Pixels for All: Racing Towards the 4K Future

All the teraflops in the world can't stop the wave of diminishing returns.

[stalepie]

what's most important: 4K, OLED or HDR?

[Ysmir6723]

Power.To have them all.

[freshslicepizza]

oled is not most important. it's expensive and still has troubles being as bright as led. it would be 4k first for tv sets as most important because that is exactly where the market is focusing most on. this year it is now about hdr but 4k is still being pushed more.

gaming is different because it is still hard to get high frrame rates at 4k. lots of people love 1440 gaming because it is very doable to still have ultra settings and high frame rates and not have to take a second mortgage to get there.

[2pacalypsenow]

OLED

[RogueOne]

I would say OLED, HDR, and then 4K. A 1080p OLED HDR panel would appear more impressive to a standard 4K LED TV.

[Gardenia]

For now 4K. Most companies halted OLED because it is too expensive for now. Probably after 4K there will be OLED 8K so we can keep spending money on new TV's

[RogueOne]

This was a question about image quality. When it comes to image quality, spatial resolution is NOT the most important of those 3.

[medman]

@gardenia
I doubt 8k will go anywhere. You have to sit pretty close to your television to see the difference between 4k and 1080p. To see the difference between 4k and 8k? Forget about it....might as well tape your television to your forehead. Start working out those neck muscles.

In addition, streaming, even in places where they have quality internet connections, still compresses 4k so much due to bandwidth issues from the carriers, you're not really getting true quality and detail...you're getting a pretty severely compromised image. A blu ray or 4k blu ray still look so far superior to the equivalent streaming content it's a joke. And don't even get me started on broadcast television....the televisions are getting so far ahead of what the broadcast networks are capable of it would be funny if it weren't so sad.

[MrBobSugar]

HDR. It's a new contrast tech that is new with this year's models. It will be a staple technology for the next 10 years or so. 4K is already pretty standard and simply involves the amount of pixels. OLED is basically a certain kind of Ultra HD 4K TV that comes from a certain brand, LG I think. It's a very popular yet it's expensive tube but you can still get a great picture from LED Ultra HD from Sony and Samsung. HDR compatible though is in the new phase and you don't want to spend a lot on a new TV without it. You will regret it in less than a year.

The answer is you want a 4K Ultra HD TV (OLED counts as one) but make sure it's HDR compatible.

[stalepie]

OLED is very different technology. The first TV with it was Sony's XEL-1:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
as well as the original Playstation Vita, and the displays in PSVR.

They have pulled back on making TV panels themselves now, though, and strangely only LG went ahead with OLED TV production, while Samsung uses them (AMOLED) for Galaxy phones and tablets.

[medman]

@stalepie @moldybread
Moldybread....you say oled is expensive...that is true. But when you say it has troubles being as bright as led, "brightness" is not really the issue. An Oled capable of 500-600 nits will look "brighter" than an led capable of over 1000 nits because the Oled has such an enormous contrast advantage. The blacks on an Oled are true black because the pixels turn off completely and that makes the image and colors pop far more than any led can achieve and makes the image appear brighter because you have none of the light bleed associated with led backlighting technology...the difference is not even close, not even the quantum dot led's can come close. Oled is killing them with contrast. Which is why invariably, when the televisions are put to the test each year, an Oled is crowned the "picture quality" king.

4k is not more important than HDR. To see the difference between a 4k image and a 1080p image, you have to sit relatively close to the screen....a distance that is shorter than the average person sits to their television. HDR, on the other hand, is noticeable at virtually any distance. I don't know how many television manufacturers offer both versions of HDR, but I do know that LG Led and Oled televisions offer both HDR10, and the superior Dolby Vision HDR format. HDR10 has been adopted as the industry standard, but side by side, Dolby Vision is superior.

I'm hoping the Neo and Scorpio adopt both HDR10 and Dolby Vision. The xbox one S at the moment looks like it will only support HDR10.

[stalepie]

I'm hoping OLEDs with Dolby Vision come out in the 32" to 46" range. I don't know why LG so far only offers 50" and above.

[jaycptza]

OLED is not important in the least. 4K is most important it is teh crispness of the picture. HDR is then most important as that is the colour range that is displayed, so better colours etc and OLED is just a display technology which doesn't really make much of a difference unless you want really thin or low power usage

[Omnislashver36]

4K will be the last resolution jump I upgrade to for a while. 8K will be pretty useless.

I just wish they had 4Ki and 4Kp so I could set the signal to 4Ki and cap framerate at 30 fps. I HATE 60 fps.

[RogueOne]

Wait, what?

[Omnislashver36]

1080i interlaces two fields of pictures together, so even if it's 60 fps, it's only playing two alternating fields, so it's 60 fields per second, not frames per second. 60 fields is the equivalent to 30 frames per second.

So 1080i basically caps framerate at 30fps. This is why I'd like to see 4Ki as an alternative option to 4Kp. I HATE 60 fps. 4Ki would be the equivalent to 4K30.

[MAULxx]

I'm still waiting for console games to hit 1080p & 60 frames standard. I really can't be bothered with 4k resolution right now. I'm happy with my 1080p plasma & modest HT audio set up.
HDR is interesting & the OLEDs.

[MrBobSugar]

--

[ABBAJESUS]

4K screens will be standard for 10 years,