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Cliff Bleszinski On Xbox One Scorpio: Microsoft Are Trying To Emulate The Smartphone Model

Unlike the Xbox One, the Scorpio will not be some misguided attempt at redefining UI, or being a living room media box.

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RookieMonsterLives3254d ago

With smartphone Unsubsidized prices of $700-$800 too. Good luck selling this thing. Neo will be $450 and will be out before Scorpio. DOA

Lennoxb633254d ago (Edited 3254d ago )

If you think the Scorpio is going to be $700-$800, then you don't even have enough knowledge to speak on the topic.

BiggerBoss3253d ago

How much will it be? (Since you clearly know for sure)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA3253d ago

But the xbox one s is the same price as the xbone launched and i bet your one jumping all over it. For what 4k vid output and ao called hdr that hasnt been proven? You will find if a slim is costing the same price as the xbone released then you better believe the scorpio will more then likely be that price

Eonjay3253d ago

Hey guess what? Everyone is right/wrong until there is actual facts to draw from. Reminds me of the PSVR pricegate where every day a new leaked price was 'confirmed'... so:

Neo will be 399
Scorpio will be 599

Prove me wrong.

seanpitt233254d ago

Scorpio will be $499 for the Base 2Tb model and $599 for the 4Tb special
edition.

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Kleptic3253d ago

how so? I don't care about these devices in any sense...but his price points are hard to counter with anything factual...

I'm looking at scorpio as a win10 game store version of the surface series...MS used the surface pro devices to directly fight Apple's ipad line...and facking destroyed ipad's in like a year...as productivity tablets they're unmatched...and they're losing money as they price them so low they don't cover the marketing behind them....but they've almost pushed ipads, and android tablets out of the market entirely (but far from chromebooks, which are now android tablets automatically...and things got really weird this summer, but w/e)...

There is little doubt they'll do something similar with scorpio...They'll price it at something acceptable because it's not a 'device', its a product required for a service (win 10 and everything gaming related to it)...

Do people really think they're going to try to beat Sony by pushing out some crazy high priced console...when the only time they ever competed with Sony was when Sony pushed out a crazy high priced console? They're not that dumb...and they've got the financial backing to slide scorpio out a lot lower than many think. $700+ is laughable imo...I'd be blown away if the base version of the scorpio doesn't land at Xbox One launch prices, which i'd guess will be $50 to $100 more than 'neo'...

WiiU-Dude3253d ago

I'm not disagreeing with this, but Microsoft WILL follow Sony's pricing with NEO. It will not cost more if they have to take a loss.

Christopher3254d ago

All the people above me must have some very good crystal balls.

gangsta_red3254d ago

The Neo and Scorpio will definitely be above 100 dollars!

Goldby3253d ago

@gangsta

One Dollar Bob!

GTgamer3253d ago

They got that insider info or something because they speak like it's facts

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ShadowKnight3254d ago (Edited 3253d ago )

I truly believe the Scorpio will be $500 for the base model and 600 dollars for the premium model, which is still expensive to console gamers imo. And it won't even have *Scorpio exclusive games* you'll be able to play every Microsoft new game on your Xbox one and PC

Goldby3253d ago

If the develipers choose to. PLay anywhere isnt happening to all games

ShadowKnight3253d ago (Edited 3253d ago )

@Goldby I can almost guarantee every Microsoft game will be on Windows 10. Microsoft is trying to make more profit and it makes sense for them to put it on PC and Xbox One. If the developers wants to make more money they will put it on 360 and PC and every Windows 10 platform they can.

ONESHOTV23253d ago (Edited 3253d ago )

ShadowKnight----$500 dollars expensive ? i'm paying 2.5x that for my PC parts and i have never complained once about the price becuase i know what i'm getting when i invest my money into it same thing can be said about the xone scorpio you are investing money into good hardware so why complain if things turn out the way MS plans then Xone will be the stronger console of the three. so no i dont think 500$ is too much and if it is get a job or stop complaining about it becuase no one is going to give it to you for free unless you are a child. (EDIT) ah sorry shadow it wasnt aimed directly at you so dont take it personal i was saying in general

ShadowKnight3253d ago (Edited 3253d ago )

@OneShot huh? I'm not complaining I'm not even going to get a Scorpio because I have a PC. I was referring to most console gamers thinks that $500 is too much for a console. I remember when the PS3 was expensive at $499 and $599 and console gamers was complaining about the price until Sony made it more affordable. I invest my money on a great gpu already and just waiting for the games to come out from Microsoft.

MachuchalBrotha3163253d ago

Did you forget 4K and VR, thats worth something,no?

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C02rEthgInDim3253d ago

Watch the egg when all of a sudden the Scorpio comes out like a cell phone and it's super cheap but you need to have Live for 2 years. Like a cell phone plan. Ha ha. Would sell tons.

BiggerBoss3253d ago (Edited 3253d ago )

Live is only $60 a year. So $120 for your two year plan. Not gonna happen. MS wouldn't make much money. Cell phone plans charge over 60 a MONTH.

ABizzel13253d ago

@C02

The only way that would every remotely work is if they force you to pay $10/mo for Live rather than the $60 annual subscription. And even then it'll still likely be $299 for the console.

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XanderZane3253d ago

Sony is pretty much doing the same thing. Releasing the PS4 Neo & PSVR this year and then most likely a more powerful PS4 Slim next year. How will this fly with consumers? If Microsoft does offer an upgrade trade-in for the original XBox One, then that will make a big difference for gamers interested in the Scorpio. Microsoft will have to eat some of the cost on the Scorpio though. We know it will probably cost them $500-$650 to make and if they want to sell it for $500 or less, they will definitely lose money for the first year.

Trekster_Gamer3253d ago

Drakefan keep drinking that Sony Koolaid..

Ignorance must be bliss for you...

Mrveryodd3253d ago

You are wrong , doa for you as you were never going to buy one ..... If its the more powerfull machine it will sell .... Why? It's the more powerful machine ...... And from what I read on this site a lot of others here will buy one also .... Glad your not.

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endi1233254d ago

Cliff shut up and make your game

Jaw1love3253d ago

He seriously needs to worry more about his game and stop talking shit about the rest of the industry. I've been playing the Lawbreakers alpha for a couple days and it suuuucks. Yeah it's just an Alpha but it feels like the core gameplay is just bad. Trying to meld a hero shooter like Overwatch with fast paced arena multiplayer doesn't feel good at all

Kleptic3253d ago (Edited 3253d ago )

he wasn't 'talking shit' about anything...

Gaming communities have gotten so touchy about their precious toys it's reaching a breaking point, i think...

Consoles are expected to last like a decade...that is dumb...it's been dumb for over a decade...and continues to be dumb. All he was saying was that MS w/ scorpio is moving towards a smartphone like system in terms of it being a boat for a service...not a closed product that becomes obsolete way sooner than a buyer would prefer...

Would anyone ever upgrade a smartphone every 2 or so years if the new phone used a completely different closed OS...completely different apps...and completely different services?...no...that is the context of this...he's not saying MS is just trying to sell you stuff more often...

The service is windows 10's game store...The idea is that you'll buy scorpio for an evolving software suite that will grow and flourish...the device may get tired and old, but there will be a newer one available sooner rather than later that can still use all the games (apps) you bought before...you're stuff will all be in familiar places...the idea of 'starting over' will no longer be relevant...etc.

that's not 'talking shit'...he's just stating a very obvious description of what MS CONFIRMED to be doing last month... And the fact that MS fanatics are so pushy about backwards compatability with the Xbox One SHOWS that MS is on the right track...imagine a platform service where when you bought a game (again...an app)...and you just...had it...and it worked on all the newer platform devices you bought later on...? crazy right? You could say that would almost be like...a smartphone...We're able to use apps we purchased in 2009 on phones multiple generations newer...no selected BC, no partial emulation, no BS at all...you buy something, you have it, and it'll grow with the overall suite you've invested in...THAT is the better way, and exactly what this tired console model needs...

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sangoku_d3254d ago

I hope it's the Nokia model

_LarZen_3253d ago

Even vacum cleaners gets updated and better faster then a console. So this is a good thing Microsoft and Sony are doing. Consoles cant be like they were in the 80's with long locked hardware profiles. It worked then. Not so much today.

fanboysmackdown3253d ago

I agree LarZen. Who says we have to be locked to the old ways of thinking. Onward and upwards, always innovating.

mcstorm3253d ago

Your spot on. Technology is different now. Also having a console upgrade every 3 years is not to bad as long as they continue to be forward and backwards compatible. If you think about it ms could even offer a base model of a console with a small hdd or no hdd in them to as you could move for external hdd from one console to another and all your games on it.
As long as the xbox one gets support for at least 5 years with all games I see this working. Its also a way to push us towards cloud gaming to as the next step.

343_Guilty_Spark3253d ago (Edited 3253d ago )

The Scorpio launches 4 years after Xbox One and is essentially the birth of a new gen.I believe the Scorpio 2 probably comes out 2021.

The NEO is a weak mid gen upgrade releasing this year (yes book it) only 3 years after PS4 launched. PS5 likely comes 2020. So if you buy ALL Sony consoles over a span of 7 years you would have bought 3 devices.

Sony seems to be adopting the Iphone/Iphone S model.

Microsoft just looks to be going with a 4 year model.

I don't see it.

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objdadon3253d ago

Hmmm, let's see. Xbox one, xbox one s, Xbox scorpio. What were you saying about 3 consoles in a 7 year span? That looks like 3 consoles from Microsoft in a 5 year span. And don't hit me with "s model is just a slim." It has 4k upscaling, 4k Blu-ray player, hdr, and does 4k streaming, it's not "just a slim. "

343_Guilty_Spark3253d ago

You're deliberately being disigneous. Slim is just a slim with 4k Blu Ray, HDR support, AND a 4k scaler. The Xbox chipset stil l1.31 TF. Scorpio is a next gen console.

MachuchalBrotha3163253d ago

How is the Neo "weak" mid gen upgrade? Doesn't it have a better gpu and better cpu speed. Better for VR?

343_Guilty_Spark3253d ago

It's weak compared to Scorpio.

Goldby3250d ago

@343

Why are you comparing a mid gen upgrade with next gen?

Thats like saying the NES is weak compared to the ps4.... doesnt help your argument one bit

butchertroll3253d ago

Quote :

Actually you get a better perspective if you move out to the estimated arrival of PS5.5 which should be here around 2022. So four consoles in 10 years.

....

Hahahaha! Another pathetic excuse. Let's go to year 2023, shall we? Well, Scorpio 2 holiday 2023 release. That's a 4 Xbox consoles.

343_Guilty_Spark3252d ago (Edited 3252d ago )

Microsoft isn't doing mid gen upgrades. EACH hardware unit that is not a revision is a full upgrade.

Sony is doing mid gen upgrades so it stands to reason you'd be buying more devices if you bought a PS4, NEO, then a PS5.

Math doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Xbox One 2013
Xbox Scorpio 2017
Xbox Scorpio 2 2021

PS4 2013
Ps4 Neo 2016
PS5 2019
Ps5 Neo 2022
Ps6 2025

I have to go through thro

butchertroll3252d ago

Quote :

Xbox One 2013
Xbox Scorpio 2017
Xbox Scorpio 2 2021

PS4 2013
Ps4 Neo 2016
PS5 2019
Ps5 Neo 2022
Ps6 2025

.....

Now you added a PS6. Looks like math is not your strong suit. You deliberately left 2 Xbox consoles and put one PS console, dumbass, Xbone fan trying to spin things ( AS USUAL ) Let's see :

Xbox One 2013
Xbox Scorpio 2017
Next Xbox 2020/21
Xbox Scorpio 2 2023

PS4 2013
Ps4 Neo 2016
PS5 2019
Ps5 Neo 2022

So, i see 4 Xbox consoles and 4 PS consoles in 10 year lifespan. Go back to school.

343_Guilty_Spark3252d ago (Edited 3252d ago )

Why are you inserting "Next Xbox"? MS doesn't do mid gen upgrades.

It's...

Xbox One > Scorpio (Xbox 2) > Xbox Three or Scorpio 2.

Try harder.

butchertroll3252d ago

Quote :

Xbox One > Scorpio (Xbox 2) > Xbox Three or Scorpio 2.

Try harder.

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There you go. You counted 4 Xbox consoles. Well done. Next Xbox or Xbox Three, same shit.

343_Guilty_Spark3252d ago

You obviously can't read.

Xbox One 2013> Xbox Two (Scorpio) 2017> Xbox Three (Scorpio2/AgentSmith??????) 2021 > Xbox Four (????) 2025 = 4 xboxes over 12 years

PS4 2013> PS4 Neo 2016 > PS5 2019> PS5 Neo 2022 > PS6 2025 = 5 PSs over 12 years

Goldby3250d ago

at 343

More like

Xbox one 2013 --- Xbox One S 2016 --- Xbox Scorpio 2017 = 3 consoles in 4 years....
Playstation 4 2013 --- Neo 2016 = 2 consoles in 3 years....

talking facts alone. if you buy all MS consoles over the span of 4 years (2013-2017) that's 3 consoles. and dont try to word that as me looking dumb, you walked into that with this simple comment you made

"So if you buy ALL Sony consoles over a span of 7 years you would have bought 3 devices."

At the end of the day, in the 3 years of this generation, Sony only has one console on the market and MS has 2. and by next year, it will be 2 consoles for Sony, and 3 for MS

butchertroll3252d ago

Hahahah! Xbone fan can't be more dumber.

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Nintendo Switch 2 Pro Controller Review

A handful of small redesigns and a pair of back buttons make Nintendo’s Pro Controller for Switch 2 a worthy upgrade.

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Neonridr1d 2h ago

I love this controller. Feels so nice in the hand. Plus the battery lasts for days, it's crazy.

peppeaccardo20h ago

$100 ?????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ???????????????

1nsomniac19h ago

Yea the pricing for Nintendo peripherals is a bigger joke than the game prices. What the hell were they thinking!

peppeaccardo10h ago

i mean for a piece of slightly redesigned plastic with the same take of the last few years this has written GREED all over it ! Shame on Nintendo.

OMNlPOTENT6h ago

It's $85. The standard Dualsense is $75. The Dualsense Edge (Playstation Pro controller) is $200. The Xbox Elite (Xbox Pro controller) is also $200. How exactly is $85 so drastically insane compared to those prices?

Neonridr5h ago

the battery lasts like 10 times as long as a dualsense though.

Stevonidas47m ago

Not true; more like 20.

You may commence with your butthurt, ponies.

Vits20h ago

The thing is, over the past decade, third-party controllers have really stepped up. You can often get better quality, more durability, and stronger performance for half the price of first-party options. Meanwhile, controllers from Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft have become increasingly mediocre, expensive, fragile, and not particularly impressive across the board. What makes this especially noticeable with Nintendo is that they’re surprisingly open to third-party hardware. That openness ends up highlighting just how much better the alternatives are.

Vits15h ago

Pretty much most things by half a dozen of chinese manufactures. Like, 8bitdo, Gamesir, Machenike, Gulikit, Flydigi, Manba, EasySMX, etc.

The exception would be really low tier stuff by those companies... those wouldn't be better, they would be about the same quality. But more durable.

Themba7617h ago

Best controller I’ve ever used I even like more than my dual sense edge

UltimateOwnage9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Having used Dual Sense, Pro Controller 1, and 8BitDo Ultimate extensively, I am pretty much in love with Pro Controller 2. The easy reassignment on the grip buttons is such a big plus, but the soft edge joysticks are the best feeling sticks of any controller I’ve ever used. It’s really an awesome controller. The HD Rumble 2 also finally has some thud and the headphone jack is great with a pair of good phones. It’s worth the slight price increase IMO.

Profchaos4h ago

The pro controller 2 for me has the best weight and size it fits the hand perfect like the duelshock 4 did imo

I actually dislike the duelsense controller because of its size but the features are amazing on it.

Still as for the pro 2 no analog triggers is surprisingly something I dont actually miss

PRIMORDUS15h ago

I have the original pro controller and TBH, I don't use it as much. I'm mostly using the Switch in handheld mode with the Hori Split Pad Compact Controller. I also never use the back buttons to program anything so I will not be buying this one here, so that will be $85.00 in my pocket 😂

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Techland Wants to Switch to a 3-4 Year Cycle Starting with Dying Light: The Beast

Techland wants to switch to a shorter development cycle of three to four year at the most for its games, starting with Dying Light: The Beast.

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Goodguy012d ago

Very good dev length for a AAA/AA game I'd say. Companies need to set an aim for this range. 1-2 is too little, I believe 3-4 is perfect. Any more is too much. Games don't need to be these gigantic games full of a crazy amount of content. Just make a good game.

Skate-AK1d 7h ago

Lol. Had no idea who that was, but I will admit they do look quite similar.

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Hideo Kojima calls Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 “ideal” for one key reason

Legendary gaming auteur Hideo Kojima heaped praise on Clair Obscur: Expedition 33, calling it “ideal” for one significant reason.

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gigoran81d 15h ago

Greatness knows greatness. Simple as that. Expedition 33 is a masterpiece, built with a smaller team and with a smaller budget, blowing ubisoft out of the water. It doesn't matter how many devs you have and how much money you throw at it, great studios like Sandfall Interactive will always overcome you.

mastershredder23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Ideal are you opinions being vacant from any discussion that is not about your own cringy universe Hideo.

The master of Vanity Tech Demos is here to tell us what a good game is. ooooh kay. It's pretty dang obvious without your 2 cents desperately needing relevance. This is just like his GTA grovel a while back. Yuck.

gold_drake22h ago

quite honestly, i havent been able to stop thinking about it ha.

i keep playing it

__y2jb20h ago

He’s massively overrated and writes terrible dialogue.

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