Sony Computer Entertainment America have this weekend publicly apologised for the issues gamers have experienced attempting to participate in the SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation public beta.
Last year I wrote an article titled, The State of SOCOM. I discussed my
love and history for the beloved third person shooter that helped pioneer
online multiplayer on consoles. It has been six years since we last had a
new SOCOM game.
Baffles me as to why they have not done anything with this franchise. Seeing as how it was #1 on the official PlayStation poll.
With all the trash put up weekly on the App Store why has nobody done a clone of this yet. I've been playing Defiance as my go to 3rd person since 2013 but still nothing like that old school Socom/Socom 2 up all night gameplay.
the only game on that list that's like socom is wild land if you want socom type games then you will have to invest in a PC
You are looking at the view point I.e 3rd person view. Rainbow six siege is probably most like socom aside from H-Hour
RAINBOW SIX: is the closest you'll get to Socom.
Also, in response to @lookatthisi
They let go the creators, and I think socom is a game that's hard to clone even the creators had a hard time making Socom 2, Socom 3.
No way man. The devs at Trion made Defiance. I know different genres different games but this could have very easily turned into a war game rather than a kill the mutants/aliens games. Ghost recon actual gameplay is about the closest to the old Socom feel due to the squad format and team commands but it was still clunky at times. Using the wheel was cumbersome to command teammates and strategies on how you approcahed a scenario.
FFS you could control your teammates with a microphone in the ps2 days. You can't tell me that it is that hard when people throw up mods on the pc all the time that mirror the original games using random game engines. These are professionals with money/tech that most people don't have access to.
(Seth Luisi was the problem at zipper, he tried capturing ghost recon/cod fans with Socom by slowly turning the Socom series into Frankenstein GR/COD lite games)
Getting that feel, that rush being the last one alive, Rainbow Six is the closest I got to that feeling since Confrontation. And we all know that was a horrible Socom, but looking back at it, SC was a great game just had a horrible release.
I didn't play defiance, but ghost recon is and was trash.
A lot will defend Seth saying he was a puppet, but his inactions or actions didn't help. He helped ruin the franchise.
JM:
"Would you purchase a game you can’t play for a single penny? Video game retailer GameStop seems to think that it is worth trying to sell to this market."
Yeah I would definitely pay for a SOCOM remaster. Easily Sony's best franchise by a long shot, too bad they've managed to ruin it.
Back to the actual question, I own SOCOM Confrontation. The game was attacked relentlessly when it appeared. Some of those attacks were warranted. However one of the big things they used to assault the game was, "It's multiplayer only"
Where is that accusation now?
How is that MP only games suddenly get a pass?
If you stuck it out with SOCOM Confrontation you know that it took a lot of patches and 6 months. But if you kept your course you know a great secret. Confrontation eventually became a kick ass SOCOM game. Plenty of people played it the first week or the first month and dropped it. But to those that stuck around you know the game, eventually, kicked ass. I am not excusing it's state out of the box. But in the same breath I will also say it evolved into something deserving the SOCOM name.
Morganfell is right. That game was the most fun I had had in a Tps in a long time after it got fixed. It was very tactical.
Yup. Confrontation turned into a much better game over time. Just as MAG did. Too bad they're useless to own now (Which I do). I'm just hoping Sony brings back SOCOM on PS4 in a big way. I'd also like a Warhawk game. The shooter market has turned into to many twitch run, shoot, kill, die, spawn games. I like the slower pace of SOCOM, and the openness of Warhawk... actually, I just really prefer 3rd person shooters. Can't wait for Star Wars Battlefront. DICE better make it 3rd person. It can have a 1st person option like the others, but what fun is it to turn into a super character, and you can't see them?
Only $60? I'd HAPPILY pay $60 for each PS2 Socom game. Hell, make it $250 and I'd pay it! Socom 1 and 2 are worth more alone!
Socom is 12 years old and still has better online features than multi million dollar games of 2014! Lobbies, User Created Ranked Rooms, able to allow or disallow certain weapon types, no explosions, and guess what?! The community back then actually voted out the scrubs who used OP weapons. Now THAT you don't see now days. If you pulled out the M203 in Socom, your ass was voted out before you even blinked.
You bring back so many memories. You are absolutely right about the m203, that shit didn't fly back then.
Wasn't the IW80-A2 another popular "noob" gun that got lots of people kicked out for using? The M14...now that gun took some time to master, at the launch of SOCOM 2 anyways.
Glitchy garbage. Why pay $60 for a ps2 game on a new console, just play your old ps2.
The reason it did so well is there were no other ps2 multi player games to play. Look at the ps3 socom games....they didn't do so hot because people had battlefield, call of duty, Killzone,.....lots of choices.....socom suffered when the fans found new games.
If Sony didn't waste their $360 million on psnow they could've kept zipper opened and made another socom AND mag.
@DirtyPimp
I put in over 3,000 hours of SOCOM II. I'd pay more than 60 bucks for a simple HD version. Just give me East 19, Central 7, the breach maps, and Foxhunt all in glorious high definition and I'll gladly revisit the early 2000's on a nightly basis.
The servers are down.. I wouldn't buy any.. on top I own all except Socom 4... I couldn't dare taint my collection any more.
BTW: H-Hour is the new Socom... supposed to be S2 all over again... with some S1 mechanics.
For a collector to have it on the shelf i can see them buying it,it's just a penny.
Depends the situation. Usually if they have a trade in X and get Y bonus for preowned purchases, a store will let you have the excess credit if you make 1 purchase and 1 cent is cheap enough where I wouldn't have to bother returning it or eating the cost out of laziness.
Stan replied passionately, sadness creasing his face, “they’re shutting us down. Offline, man, off-fucking-line. I dedicated my life to this, and it’s just ending. This is the last battle.” - PSLS
It would have been nice if they added that to the actual article instead of the wannabe tear-jerker stuff.
@pixelsword
I know right, I was thinking the same thing. It was more of a read between the lines and pick up the pieces in the comment section..
I didn't even really try this game, I almost picked it up a couple days at my local gameswap though. Glad I didn't now, I'm gonna have to let those guys know that the games a bust now.
This is exactly why I don't want an all digital future. Once the servers go down that's it, game over. I like that I can still put my Super Nintendo games in the console and it'll work even after all these years...
I own(ed) it, I got a platinum and once I did, I went on once in a while, but never like I did before; I might put it in once or twice before the servers go down, or maybe I'll sell it to gamestop before they realize it.
The game was very under supported. I got my platinum then put some more time into it after. I stopped playing after one of those "Play with the Devs" days. Damn Devs always were on SVER and screwing over the other teams.
I caught one dev so desperate to show superiority he was altering things in the background for himself. Caught him multiple times with a bunker rocket only for him to stand there unphazed. After a bit I wasn't the only one on my platoon catching the BS at work. Since I rarely bother to go back. I do play with my cousin when he gets the urge to go play, otherwise I avoid it.
Have a few of my PSN friends looking to play before the servers get shut down. Probably will join in on that. I'm hoping MAG 2 happens for PS4 more than anything, hopefully without Zipper in the background this time. I have my digital copy on PSN for the time being though.
Dude, they ALWAYS play SVER because the balance is in SVER's favor, and people have been complaining about that since the beta, plus they do change the background. Once in the beta, I found a good spot to ding one of SVER's bunkers, and the next day, the put a tree or a bar where I was so I could not do it.
In that sense, I'm glad Zipper is gone.
Ask any player who put any decent amount of time in and they'll tell you it was promise fulfilled. It may not have reached the top sales or following ever but for the community and the people who cared for it, it delivered a hell of a lot.
That's what I've been hearing, I really hope they return to that game and make it a franchise, bring it back on PS4 with updated graphics, fix some of those bugs, as well as some of the mechanics, that shit would be awesome, they could have had a HUGE following for that game.
They already have, it's removed from PSN along with all DLC and now it's just up to the retailers to stop supplying online.
MAG will be missed, my all-time favorite shooter. They're shutting servers down in January.
so all these problems happen cuz u guys didnt have good enough servers to handle a beta well take note insomniac and guerrilla
If this was the actual game id\'d understand the complaints but its a beta TEST. Bugs, problems and glitches will obviously be there.
I like how people are reporting this, but when the Halo 3 Beta was crap it was front page news.
in defense of the article, this is not an attack on socom or sony
this is the message you read when you logon to socom: confrontation
patches come in the mornings and a big update expected around the time the qore subscribers get online with socom next week...
aside from some minor issues (i really think the beta is cutting it close, it should have been at the latest august, but in reality around spring)
i see people reporting the article but i dont see anything negative as its just a copy of the slant6 notice that you see when you log on
all and all, its turning out to be a great game...
i just hope they eventually bring back campaign mode in the future and either mirculously bring back boomer or a boomer like character like boomer
see what i mean with sony neglecting socom? socom is sony's master chief
This Beta is almost unplayable since it takes minutes to join a game. I think I will wait for it to be fixed before I get back into playing it