No one would say that the Wii U was a commercial success. Actually, scratch that, no one aside from the most rabid fanboys would make such a claim.
I love my Wii U. Nintendo first party games are still appealing to me. Mario and Kirby games never gets old too me. Currently playing Zelda:Twilight Princess HD
Of all people you probably didnt need to put a "tbh" after the xbox one jab.
I hope you played Xenoblade X! That game alone is worth the purchase!
One of my favorite games on the Wii U!
I'm assuming you've played the original Xenoblade. If you have which one did you like better?
I got Twilight Princess HD the day it released but I'm holding off playing it until a few weeks before Zelda U/NX comes out.
Basically a 1st party games machine. If you like yet more Mario and Zelda then its a great console for you. If you like variety in a 3rd party library then there's little else the WiiU can offer you I'm afraid, never got the support it needed.
Haha variety in 3rd party being assassins creed/far cry from Ubisoft and FIFA,NBA, NHL battlefield and cod from Activision each and every year... Yawn, got my ps4 if I really wanted to play any of that.
Yeah it got the casual stuff, but what about acclaimed multi platform games such as Dark souls or Witcher? But with what your saying it sounds like your WiiU is a second console which is the case for many people, I know a fair few people who have a WiiU as an extra console but nobody who has it as their main.
I have it as my main cause most of my favorite franchises are Nintendo franchises and since they rarely go down in price (sometimes going up) I get their console first, then at the end/beginning of the next gen I pick up an Xbox/PlayStation at a low price and pick up all the gems on those systems for 5-20 bucks since that's how low they tend to go within a year or so lol.
Yeah fair play the great multiplatform stuff of course but and I know it all helps but me personally not interested in yearly churns on Nintendo consoles.
RosweeSon basically said what I was going to say. There really isn't much variety in ANY of the games from 3rd parties. Nintendo at least changes up the gameplay more between iterations of their franchises than 3rd parties do, or Sony or Microsoft for that matter. I'd say the best games Ubisoft has put out in the last 5 years have been Child of Light and Zombiu, Gamepad integration in Zombiu is so good.
Correction; it's an exclusives and indies machine, not a third party multiplat machine. Its selection of exclusives and indies is great; third party multiplats, not so much. And it could have gotten last-gen games like Dark Souls, but third parties quit trying after their initial efforts were done too horribly to sell to the Nintendo fanbase, let alone to gamers outside of Nintendo systems that buy systems FOR third party multiplats.
I love my WiiU and it has loads of must play games. I feel sorry for people without a WiiU, you've missed out, your loss not ours. And yes I'm well aware that the PS4 and Xbox one are both fantastic...
I'm willing to bet most critics haven't even played it, but the double standards are interesting: With a Nintendo platform, you're guaranteed the most first party exclusives pretty much. People can use it as their exclusives machine and that makes perfect sense; I do it. You might, too. But then you get people complaining that it's weak when PC runs circles around the consoles. If power matters that much, build a rig. And the people who say it has no variety on its first party exclusives when Xbox gamers aren't really doing juicy better in that regard. Seriously, Forza Horizon 3 is considered a "leak" now. I own a Wii U, Xbox One, and PS4. I use PS4 the most because it's the best platform for my tastes, but it's sad when double standards are at work. If you don't like Nintendo, just man up and admit that. But even when they do cool new things like Xenoblade Chronicles X, Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE, and Splatoon, it's largely ignored outside of the existing community. I just wish people were more honest with themselves. Today's gamers are an unusual lot.
Agreed. It's like some people seem to dislike Nintendo or think its uncool or whtever. But when you make one of the assholes sit down and play a WiiU you see their eyes light up wnd you can tell they're realizing that its actually awesome.
Wii U is a bad console that has some really good games. It suffered from a muffed launch and bad marketing, but in the end it was just a system that people didn't want.
I would say that the Wii U is as underrated as the Dreamcast is as overrated. Plenty of people just won't give it a chance and that's depressing. Heck Bayonetta 2 should've sold better and moved more consoles than it did, considering it's easily better than the first. It's a shame, but it is what it is.
Dreamcast wasn't really overrated though. In the short life span the Sega Dreamcast's graphics destroyed PS1, and early PS2 games. The Dreamcast could actually run burned Ps1 games and make the textures for the games look a lot better due to the hardware. It also had arcade perfect ports of every arcade game that was released for the system. Dreamcast is what pioneered a web browser for consoles, pioneered MMO gaming for consoles, invented DLC, and also invented online multiplayer for consoles. In the short life span the system had, it still had more memorable exclusives and better first party games and support than the Wii U did in the same amount of time. Calling the Sega Dreamcast overrated is like calling all of gaming worthless. The Wii U doesn't appeal to me at all, and not really a lot of people as sales show that very well. The system isn't garbage, it's just marketed terribly. The Wii U suffered the same fate that the Vita did, promising all this third party support, has great hardware but terrible marketing and lack of third party support and other accessories and controllers that don't force you to use the gamepad. I loved the Gamecube more than the PS2 and Original Xbox, and if Nintendo wants me to buy another console from them, they'll need to make something that has a library as extensive as that. Nintendo is a company that is at their best when they aren't focusing on gimmicks. The SNES, and Gamecube easily provide some of the best gaming experiences of all time, and the 3DS has a really good library too, but unfortunately now it seems like Nintendo looks at themselves as a Toy company rather than looking at themselves as a gaming publisher/ gaming company.
I think that's a bit of an overstatement. It's true that it was a great console in its life, but I think it's fair to say it's overrated. You can just as easily say Tupac and Nirvana were overrated too. They simply vanished before having an opportunity to age and become unlikable. Anything could have happened. If SEGA games post-DC are any indication, software wasn't really going to get much better. Sonic games have gotten bad over the years and the good ones haven't really aged too well. We're only now really talking about Shenmue 3. I just think, to that end, it's fair to say it's overrated. Regarding the Wii U, your message is a bit confusing. You say it's great hardware and it's "just" marketed terribly, but doesn't appeal to you? As I said, it's great as an exclusives machine. Third party wise, it's indisputably the weakest. Hardware also lags behind Xbox One and PS4. Again though, the standards are messed up. We recognize the Wii U has weaker hardware and less games but overlook PC's similar advantages over ALL of the consoles. Maybe you like the exclusives on PS4 and Xbox One (which are pretty rare when you add UWP). Well, that's good justification to buy one if you're ordinarily a PC gamer, but the same is true of Wii U. It's literally the exact opposite of PC. One is definitive and great for third party titles. The Wii U is least powerful but outclasses every other platform for first party support (so good luck finding those titles elsewhere). You say gimmick, but the Game Pad is great for a number of things, but I agree that it could be more properly integrated. I'd say it's the console with the most identity and it's totally underrated. We can leave it at that.
Bayo 2 sold broke past the million sales not long ago. For a Platinum game on a console with such a small install base, that's a success. Edit @ disagrees: how can you disagree with facts? Bayonetta 2 sold more on Wii U than Bayo 1 did on PS3, and almost as much as Bayo 1 on Xbox 360. And the Wii U's install base is barely 12-13 million users, whereas the other consoles had install bases of around 80 million, give or take some millions because of failure rates. It's a fact. Bayonetta 2 sold much better on Wii U, than Bayo 1 did on the other consoles, when you consider attach rates.
@deaf You're absolutely right. I just want Nintendo to make something again like the Gamecube. We had Paper Mario Thousand Year Door,(exclusive) Super Mario Sunshine(exclusive), Metroid Prime(exclusive), Metroid Prime 2(exclusive), Resident Evil Remake (was exclusive), Resident Evil 0 (was exclusive), Resident Evil 4 (was exclusive), Resident Evil 2 (was a port), Resident Evil 3 (was a port), Pokemon Colosseum (exclusive), Pokemon XD : Gale of Darkness (exclusive), MGS Twin Snakes (exclusive remastered version of MGS1), Eternal Darkness (exclusive), Custom Robo (exclusive), F-Zero GX (exclusive), Geist (exclusive), Mega Man Network Transmission (exclusive), Mario Golf (exclusive), Mario Kart Double Dash (exclusive), Kirby Air Ride (exclusive), Star Fox Assault (exclusive), Super Smash Bros Melee (exclusive), Wario World (exclusive), Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance (exclusive), Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (exclusive), Phantasy Star Online Episode 3 (exclusive), Star Wars Rogue Leader (exclusive), Star Wars Rebel Strike (exclusive), Luigi's Mansion (exclusive), Wave Race Blue Storm (exclusive), Legend Of Zelda Windwaker (exclusive), Legend Of Zelda Four Swords (exclusive) That's just some of the exclusive games for Gamecube, not all of them, and the third party support was amazing. If Nintendo can have a lineup half as good as that with the NX, the system will be a success for them.
Of course it is. Only the haters and people who haven't played the top quality/rated games will say otherwise.
@jcnba You can also be a fan of what Nintendo was, and not what they have become. Doesn't make said person a "hater".
Never said you couldn't. Where exactly did I say that in my comment?
What they have become? The best games publisher by a mile
@jcnba "Only the haters and people who haven't played the top quality/rated games will say otherwise"
More likely, the Wii U was one of the worst consoles ever. Weak specs, missing features, oversized awkward gamepad gimmick, meager library of games, poor online, anti-consumer DRM, the list goes on. Far from "the most underrated console ever".
Weak specs in comparison of current gen and PC yes, but compared to PS3, 360, and Wii, no. The WiiU could have been something really special, coming from the PS3/360/Wii era. The system RAM in the Wii U is 2GB (8 times PS3's RAM, 4 times the Xbox 360's RAM) where as the System RAM in the PS3 was 256MB (128MB of it went to the Xross Media Bar), and the System RAM in the Xbox 360 was 512MB (half a GB). The Wii U contains 2 GB of DDR3 system memory consisting of four 512 MB (4 Gb) DRAM chips with a maximum bandwidth of 12.8 GB/s. This is 20 times the amount found in the Wii.Of this, 1 GB is reserved for the operating system and is unavailable to games. The memory architecture allows the CPU and GPU to access both the main DDR3 memory pool and the eDRAM cache memory pool on the GPU, removing the need for separate, dedicated memory pools. That would allow it to access the RAM in a way similar to how the PS4's graphics memory and system memory are pooled together cutting down the time it takes to transfer input and output processes. The Graphics card in the Wii U is also a huge step up from PS3, 360, and Wii. I just think the problem is that since the WII U's install base isn't as large as Xbox One's and PS4's developers outside of Platinum and Nintendo don't want to risk putting a lot of money or making well developed games, so the games not made by Nintendo or Platinum run dissapointingly. There's no reason a system that is more powerful than a PS3 and a 360 can't take a multiplatform release like Mass Effect 3, and Assassin's Creed III and have it be a day and night difference not only in graphics, but frame rate for the Wii U vs PS3 and 360 versions. If anything, it should look as big or almost as big as comparing The Last Of Us to the Last Of Us Remastered. Look at how great Mario Kart 9 looks and runs on Wii U, it easily looks like something that is in the ballpark of Xbox One and PS4, not something that is from a couple gens ago. Not supporting the Wii U Pro Controller in ALL of the games, lack of third party support, having to BUY A ETHERNET PORT as an accessory, dated multiplayer system, anti-consumer DRM, and pretty much abandoning it for the 3DS is what really hurt the system in my opinion. Here's to hoping that the NX shows that they learned from this.
If Wii U had a meagre library of games then what does Xbox one have as one of their top games is a collection of old N64 classics.
Third party support, which the Wii U is sorely lacking. Yup, Xbox One can't touch Wii U with a 10-feet-pole when it comes to exclusives, but third party is a very big part of a console's appeal for the mass market. And PS4 and Xbox One and PC all outclass the Wii U there.
That's why I went ps4/Wii U ;) Xbox one has not a lot that's not available elsewhere.
I went PS4 / Wii U as well, because I like Sony's games more than Microsoft's. But there are people that went with Xbox One because of Halo, Gears, Forza, Killer Instinct, Rise, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, and others, and upcoming games like Cuphead and Scalebound. I don't care about most of these games for X1, but a lot of people do, especially when it comes to the big 3 (Halo, Forza and Gears). To say that the X1 has nothing to offer is just not true. C'mon, man, don't be a fanboy, you can be better than that.
I gotta disagree and give the title to the Dreamcast. A system that was way ahead of the times, the ideas were there , the library of games were great and had high replay value . But the biggest reason was internet play, my first ever taste of online play was phantasy star online , it was incredible and such a huge leap in gaming but even with all of that the Dreamcast could not succumb the inevitable piracy market which plagued it, a monkey could burn a Dreamcast game, even with the prehistoric speed of the Internet, it didn't stop humanity
gamecube wasnt underrated, it was underappreciated...wiiU is grossly underrated tho....i cant be the only one who thinks nintendo cant 100% go back to have only one controller option...like every console from now on has to have the option for tablet controller...you dont have to pay to play wiiU online...its main flaw is the small library but theres enough to justify the consoles purpose imo
I would never call it a success, but not a failure either. Eveything doesn't have to be all or nothing.
It does tho these days... They are doomed? Said some people who clearly can't count profit.
It will join the club of awesome systems that literally no-one bought or were sold at all like Dreamcast, Saturn, TG-16, Vita. I'm seriously considering picking up my own now and waiting a while for the NX which we don't know anything about anyway. The Wii U kinda reminds me of N64 in way... 1st party machine with fantastic exclusives Has one of the best shooters (Splatoon = goldeneye) Weird/clunky controller Overall worse 3rd party support No Metroid game Japanese "dream team" feat. Platinum, Koei Tecmo, Bamco, Atlus, Valhalla (N64 had western dream team with Rare ect) Got crushed by the PlayStation Dumb design decisions (wii u was underpowered, N64 used carts)
It wouldn't be the worst decision I've owned one since day one sure it's not been played every day otherwise I'd have prob finished with it by now but it's got some great games I intend to finish off all my physical stuff and keep it fully digital minus maybe smash bros in the disc drive ;) Got Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3 and Wind Waker all stored on the Minimal internal memory but when Nintendo compress their stuff so well it can be managed... Or just get a cheap flash drive I've got Metroid Trilogy and Nintendo land on mine all the rest is on the console 10+ NES 10+ SNES, 8 N64, couple of GBA games, a DS game. Sure 32gb isn't massive but it's doable unless your going for some of the uncompressed third party stuff. The catalogue of games is awesome if you like you Mario's Mario karts Zelda and just fun games all around smash bros bayonetta 2, Lego city undercover pikmin 3. VC is also a winner enough to keep you busy for another year or so see how NX pans out I'll be grabbing one day one I'm pretty certain as can't beat a new day one Nintendo console as always different and fun, Wii was probably my least favourite but gonna struggle to get rid of my Wii U with its digital library. Also wait a month or so at least sure you'll start seeing some fantastic sub £199 console and couple of games deals in the next 6-9 months as they prepare to move to NX. They haven't announced Wii U is being discontinued yet tho so think it's got a good year in it.. Besides Nintendo stuff keeps its prices Very well look at launch copies of new super Mario Bros £30ish when you go get the Nintendo selects version with Luigi DLC for around £15?.. Madness but the collectors love their Nintendo stuff I know I did or so it's the main stuff I collect gaming wise and Nintendo is class through and through, lost me a bit around GameCube Wii years but I'm back and loving every minute, I have spare in between work life, ps4 and vita ;) vitas not been used for a while but again digital library is stacked so going nowhere. All rammed with the classics. Grab one on the cheap look after it and once Nintendo say that's it in what 12 months max then watch the prices sky rocket... Gonna be Nintendos rarest home console as all clear well over 20 million in the past Wii U is currently a good 6 million short of that. It's not about the money tho it's about the quality value for money and great games you'll get... Nintendos got you covered with Wii U. Gaming ramble over but always happy to big up good stuff, sure not perfect but give me this gaming greatness from Nintendo over yearly churns any day of the week.
If it had better games and more games from third party devs and if Nintendo would quite censoring stuff or always treating us like we're children that need to shunned from the horrors of the world maybe it would sell better.
Sony censors games more than Nintendo does. Go away troll.
to a nintendo die hard i bet. But thats an isolated market in regards to gamer appeal as a whole. So the article states its the most underrated console and the answer is no.
I love the Wii U. Quite frankly Wii U still overall has a better library than X1 and PS4. Software sales speak to that. Software is selling. It is a great system. N4G is infested with Nintendo hating trolls. Let them hate, we can enjoy the software :) At the very least Wii U will be thought of better than Vita or Dreamcast were. Sold a fraction of what the Wii U has softwarewise.
* Wii U has about 10-15 absolutely amazing/awesome games to play. Aside from that, there isn't much to get excited about. Take those 10-15 games and add them to any console and along with the normal 3rd party support and it is an instant classic. * This is why I think the NX will do at least 2-3 times as good as the Wii U. It will have the 3rd party support.
It's a great system but not most underrated ever. You might want to look at Turbografx16 and Saturn. They had just as many fantastic games as anyone of the time (many would be instant classics if known more) but just for various reasons didn't sell enough to be in the same competition. PC Engine did well in Japan but not the west. Same for Saturn. Because of that some of the systems best games are in Japan. SS was an RPG machine and Fighting game machine. Princess Crown(technically Vanillaware first game) and Shining Force III and Gaurdian Heroes and the best ports of Capcom fighting games then and so much more. TG16 had the best version of Ys at the time,Xanadu and Castlevania Rondo of Blood and more. Wii U is underappreciated this gen but there is a few systems out there even more so. Of the 3 I mentioned 2 of them failed because they failed with the system hardware.
Until Rockstar releases games (and a couple others have promise like Yooka-Laylee)...the 3rd party games this generation are crazy overrated or terrible...lol
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I own a wii u and I really regret buying it, Super Mario 3d world is a great game though. Question - Why would I ever play a non-exclusive Wii U title when I own two more powerful consoles and a masterrace PC that's better than all 3? There's almost no reason to own a wii u aside from a few games, I haven't even turned it on in almost half a year.
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