorpio 2, which is correct, but what I'm telling you is exactly that. Once PS5 releases, of course MS will be working on their own next console, but at that point it will be too early, even for MS (which usually makes a new console every 4 yrs), to come out with a new console (even a mid-gen console) that is EXACTLY why its my OPINION that PS5 will be releasing within a year or year and half of scorpio's release. why? because it makes strategic sense in that MS will not be able to release another console right away, and they won't gain traction in install base/market share. If it makes sense to a non professional like me, I'm pretty sure its clear as day to professionals in the industry.

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Saranya3206d ago

Scorpio isn't nextgen console and you should know that PS4 Pro are weaker than Scorpio.

TwoForce3206d ago

Then why Phil Spencer said that he didn't like Xbox 1.5. That sounds like he want Xbox Scropio to be next gen.

goldwyncq3206d ago

Scorpio isn't next gen either. It's not going to get anything that the original Xbox one won't.

TwoForce3206d ago

Are you sure ? If it true, I agree.

S2Killinit3206d ago (Edited 3206d ago )

Ummm should i bring you the quote where xbox head said they are "leaving it up to developers to decide if they want to make exclusives" ?

Or the fact that ALL VR titles will only be exclusive to scorpio? No other xboxone can play VR games.

But i guess reality isnt really relevant huh.

Angeljuice3206d ago

Yes it is. Spencer only said that Microsoft have no plans to make first party games specifically for the Scorpio. He also stated that 3rd parties are free to do so if they choose. Do you really think they won't?

And he stated "no plans" which leaves room for a strategy switch down the line.

Scorpio is a very different concept. All PS4 games will always work on all systems, Scorpio has no such policy in place.

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@goldwyncq1h ago
[Scorpio isn't next gen either. It's not going to get anything that the original Xbox one .]

Which , promptly was again stated except that in the case is the Xbox one, the Xbox one S will not be using VR and only the Xbox Scorpio will in fact be getting VR exclusive's that the other Xbox one's would not be getting..so in fact ....

[ It's not going to get anything that the original Xbox one won't]

Not true at all.

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PizzaSteve3206d ago

I said it earlier in another article, "Scorpio is a next gen console. PS4 Pro is just PS4.5."

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andrewsquall3206d ago

How many times do you people have to be told? Microsoft has already said that Scorpio games must be compatible and also released on the original severely weak ddr3 Xbone also. Can you explain how is that going to help elevate Scorpio to the next gen status that you claim?

kraenk123206d ago

Scorpio games won't be compatible. That's clear as sauce already. MS will do another 180 soon enough.

xander707693206d ago

It is totally pathetic the way PS4 fans are acting about this, and I say this as a PS4 fan myself. The mental gymnastics being used to deny that these two upcoming consoles are in direct competition is mind numbingly stupid. They are releasing around the same time as each other; that puts them in the same generation/era. I GUARANTEE you they will be sharing multi-plat games, exactly like the PS4 and Xbox one do. The xbox scorpio is more powerful, just accept it. All this crap about one being next gen and the other not being next gen and how they aren't in competition just makes PS4 fans look like whiny babies because the PS4 pro isn't as powerful.

Artemidorus3206d ago

Scorpio won't be next gen either just an extension

Kribwalker3206d ago

At which point in the article does the guy say "unlike the scorpio this isn't a sequel" ?

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VER1ON3206d ago

It will be interesting to see how the PS4 Pro's head start will affect the reception of the Scorpio.

MasterCornholio3206d ago (Edited 3206d ago )

I'm actually wondering what Horizon will do. The game could be a system seller for the PS4 Pro.

@Gamer

"doesn't do native 4k?"

Stick with your PS4 and wait until the PS5 comes out.

ninsigma3206d ago

Horizon is beautiful on the pro. It's definItaly a seller for an upgrade anyway! New game play looked damn good.

gamer11383206d ago

Why? It looked great on OG PS4 before. And now HDR is coming to OG PS4 so what reason is there for me to upgrade to Pro when it doesn't do native 4k?

poppinslops3206d ago (Edited 3206d ago )

Well, let's play this out: the holiday season is upon us, which means PSVR is coming (though how well it does is anybody's guess) and once again Sony's AAA holiday lineup has been delayed to next year - which would be fine if it weren't for 2016's multiplat selection, which is the weakest I've seen in years (needs more Red Dead)... I imagine things will pick up next year, with games like Horizon: Zero Dawn, Persona 5, Gran Turismo and Spiderman (hopefully) set to launch.

That said, by then it'll be up against Nintendo's NX, which might just be a more attractive option for those people who already own 'vanilla' PS4s (or Vitas) - I mean, that Zelda game does look pretty great... Personally, I'll be getting both (and a Scorpio), but that's only because I don't own a PS4 or a Wii-U.

Obviously there are things I can't predict, such as Mass Effect Andromeda or the next Red Dead's release dates - either of which would certainly help the Pro to sell - but as it stands I can't see it selling more than 10 million units by the time Scorpio comes out... not unless PSVR gets an absolutely killer app.

blady_man3206d ago

I will be getting the neo this year, nx in march as it is my b/day so i will ask my wife for it as a b/day present! ;) and latter in the year the scorpio if its not over £450-£500,
Gaming run through my veins!! Lol
I might upgrade my pc gpu as at the moment i have gtx760 but i will wait for the gtx1070 to go down on price!!!

Angeljuice3206d ago

NX isn't attractive to anybody but the most ardent Nintendo fans.

poppinslops3206d ago

I'm getting one and I haven't owned a Nintendo since the N64... Yeah, it won't sell as well as the Wii, but I think you'll be surprised by just how well it does - I know a few people that are planning on getting NXs that didn't own Wii-Us, Wiis or 3DSs.

Never underestimate the Legend of Zelda.

kraenk123206d ago

PSVR already seems to have a killer app with Driveclub VR. Not even wanna think about GTS.

poppinslops3206d ago

You mean Driveclub, the game that was so 'great' that Evolution got shut down?

When it became apparent that these companies were serious about VR, I figured games like Star Citizen, Half Life 3 and other 'real' games would be used to sell it - ala Halo on the original Xbox - but that hasn't happened... instead we've got a bunch of similar-looking 'experiences' and some tacked-on VR modes for games like Final Fantasy XV and Rise of the Tomb Raider.

At the very least I thought Sony would have had No Man's Sky made PSVR compatible, which was a hugely requested feature - or at least it was, before the game flopped - but even that hasn't happened... Call me crazy, but I just can't see very many people spending hundreds of dollars to play games like RIGS or Driveclub.

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Altovoltage3206d ago

And I'm pretty sure when the Scorpio releases Sony will be dropping the price of the PS4 Pro next holiday.

jb2273206d ago

That's the thing. It will obviously take some of the wind out of Scorpio's sails, because instead of seeing the jump in power as a huge gap between PS4 going to Scorpio, we will see the lesser jump of PS4 Pro going to Scorpio. Not only that but Sony devs will have had over an entire year head start to get a good grasp on the system whereas Scorpio specs are still being ironed out, so considering 1st & 2nd year software typically looks quite a bit better than launch software by & large and that launch titles are typically underwhelming compared to the later titles, that power difference may not amount to anything all that significant out of the gate.

Either way I'm interested to see what Scorpio is, but to all of the people acting like it's a foregone conclusion that it'll be some juggernaut, it just seems like putting your cart ahead of your horses. Remember when Kinect was revealed w/ all of these features like finger tracking that didn't even come about until the 2.0 version? Yeah, that's fairly relevant when fully trusting every claim from the same perpetrators of those kinds of falsehoods.

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babadivad3206d ago

The spin is starting already.

MasterCornholio3206d ago

Sony said it very clearly.

Andrew House "But it’s important to note that the choice is yours. Whether you’re playing on PS4 Pro, the new slimmer and lighter PS4, or the PS4 system you bought at launch in 2013, you’ll have access to the same amazing games with the same features and same vibrant community that make PlayStation the best place to play," the post continues."

The PS4 Pro is another PS4 not a next gen system.

TwoForce3206d ago

Oh my god, thank you ! What people expect is just ridiculous.

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Altovoltage3206d ago

People just love to complain about every little thing. Sony is giving everyone an option you can stay with the base model if you have one there's no need to upgrade if you can't or don't want to but the option is there.

S2Killinit3206d ago

Remedy is a MS affiliated developer. Some cant handle the truth it seems.

christocolus3206d ago (Edited 3206d ago )

Wow... Can't believe the spin going on here. Just few days ago many of you here were hoping that Sony does some last minute HW upgrade to the PS4 Neo to get it up to par with the Scorpio specs...and now that it's been officially revealed the narrative has suddenly changed to “Scorpio is next gen” but “PS4 pro is a continuation of current gen”. Why? Cos the PS4pro has been revealed to be less powerful than the Scorpio.... Lmao XD. Would you guys say this if Sony had delayed the PS4Pro and released it close to Scorpio and with similar specs? Lol. Yet it's been said over and over again that both consoles won't have exclusives, both will play current games and both consoles are higher spec'd versions of the current models but you guys prefer to spin it all the way.... Lmao XD. You guys are hilarious. Lol

LexHazard793206d ago

What truth that he didnt confirm anything?

S2Killinit3206d ago (Edited 3206d ago )

@christocolus
Your comment is neither here nor there, and doesnt take any variables into consideration. Im wasting my time typing this. How old are you?

@bakpain
The guy says "its a spin", im pointing out that the person saying is a MS affiliate.

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@timotim1h ago
[No one is denying what Sony said is true. The problem comes in when people are trying to position Scorpio as something different when its exactly the same as well. The exact same sentence is true if you take this quote and replace the words PS with Xbox. Xbox One 2013, Xbox One S and Scorpio will all play the same library of games and use the same accessories. Both Scorpio and PS4 Pro are mid-gen consoles...its just that one is more powerful then the other.]

Except its not the same thing, 1st off Microsoft has no such commitment about VR for the xbox one , or the xbox one S..While they infact openly stated only the Xbox Scorpio will be the only system out in the Xbox's of the series that will have exclusive's that are VR..the other xbox one systems will not.

And again

As what

[Angeljuice53m ago
Microsoft have said that 3rd parties are free to produce Scorpio only games. You won't be playing those on an XBoxOne as it won't be compatible. ]

States this was infact said by Microsoft's very own PR representatives, that infact 3rd parties are fully free to make Xbox Scorpio Exclusive games.

Again Sony and Microsoft are not infact doing the very same thing.
Not just by words only but also by the very actions each company is or has or will be taking.

christocolus3206d ago

@S2killinit

Keep spinning it bro. In the other articles you've been going about saying PS5 will be announced as soon as Scorpio gets released. Lmao XD. Dude.. you are the one who believes Sony will release the PS5 a year or two after the release of the PS4pro and yet you're asking how old I am? The irony. Glad you aint in charge of running Sony. Lol. You are hilarious. XD

S2Killinit3206d ago (Edited 3206d ago )

what spin? Everything I'm saying is common sense. Look at the totality of the circumstances:
1) MS stating that they will "leave it up to developers to decide if they want to make exclusives for scorpio
2) scorpio having all VR titles exclusive to itself while the older xbox console owners will not have VR games
3) Sony stating that the PS4Pro is a "mid-generation" console and not a new console generation
4) MS stating that they don't believe in "mid-gen" upgrades
5) MS needing to reset the current market as they are loosing market share each and every month
6) fact that Sony's larger install base allows them to wait until MS makes the first move.

Why wouldn't Sony release their next console at the best most opportune time? Sony has the upper hand, they have their mid-gen console, and by the time scorpio hits in 14 months (if not later) sony has plenty of time to release a next gen console that is stronger than scorpio and force MS to be in that position without being able to escape with a new console until some years later. I think it would make perfect business sense for Sony.

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nRicosS3206d ago

If this remedy guy post his opinion in n4g, im pretty sure he will get tons of disaggree and entitled as Sony fanboy lol

Silly gameAr3206d ago

That's exactly whats happening. The worst fanboys are calling it "spin". I guess they can't handle somebody speaking a little truth.

KwietStorm_BLM3206d ago

So Microsoft took 4 short years to release the 360, and they're doing it again with the Scorpio. And people are all of a sudden ok with a new generation already? This gaming thing, I tell ya.

poppinslops3206d ago

How is it a new generation when both consoles play the same games?

S2Killinit3206d ago

Correction, all PS4s play the same games. Scorpio will have all xbox VR games as exclusive (older xbox owners cant play VR) AND MS already said they will "leave it up to developers if they want to make exclusive titles for scorpio".

So no, what you say is factually incorrect sir.

Angeljuice3206d ago

Except they won't. Pay attention to what Spencer actually said. Microsoft have "no plans" to produce Scorpio only titles, "however, 3rd parties may do so if they so choose".

There WILL be Scorpio games that don't work on XB1 hardware, it's from the frigging horses mouth.

If Scorpio sells well, Microsoft will drop X1 support in an instant.

poppinslops3206d ago

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the VR stuff - probably because I don't give a rat's arse about VR... I mean, as far as I'm concerned, some $#!tty VR 'games' don't make it a next-gen console either.

As for Phil's statement, multiplat developers won't make Scorpio exclusives until it's sold enough (I'm guessing between 10 and 20mil) to justify the cost of production... that said, they're almost certainly going to want to release Pro versions as well (#noparity), so it'll be interesting to see if Sony stick to their guns.

Either way, I don't expect we'll see any of these mysterious, non-existent exclusives before the announcement of 'Project Aquarius' (or whatever they call it), at which point the Xbox One will begin to be phased out... otherwise we'll just be stuck in the same gen forever.

KwietStorm_BLM3206d ago

I said what I said because now people keep saying PS4 Pro is an upgrade, while Scorpio is a next gen system. People are funny like that. I find it hilarious in general that people are buggin out over 4.2 and 6 teraflops like thats some amazing power output.

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer9h ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole3h ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

Fishy Fingers8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer8h ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused8h ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher7h ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning773h ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

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Yoshida claims PS believes Xbox is their only competitor, truth is they don’t have one any more

Former PlayStation boss Shuhei Yoshida claims PlayStation still believes Xbox is their only true competitor, not Nintendo.

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Terry_B14h ago

True, they have pretty different audiences..and some People just have both at home or a PS and a PC that emulates more or less everything from Nintendo.

Knightofelemia12h ago

Xbox hasn't been a competitor since the XB360. Last generation and this generation Sony has been running circles around Xbox. As for Sony vs Nintendo Sony runs circles yes but I don't really see Nintendo as competition. Nintendo does their own thing and it works.

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Lightning778h ago

Details are important. Console sales yes. Overall games Xbox seems to be doing fairly well in that department.

drivxr11h ago

Console wars are over.

Eventually, everyone else will catch up to this fact.

attilayavuzer10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

I think it's all PS fans have left at this point. Console wars were always a competition for fourth place behind Nintendo, PC and mobile. If Xbox evaporates into a hybrid virtual platform, then PS will be perennially left in last place.

Christopher10h ago

Strange, I recall all those FCC documents and witness testimonies saying the exact opposite... Guess Microsoft doesn't know what it's talking about?

Destiny108011h ago

microsoft wanted to crush sony into dust and they had the money to do it, but with such weak leadership it was always going to fail

Reaper22_10h ago

Had the money? They still have the money but the industry has changed since xbox 360. Microsoft is the number one publisher in gaming. I'd hardly call that failing.

IRetrouk10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

The industry hasn't changed though, just ms, Microsoft was the no1 publisher for a month in december 2024, the actual no1 for fy2024 was tencent if game sales are all that's being counted.

Profchaos9h ago

Money doesn't mean you'll be successful large corporations have entered and failed before like Nec

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Sony PS5 Era Profits Soar Past $13 Billion, Outpacing All Prior PlayStation Generations

Sony’s PS5 era has generated over $13 billion in profits, surpassing the combined earnings of PS1–PS4, with $136 billion in sales.

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lukasmain1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Their recent Playstation revenue is also more than Xbox and Switch combined, obviously in large part due to 3rd party sales.

Christopher1d ago

I mean, if Sony is keeping third parties happy, kind of feels like a winning method.

GamingExplained1012h ago

I mean they have to, since they have 2 exclusives anyone cared about this generation, and those are now on PC. The rest is this creatively bankrupt string of remakes and remasters, taking advantage of the creativity of developers past efforts, and laying off teams creative side since all that work has been done already by previous teams.

By far the least creative generation ever.

lukasmain12m ago

@ Gaming-NEW-Troll account

"those are now on PC"

In that case. Xbox is Playstation's competition. MS have ZERO exclusives. ZERO. Nothing. Nada. Not a single exclusive.

Playstation has Astrobot. Demon's Souls, Astrobot Playroom, Gran Turismo 7, still not going to PC. They got Death Stranding 2 coming out in 3 days, NOT ON PC. Ghost of Yotei, not on PC.

That is 6 real exclusives MORE than Microsoft. Microsoft's Xbox is Playstation's competition. So lets compare.

I mean you brought it up.

Or does being "creatively bankrupt" not count when you have certain console exclusives going to PC years after they were released? In that case Returnal. Ratchet And Clank. Spiderman. Miles Morales. Silent Hill 2. And the list goes on

IRetrouk20h ago

Kinda always been that way if you look at previous gens, exclusives are important but they aint the main revenue generator.

Reaper22_19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

.While that is impressive. Microsoft made 13 billion in one quarter. Making up facts doesn't make them true.

Mmmkay19h ago

microsoft is not xbox. a bot should know that by now. you have been told this bs 1000 times on this site alone.

OlderGamer1716h ago

Yeah Microsoft but Xbox on the other hand.....

Aloymetal15h ago

Your defense of Microsoft is only highlighting Lord Phil's and the lame MS mismanagement. Since you're talking about MS as a whole, imagine having trillions in the bank and still losing to ''tiny'' Sony PS and Ninty. It doesn't get any more lame than that.

Christopher10h ago

If what Microsoft made as a whole was all that mattered, we would still have Windows Phones and Zunes. I would love to see Xbox' operating profits. Love to see it.

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thorstein17h ago

I prefer Playstation over Xbox when it comes to consoles but how does this news justify their layoffs?

Shane Kim16h ago

But the execs brother. You got to think about them. How could they otherwise buy yet another mansion and yacht?

raWfodog15h ago

People are generally paid for the work they are doing. Layoffs generally occur when there is no work for them to do (project cancelled, business slowing down, etc). I’ve been laid off from two jobs during my 40+ years of working so I know about these things. A company is not going to just keep paying people if there is no work for them to do, no matter how much profits they made.

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MIDGETonSTILTS1720h ago

And this is why the game output for ps5 has been a tad slower…

1) they needed to be… games take longer to develop, and they’d burn out their teams trying to maintain the same pace as ps3.

2) they can afford to… games cost more than ever to push boundaries, so Sony had to figure out a way to match Xbox’s clever profit strategies in order to afford to continue to innovate and take risks.

lukasmain15h ago

So much time was wasted on those Live Service shits. Glad they learned their lesson and have scaled that way back. Still haven't killed it, but I like it being in the background and not at the forefront

MIDGETonSTILTS179h ago

Honestly, I love Helldivers 2 so much that I can forgive them for over investing in GaaS. At least they got one gem from the endeavor.

And I still dream of Factions releasing one day.

I don’t hate GaaS inherently, most are just implemented poorly.

Reaper22_18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

@ s2killinit

Thats xbox which includes other services. The playstion division also includes other services as well. Its mostly playtion but not all playstation. What's up with all the double standards around here.

Chevalier18h ago

Yeah double standards like some idiots who got to talk about unrelated profits as a talking point. Wish those damn parrots could stay on topic with game related profits.

Next thing these idiots will talk about is something unrelated like Nintendo made more off the Mario movie than all of Xbox studios TV/movie endeavors combined you know?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

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Deathdeliverer17h ago

@Chevalier

Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number.

“The sales of windows professional on the other hand trounces god of war sales” 😂

Reaper22_15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is. Tencent is no.1 in profits. Buts that's ok because unlike Tencent and Microsoft, Sony isn't in it for the money, right.🤔

pwnmaster300015h ago

That’s what Xbox fanboys do. They’ve been doing this since Xbox one.

They will use all of MS, one of the biggest company in the world and play it like every dollar they earn comes from Xbox just to one up PlayStation.
Is actually pretty sad.

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Chevalier17h ago

"Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number."

Guys we're off topic here you know? Can someone bring us back on topic and tell us how much revenue Xbox studios does for movies and TV? Pretty sure we should also discuss how much Nintendo stands to make at Universal studios on Nintendo land and the rides should be a hot ticket this summer.

"Ouch! hahaha no wonder reaper wanna hide behind profits made by windows XD"

Yeah idiots with some sort of inferiority complex needs to get their win somewhere though. But wait shouldn't we get back on topic guys? Like seriously how much money do you think Fallout Season 2 will bring in?!

Reaper22_13h ago

Nah, reaper's not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out some facts. At first the narrative was Microsoft isn't going to make the money back from the ABK deal to now their profits wouldn't be as high if they didn't get the deal. This very topic is part of the reason why the deal was secured. Sony's dishonesty and reluctance to tell the truth about how much money they're making and lying about how much this deal would hurt their business. That strategy failed. They're are making a lot of money. No doubt about it and its good for the industry but don't get butthurt when Microsoft post their profits and you guys see they are also making a lot of money as well.

CrashMania13h ago

@reaper.

Microsoft don't reveal Xbox profits, sales numbers, or gamepass numbers, I wonder why that is?

You call Sony dishonest but at least they don't hide and obfuscate meaningful playstation numbers like MS do with Xbox.

IRetrouk12h ago

Reaper stop lol, only one company hides that info and it ain't sony....

Chevalier15h ago

"All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is."

Nah all you did was confirm you're an idiot.

Reaper22_13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

You seem to be fluent in idiocy. Not everyone speaks it. So next time speak slowly and clearly so we all can understand. Getting emotional doesn't really make you smarter. Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says.🫡

Chevalier9h ago

"Nah, reaper's not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out some facts"

🤡 What facts? 🤣

Please share with everyone your idiocy

What does Xbox make in revenue and profit? What are their sales? How much money does Gamepass cost them? Oh right you got ZERO numbers to post.

"Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says."

Says the idiot who can't even tell the difference between Microsoft and Xbox? Lmao. Seriously all you're showing everyone again is how much of an uninformed parroting idiot you are.

But go ahead and post your evidence! Oh right again ZERO from a ZERO. Absolutely 💯 hilarious to see you stumble like the idiot you are.

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Npugz718h ago

Only because of games prices otherwise it’s the worst generation in PlayStation history especially for games

Reaper22_18h ago

Thats true. The article did mention game and prices were a reason. Its also shows their greed is no different than Microsoft. Laying off all those people but yet bragging about profits and still tried to stop ABK deal. What the hell!

MatrixxGT17h ago

Closing studios, layoffs, leadership changes, PS plus increases, multiple game cancellations and delays, total flops like concord. Slowest release of first party games of any generation and they just shut down PS stars I guess because it was costing to much.
Yet they announce record profits…..the greed here is insane, MS and Nintendo too. All of them milking gamers and we just keep lapping it up like a blood hound for a meal.
Them tariffs are really hitting them hard I see.

Deathdeliverer17h ago

Well a part of running a business is a tight grip on that P&L sheet. In project management. It’s a known fact that the farther into a project you go, the more costly the corrections. Having something reach the definition of done, the end of the road, and it’s hated is a monumental loss of money. As games are usually made iteratively it’s like how was this not caught and course corrected several times before this point. Sony is definitely known as trusting and allows teams to make the games they want to make. They “trust the process”. The caveat to that big budget and freedom is if it bombs, especially if it’s your first game, you’re outta there. They have shareholders/stakeholders to keep happy. Where as normally a done game like Concord would give ROI as it was out in the wild. The cost of the project is recouped and turned into profit or delivered whatever value they wanted. If the game is now NOT coming out, how do they get that money back and stay profitable? By not paying wages for that team over a course of time that would have still been on payroll working on the next potential bomb, DLC for a dead game, and essentially costing more money.
It sadly isn’t greed, it’s business. They release these great profits because 1) it’s enticing for more stakeholders to invest, and 2) Despite failures they are still balancing the books and turning record setting profits.
How many live service games died at various stages of development? They are still this profitable? Imagine if the games came out and were hits to add onto the profits?

Christopher10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

So, you're saying that over $10B of this is from $10 to $20 software price increases? Zero to do with increased market reach? Massive MTX from third-party games?

Vithar18h ago

where are the "Sony is in trouble" sayers? LOL

Chevalier17h ago

They're talking about Microsoft quarterly profits like any true gamer would be doing.

Aloymetal15h ago

Oh, that's coming, it's a mandatory thing just wait for next gen and you'll see infinite articles from the shills and the green fanbase saying ''tHiS GeN WiL Be dIfFerEnT''

stonecold37h ago

over twitter xbox fanboy you tube are saying saying sony is broke cant afford warner bros.

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