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Capcom has censored Cammy´s nipples in the latest “Street Fighter V” patch? - What the hell Capcom

I (Robin Ek, TGG) honestly don´t know if I should laugh or cry when it comes to Capcom and "Street Fighter V", because there seems to be no end to Capcom´s censorship madness. As it appears as if Capcom has censored Cammy´s breast nipples in the latest patch of SFV. So this is my (Robin Ek, TGG) take on the matter.

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Relientk773250d ago

Cool so maybe she had her nipples chopped off or something

I hate this new generation, that gets offended on every little thing, it's so stupid. Can I say stupid or is that too offensive too?

TGG_overlord3250d ago

Everything seems to be "offensive" nowadays, so there is a risk of that...

G20WLY3249d ago (Edited 3249d ago )

Maybe she's just warmer now after all that fighting? lol

Worlds first game with heat-sensitive nipple physics confirmed!! Street Fighter's so REAL! /S

Would be funny if that were true - they try to make it less 'hot' by raising the temperature haha ;^D

UltimateMaster3249d ago

Cammy just got surgery done by Capcom to remove the nipples to make them look fake.

Devilsknight3248d ago

Everybody seems to be offended indeed. Just look at this outcry for digital nipples.
*Rages over polygon boobs* - "Why are people offended so easy?!?!".

Sad, pathetic and ironical, all in one.

The human body has nipples indeed, therefor we can enjoy them IRL. Wouldnt want Zangiefs balls to be visable through the fabric either.

Kingthrash3603248d ago

Dam tho.....not the nips Capcom .
First it was the bounce, now it's like....."we need to make it even less realistic ...enter phase 2 of breast degradation!!
whats phase 3 you ask???? Next, They wont cast a shadow!

TheCommentator3248d ago

Cammy can't be anatomically correct, but my daughter can watch her favorite recording artists perform onstage in lingerie at the music awards or see a "wardrobe malfunction" during the Super Bowl... yeah, that makes sense. Thanks, SJW's, for tackling the important issues first like nipples under clothing in video games instead of addressing the countless ways famous women can exploit their own sexuality to get ahead in life just by dressing like whores. My children are way more exposed to real world influences in pop culture than they are to video game nipples.

Bimkoblerutso3248d ago

Yeah, this is going to seem like a really ridiculous statement....but people paid for those nipples. It should be goddamn illegal to manipulate content like this when people have already ****ing paid for it.

SJW culture is out of control.

rainslacker3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

I admire your tenacity to go through all that effort to look for nipples.:)

More seriously, Capcom is just weird with these things. I mean, I can see why some of the localization houses for some games seem to think they have to censor localized versions(although they don't really have to), but the stuff being censored from SFV is so marginal that it hardly seems worthwhile. I mean, the buttslap was one thing, but were people complaining about the nipples? It's not like they were gratuitous, and they wouldn't be out of the ordinary. To some people think that people shouldn't have nipples?

@G20

Sad I know this, but when one is physically active, their blood is pumping more, and that will cause one's nipples to become more....prominent. Happens for males and females, it's not a gender thing.

Life lesson for the day I suppose.

That being said, I expect Team Ninja to upstage Capcom in their own nipple physics going forward.

@TheCommentator

While I"m sure you're aware, your kids are probably still exposed to worse things at school. Which is another issue which stems more from the things you speak about as people try to emulate these idols they look up to. To date, I don't really know many people that try to emulate any character from a video game....outside of comic, game, or anime conventions....maybe some in the real world, but certainly not a common thing.

Kind of makes one wonder where the objective evidence is that these bad things in video games are having an effect on society. Heck, even some spurious anecdotal evidence would be very hard to come by.

@TGG

I mentioned in a comment the other day taking up arms. but instead, consider researching an article on just how much of the idol emulation we see in society from video games to see if kids are really looking up to these characters, and where the basis is that it's harmful to the perception of women by others, and somehow damaging to them since it's not being emulated, and I'd imagine one would be hard pressed to find others placing expectations on others based on a representation from a video game.

Tech53248d ago

In the pc version they give it back and little extra too.

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TwoForce3249d ago

That's so goddamn annoying !

TGG_overlord3249d ago

I pointed that out to Capcom via Twitter ;)

Gaming_Cousin3249d ago

Let's take out a natural body part but leave in gun shots exploding heads and terrorists bombing building in games. People are f***ing retarded

Erik73573248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

Don't worry , they added nips to the male characters for you so that your nipple gaming content will still be satisfied.

KentBenMei3249d ago

Accidentally disagreed, I completely agree.

Muzikguy3249d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

Stupid is offensive for sure. I usually use terms like idiot, dumbass, pansy and moron because those are way less offensive 😜️

Edit: This oversensitive bunch we have these days need to grow up (edit). All this offensive crap is making us go backwards as a society if you ask me

rainslacker3248d ago

Consider these are the children born from the generation of those who preached free love and less control.

Muzikguy3248d ago

Valid point you make there

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Nodoze3249d ago

I am offended at your offense of offensive material offending people. BAN BAN.. jk

I weep for the future of this country when everything is offensive to everyone. Grow a freaking backbone, and go elsewhere if you don't like. Always one to ruin things for everyone.

skwidd3248d ago

Can I join and be offended by people being offended by nipples? What's wrong with covered nipples?? Its part of the human body. Oh right.. we're in denial. There are no nipples.. are they gonna make her flat chested in street fighter v?

sampson31213248d ago

flip that and the same can be said about you. oh wait! you never looked at it that way before have you?

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frostypants3248d ago

In previous generations they wouldn't have had them in the game to begin with, so it's hard to say whether people would have been offended or not.

rainslacker3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

Well, since cammy's first appearance, there was the butt crack riding leotard she wears, and no one was offended by that as I recall until this generation. I have a wall scroll of Chun-Li that I've had since the SNES days, and her nipples are clearly noticeable...along with a rather provocative "defeat" pose, and it was a pretty popular picture of her back in the day, and no one complained.

The lack of nipple definition was likely more due to limitations in hardware than anything else....although I don't recall if the PS3/360 versions had that or not. Beyond that...who was actually complaining about it this time that Capcom felt the need to remove it? Certainly didn't make any news that I'm aware of.

I think the reason it wasn't offensive in prior generations is more due to the fact that we didn't have an oversensitive group of control freaks invading the industry and community with their own ideals, and we were just allowed to enjoy what we wanted to without outside interference. Jack Thompson didn't get anywhere near the kind of respect the offended people are now, despite their actions and arguments being the same damn thing....just with a different reason to be triggered. Tomb Raider is the only game I can think of before around the middle of last gen that received any kind of negative feedback due to being overly sexual. Maybe Fear Effect, but that was kind of minimal since the game never really hit the mainstream.

Kombatologist3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

I'm all against censorship, but this begs the question: If they had censored Zangief's bulge, would it receive the same outcry?

Erik73573248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

No female nipples in the game anymore?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!

Errorist763248d ago

Haven't nipples been offensive in the US for decades...weapons aren't of course.

NecoTehSergal3248d ago

I'm offended by your opinion! As such I'll do what everyone usually does to me, and report you as Trolling because my feels are more important than facts! If I tell the mods that I'm super triggered they might ban you!!1!1!

I served in Vietnam - and had my nipples chopped off, your comment gave me a Vietnam Flashback Face and made me trigger myself so hard that I wet myself. Reported for trolling.

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Pongwater3250d ago

So stupid, but I blame the people who complained more than I blame capcom, though I'd prefer they didn't give in to the puritans. The human body has nipples. Deal with it.

TGG_overlord3249d ago

"The human body has nipples. Deal with it." That´s the best comment that I´ve read so far today.

gamer78043249d ago

i blame both really, vocal minority complaining, then the company yielding artistic control.

Muzikguy3249d ago (Edited 3249d ago )

"Deal with it" needs to make a comeback because the sensitivity of today is disgusting

Deadpooled3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

Yep the censoring idiots can't counter it, works in so many ways. It's definitely making a comeback from what I've seen in the UK on social media these past few weeks (mainly in response to the Brexit 'petitions' and outcry from people who have no idea what 'democracy' is), it's a great counter to end an argument against those using political correctness in their arguments e.g. against those trying to justify womens 3 set vs mens 5 set tennis 'equal pay'.

Muzikguy3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

@deadpooled

I can definitely see why that would be considering the whole Brexit scenario. Nice to see that happening over there. Thanks for sharing 😊️ I hope one day there's some form of radical something that happens in the US. Something needs to happen to turn it from this whiny "you can't disagree with me or tell me I'm wrong because my momma says I'm the best, and rules don't apply to me" land back into something the world would be proud of

Erik73573248d ago

No female nipples in the game anymore?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!

dotwithshoes3248d ago

The human body does indeed have nipples, This isn't talking about the human body, it's talking about a digital representation of a character. My question is this, Does her not having nipples adversely affect your game play? If it does, you're the one with the problem, not Capcom.

rainslacker3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

Why isn't your question,

"Why is someone else so offended by her having nipples that them complaining compelled Capcom to remove them? What possible effect could her having prominent nipples actually have on those that are offended by it, and what could be so vastly devastating that it would compel those people to complain about it enough to get this change?"

Her nipples don't affect anyone's game play, and outside of a few out there titillated by it, weren't doing anything either way to my knowledge. It was never a discussion of if it was good or bad in the game from those playing it, because it was a non-issue.

But to someone, they must have been offended by it, and that seems like THEIR PROBLEM, WHICH THEY MADE INTO OUR PROBLEM, because we don't think developers or publishers should change their product to try and please every damn person on the planet because a select few feel they are so special that their beliefs are more important than the content creators or the players themselves.

So, while you may see it as us complaining that the nipples were removed, we're actually complaining that they were removed for the wrong reasons. No one who played the game cared either way that I've ever seen, but most of us do care that things like this don't stop at digital nipples or butt slaps, because we've already seen as time has passed, that the slippery slope has already been traversed and we're headed into the bottomless valley where it won't ever stop.

You see, we're not the one's asking developers to change their products. Others are. And those others are the ones we have problems with, because it means that the devs and pubs have to deal with these problems instead of just making the game the way they want to.

Our problem is, at times when we do demand change for other things we consider more important than some digital nipples....say some consumer unfriendly corporate policy or not being gouged with limited content games at high prices....they don't listen. But now, these people that aren't even buying the games are complaining, and their complaints are being heard, and worse, action is actually being taken. So, you see where the problems lie now?

We have problems, they don't care. Others have problems which have no real effect on said person...publisher cares. We, the gamers and customers get a press release about how the company is all about providing the best experience and things we complain about don't change.. These complainers complain, they sometimes get a press release, but often get actual remedied results to their complaints in an extremely timely fashion.

So....who has the problem?

rainslacker3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

Sadly, the publisher is just trying to avoid having to deal with this stuff publicly.

Which begs the question, what actual gains or change are the complainers actually making? Developers and publishers, for the most part, aren't doing this because it's what they feel is right, or because they want to be inclusive. They're doing it because the negative reception it brings is something they'd rather avoid.

The complainers are getting change through indoctrination, not changing any actual viewpoints on what is considered appropriate, and that is a shallow victory that won't live past the point they move onto their next target, or grow up and realize the world doesn't revolve around them, or better yet, they realize their time can be better spent on issues which actually could affect and change real people's lives.

When the complainers go away, so will all this self censorship. When looked at from this light, it should show that it's a shallow victory indeed. It's like they're winning battles, but not moving the front forward whatsoever. But damn if they haven't set feminism back a couple decades. How can one claim to be a feminist, while also claiming to be a victim who can't help themselves without the the support of others?

Now if we can just get the publishers to care what their actual customers complain about, and not want to deal with that fallout, things might get better....all around...not in relation to censorship...although that would come to.

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Littil_Devil3249d ago

Does this mean that Capcom will censor Chun Li´s nipples too?

TGG_overlord3249d ago

Don´t give them any ideas now...

Deadpooled3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

or R Mika's or Lauras? They're pandering to the lowest denominator who don't even play these games the SJW feminazis who are always looking for a way to spread their BS.

Erik73573248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

Na, they will just add nips to the male characters for you to look at as well.

I also heard they were going to have camel toe dlc coming out in August.

TGG_overlord3249d ago

Thus the #crapcom hashtag on Twitter ;)

TGG_overlord3249d ago

***UPDATE 1***

I´m not 100% sure about laws and such, but I think John Smith is on to something here:

"I'm not entirely sure here, but isn't it against the law to downgrade a product without the consent /approval of the owner/user. if you have brought a product, then the company has no right to alter the product in a way that actually degrades or lowers it value. I suggest you contact Capcom and tell them you are not satisfied with the changes the have made to your purchased product without permission alteration and would like them to provide a full refund for the trouble it has caused you".

Silly gameAr3249d ago

That seems a little excessive.

TGG_overlord3249d ago

To quote Mr. GamesGoodMeGood:
"Guess what folks? Feminists and SJWs are perfectly fine with Urien in nothing but a thong. Because you know, there's no problems with sexualizing male characters. Double standards and hypocrisy ahoy. As for Capcom, they are beyond saving now. Absolute pieces of shit."

Lordani663249d ago

@TGG I always say that. Not that I have problems with it but look how male characters are potrayed in games like Gears of War - muscled up brutes with tiny tiny brains, that don't want to do anything else but to kill,massacre and destroy, like primals. Are SJWs butthurt over that? Nope... As I said - not that I am, I'm just showing the double standards here.

yomfweeee3248d ago

No, it isn't against the law for a company to change their game. If you don't want the change, stop the download. But then you can't play online.

GameCrateEd3248d ago

""I'm not entirely sure here, but isn't it against the law to downgrade a product without the consent /approval of the owner/user."

If this were actually against the law there are hundreds of bad patches, unpopular nerfs, and screwed-up game updates in line before this particular issue.

rainslacker3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

It's not against the law because technically, the product that the consumer has isn't their property. Only the license belongs to the purchaser. Changes to a product are very common in gaming. Removal of features isn't unheard of. This isn't really even a downgrade selling a significantly different product, but rather an aesthetic change.

Now if the company made all the characters look the same, and removed significant features, there could be cause for such a claim, but as it stands, it wouldn't really be considered a downgrade, because Capcom can probably reason it out that the whole character model or character textures were changed and improved and likely show how appreciable gains were actually made.

In any case, that particular law would also apply to upgrades, because whether something is improved is wholly subjective. Take many Windows SP releases for instance. Most of the time they're improvements, but there are still people out there who think they aren't. Same here. Some people are going to consider it an improvement, and others are going to consider it a downgrade or removal.

In the end though, should it ever become an issue for a court to decide, it wouldn't likely get very far, because the user has to agree to the "upgrade", and the TOS stipulate what can be done with any version that happens to exist. The user agreed to the upgrade. They have the right to refuse it....which will have other consequences, but it's still within their right. The original product hasn't been removed from the user without their consent.

hazelamy3248d ago

if you think the value in the game comes from a few pixels that represent a nipple, that says a lot about you.

funny how you demand changes to games when they have gay or trans content, but alter a few pixels to make some nipples less prominent and it's devaluing the game?

honestly, this is one of the most pathetic things i've ever seen from your joke of a site.

can you show me anywhere that somebody demanded the removal of Cammy's nipples?

because i can show plenty of examples of demands for removal of gay/trans content.

but that kind of censorship is okay right?
and you're not a total hypocrite?

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Your Indie Game Just Sold 2 Million Copies… So Why Are You Still Broke?

Thomas Mahler: "Since it's quite bananas that a lot of players still do not understand the economy behind game development, I thought it'd be best to just break down a real example of a really successful first-time developer who managed to make a deal with a publisher. "

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Terry_B22h ago

I wouldnt call a game that costs 10 million to make and had over 30 people from different companies working on it an indie game.

Seriously, no.

StoneTitan17m ago

its an independent studio that is not owned by any big studio or publisher. what else would you call them?

Santouryuu3h ago

I don't get it..
He starts with 10M cost for the game excluding marketing and continues to detract "other"costs...
Why are the costs of storefront, engine etc not included in the 10M?

thorstein1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

CEO makes CEO noises.

If he takes a 1 million dollar bonus every year the game is being made and the game took 5 years to be made, the "cost" isn't 10 million, it should be 5 million.

It's just more magical accounting. This industry is replete with it.

staticall1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

@Santouryuu
Yeah, it's weird. On top of that, he subtracts engine, tax from HIS own money, but this should be put on the publisher (or at least be split, 50%/50% or how they agree), because they're benefitting from the sales as well. On top of that, he makes it look like he didn't get a cent, but he (and his team) was paid the salary the whole way through, with bonuses and stuff. Probably rent for the office was taken care of as well and licenses/devices too.

And also, he acts like his games' average price was $10 (by the way, if the game cost $10 million, who decided to sell it for $20?! Sounds idiotic), which is ridiculous, popular indie games don't do 50% discount right after release and the most of the sales are done a few months after release (according to the publishers). As an example, look at Rimworld, Dwarf Fortress, Factorio, Kenshi, they either didn't have 50% discount yet or had it years after the release.

Also, he acts like the game was only sold on Steam, but that's false. And Microsoft, i'm more than sure, didn't take 30% from them (because it's a game published by them on their platform).

The only thing this tells me is that someone is trying to manipulate us and you shouldn't work with Microsoft if you want to remain sane.

StoneTitan21m ago(Edited 15m ago)

because thats what he has to HAVE RIGHT NOW to develop the next game (engine, tax andso on)

Yes xbox of course did not have the 30% tax but then again he is just making a hypothetical, I am pretty sure their game did not sell exactely 20millions ^^

StoneTitan28m ago(Edited 22m ago)

Its not the cost of storefront. Your game made 20million but from those 20million the store takes 30%. Steam took 30% from the 20million you made. got it?
If you make 20million in sales Steam takes 6 million.
So you only get 14millions. Then you have to pay back what you owe the publisher, so 10millions in devcost and 2million in marketing.
So you are left with 2millions.
From the 2millions of pure profit 70% goes to the publisher and 30% to the developer (depending on your contract)
So you are left with 600k to pay for your next game, for now.
lots of numbers but very clearly put

leahcim49m ago

please bring Ori to Playstation!!!!

T_T

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Hopefully they do a new The Evil Within or something similar to that.

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Looking forward to 007 and Project Fantasy!

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Hopefully it's good..I still miss E3.

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I'm also excited to see Project Fantasy.

Garethvk14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

It may be interesting.
I am curious about their decision to do their own show.