Gamemoir’s Nick D. makes a case for Final Fantasy XIII being the pinnacle of the series in this thirteenth segment of a 14 part feature “Every Final Fantasy is the Best Final Fantasy“.
GAH!! FF-13 is the worse in the series, nothing about that game was memorable and even though I finished 1 and 2 I couldn't stomach how absurd and awful 3 was. Back to Gamefly that shit game went with an angry letter attached telling how I hated it and how dare they send that game to me!
I heard the horror stories lol I'm not sure how FF13 makes anyone's top list of anything other then bad games. I heard the story was as confusing as could be.
The story wasn't really confusing at all. I think the problem is you heard that from easily confused people.
Now about Final Fantasy XIII...It really wasn't my favorite. You didn't really click with many of the characters, if any. I liked the combat system later in the game where it just sort of comes together, but the linearity does detract from the overall experience. If you can stomach the early sections and get to Chapter...11, I think, that's where the game actually feels like Final Fantasy. If the whole game compared to that part, I think it'd be a much better experience. I'd give it a 6.5/10, possibly 7.
I'd just like to point out that the corridor nature makes sense.
Cocoon is literally a "man made" (Fal'cie made) object created to breed humans. It's like an office building small narrow corridors, with open spaces for rooms (the cities). When you get to the actual planet (Gran Pulse) it's a huge open area. The developers tried to explain this many times but people just couldn't understand the story or were like Edmix who just talked crap without even playing the game.
If people had actually played the game and had the brains to actually understand the story this wouldn't have even been an issue.
This must be a dudebro that started gaming with the Call of Duty series. Final Fantasy was a linear pos that took essential elements out of the BEST Final Fantasies
FF13 is hands down the worst game in the franchise. Even the microtransaction riddled mobile games are better than FF13. There is so much wrong with FF13 one could probably write multiple articles on each point alone.
Dude you dont know what you talking about at all. For the first part of the game yes you are right. But later its gets way better. And to be honest every ff game is about mashing 1 button, the attack button. Unless you are fighting a boss. Dont bash ff13 for something the entire series is guilty of.
Say what you want, the game was linear and boring except gran pulse, but then again, it was suffering just getting to that point. It was by far the worst entry in the series that did not deserve a trilogy in any sense. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings, but ff13 is regarded by the majority as the worst FF of all time. Haters going to hate, but hey, it's the truth. Prove to me otherwise.
Of all the Final Fantasy games I've played this is hands down the worse. Combat and graphics were great but everything else was terrible. No exploration, game over if the main character died, and way too linear.
The amount of people that don't even read is staggering.
I thought this whole excercise going through the series was very creative. Too bad people just comment without even bothering to check what they are commenting on...
Yeah, but its N4G headline is pretty clickbaity, and we know people don't bother reading what the articles are about, straight to comments and bashing the opinion.
Agreed and like all things in life It's subjective for sure. But when it comes to popularity 3, 7 and 10 seem to be the most talked about. Clearly everyone will have their own favorites.
I really enjoyed it. The combat system was good. And The artwork was stellar. It's really a stop to look around kind of game. And the story was really good especially when you look back at it after playing the series.
I'm looking forward to 15. But I am not sure any FF game will ever have the budget as the first 13 game did. And the best part about it was no DLC, the disk I bought had everything in the game on the disk that alone makes it good for me.
I enjoyed FF-XIII as well.Imo I thought they should have left it alone after the original,there was no need for 2 & 3,if they needed to continue the story after 13 they should had done a straight to blue-ray cg movie instead.
I enjoyed FFXIII as well, enough to complete it twice, but I agree with you that they should have left it at that. XIII-2 improved upon XIII in the exploration department, but the story. Ugh. PARADOX. PARADOX. PARADOX. And that "to be continued" ending. I was like WHAT?! I didn't bother buying Lightning Returns, so I just watched the ending on youtube instead which was, to be fair, a pretty good ending.
Kurisu you should play 13-3. It's pretty fun and it offers unique gameplay and challenges. Plus you can get it super cheap for both PS3 or on PC especially with the Steam summer sale coming soon. It's kinda a shame you spoiled it for yourself.
So.....they suckered you good bro, the real story in FFXIII is finished in XIII 2 and XIII 3 as full priced games...
Oh they didn't have DLC, the just had the rest of the game divided into XIII-2 and XIII-3. Sounds to me like you are merely ignorantly happy about the perception of having " everything in the game on the disk " LMFAO!
You know this how? You work at Square? You saw their computers and had a whole task force to look up what was on their drives and servers? You know nothing more about any of FFXIII's content after it was done then anyone other consumer. I think its funny that you even have this strange comfort in this believe that you got "everything in the game" lol.
Yes...you got " everything in the game on the disk" that was suppose to be on the disk called FFXIII.
Square the publisher and owner of that IP determines that. Did you not know that applies to all publishers/developers?
You are NEVER going to know what was suppose to be in a games final "disk" as you don't work their. What is "final" to them, is the content they release on the disk when its done.
You don't own the IP or company, thus....what they left out of any game is irrelevant to you as a consumer if you were never promised it in the first place.
You seem to only be fine with the mere ignorance of the believe that you got " everything in the game on the disk " yes bud....everything that you know of.
You are blissfully happy about the perception of completion. So never mind DLC, lets just release those expansions as full on sequels as it seems you'll feel better if they are packaged this way lol
CDPR very much could have just released something called Witcher 3-2 or Wicher 3-3 etc lol
Both XIII sequels are actually shorter then FFXIII, but hey, what ever helps you sleep at night. Why worry about DLC when they will just sell you the rest of the game as sequels?
W/E man. I assume you're just not old enough to remember when every game came complete.
If you want to have content cut and pay $60 for disk then even more for a key to unlock content already on the disk then another $40-50 for season passes with more DLC on top of that plus microtransactions added in that's your business. EA will be happy to cut content and sell you all the DLC and microtransactions you want we all know how much you love them... But I got news for you the prime of gaming was before DLC was even invented.
But this kind of reply is exactly what I expect from you. Always defending the nickel and diming and even bribery of media outlets in every article, then arguing with anyone who actually remembers how gaming was before DLC or just wants the best value for their money.
Anyways keep being the "True Gamer" you are and buy every DLC blindly and belittling anyone who dares speak out about DLC and Microtransactions!
I'll keep being w/e ever you consider people who love classic games from Nintendo thru PS2 and old PC games from before you were even born.
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I actually took the time to read your spew. Your complaining about the length of FF13? The game is 55 GB to download it fills a blu-ray it's the largest game on PS3. And just beating it takes 60-80 hours and many people spend 200 to platinum the game. And 13-2 also offers 40-60 hours of gameplay just to beat and 70-90 to platinum. 13-3 was short (if you call 20 hours short that is) but if you actually played the game instead of just foaming at the mouth you'd understand that it's the end of the world so the game has a built in timer. Which is actually kind of an awesome idea when looked at through the lense of the entire series. No other game series has ever done anything like that
The worst part about what you said isn't even the DLC part but the fact your talking about something you know nothing about having admitted you never even played the games. I disagree with everything you say but this is probably the worst showing you have made.
@Ashlen- "W/E man. I assume you're just not old enough to remember when every game came complete"
? Because we didn't get versions of SF2 in 1992,1993,1994 and so on?
Software has no real definitive understanding of "complete" other then what the developer tells you. Its release is what one could define as "complete" to a degree of.
We got post launch content of Doom II, Diablo, Age Of Empires (my first expansion I ever bought lol) even with some of the N64 games, we got extras when they got ported like with Zelda OoT having a lost temple for the Gamecube version.
My point is a game is only as complete as its final release.
"If you want to have content cut and pay $60"
How is it cut if it was never suppose to release in the final game in the first place?
" EA will be happy to cut content and sell you all the DLC" Buddy...pretty sure any company would, but at this stage, why would they be "cut" content if its actually ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE DLC?
SO they are just making a long game then cutting? Why not just make the DLC with another team? I jokenly say that as that is how DLC is made most times. DICE LA and Visceral did some of the DLC for BF4....it was not part of the main game because DICE LA nor Visceral worked on BF4 during its development, only after.
So if they will always have DLC, there is not need to cut that in which was planned to never be given in the base game in the first place.I don't even disagree that it likely happens, merely that if we are going to have gens FULL OF DLC, don't you get that it can't actually be "cut" if they are now making it for the SOLE reason to sell as DLC?
Could you not say this about ALL publishers that have post launch content though? You won't know if DLC is part of the "main game" any more then you would know if FFXIII2 and 3 were ever part of FFXIII.
"Anyways keep being the "True Gamer" you are and buy every DLC blindly" Ironically...I don't really buy lots of DLC lol I don't think I've bought 1 DLC this entire generation.
Not all my views are based on what I personally buy.
The point I'm merely making is you nor I will ever know what is part of the "final" game or a real extra.
Its not even our game or company to even decide so why kill yourself over the perception of "full"?
We'll never know, but we do know that games often released with lots of content left on the floor. All I can say is, save you're money and get the GOTY versions or something.
You get more content, they get less money from you, everyone wins.
"Your complaining about the length of FF13?" No.
I'm merely comparing it to the sequels. I'm not sure why you think that is "complaining" I"m merely proving that its sequels could be regarded as "DLC" if released that way.
Not complaining at its length at all, was not attacking how long it was, not relevant to the point I was making.
"The worst part about what you said isn't even the DLC part but the fact your talking about something you know nothing about having admitted you never even played the games"
What does that have to do with the point being made? I don't need to play FFXIII or like it to use the example that I used regarding if FFXIII2 or 3 was part of the first game. The point being made is we will never know in the first place.
Please explain how all the DLC that is already on the disk when you buy it isn't content cut to be sold as DLC?
To use EA as an example Mass Effect 3 the Prothean crew member in which all the characters clearly had dialog and there were basic elements of the game that had queues that pointed to obviously missing content if you didn't have the "LAUNCH DAY" DLC? Or how about the Aria DLC where she flat out tells you to come back later through the whole game. Clearly that content was cut from the game to be sold as DLC.
By your logic, gaming companies can start selling you blank disks for $60 that simply allow you to buy DLC as long as they say the empty disk is complete.
You can defend DLC till you're blue in the face but the fact is games have gotten shorter and DLC has gotten more prevalent and more expensive. These days to get a complete game you have to spend $100+
I guess you want a future where the ends of games is sold as DLC like Asura Wrath Or progress is so slow that you have to buy DLC and microtransactions just to get the type of unlockables that used to just be included in the game like Dead Space 3.
You and your views just make gaming worse and are the reason companies are exploiting and nickel and diming gamers so badly. It's really a shame that people like you exist, if people had just said no to DLC and refused to buy it from the beginning things would have been so much better like they were in the past.
Oh and expansion packs in the past were way different than the crap DLC and microtransactions they have today, most expansions from back in the day were practically full games that just used the same engine to lower development costs.
Please explain how all the DLC that is already on the disk when you buy it isn't content cut to be sold as DLC?"
Were did I ever defend that? I merely stated that its unknown, never said anything about "already on the disk".
To be upset about content that legally isn't yours and was never promised to you, is no different then being mad at FFXIII 2 or 3 if we were to say that was suppose to be in FFXIII.
You nor I will ever know, thus.....who cares?
"Oh and expansion packs in the past were way different than the crap DLC and microtransactions they have today"
Not really. Its still post launch content, only thing that has really changed has been the distribution method.
"You and your views just make gaming worse and are the reason companies are exploiting and nickel and diming gamers so badly"
You don't need to buy DLC bud, I normally don't buy DLC....I've yet to buy ANY DLC this entire gen, last gen I think I only bought DLC 3 times.
For Fallout 3, Call Of Duty 4 and BFBC2. I'm merely saying you nor I, once again will NEVER know were that content came from, if it was ever going to be in the final game and my example with FFXIII is merely saying, if you feel this way about DLC, you might as well feel this way about entire sequels.
Could you once again not argue that FFXIII2 and 3 ARE the REST of FFXIII?
"most expansions from back in the day were practically full games" lol like FFXIII2 or XIII3?
"These days to get a complete game you have to spend $100+" Yes...like how you have to spend $180 to play FFXIII FULLY!
Do you not get the point I'm making? Why stop at "DLC" when you can say this about any sequel? When does it end? When do you get this um "full game"? If you are basically saying any post launch content was suppose to be the full game, why does FFXIII2 and FFXIII3 get a pass when Square just fooled you BETTER by just re-packaging and calling it "XIII 2"? How do you know it wasn't um "Cut" ? You mad now? Does that make you change how you feel about FFXIII? THEY BURNED YOU BRO! /s
edit- lol more salt? Do you even have a real point about DLC other then emotional butthurt? "I'm done" buddy, you never even started. Your entire argument is based on entitlement of the rights of content you don't legally own. Personal and emotional post are pretty much irrelevant and only further my point that its not based on logic or real law or anything like that.
Merely pure entitled salt. Call me when you have a real legal case against content, a company, copyright and IP you don't legally own.... Grow up and merely buy what you like. You have no rights over another companies content, read your EULA bud. The IP isn't owned by you to even waste time tearing up about something that isn't your own.
Edmix so much of what you just said is just flat out wrong to cover up for your stupid point of view, and just to keep this argument going.
I'm done.
Anyone who actually is still in this thread I encourage you to read what this guy said and remember who said it into the future so when you see his posts you'll know what this guy is all about.
P.S. I had to block him because he kept PM'ing me after I asked him to stop.
This game has the least amount of exploration so there really was no "looking around". Some of the older 2D backdrop games I think looked better than 13. Waaaaaaaaaaaaayy too linear. Makes me wonder what the hell they spent that money on. Surely wasn't to make a good game.
That's really not true, it depends what you're looking for. What I'm talking about is things like watching the roller coaster travel around the track or watching the different aircraft flying around in the zones. To things like looking at the detail in the textures on things and taking the time to listen to the comments by the NPC in the various zones who actually have a lot of flavor speech to explain why they are scared of the L'cie.
The Graphics and the sountrack https://www.youtube.com/wat... were great, but everything else was arse. I remember i traded in bc2 for this game,what a huge mistake.
This article is part of a series arguing for each game in the series. 13 is certainly not the best FF, but the author had to argue it's case to finish this series.
N4G is trying hard to send me away to other pages really. The sillyness and absurdity of the latest articles is getting to a point of no return for me.
They either filter this type of shit or im gone for good.
Someone woke up in different Universe.. FFXIII is by far almost at the bottom of respectful and quality as far as Final Fantasy titles are concerned . It's perfectly fine that you're loving the XIII the most however rest assured by critics and gamers who actually played others FF titles for the last 20+ years you will be in serious minority with that claim..
Worthy of a click back article to stir up fans in anger? Not really..
I say this to anybody about these games, it's not a good ff by any means but it sure is a fun rpg thay everyone who plays it thinking of it as just another rpg will love it
I'm 33 years old. I'm dinosaur time on my gaming life i think :) And I beat every single Final Fantasy games since 89-90s. And i can tell honestly Final Fantasy XIII series most annoying and bad games on series. Millions of JRPG lovers says same thing. After FFXIII Square-Enix gets bad days on gaming markets. And they still suffering from financial issues. Even they start making old PS1 and PS2 Final Fantasy games porting or remastering to PS4, PC and Xbox One platform and they saw one real reason. No ones want the new action RPG Final Fantasy games. People wants same Final Fantasy games with better graphics and technology on their new game platforms. For me FFXIII it was nightmare for real base dinosaur Final Fantasy and old school JRPG fans. But it was good start for teens and action Rpg standards.
An opinion this outlandish is just clickbait in my eyes. By all means, you can love something I personally think is garbage, but in terms of comparing it to the franchise that is Final Fantasy, calling it "the best" just makes me think you're daft.
Though folks may not agree & I don't care if they don't but personally FF-XIII is one of my top favorite FF games & I've played majority of them going back to the SNES days.The game definitely had it's flaws from traditional FF games as far as a crazy story but I got what they were trying to convey.Not controlling all characters & when the lead died it was game over which was frustrating.The summons were limited (only 6) weak & look like transformers but they still looked badass when you summoned them.There were no towns but they were fugitives they had no time to stop at towns to shop & lollygag around.The production as all FF games was top notch,the graphics,the world design,beautiful soundtrack & imo Lightning was a badass female protagonist.The game should have started & ended with FF-XIII alone imo there was no need for 2 more games which I thought were not that great at all.
This kid must not be that old. If I had nothing to compare 13 to then I might say it was an "ok" game, and that just me being nice. I didn't like it to be honest. Played and played until it became "open world". Then played to the end at was disappointed as h3ll.
Actually it is the best. The best at being the worst
In my opinion, FFXIII is easily the best in the series. FFX is the only other entry entry that comes close. All the final fantasies I've played have been boring and absolute chores to get through. Mind numbing slogs. Hell, FFXIII is the best rpg ever made, period. Maybe even best game too.
*falls down*
GAH!! FF-13 is the worse in the series, nothing about that game was memorable and even though I finished 1 and 2 I couldn't stomach how absurd and awful 3 was. Back to Gamefly that shit game went with an angry letter attached telling how I hated it and how dare they send that game to me!
Go home Nick Doyle, you're drunk
I am seriously done with this argument...
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Liked the combat system
PFFFFFFFFFFF LMAO!!