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PlayStation boss 'surprised' by Xbox Scorpio announcement

Andrew House says PlayStation 4 Neo console isn’t ready to show off yet and Sony will wait until there is enough content to illustrate its benefits

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thekhurg2905d ago

Good on Sony. Show games deal with hardware some other time.

Fin_The_Human2905d ago

Sony showed some awesome games.

Spider Man and God of War are on my most hype games list right now since I am a huge Spider Man fan and love Insomniac games.

God of War is a beast which I need not to explain why.

Death2905d ago

Spider-man looks like a must buy. God of War looked great as it always does.

darthv722905d ago

Given that the Neo is supposed to be able to play existing PS4 games with improvements... how do we know that what we saw wasn't essentially Neo mode PS4 games? Obviously there is no way to tell just by watching or even playing but there is a chance that the hardware running the demos is possibly Neo-esq in nature.

I'm good with that if it's true. It shows what I will be getting when it does release. so much potential.

freshslicepizza2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

Sony now knows it will be a hard sell to get consumers to buy a more powerful PS4 and question the performance factor for psvr. Notice the remark about how it's about optimization while you you have people like Todd Howard talk about needing more power for fallout 4 vr. That's why Sony is stuck with smaller games like batman vr because the PS4 can't handle open world games needing those high frame rates for vr

Arkam has great graphics but psvr would need then to scale the game back. So instead we get a shallow add on only for psvr. Same thing with battlefront

BlackTar1872905d ago

Moldy trying so hard folks give this man a girl scout cookie...................Hell give this man an entire box of girl scout cookies.

Nitrowolf22905d ago

Says open world can't support vr on ps4, excuse me, did you miss ff15? I know it looks like it plays like trash, cause you know a first person shooter gameplay in a ff game, but point standing it's possible.

Todd Howard talking about needing more power is th3 example you'll use? You are talking about a guy who lies for a living and also is part of a company that poorly optimizes even their pc ports.

S2Killinit2905d ago

Moldybread back at it again with the white vans.

Come on moldy give it up.

donthate2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

Sony did show a lot of great games, but I do wonder when those games will release. Keep in mind the current next big release, The Last Guardian, took almost a decade. It was announced for PS3, and we are at the cusp of new consoles again.

The real reason why Sony isn't talking about their next console is two-fold, they want you to keep buying their existing one, because Neo/PS4K isn't going to be available for another number of months. Second, it's not good PR, because it is most definitely going to look like PS VR isn't going to perform well on PS4 and they were forced to introduce Neo/PS4K.

The other kicker though, is that the people Sony is trying to court with the PS4K/Neo, the high end/core gamers that are early adopters want the best of the best. They are now likely waiting on Scorpio, and this is why MS announced it. MS basically played Sony's strategy against Sega Dreamcast with the PS2. Announce that yours is going to be so much better, if you just wait a tad little longer. We know how it went. Even more telling is Andrew House discussion of PC gamers. Well, Xbox is now encompassing PC gamers. Play Anywhere is at the heart of this.

MS just made a genius move that might actually turn the battle around!

UnHoly_One2905d ago

Nitrowolf they said the VR mode on FF15 was some special mode where you do some of the same big fights from the game or something like that.

It is not the whole open world game in VR.

Errorist762905d ago

What darthv72 says is true...it's pretty obvious most of Sony's games were running on NEO, as most of MS's conference was running on PCs.

Muzikguy2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

@BlackTar187

I heard that for the first time ever marijuana sales outsold Girl Scout cookie sales in the USA. Girl Scout cookies indeed lol

@darth

No. The games shown were on the PS4 spec. Could you imagine the backlash come release if it were otherwise? You should be looking at those games thinking "wow, I'll get to play that" instead of "f*ck, I need another system just to play that. They lied to me..."

@donthate

Wtf?? I'd say that MS talking about the Scorpio AND the slim are bad for Microsoft. Sony keeping hush on the Neo is a good thing. Where were the games for Scorpio? How much hype did the new system get? Who exactly is trying for the hardcore gamer because it sounds to me like MS is. This seems more like MS trying to dictate the generation. So what happens in 3 years when XboxTwo comes out? This is a bad strategy for MS IMO. PS4 will be 70million strong by the time Scorpio comes out. Good luck beating that horse

JustGamin852905d ago

Never been a huge fan of spider man games, but graphic wise it does look good.

Muzikguy2905d ago

@errorist

How is it obvious? Have some of you guys seen some of the games on PS4? You, moldy, and Darth act like the PS4 can't run anything so it automatically has to be coming from a different/newer system. Its unreal

PhucSeeker2905d ago

Those are my favorite too. But it's a real shame that Sony buried Gravity Rush 2 in the crowded E3 floor. You love Spider-man gameplay then trust me, Gravity Rush 2 is what you need for spider-man fix this 2016.

jeremyj29132905d ago

I'm actually a little surprised that they made me like a Spider-Man game. He's always been one of my least favorite heros, but it looks like that's changing this year. First Civil War and now this, damn you Marvel.lol Still really curious what Sucker Punch is working on since they were rumored to be doing the Spidey game.

indysurfn2905d ago

I may have to finally take the super hero plung with this one. Oh and Sony surprised that Microsoft announced already? DEJAVU! Sounds like the same words they said after Xbox one was announced. I wonder if this means they have even better sitting on the wings? They dont sound concerned that's for sure.

ZombieGamerMan2905d ago

@ darthv72 No Andrew House already confirmed every game shown was running on base PS4 models, Sony just didn't want to talk hardware especially when they are already pushing for the VR. Just look at MS press conference they announced an Xbox One slim only to then shoot themselves on the foot by announcing Scorpio. Sony wanted to focus on games and push VR, had they taken the time to talk about Neo it would have made people hesitant to get PS VR and spend less time showing off VR games, announce new games and show off new game footage to games we already knew about

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ecchiless2905d ago

@moldybread...

.....So Resident Evil 7, what it is? is not a full game? is gonna be a demo? cause im pretty sure they said is full made for psvr, so i guess is not a big game according to you, shame on capcom then.

UltraNova2904d ago

Darth,

When a game like Uncharted 4 is already running flawlessly on an OG ps4, comments like yours highlight the fact that the Earth will be depleted of Sodium based minerals sooner than most scientific and internet forum based projections.

GG my friend GG.

assdan2904d ago

If you wanted the newest and best tech ASAP, you'd build a gaming PC right now that's stronger than the scorpio.

Trez12342904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

Death@ can you actually tell me with a straight face that xbox fans don't care about sales or wouldn't be shouting from the roof top if tables were turned? I mean its not like greenberg or major Nelson ain't working for xbox anymore and some of us who don't have the ability to erase our memories like xbox fans this gen, remember how these guys including xbox fans were talking sales last gen.

You guys are laughable with you innocent talk. What xbox is doing with their ecosystem is good and if it works then yay!. But Sony's ps4 is in a good position with the biggest market share and don't need to force things.

Kingthrash3602904d ago

Same way we don't know that gears wasn't running on pc.

ShakyTown2904d ago

@ecchiless Actually that RE7 teaser demo is not a part of the game as was discussed in several articles already. Here is but one of many
http://m.ign.com/articles/2...

Pongwater2904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

@Shaky - True, but irrelevant to what he said. RE7 will be playable from beginning to end on both PS4 and PSVR when the game releases. That was stated on stage at Sony's show.

@moldy - I hope they're paying you well, or at the very least I hope the Kool-Aid is tasty. You are a veritable bs machine.

ecchiless2904d ago

@shaky

/facepalm.... Did you see the presentation? If you did then you should know what im talking about. Resident Evil 7 is gonna be full vr for the ps4 besides the normal first person view, so again, is that a small game?
What about GT sports, Ace combat, are those not full games? are gonna be demos?

LordMaim2904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

@moldybread: Obviously you haven't played RIGS. Full game content is not only possible, it looks awesome. PSVR can absolutely handle it.

@donthate: Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a prebooking on a PSVR at this point is? It's already performing very well.

ShakyTown2904d ago

@ecchiless @Pongwater I did watch the presentation and was completely blown away by every min of Sony's conference, it's all very exciting. That being said, we have no indication of what the RE7 Psvr experience will actually be when it launches. I guess the reaction to most of the other Psvr experiences playable on the floor at E3 has me a bit worried, it hasn't been good. The teleport mechanic being shown off in so many of these demos seems awfully awkward.

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Death2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

We all already know the PS4 Neo is coming. What we don't know is when and how it will affect PS4 games or PSVR. I'm not sure when not knowing about something was beneficial to consumers. Knowing about Scorpio a year in advance will most likely impact Xbox One sales, but it also makes it so consumers can choose wiser this holiday season. Anyone buying an Xbox One S can't be upset when the more powerful Scorpio hit's store shelves within a year of buying one. I'm sure there were marketing reasons Microsoft had for making the announcement early, but the benefit to customers is something we haven't seen before. I'm not surprised Sony is trying to twist this into being a bad thing, but it is odd seeing gamers complain about being informed.

Fin_The_Human2905d ago

Well said.

I think MS is fine with having 3 XBox offerings.

Similar to what Apple does with the Mac line.

Vanilla XB1 is a standard XBox which you can get for dirt cheap and it introduces the people who haven't made the jump to next gen yet.

XB1 S is for the people who have had and XB1 from launch and want a smaller one with the benefits of 4K and HDR.

Scorpio is for the tech buff like me who wants the lastest and besttechnology ASAP.

Hold_It2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

Agreed. I would think Neo is probably going to be teased at PlayStation Experience along with more news about Crash, gameplay and release for Resident Evil 2 Remake, Ni No Kuni 2 release date, and many more. Then they can present it on their terms at their own conference with as much time as they need to all the PlayStation owners around the world.

S2Killinit2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

Wait but Sony has also confirmed that they have Neo coming. They did this BEFORE MS, soo... How are they less informed?

shinrock2905d ago

That's where GameStop becomes useful. Good ol trade ins.

Trez12342905d ago

All they need to know is that psvr works fine on the ps4 n we all saw it. Sony is not in a losing position so you xbox fans need to chill. Everything is looking good for ps4 n it's owners. They're getting vr and standard games so the ps neo is just the better version of what's already possible.

You guys talk like is Sony who's losing and playing catch up. Yet we know it's xbox hidding numbers n letting people guess n what not. Sony will show the neo to the biggest console market share when they're ready n by showing only games for ps4 the other day, they only confirmed that when it comes to console, they are the only worldwide company.

Just look at the e3 live cast and you will see the amount of games, variety that playstation has. It really is the only worldwide console out there and there's not denying unless you're blind.

donthate2905d ago

Yup, that is exactly it.

Holding back information is beneficial to Sony and Sony only. Putting it out there is not beneficial to MS, but very beneficial to consumers, because you get to choose. Just like how you get to choose if you think EA Access has value.

In the long run, this is good for MS in the sense that they build trust with users. MS is not there to screw you over, but welcome you by giving you options to choose.

JackBNimble2905d ago

MS announced Scorpio out of sheer desperation. It screams out to that they have failed to entice gamers so far this gen and they have a bigger better xbox coming, but you have to wait only a year and a half.

JustGamin852905d ago

I could have sworn neo would of be released for holidays 2016, but im not so sure now seeing how the retail version for PSVR is $399 and Sony wouldnt drop two sku at once both retailing over $399. However im incline to think that the neo hardware has been already picked and set and i do hope that its on par with what MS have up its sleeve.

Muzikguy2905d ago

MS isn't there to screw you over? What about all the 180s and flipped switches? I think having revealed the Scorpio was a bad move. They didn't have any games to show or anything. Really they just wanted to beat Sony to the punch. Now, we wait and see people neglect Xbox for a year while they wait for the Scorpio to release. How was that smart? Desperation move

iceman062905d ago

I don't see it as "twist this into being bad" as much as it is reflecting on their direct experience with the introduction to the PS4. I remember thread after thread of "but they didn't show the box" and " why show it now if you don't have a box to show?" comments. Apparently, Sony took that to heart when thinking about this announcement. As for knowledge of forethought, well, that's pretty much moot with a mid-gen update as is. None of us expected this radical paradigm shift in strategy. Most just figured it would just be a shorter generation. Now it's just more of a "when?" and "how much?" prospect.

Death2905d ago

@S2K,
This is Sony's Andrew House claiming he was "surprised" by the announcement. If you read the article he also states Sony learned their lesson about announcing a new console without showing it. I'm not sure what they learned since they announced the Neo before e3 and no pictures or concrete specs.

@Muzik,
The 180's and flipped switched you speak of resulted in a much better Xbox today. Consoles evolve. The Xbox is evolving faster and moving to multiple platforms giving gamers more choices than ever before. The games you buy today will work on Scorpio next year and PC now. Neo will do the same, but for console only. Is anyone neglecting PS4while waiting for Neo?

@Trez,
The only ones concerned over console sales seem to be PlayStation fans, Xbox fans moved past sales. Xbox and PC are merging giving developers a much, much larger user base than console alone. It's not a competition for sales anymore, the games are moving beyond that. Digital Xbox games will be playable on Xbox One, Xbox Scorpio, and PC with crossplay and game saves between all three platforms. You won't need to spend money on re-masters since the same game will play on all three taking advantage of each platforms strengths.

DeadlyFire2905d ago

@Death sure Xbox and Windows are merging in one box. OSes outside Windows platforms could exist on PC in the future too. Well they already do, but Sony could take on Windows and SteamOS in the future with a similar deal exclusive games and cross buy for its platforms.

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SonyAddict2904d ago

The only one making it a bad thing is you!.

turdburgler10802904d ago

Xbox will have two options. One that does 1080 (xbox one S) and one that does 4k (scorpio). Choice is good.

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Genuine-User2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

@Moldy

You're so far off course that I can't help but question the nature of your comment.

Why would it be harder for Sony to get consumers to buy a more powerful PS4?

Why would consumers question the performance factor for PSVR?

Console gaming is all about optimisation, and Todd suggesting more power for Fallout VR is not a statement against optimisation.

Sony isn't stuck with smaller games. Did you miss the annoucement of Resident Evil 7 VR?

Tell me what's better. Providing your entire current-gen consumer base with equally impressive VR content or do what Microsoft has in plan and only provide that option to Scorpio owners?

Jayszen2905d ago

@Genuine User

Some really good points. Sony is ensuring that PSVR can be enjoyed by ALL PS4 customers, those who bought the vanilla version and those who will buy NEO. Microsoft,on the other hand, wants only those who can afford Project Scorpio to enjoy "Real VR" as Phil kept on describing at the presentation.

Ultimately the best console is the one with the games and at present only the PS4 is delivering on games on a consistent basis (So far this year it has had 5 major exclusives as opposed to just 1 from Microsoft). With all of the games announced over the last two years for the PS4, quite a few to still come out this year as well as the 50 odd releasing this year for the PSVR, I think it is safe to say that the Playstation brand will have plenty of games.

krypt19832905d ago

Your will not be playing AAA vr games on the vanilla ps4 hate to break it to you, and if you do it will be ugly small titles which will prolly still run like shit

Muzikguy2905d ago

Always off course. I'm sure the Neo will have better VR experience, but to be able to play with the vanilla PS4 as well is a testament to Sony. Personally all I see is desperation from MS with the Scorpio announcement

Sevir2905d ago

LMAO! @Krypt dude lay off the Crack pipe?

You must have missed the press shows. Ace Combat 7 is a AAA PlayStation VR exclusive, did you also miss the colossal news that Resident Evil 7's is playable entirely in VR and that the VR version is exclusive to PSVR? We're you asleep when Crytek Announced Robinson:The Journey as PSVR exclusive and it's very much a AAA game...

Please just be quiet. You're behaving as if PlayStation 4 produces ugly games that run poorly? News flash it doesn't and we've had this argument already, PS4 > XBO... the VR games are made to run perfectly on the well spec'd PS4, so both smaller VR experiences and large AAA games like the 3 already confirmed will be just fine on a PSVR

rlow12905d ago

Yeah, with lower resolution since the PSVR isn't even close to HTC or Oculus. Or are you going to say resolution doesn't matter anymore? When it comes to VR it sure does. As VR games get more powerful then what will happen to the regular PS4? Some games that might have come out for psvr will just skip it, because Sony requires all games to work with the older hardware. Have fun with your 400 dollar low Res PSVR.

Pongwater2904d ago

It seems pretty safe to question the nature of moldy's comments imo.

LordMaim2904d ago

@rlow1: That's because the Vive is also $800 instead of the PS VR's $400. I'm sure that if they doubled the price of the unit they could double the resolution too.

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Fatal-Aim2905d ago

THANK YOU!

Sony has so much under their belt right now. Why Would they need to Show Neo so early just because their competition's platform ran out of steam? These headlines are dumb. Now if Sony didn't have a Neo, only then would there be a problem. Right now, they have their feet kicked. They basically pressured Microsoft into throwing down their one ace, and now they know what kind of cards Microsoft is holding.

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joab7772905d ago

@death.. I've always know that a great spiderman game could be unbelievably good. Here's to hoping we get a string of these.

SuckerPunch would a be a great development to do a superhero game too. I just don't know which one I want next.

I'd love an rog like Mass Effect set in a super hero world. Similar to the DCUO concept, but a giant sandbox rpg.

senorfartcushion2905d ago

Sony did have the best conference but NO WAY was Andrew House surprised. Sony were showing the Neo until the week before. They even announced it as real days before the conference e.g. "it is real, wr have one now and we are saying it first."

The Neo's specs were too low to show at the conference, Sony found out and pulled it.

Why else was there a badly optimised Days Gone demo at the end? It was filling in for the Neo reveal.

Gol3m2904d ago

Badly optimised.......lololololololo l damn you guys pull some clangers put your butts. Days gone looked perfectly fine. Perhaps you were thinking of that other 3rd person game that looked look a 360 game.....what was it called again....oh thats right gears 4

senorfartcushion2904d ago

Gol3m

Well, yeah. The AI ignore the character. Watch the video, they walk right past him e.g. badly optimised, badly made, rushed to all hell vertical slice

BigLurch2905d ago

Could be a long time till we see neo!

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sangoku_d2905d ago

gamers want to see it with neo mode enabled games. then we have solid info on whether to buy it, base model is amazing already

Eonjay2905d ago

Actually this is a good point. One imagines that if you are trying to sell someone on a future product, seeing is believing.

I think Microsoft should have waited until it had content to show.

darthv722905d ago

It is very possible that we already were seeing Neo mode on those game demos. If not then it shows the PS4 is still a beast in the right hands. Either way I was impressed by what was on display.

Eonjay2905d ago

@darthv If you read the comments from Andrew, he makes it clear that they haven't shown anything yet. He wants to build of a suite of content and have one blowout.

krypt19832905d ago

Had cintent to show you kids are not bright at all , all you have to do is imagine Witcher 3 running at 4k 60fps or the divisione fallout running 4k 60fps these new consoles are not going to have special games and different cases same software just 10×s better

Muzikguy2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

@darth

Why is it so hard to believe that we are seeing PS4 capable games?! Is it that you've been lied to so much you don't know what to believe anymore? Yes, the PS4 can be a beast when used properly. We all know this. So why keep downplaying the system?

Sevir2905d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

@Darth
All you're seeing is year 3 PS4 games. Natural evolution of game engines extracting more from current hardware. Andrew House has already come out and stated PS4 Neo games are not ready for show.

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Timesplitter142905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

Chances are some of the Sony E3 demos were already running on Neo prototype hardware. Most of the big upcoming titles we saw will launch when the Neo will already have been released, and the flagship version of these games will obviously be the Neo one

And we all know by experience that E3 presenters will never miss a chance to display their games in the best light possible

sangoku_d2905d ago

after playing uncharted 4 id say no

Timesplitter142905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

yeah but don't forget U4 is 30fps and doesn't have 100 zombies on screen

Aenea2905d ago

Of course I'm a bit afraid of that too, but let's hope it's not, Uncharted 4 gave us proof that games can look that good on the regular PS4...

Captain_Mushroom2905d ago

Why the hell are you getting so many disapproves? Everything you said makes sense, especially the second paragraph. God, this community is downright nasty.

objdadon2905d ago

Lol, that was just the good ol fashion ps4 buddy. Thats what happens when you have actual talented developers and allow them the time harness the power of a console. Look at uncharted 4!

Sparta072905d ago

"yeah but don't forget U4 is 30fps and doesn't have 100 zombies on screen"
And what does that mean!?
U4 is the best looking game on any console. Hell you can even argue it looks better then any pc game. So what was the point of your comment? Lol, just cause Sony exclusives look so good doesn't mean it's on neo.

objdadon2905d ago

@Timesplitter14, it's already said that god of war will be 30fps. Probably will be 60fps in neo mode. Microsoft announced 2 consoles in 1 conference that are only a year apart from each other. The most confusing thing I've ever seen.

Eonjay2905d ago

In the interview he clearly states that this is not the case.

xfiles20992905d ago

Sony comfirmed all games were on PS4 not NEO.

ORyanDeee2905d ago

digital foundary thinks the days gone demo was running on PS4 becuase the frame rate was just above 30

mkis0072905d ago

That would be incredibly nearsighted of them...when they want to finally show it off, if what your claiming is true, they would have no comparisons and people would call them out on it. The point would be to be able to go up on stage and show Zero Dawn running, and then the next second it's running even better on a neo for comparison. They would take that away by showing the neo ahead of time.

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ThanatosDMC2905d ago

If the Xbox One can have a ridiculous amount of zombies on screen (Dead rising 3) and not to mention Dying Light The Following, why couldnt the PS4?

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opinionated2905d ago

I'm happy to see them giving Microsoft a chance to catch up with the slim. Let's make it a real race boys!

343_Guilty_Spark2905d ago

Sony can't match Scorpio. It's too late in the game.

ShadowKnight2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

Selling over 40 million consoles is not to late in the game its actually the beginning. Fanboy nonsense lol

Majin-vegeta2905d ago

Obviously you know more about Neo than the rest of us....

Sparta072905d ago

What the hell are you talking about? Too late for what? PS4 is probably close to 45 million now. Xbox is close to 20million. Scorpio is not even out, what makes you think Sony won't make neo stronger then Scorpio? You think Sony is sitting on their hands doing nothing? Lol.

lokirevamped2905d ago

I am getting the Scorpio, hands down a day one purchase for me. I really do hope Sony ups the Neo's specs, I am getting the Neo as well. I will just give my current models (X1 + PS4) to a family member.

Xavy2905d ago

Yeah go back to your cave and wait 18 months for this PC to release.

iTechHeads2905d ago

No one cares. It's releasing this year most likely and will be more affordable.
I think Sony and their fans will sleep just fine having "only" 4.2TF.

AdmGenAladeen2905d ago

They can if they want to. The question is were those the REAL specs "accidentally" released to Giant Bomb? Was Sony trying to bluff MS? Did MS fall for it? None of us will find out these answers until Sony shows what they have. In the end if Sony wants to do 4k gaming the specs will be close to Scorpio. We all win in the end!

Majin-vegeta2905d ago

For all we know those specs could be a year old for Dev kits and have probably tinkered with them after feedback.

Sony has been trolling MS since the reveal of the PS4.

Gol3m2905d ago

I agree Sony wouldn't be locked in yet. There'd be 3 or 4 different routes they can take with neo. This would be afforded to them by AMD as they are the market leader for consoles. When Sony saw the specs of the Scorpio I guarantee they'd be on the phone to AMD telling them to go with a certain optiom. MS played their hand too early. I fear for the xbox fanboys of n4g that this hooting and carrying on about scorpio being the king (yet unreleased) is about to bite them back hard.

dboyman2905d ago

I really hope Sony changes the specs of the Neo to match Scorpio or come up with a "SuperNeo"...

Pongwater2904d ago

"Was Sony trying to bluff MS? Did MS fall for it?"

The same thing occurred to me while watching MS's press conference. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.

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boing12905d ago

Xbox and Windows 10 exclusive.

iceman062905d ago

Good for them because they really don't have to. The Neo and Scorpio are niche consoles, much like high end PC's. While tech heads will go crazy for them, the mass market will continue to go for where the games are, where their friends are, and where mindshare tells them to go. With a 2:1 share of the market, all Sony has to do is keep pace and keep pumping out games...neither of which shows any signs of slowing down.

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ITryToGame2905d ago

Asked about the decision, he said: “In terms of the right time to talk about Neo, just like every other hardware launch, VR being a good example, it’s when you’ve got a full range of experiences that you can showcase to say this is why this product’s great and that’s why we’re offering it. And that time is not right now.”

Bad example to use House, Sony announced PSVR over two years ago, a bit contradicting.

OB1Biker2905d ago

Well PSVR had a few experiences to show off running on it for a while too. Its not like they were just talking about a device and sofware that didnt exist yet

Sevir2905d ago

And when they did, they also had a selection of 3-4 demos to demonstrate it's brand, and expanded on that with limited but still enough software for audiences to sample at E3 that year, so no he used a great example

jznrpg2905d ago

When they announced it they showed games for it, did you see scorpio games?

OOMagnum2905d ago

I don't think you understand lol. THERE ARE NO SCORPIO ONLY Games.

Gol3m2905d ago

Not according to MS execs. Apparently if someone wants to develop for scorpio only then there'll be exclusives...goodbye xbox one we hardly knew thee

S2Killinit2904d ago

@OOMagnum
That's incorrect. Scorpio is basically the Xbox 2. Firstly MS themselves said it will be VR capable, which means VR is exclusive to it. Secondly why would they need all that extra power then if it cant have its own exclusives. If you listen carefully, MS walks a fine line in the presentation, you have to read between the lines. Scorpio is MS's way of exiting the current generation softly in a transitional move. They need to kickstart the next generation but cant be seen giving up on xbox one.

Yetter2905d ago

Not to mention all games are going to run on both the neo and the PS4, so what full range of experiences are they planning on showing off?

IanTH2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

No, it's actually a fine example.

He said "in terms of the right time to talk about". In PSVRs case, that was 2 years ago when there was a realization that good consumer VR was a reality and was inching closer to coming to market (the VR landscape shifted and that stalled its launch). We had players like Samsung, HTC & Oculus all banging the VR drum. You need to get your product mindshare out in the early going for something like this. You want to be included in the conversation from day one and synonymous with a platform like VR. And they had hardware to show and software too (as others have stated). I'd say that falls into the category of looking at hardware launches in comparison to the landscape quite well actually.

In the case of Neo, the right time to talk about it isn't right now. They let you know it exists. You know the gist. And if you are talking about a box that will play the same games, only prettier? Then yea, now isn't the right time to talk about it - either from a consumer point of view or a business one. And they've largely ensured that when they do decide to talk about it, hype will be built because people will know all info will be available with actual hardware and games to see.

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Steam Account Transfer Via Will on Death is Not Permitted, Valve Confirms

In case you were curious, a Steam account transfer via will is not permitted according to an official response from Valve.

anast1d 12h ago

The games are theirs. People just pay to ride the ride.

Skuletor19h ago

Would be nice if the article's writer looked into and reported whether other digital game libraries could be transferred over via will (Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo, EGS, EA app, GOG, Ubisoft Connect, Rockstar Launcher etc) instead of this half-baked piece but it's probably the same for all of them anyway

Kornholic19h ago

This seems like a way bigger issue than mandatory PSN account linking for PlayStation games.

So where is the outcry?

Skuletor19h ago

It's not like PlayStation is doing any different.

"You may not sell, buy, trade, or transfer your Online ID, Account or any personal access to PSN Services through any means or method, including by use of web sites."
https://www.playstation.com...

NotoriousWhiz19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

It's not like your account just stops working when you die. Include your email, account id, and password in the will (including the password to your email) and your survivors should have no problem using your games.

anast16h ago

PC gamers are a different lot. They don't mind renting their games forever, they don't mind spending money on overpriced equipment, and they don't mind fiddling with settings for hours before they even play the game, but linking a PSN account demands a riot. This is hard to understand, but then again, we all have to draw our lines somewhere.

Skuletor16h ago

You sure talk a lot of nonsense.Go look up the percentage of digital sales compared to physical sales of PS5 games, then tell me again about "renting" games.

mandf15h ago

Overblown funny and 100percent true

anast14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

There is no option at all to buy a physical copy of a PC game... And more people game on consoles for the reasons that make PC gamers a different lot.

VIK212113h ago

it's not so much the linking but the fact that certain countries aren't allowed to access psn...

VIK212113h ago

@anast I have a disc ps5 since launch, initially I bought some disc games, but I can't be bothered to walk to a physical store nowadays... I just buy the titles when they go on special sale or gray market store like CDKeys...

DustMan13h ago

PSN was a different story altogether. It kept people who bought the game from playing in countries that PSN wasn't supported. I never understood the issue anyway.

I don't know if PC stuff is overpriced considering that you can buy a new video card with the same amount of money you'd spend over 5 or 6 years paying to play games online with a console. I'll never pay double to use the same connection. That is what I'll never understand about console gamers. "let me pay an extra hundred & twenty dollars a year to use the same internet I pay for monthly and use on literally every device in my home for free....except for my Playstation"

Extermin8or3_12h ago

@Skuletor about 50-60% of sales are digital for most games. Meaning 40-50% are physical....

anast12h ago

@VIK

You might not but you are not the expectation that creates a universal.

Skuletor11h ago

@Extermin8or3_
Right and where are you getting that information from?
https://www.statista.com/st...

@anast

"Renting games"
In the fourth fiscal quarter of 2023, approximately 77 percent of Sony Corporation's PlayStation gaming sales were generated via digital downloads.

"overpriced equipment"
Some people are willing to pay a premium for better performance, the way you keep talking about the PS5 Pro on N4G proves you're a hypocrite in that regard but whatever, lol

"fiddling with settings for hours before they even play the game"
Most pc games will give the option to scan your system to choose recommended settings or start with moderate settings that will run the game fine but you're free to mess around at your own leisure, to improve performance or quality if you wish to. For those that don't want to, there's free software that can do that for you, such as Nvidia's Geforce or AMD's AMD Catalyst. Geforce Experience even gives you the option of choosing whether to prioritize performance vs image quality with a simple slider for easy optimization, it's not rocket science, like you try make it out to be.

"linking a PSN account demands a riot"
Playstation selling Helldivers 2 in regions without the legal means to create a PSN account by Sony's own standards, then telling people in those regions that already bought the game that they can no longer play the game, isn't a cause for concern? Though you've already heard about that but keep going along with your own narrative because of your weird vendetta against PC on here.

This is hard to understand, but then again, we all have to draw our lines somewhere.

PRIMORDUS6h ago

I don't rent I torrent to keep, if they take them down that's ok I don't care I have them LOL. I do buy PC games but very little as I want full control which is why I torrent to keep them in my collection, and I do not give a fuck what the devs or publishers want. I never did never will.

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thorstein18h ago

So just give your progeny the passwords.

OtterX18h ago

Keep the password sealed in the Will, only to be opened after death. :)

Aphrodia15h ago

Right? How are they gonna know you are dead?

FinalFantasyFanatic13h ago

The only way they will know is when an account is active for 300 years, lol.

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[Exclusive] Xbox Reaches Agreement With Batman: Arkham Trilogy Creators For A New AAA Game

Ex-Rocksteady directors' Hundred Star is collaborating with Xbox Game Studios Publishing for its first-ever AAA game.

Lightning771d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Highly doubt it'll be an actual Batman game that IP belongs to WB Games along with other DC property.

They're making an action adventure game. IMO I think it needs to be another Marvel game despite MS already have Blade as that action Marvel game. Dead Pool? Punisher?

Realistically it'll probably be a new IP entirely.

The_Hooligan1d 6h ago

I agree with you. I think I'll be a brand new IP. Now it could be a superhero themed, kind of like infamous. Speaking of which, Suckerpunch needs to make one after Ghost 2.

neutralgamer19921d 6h ago

would love a infamous collection for ps5/pc

Lightning771d 6h ago

I definitely think it'll be super hero themed game 100%. Something MS needs in their portfolio.

ThinkThink1d 4h ago

Please, no more super hero games.

PhillyDonJawn1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Dead Pool or Punisher would be amazing!!!
Don't tease me like that man lol. I see them making a new IP that's like an arkham knight clone

Dirty_Lemons23h ago

I loved the old Punisher game back in the day. Those executions never got old.

porkChop22h ago

I don't think it needs to be Marvel. It needs to be a totally new IP. That's what Rocksteady should have done after Arkham City. They've pigeonholed themselves as DC devs.

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MIDGETonSTILTS171d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I hope these devs needed support to start/finish (like Stalker 2), vs are basically done with the game but wanted to secure an exclusivity-bonus because they know Xbox needs a system seller (like Titanfall).

It’s a bit strange that they’d rather invest in this game than Tangoworks’ TWO canceled projects; or just trust a single dev from their existing massive stable of talent to emerge with a system-seller themselves anytime soon.

Either way, it is just cool that we’ll likely get a new IP from the geniuses behind the Arkham Trilogy. I wonder how creative they’ll get now that they aren’t married to an established franchise.

darthv721d 6h ago

This is about the former co-founders of Rocksteady and their new studio. So naturally it makes people think its Batman related with the way its worded, even though its not.

-Foxtrot1d 6h ago

Exclusive? Sure

This year alone Microsoft has changed their plans so much with Xbox regarding multiplatform releases as they step closer to just being a full blown third party publisher and it's only been 4-5 months, imagine where we'll be once this game is finished. It will be a completely different landscape.

ThinkThink1d 3h ago

I don't think MS will ever go completely full 3rd party with all of their games. I can see them looking towards expanding their own mobile store and moving into Mac as ways of expanding. I'm sure ms will bring more exclusives over to ps and nintendo, but I don't think it'll be as many games as you think it will. I hope I'm wrong.

Lightning771d 3h ago

The ever contradictions thoughts and actions of MS definitely says otherwise MS changed up so much on the past 6 months of the year I lost count.

Though I'm more declined to believe they also won't go full 3rd party also.

But.

This year they're having Renaissance a super bowl of gaming with Gamepass this year. BO6, older ABK games, Avowed, Indy and other 3rd party exclusives all to grow and expand gamepass. If these games don't grow the service or grow only a little bit. Then you can fully expect MS to hit the red button and put everything everywhere. Satya will have full Xbox take over doing what he wants from that point on next year.

It's up to Xbox to advertise these games and gamepass in the next 6 months or so get the word out.

Profchaos1d 2h ago

The more the news evolves the more I'm inclined to believe we will see MS embrace full third party status but not call it third party in their word soup ways.

It will be Xbox everywhere plays best on a Xbox.

Next gen Xbox is rumoured to be a reference design similar to the 3d0 where any company can make and sell it.

If you're offloading hardware costs to a third party yet still profiting from the games then you've cut out losses on the hardware you still have a store front that users can use and still make a 30 percent cut on that.

Your games sell for a profit on PS and Nintendo platforms and on Xbox reference hardware along with PC

You lose .kney on DLC and games sold on a competitor storefront they are seemingly already comfortable with this.

The ms bean counters are coming for the ROI that was promised they don't care if they kill the brand as it stands Xbox was never a profitable business it was always just done for reputation

PhillyDonJawn1d 2h ago

@Lightning the would end the console then. No one would buy Xbox over PS at that point cause now you get both with just a PS. If GP flop for them, Logically, rolling back on GP would be the smarter than to do. No more day 1 title. Less quality titles. They'd lose subs but people would go back to buying the games.

Lightning771d 1h ago

@Philly They could scale back gamepass put Indies only, AAA 1st party games coming 4 to 6 months from release. The thing is MS will have to tell their fans to buy their games again and that's gonna take years and years to condition them to buy games again. MS will lose money from that also. They'll lose out on gamepass revenue, lose out on games sales because their fans don't buy as many games anymore.

I can't see them scaling back or axing gamepass it does make them allot of money, they just want more money from it. They're not gonna condition their fans to start buying games either.

As I said they'll go full 3rd party and yes you ate right, if they do that then there would be no reason to buy the next Xbox. I know j won't be, you better hope the next 6 months they advertise the games and GP there little hearts out because this could be it.

ThinkThink13h ago

Like, I can see them porting flight simulator, but not the Forza games.

I can see them porting state of decay 3, but not halo or gears.

I think sony will get blade, doom and elder scrolls 6, but not perfect dark or fable.

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purple1011d 5h ago

Spawn (as well as master chief) are the only characters I associate with Xbox. Are there more I can’t remember?

rlow11d 4h ago

Gears is another big game one.

purple1011d 4h ago

Yeh big game, do you know the name of the lead character. Or team of lead characters. I don’t

rlow11d 4h ago

Marcus, Dom, Cole Train. And I can’t remember the fourth.

Profchaos1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Also the chick from gears 5 seems to pop up on all their modern advertising I can't remember her name either.

Cars also feature heavily in a Xbox ad it's always master chief front and centre with cars and maybe a gears character hanging around

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Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica Remakes are reportedly in the works, not Resident Evil 1

Industry insider Dusk Golem reveals that there is no Resident Evil 1 Remake in the works. Instead, Capcom are reportedly in active development of Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica.

-Foxtrot2d ago

RE Zero would be better to do first over RE1 because they can tie the story into RE1 more.

The original RE Remake was weird because Rebecca never mentioned anything about what happened in Zero and it felt so disjointed because Zero was developed during the Remake and they clearly didn't share any notes with one another.

Cacabunga1d 12h ago

Wise decision. 2 of my favorites!

repsahj1d ago

RE Zero is one of my favorite game on gamecube!

Knightofelemia2d ago

Give me Dino Crisis dammit Capcom

TGG_overlord1d 17h ago

And all it took was +24 years + a phone call from me lol.

GotGame8181d 9h ago

LOL! A phone call from you? ROFL! They have been remaking RE games for YEARS! It was a matter of time!

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