Funny To A Point – The Call Of Duty Hate Has Gotten Embarrassing, Guys

Gameinformer - This year's reveal of Infinite Warfare achieved parody levels of hate, which I love, because it makes my job that much easier.

[fenome]

I don't hate on it, I just don't buy it. To each their own.

[nX]

I do both for a passion. There's nothing like blaming Activision for what they've done during the last 10 years. Though EA (annual full priced "updates") and Ubisoft (empty promises) deserve just as much hate these days.

[Aeery]

To hate something that is "optional" in your life is stupid. I know human, so it's really stupid.

[Pongwater]

"COD is the greatest gaming franchise out there"

Vomit

If that was ever true beyond the level of opinion, it hasn't been true for a long time.

All I know is, the IW E3 gameplay has me wanting to play a CoD campaign for the first time since World at War. Without knowing what the game it was, I wanted to play it. When the title was revealed I laughed, but I'm not going to hate on it now just because I know it's CoD. There will be plenty of time to hate on it later if that's what I honestly think it deserves.

The people who hate CoD have their reasons. If you (the writer) find it embarrassing that they hate it, consider that they may very well find it embarrassing that you like it. Then consider whether either side should care about the other. Then go play a game and relax.

[Kombatologist]

As Elie Wiesel once said,

"We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest."

I feel like this can be applied to consumers as well. That doesn't mean gamers should act like self-entitled twats or crap on someone's parade, but we ultimately shape the industry with our actions. It's okay to protest your discontent for something, but try to do it in a constructive manner. If you're just doing it to crap on someone's parade, then you have some growing up to do.

[WiiU-Dude]

To each their own, such a beautiful statement, yet few honor. I love COD. Always have and likely always will. I have NEVER shied away from that no matter how much ridicule.
Here's the thing. COD does what COD does! And it does it perfectly. Haters seem to want it to reinvent the wheel, but that's ridiculous. How I see it, if you want variety...PLAY A DIFFERENT FPS!! Play Bioshock, play Halo, play Plants vs Zombies...any other FPS there's your 'innovation' your new experience!! COD is going to do what it does, and what it does they have down to a science! I don't want them to mess with it too much. I play and own all those other FPSs and many more for a 'different' experience!!
I thought the thing Activision and Sony did at E3 was freaking brilliant. It showed so starkly just how shallow, self-indulgent and pretentious COD haters are. The thing is they don't care. None will have learned anything. They returned to their hate spewing almost instantly - likely cause they were too thick headed to realize they had just been had.
Anyway, it comes back to 'to each their own'. Why do we have to hate? I have witnessed frequently those who make the mistake of saying they like COD, or Madden or some other game or genre (sports usually) that 'REAL' gamers usually dump on. We all like what we like. We shouldn't have to hide in shame if we like Nickelback or smooth jazz or COD. Who cares?? To each their own. Think about it, it would be a really boring world if everyone liked the same thing.

[pompombrum]

If the hate generated actually has a meaningful impact on the overall product of both this and future versions of the series, I don't see how it's a bad thing. Amongst the hating COD for the sake of hating COD though, is the very real hate generated by people angry at Activision for locking the COD 4 remaster behind their new game not to mention only 10 mp maps being remastered.

[starchild]

I haven't played Call of Duty for years, but Infinite Warfare actually looks interesting. If they had gone with another modern setting I probably would have continued to ignore it.

Either way though I wouldn't go on forums to bash the game. I buy what looks interesting to me and don't pay much attention to things that don't interest me.

[Andrealsant]

Did you just say "only 10"!? xD xD

[DialgaMarine]

The hate is really pathetic. People are literally basing their opinions off the original trailer. It's a total bandwagon effect. Im buying both games, but I unfortunately lost a bit of interest in BF1 after they only showed MP gameplay that looked a bit meh.

[morganfell]

The most laughable and ridiculous form of the COD hate came from the people wowed by the footage at the Sony conference only to turn on it once they realized it was COD. Personally, I am getting it day one.

[pompombrum]

For me at least, I was wowed by it because they cleverly put it right after their VR stuff, I thought what I was watching was a VR game. If they had announced it was PSVR compatible, I'd pick it up day one regardless of it being COD or not but it was slightly misleading.

[Gaming4Life1981]

Agreed Morganfell that was the most laughable and most ridiculous at the Sony conference. Cod has such a large fanbase that the people hating it won't matter to how much this game will sale so no lose for activision.

[RememberThe357]

@aiBreeze - I'm with you, I was wowed because I thought it was a vr game and I was disappointed that it wasn't. Ill rent it for the campaign, my gripe with COD is on the multiplayer side of things anyway.

[rainslacker]

Have to admit, for the first time in my life, I was actually impressed with something COD. I actually wanted to play the game when watching the trailer at E3. Thought it was some PSVR game given it came right after the PSVR trailers with no segway, and thought it might be part of Eve:Valkyrie.

Might change my mind going forward as more is shown, but what they showed was pretty cool.

I've played COD at friends houses on my gaming nights, and have partaken in a few of the campaigns here or there, but mostly, the series has never interested me. I don't hate on it, and really couldn't say what most people hate about it outside the generalities that people apply to it on forums, but it's doing something right if it keeps selling the way it does.

The E3 trailer was pretty clever on Activisions part. I think it shut a lot of people up who just like to hate for no reason, although I'm sure some people do have actual gripes with the series which are within reason.

[BlacKJesu5]

What was meh about it exactly?

[DeadlyOreo]

BF1 looks very dull.

[WellyUK]

people expecting BF to break the mold... Not going to happen, it's just going to be a BF game with a skin on, anyone expecting something new and innovative is going to be hugely disappointed by BF1.

[morganfell]

It feels like BF4. Not a bad thing but I already have 4. And people are praising EA the same forgetful way they are praising Ubi for Watchdogs 2. Do people really have such a short memory? Does something shiny suddenly make people brain dead?

Look at the last 3 related Dice and/or EA launches. BF4 was disastrous. They promised to fix the game before further releasing paid DLC and then the following week announced paid DLC. The server/rubberband issue persisted for over 6 months. Then came Hardline...ha ha nothing further need be said. A money grab joke of a game. Then Battlefront, a game they admit was chopped to make the movie release date. Instead of providing the part of the game they chopped to the public free at a later date they announce a date for BF2. Now comes Battlefield 1 and people lose all sort of memory.

[DialgaMarine]

It literally looks like they re-skinned BF4. They took World War 1, and Michael Bay-ified the living hell out of it. I'm sure the SP will still be good enough, but that MP just looked so ridiculous. Fun, but not the reinvention of the FPS wheel I was hoping for. Still buying, but thats my opinion thus far. I still could very easily be wrong.

[Speak_da_Truth]

Yeah haing dynamic weather, destructable environment and most importantly boots on the ground is a bit meh but cod doing things their fans don't want is acceptable. They know no one will infinite warfare if the sold the remastered edition separately.

[Ravenor]

"boots on the ground"

If the idea of pantomiming soldiers is oh so important to you, go join a reserve or the National Guard. The idea that Call of Duty can't move on from Uniformed soldiers from either a modern era or any point in history is absolutely laughable. The campaign looks interesting and a departure from the standard Mission A leads to Mission B and I'm willing to give that a shot and see how it pans out, I'm willing to check out the dog fighting and see how that pans out. Just like Battlefield 1 and TItanfall 2 I'm willing to take a look and see if it sticks for me.

"Boots on the ground" ....Allah save me this is ridiculous.

[RememberThe357]

@Ravenor - Well look at you all wise and accepting. We bow to your intellect and clear humility.

/s

[Boughnuts]

Don't knock it till ya tried it is what I always say.

[nX]

What if you "tried" the last 5 games and they were all disappointing? Sure this one could be THE GAME OF ALL GAMES but the realist in me prefers to side with the haters.

[Ravenor]

Then move on, it makes you look incredibly sad and boring if your days are filled with finding Call of Duty related stuff and having a fit. I've never in my life bought 5 different iterations of something and then turned around and said "Guys, I hated everything that came before this...so let me give my input on this thing I dont like"

Not all games are for you.

[Gitgud]

They were all disappointing to you. Jeez, I played some the COD games in the past, and I don't see what's missing for you lot too hate it. Games change through out the years, and I personally like the way the game is going now.

[OB1Biker]

Hating attitudes for a game is embarrassing. Any game, and I wont even mention them to avoid the discomfort of having the usual parasite like people feeding on their own hates.
Point is hating is a waste of time. If you dont like, move on to what you like and leave gamers who have different tastes enjoy and share their passion
And no, your ranting here wont change anything and make the publishers do what you like. All it does is bugging fellow gamers. Go to official forums for that (Im talking about hate here, not just relevant, constructive criticism with no spamming)
Its come to the point that gamers cant freely talk about a game they enjoy because haters will come in

[nX]

What a naive point of view, you do realize the influence Call Of Duty and other big franchises have on this industry...? If people wouldn't complain about annual copycat releases, shady microtransactions or ridiculously overpriced mappacks you can bet that every developer will turn this once creative industry into pure business.

[noksucow73]

Or instead of complaining they could just not buy it.

[Ravenor]

Ooooo boy, you talk about Naivete and then say "once creative industry into pure business." It has always been business among larger platform holders and publishers. You don't think the success of Mario and Sonic is why we had a glut of "Mascot" side scrollers in the 16 bit days? Or the success of Final Fantasy is why we had a glut of JRPG on the SNES and Playstation? Business is business and just like movies, music and art in general at the upper echelon of things gaming is still business.

[ShaunCameron]

Have you been living under a rock all this time? The video game industry has always been a business. And those "creative, original, unique, new, etc." IP's you seem to love raving about never sold that well at any point in time, because even back then most gamers only cared about whatever was popular.

[RememberThe357]

CD Project sure did their DLC like EA/Acti/Ubi/Capcom/etc does, oh wait.

Point is, people should complain about things they don't like, telling them not to buy it is redundant and pointless (if they don't like it, odds are they didn't buy it). Money may be the blood of industry but product is the heart. There are companies that listen to their fans and find it in their best interest to supply those people what their asking for.

[Boobgrabber]

People complained that COD never changes, and when it did they complained that it was too different. People complained because of the futuristic setting, and the same people are now praising Titanfall 2 which also has a futuristic setting as been better. We will however see what happens when it actually goes on sale. Will people buy it?

[BlacKJesu5]

Titanfall started in that world...cod is there cause they ran outta ideas

[Ravenor]

Or they wanted to tell stories outside of the limits of our own time and place? Do you REALLY think Call of Duty was a creative thing from the jump?

[Boobgrabber]

You are correct it started in a world War 2 setting, and then went to a present style. Now it's set in the future. So what you are saying is that it should have stayed as a WWII game? What if they removed the CoD name, and just called it infinite warfare. Would that make people not hate it because of not having the CoD tag. So did the former makers of modern warfare ran out of ideas also and that's why they decided to go futuristic?

[Movefasta1993]

Most of fanboys are going to rush to battlefield,only to find that it requires a little skill,and run back to cod.

[BlacKJesu5]

Yea makes it an easy level up launch week lol..same thing with division and pvp until they nerfed everything to make it noob friendly and appeal to those who can't do math

[Kabaneri]

Battlefield takes ALOT more skill than COD. After getting used to BF4, COD feels like a toy now.

[Movefasta1993]

no shit,and that's why all them fanboys jumping on the bandwagon will go back to play infinite warfare.

[DeadlyOreo]

BF is so much slower paced. Whether you like it or not Cod games require you to think faster, and requires more skill.

[DeadlyOreo]

Lol BF requires skill? Tell that to the half a team sitting in a bush with a sniper rifle.

[Movefasta1993]

Where did you get them stats from?Do not act like people do not camp in cod games.

[WellyUK]

Battlefields skill gap has deteriorated into vehicle whores and none vehicle whores. It has a slightly bigger skill gap but BF has never really been competitive so skill doesn't really matter when you can sit in a tank miles away and 1 shot things...

[MetroidFREAK21]

I'm just waiting to see the MP reveal before I make a decision on if I should buy it or not... I have bought every Call of Duty game since 2008 and this out of every one so far has perplexed me with the space setting and I honestly don't like it... It's not looking too good for the game though due to Battlefield 1 and Titanfall 2

[PixelGateUk]

Gameinformer is owned by Gamestop. Just remember that

[81BX]

Yup! I don't hate on cod every year but this years version looks like a pile of poop to me. A lot of fans asked for the series to return to a modern setting and we got space age fighters instead. I never really expect the cod series to listen to its fans because they have shown they really dont but what gets me is the only way to get the classic remaster is by buying the newest installment.....

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Who cares I get their magazines in the mail monthly and they always have cool interviews in their spotlight section with developers,a funny fan mail section,their cover stories are always in depth and informative and their reviews are well written and generally free of bias. I don't see what them being owned by gamestop has to do with anything.

[PixelGateUk]

i'm not saying people CAN'T read their stuff so not sure why you were justifying why you like them. Hope you feel as passionate about ASDA's life magazine

[81BX]

I get the mag as well my fav section is the good, the bad and the ugly. His point wasnt that u cant like it. It was that its their job to pitch games

[detroitmademe]

I don't hate cod. I'm just not a fan because I don't believe the gameplay is good enough. I am a fan of battlefield because the gameplay is nice and varied like i like. If the next cod turned out to have some variety in its gameplay I would become a fan of cod.I'm a fan of good games. It's as simple as that

[WellyUK]

CoD gameplay is almost perfection. Hence why it's never changed, you don't change something thats not broken. It's the games strongest area as it's been one of the best games gameplay wise since cod2. The only game that has managed to out do cod in terms of gameplay and fluidity is Titanfall.

People who make it out as if BF is any better is laughable it's got the exact same issue as cod has... It's samey and if anything progressively got worse with every title. BF1 looks great and all but it isn't going to innovate or change anything up.

[RememberThe357]

lol

[oasdada]

Totally agree. Didnt like the reveal trailer at all, but the sony e3 gameplay totally changed my mind. Dunno if it was because of the awesome sony conference but the demo Looked cool as hell and was a big surprise for me

[madpuppy]

"The Call Of Duty Hate Has Gotten Embarrassing, Guys"

Grow up, I'm sure Activision and the developers of the Call of Duty series don't need your help to market and sell the game, dissatisfaction with the game will eventually prompt Acti to improve the series. that is what a healthy market is supposed to do, that is one of the big checks and balances that pushes improvement of a product. (even though Acti and the devs have been very slow in keeping up their end of the social/business contract.
Personally, I think that the micro G space combat in the new CoD looked pretty darn neat, this is the first CoD in years that piqued my interest. and I didn't need a Game Informer op ed to convince me.

[Yukonsbud]

Activision are my heros

[cash_longfellow]

So has the franchise.

[Npugz7]

I usually pass on all cod games but this one actually has my attention!

[FPS_D3TH]

It's only embarrassing if you actually still play this crap. I don't care what they bring to the table. It all still looks like hollow or on the rails cheap gameplay with bombastic scripted moments to me. Just like the past 5 or 6 games they've pumped out. Sorry if you can't learn from the past but I'd say this amount of hate was a long time coming.

[noksucow73]

I haven't bought every COD like I used to. Skipped over a few. I still think they're solid games. I think it's become "cool" to hate on COD now.

[BlakHavoc]

As mentioned before me I don't hate it, I just refuse to support it until they find a way to reinvent a franchise that gets annual releases. Go away for a year like Ubi with AC, CoD has become nothing more than a cash grab lately. Infinite warfare looks promising though, a return to the original devs, some of them at least.

[Gaming4Life1981]

I only buy cod games for the single player to be honest cause I just cannot get into the multiplayer at all. This new cod looks good to me single player wise and that's good enough for me to buy when it gets cheaper on consoles or maybe from cdkeys for 30

[SCW1982]

Haven't bought a COD since MW2, but Infinite Warfare absolutely has my attention.

[formanbradley]

Embarrassing? You did that to yourself. Water parks, skate parks, jet pax, l@z0rz, microtransaction weed camo, no skill gap, supply drops, game breaking lag EVEN ON SPLITSCREEN (mathematically test it yourself, I dare you), Ruining zombies with mandatory "easter eggs" when they're actually the main focus
People act like hating on CoD is just a fad, but I say NO. Every game made after Black Ops 1 doesn't exist to me. These games suck cock fair and square, and 100% deserve to be labeled immature.

[Kyoshi]

Don't forget Activision forcing fans to buy Infinite Shitfare just to get Modern Warfare remastered. I guess hating something for valid reasons is not allowed anymore in gaming.

[Dixiedevil]

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[BattleAxe]

The word 'hate' gets thrown around so much these days for anything and everything, that I think the word has lost its true meaning.

[Valenka]

I used to hate on it on a regular basis, but now I do so silently, because no one likes their parade getting rained on, of course. Personally, I haven't played Call of Duty since Modern Warfare 2 and I will not spend one red cent on any Call of Duty title going forward; I have no interest in the franchise nor do I have any interest in supporting Activision's addiction to milking a dead cow. If you enjoy Call of Duty, good for you. I have no interest in it, so I stay far away from it and keep my unpopular opinions to myself unless I'm asked.

[N0TaB0T]

It goes from objective disappointment to First World Problems. 'Moving On' is a rare breakthrough for people who can't get past square one.

[Chinkyinc18]

With all the crap that goes on in the world, the news outlets and social media constantly barraging us with 'controversial;' issues, and just all the BS you have to deal with in life, why would you let a GAME get you mad?

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

I'm not speaking for anyone else but my hate comes from the success COD has and that ACTIVISION won't take risks, even though they are pretty much the only company that can afford a failure or 10. Money needs to be made at the end of the day, but not all games need to break records.

[81BX]

I disagree. I feel they are taking risks the gameplay is totaly different. I just think it sux. Cod really started falling off for me with crap like heart beat sensor

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

I was saying that they don't take risks by investing in new ip's. They are hugely profitable but their portfolio is not as diverse as it should be. It's a shame because if they were willing to take a hit every now and then, gamers would have a broader range of games to buy. Not every game needs to break sales records.

[81BX]

@oldboy

Ahhh got cha

[windblowsagain]

SP is boring in COD AND BF imo.

I'd prefer it wasn't there at all.

I would like CO-OP and split screen in all games.

[Kyoshi]

I will hate COD and Activision, until the day Activision actually gives a shit about gaming.

[Trekster_Gamer]

Already have it pre-ordered the haters are in the minority...sales talk whiny haters can walk..

[Kyoshi]

I just realized that this is Game Informer. Anyone that has actually read the latest issue of Game Informer, where Infinite Warfare was the cover game, know that Game Informer is paid off by Activision, because Gamestop owns GI, and Gamestop doesn't want to piss off the big corporate monsters. The whole article about IW essentially boiled down to "The haters are stupid."

If you enjoy COD, whatever, you do that, but to deny the absolutely horrible business practices that Activision is deploying here, like putting Modern Warfare Remastered behind an $80 paywall, well, that is absolute idiocy and if you blindly support it, then you ARE part of the problem.

[shadowfax33]

how come so many people didn't knew it was call of duty during the press conference demo..it was kinda obvious!

heck,,you even see the same dude from the teaser on the small left box..