Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End Review – Thank God It’s A Thief’s End | XO.TV

Mike from XO.TV digs into Uncharted 4... he doesn't like what he finds.

[dp277407]

You do realize that Neil Druckman was one of the main guys responsible for Uncharted 2. so its not his first outing with Uncharted and his first amazing hit wasn't The Last of Us. You have a right to this opinion as always but you sound new to the series more so then the people you are trying to convey this piece to.

[naruga]

attention-whore site ..nothing to see here ..just clueless people with games try to create turmoil for clicks ..

[dp277407]

i Wasn't gonna respond but I could just tell he was trying to use things that really shouldn't apply and then the Dark souls review kinda irked me as well but at least next time they write a piece it'll be worked around with my reading comprehension in mind.

[senorfartcushion]

Clueless? It is an opinion piece. You can say whatever you want as long as that's how you feel.

You aren't going to get much yraffic for giving a game a less-than-average review because guess what? They are allowed to do that.

[GamingIVfun]

Uncharted 4 is not a 6 out of 10 game no matter the persons opinion. Giving this game a 6 mean either you have no clue what makes a good game, just another sleazy sight trying to get cheap hits, Uncharted 4 is not the type of game you normally play or would like anyway (probably shouldn't be reviewing it), or you have an agenda (like trying to lower the metacritic score like people are doing with user scores). Don't tell me so called journalist don't sometimes have agendas or aren't fanboys, that would be untrue.

No one is going to take a 6 out of 10 score for Uncharted 4 seriously. People are entitled to their opinion but when they are this far off, I have to question them.

What does XO.TV stand for ?

[SavingPvt_Highon]

Yup lol, its sad really.

[MattE]

What's the problem with these PS fans.. Not everyone has to like the game.. Same for EVERY title released.. Deal with it. Some people think it's more of the same - average

[celiamoontown]

Yet you contribute with a comment.. Also please do not normalize derogatory terms that insult women.

[joab777]

@GamingIVfun....well said. There are opinion pieces (cough, cough IGN), and there are trolling hit pieces. Thats what this is.

[AnubisG]

You said it naruga. That is what they are attention-whores. Look at that title and it's clear.

So having said that, how do I down-vote a site now? Can't seam to find that option in the new layout. This is a website that has no business on n4g.

[Erik7357]

Damn I like Uncharted 4 but I can tell someone is a little but hurt about this reviewer's opinion.

You can putting a rating at art so I never really care for reviews honestly.

[Letthewookiewin]

Dude that wrote this. You're a moron. Stop trying to write anything immediately and hand over the crayons you 1st drafted this crap with. Change careers, oh, but do have a wonderful life.

[Rachel_Alucard]

Then quit responding to them so they are forced to change careers. Everytime a big new heavily marketed AAA 9/10 goes through review sites there's ALWAYS going to be those handful of no-name sites that feed on rage fuel and the responses they get don't matter as long as people keep clicking on their site. It's exactly like DSP where he gets hundreds of thousands of views yet all he does is make people rage in the comments. He does that on purpose because nobody watches an average player, especially when he blames the game instead of himself. Just like how this article blames it for being too similar to its predecessors, yet never offers up what parts are similar.

[opinionated]

He wasn't the director in uncharted 2. He wasn't a decision maker he was a writer. The difference is night and day.

[dp277407]

yea I didn't say what he did, only he was involved. so a great game then even greater game but now a 'bad' game.

[opinionated]

@dp
That's a major factor though. Being a director is a completely different role. I'm one of the few who liked uncharted 2's pacing more. It wasn't because of him is all I'm saying. The last of us pacing in u4 is because of him because he was the director this time.

[dp277407]

I understand what your saying, Just the way he wrote it made it seem like he was never involved at all in Uncharted.

[IIFloodyII]

He was a lead game designer and him, Amy and Josh Scherr worked on the writing. He 100% made decisions.

*Edit:
@below

Not having final say doesn't mean he didn't make decisions, yeah he'd have to run it past Bruce or Amy, but if you think 1 of the 2 lead game designers and 1 of the 3 writers didn't make decisions, you are clueless.

Also Druckmann had nothing to do with Uncharted 3, he was busy with The Last of Us during it's development.

As for your action thing, it's definitely toned down, but I would highly recommend finishing the game if you haven't. Uncharted 4 has some of the best action bits of the series, it's just almost all of it is saved for the second half. Also you are forgetting Bruce Straley, he was just as responsible for the crazy action parts of Uncharted 2, as Amy, maybe even more due to him being Game Director of 2.

[opinionated]

@floody
He 100% did not make decisions. He did help with the writing/guiding the team and I give him credit for that. Uncharted 2's characters were exceptional, it blew the first uncharted out of the water. But the fact remains that he didn't have the final say on anything he brought to the table.

You can tell druckman's work. It's more cerebral and slow paced. He's atmosphere not action. He's more of a movie writer than a game writer IMO. For example, the kid drake scene in uncharted 3 where you wander around the museums and such, it has druckman written all over it. You can just tell he had a bigger role in the 3rd. The last of us is nothing but that because he was the director, he had the final say, it's his game. Uncharted 4 is the same. It still has its action sequences but he only put those in because he had to as an existing franchise IMO. The action definitely took bad seat and was toned down. I think Amy is a great action game writer and her final say made the difference. She knew how to use druckman's work better than he did. But that's just a humble opinion.

[OrangePowerz]

I think you look at it from a movie perspective where it's more like one person rules over all the others. Games don't work that way and are in large a team effort where you don't just have one person ruling over the opinion of all the others.

[miyamoto]

LoL!

Uneducated author & opinion.

Bruce Straley is the game director of Uncharted 2, The Last of Us and Uncharted 4.

This review is a complete failure.

[Aceman18]

Oh guys let this guy have his opinion it's ok, he's just a sad individual looking for attention for his no named site lol. If he thinks this game is that bad I guess he's never played a great game before lol.

[joab777]

Somebody had to be the one to do this and get a ton of hits. Not everyone/everything is Steph Curry.

That said, I just started, on Chapter 6 I think, and this game is remarkable. I'm an rpg/mmo guy, having spent the last 6 wks on Dark Souls 3, but I love Uncharted. Something about it that is amazing! It is everything that is right about video games. I was simply in awe at the beginning.

And yes, I do play PC. So hats off to a console game that is breathtaking!!

[dp277407]

Also just read the Dark Souls 3 review I'm pretty sure you wrote and you listed almost the exact same points and sounds like a copy and paste job on the negative's but it gets an 85. This whole website sounds and feels like an actual bot made it. Mike is happy, Mike is tired, Mike is AI.

[XOTV]

Hello dp277407,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to our review, we really appreciate it! My name is Joshua, I'm the EiC of XO.TV, and I just wanted to take some time to address some of your issues:

- With regard to Neil Druckman: Being a Lead Designer is significantly different from being a Game Director. When Mike talked about Neil in this review, he was talking about how Neil would lead the directorial focus of the game. As a Game Director Neil is responsible for the whole direction of the game, as a lead designer Neil's role would be solely designated to over-seeing the game's static design... not the direction of the game's tone, story or core gameplay loop.

- I can guarantee you that Mike is not new to the Uncharted series. The core theme of his Uncharted 4 review is that the game is far too similar to it's predecessors, whilst adding unpolished and unneeded elements in an attempt to refine the formula.

- The Dark Souls III review is quite different from the Uncharted 4 review both from a tonal and content perspective. In the Uncharted 4 review Mike very clearly expressed his frustration with the various elements that make up the game (story, gameplay, thematic etc) and how they clash with each other. In the Dark Souls III review Mike expressed satisfaction with the core gameplay, and the game's various elements, but has issues with the stale formula and design inconsistencies.

I can also assure you that Mike isn't a bot! He's a very talented writer who I couldn't be more proud of. Here at XO.TV we encourage writers to be subjective when writing their reviews, however they need to ensure that they back up their opinion. In both reviews Mike does this. I'm sure if a programmer could produce content to the same standards as Mike review, we'd all be doomed!

Once again, thank you for taking the time to respond to our review. We'll take your feedback to heart when we produce our next review, as well as be sure to take into account your reading comprehension ability.

Kind regards,
Joshua

[Germany7]

You are a hipster.

[bouzebbal]

yawn.....
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/...

[kowan]

No, being a lead designer is NOT just overseeing the "static" design of a game. A game designer designs and oversees levels, AI's, layouts/interface, story transitions, game features(modes and all that), animation, cutscenes, sounds, pretty much what you see in the actual game itself and how it will work. It's as big and as important as a game director's job. You mistake a game designer for a character or and environment artist which a lead game designer also oversees. Don't try arguing about game development positions when you have little knowledge about it.

[Gazondaily]

You don't get it. The horde will only see the score. Everything else is white noise.

[TFJWM]

@XOTV "we encourage writers to be subjective when writing their reviews,"

I would think when you have a review you would want them to be objective not subjective...You seem to say you want your reviews to be bias as long as they "back it up" to you, which comes down to being subjective again...

Now objectively, it is easy to see the review and how you seem to justify it is sh*t

[Picnic]

Mike is inconsistent. Uncharted 4's Goonies meets Romancing the Stone vibe which I felt in some chapters is 'new' as such or signicantly expands upon the Drake's Fortune aesthetic. A large meeting (auction) is new. Sam is new. The villains' motivations are new. The grapple hook and crampon are new to this series. The 4x4 vehicle and boat are new in terms of being fully controllable. But Mike hated the 4x4 , he didn't fully appreciate the brilliance of the subtle humour in the dialogue and he doesn't respect the gunplay scenarios as the tense puzzles they can be if on Hard or Crushing. His 6.0 might be sincerely held for his tastes but a true Uncharted fan could not , I am confident, think at the end of this game that the artistry, gameplay, characterisation, puzzles, story, level design and sound design all added up to 6/10.

[Cohagen420]

Lol spew all the bs you want, but this was a clickbait article designed to generate traffic to your no name site, how bout that for a succinct review?

[dp277407]

I still think Mike's a bot.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

I have yet to see a reviewer having a problem with the story. How do they clash with each other really?

Sorry if the good writing of this review doesn't fool me. Anyone could grasp onto the least problematic thing to try to drag a score down. 6.0?

Nah! Game is much better than that. His frustration seems to be his own problem.

Have a good day!

[trooper_]

The review was inconsistent and not objectionable. This game deserves more than a 60.

[PistolsAtDawn]

Please don't use facts or logical thinking here, esp when pointing out that ND is made up of humans and is therefore not godly or perfect. The mob here doesn't wish to hear that. If you gave the game 9.9/10 they would want to lynch you. There is a very unfounded bias on this site. Sony is a great company and UC is a great game series, but if you say anything remotely negative about either on this site....some people go straight to lynch mode.

[the_mack_attack3]

You're obviously trying to produce clicks from shock value.

[Theangrybogan]

Did you just essentially write an article in a comment section to defend a terrible review. Wow. You can't see that as a problem? U think anyone's gonna read that and be convinced your sites anything but clickbate? Maybe you're just a bot too!

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

@Pistols

"but if you say anything remotely negative about either on this site....some people go straight to lynch mode."

Says the guy who has been bitter for weeks because Uncharted4 had got better reviews than Quantum Break... Lol

[Playable_Gamez]

You know a site wrote a bad review when they come in the comment section to damage control. Lol

[rainslacker]

Right. So you're saying half this review/rant is meaningless due to Mike's lack of knowledge(or misunderstanding if you want to be nice) on how games are designed or produced?

Thanks for clearing that up in the first paragraph.

Speaking of which, why does the previous games director/designer/whatever have anything to do with this game, and why wasn't this game reviewed on it's own merits, with the only comparisons made based on how it compared to the rest of the series in regards to improvements and set backs.

There were plenty of things which could have been used to criticize the game play, and possibly story which would be more subjective, and downrate the game accordingly, yet they don't get a mention. The reason those things don't bother me is because the experience as a whole made up for them, and ultimately were just minor annoyances in particular situations. The things used to downrate this game seem rather superficial, and way too subjective to form a review that is meaningful in any way.

[sammarshall102]

Much respect for not being afraid of giving it the score you think it deserves

[generic-user-name]

Enjoy your 15 minutes.

[saint_seya]

I always wondered why those so called hacker groups bring down psn or xbox live when they could do a better service for the community and just bring sites like yours down.

[Razzer]

"We'll take your feedback to heart when we produce our next review, as well as be sure to take into account your reading comprehension ability. "

Seriously? You were doing fine up until that cheap potshot. Grow up, dude.

[redknight80]

You seriously are a piece of shit and you have just lost your website many potential visitors with this stupid as hell comment of yours, congratulations!

[b3ast]

Joshua stfu lame site ever.

[joeorc]

So a 60% out of a max 100% THAN that IS Fantastic! I will be quite intrigued to see what game passes uncharted 4 in a % out of 100 on your site..it should be very interesting to say the least..

you are telling the consumer by the review of your writer that NaughtyDog deserves grade of a D..fabulous. .what game I wonder is getting a higher grade than uncharted 4 by his standards..?

[Whirlwind_Fanfare_08]

You are pathetic as ****!

[MagicBeanz]

If Mike is a talented writer you're proud of, there's little hope for your site.

[starchild]

Did you even read the review? I don't agree with his overall opinion of the game, but the review itself is well written and he actually makes his points very well. It made me think --something few reviews do-- about what exactly it is that makes me like the Uncharted games.

[Genuine-User]

I don't know about dp277407 but I did. After reading the review and it’s summary, I must say I disagree with almost every "issue" the reviewer had with the game.

It reads like an unnecessary rant.

"A beautiful game which has its moments, but otherwise painfully slow and mediocre. Quite possibly the most overrated game ever made."

What the fu** is this shit?

[dp277407]

Of course I did. I say he sounds like a bot only cause I read more of his material after this review to try and see if any bias was leaking out because why the irrational rant but nope he seems genuine so far as he doesn't directly bash anything for any particular reason other then a review, but if you read other stuff on his page it just seems like a robot wrote it.

[Ricegum]

Starchild

Of course you think he makes his points very well. You're an Xbox troll.

[PistolsAtDawn]

No time....straight to "discredit mode"

[Sparta07]

Lmao... Starchild GTFO!! You were crying on every QB review because of low scores. Now you're happy cause it a Sony exclusive. Uncharted is not in anyway a 6.0, sorry I know reviews are just opinions but he's just looking for hits.

[Germany7]

Yeah right, we know how neutral you really are, lol.

[dafegamer]

A person who ends its review with "quite possibly the most overrated game ever made" is probably someone who saw all the perfect scores the game got, and played the game with giving it a bad score in mind in the first place .
He just wants to start a flame war, with unprofessional bullshit like that. He is basically saying that 97% of other reviewers who gave the game high score are wrong, and he is right in giving it a 6/10.
He sounds like those xbox fanboys who say there is a media bias in a favor of Sony :/

[joeorc]

Yes it did..the fact that this site gave the game a 60% out of 100% kinda gives you pause on any credibility that site has on what makes a game playable or not.

The fact is he gave the game a D?

Almost a F, and if uncharted 4 deserves a D or almost an F a failure of a game in his eyes , what games does he think deserves higher than Uncharted4.

Look no one is saying you cannot have an opinion..thats not the point , its when you trying to claim somthing and that claim is pretty out there and goes against pretty much every other site out there the games playability.

The other stuff is his opinion, but with such a score he is pretty climing it to be pretty much unplayable with a 60% out of 100. SIZABLE TIME IN GAME PLAY WITH SUCH A SCORE.

He is claiming that 40% of the time there is something that breaks this games ability to be played..

Giving a game of 60 out of 100 rating is quite clear his assessment. Doing so you have to look at why you would give a game that rating and if in effect would that break the games ability to be played.
The game on its own merits of playability is far and away not a broken game..there is not any big issue in ability to play the game

[remixx116]

Lol everyone's entitled to there own opinion and all that fuzz but I can tell you I just got to Madagascar and this game is phucking nuts, I literally have no idea how this is a 6 out of 10. Like you just dug for reasons to give this score.

It's a 10 out of 10 for me so far but I can see why some people might swing for 8 out of 10 if they don't enjoy this kinda thing.

.....and that headline lol damn big homie.

[starchild]

I don't understand how someone could think Uncharted 4 is a 6, but then again I couldn't understand it when some people gave Quantum Break 5s or 6s either.

I don't put much stock in reviews. They're fundamentally subjective. I mean, I read them for entertainment value, just to see what someone else thought about a game and maybe get a hint as to whether I'll like a game, but I don't treat them as gospel.

[rainslacker]

I've finished the game myself. Currently on my Crushing play through working on getting the plat, and I could find more things to criticize about the game than any of these low reviews have brought to the table, whose only reasons for criticism is solely based on the series as a whole. I don't, because they're mostly just minor annoyances which occasionally affect game play.

It's like the actual flaws in the game play which do exist, or occasional story parts which some people may not be into aren't even worth mentioning, which seems odd, because they would be actual valid complaints. Maybe not enough to down rate it 3-4 points or more since the overall experience is exceptional, but with a game of this caliber, any review below a 7 is just fishing, because there is no way this game is just above average. One may not like it for a variety of reasons just like I'm not into GeOW due to it's setting motif's, but I can objectively note it's good and bad points and judge it based on what it does well, and how the overall experience comes together to form a cohesive whole.

[rivaldoo777]

Desperate clickbaits warning!! This is a silly review from a xbot

[Wallstreet37]

I won't even respond to this frivilous site, ill just hahahahahaha :) "sure your right"

[Tankbusta40]

Click bait, no way this game is less than an 8 on any scale. Alas video game journalism is all about shock and awe and clicks

[dragonopt1]

What a joke of a "review". This was by far the best Uncharted in graphics of course and story. Everyone knew who the bad guy was at the auction, why didn't they just kill him then and end the game right? It sounds like from the review he was looking for anything negative.

[rainslacker]

I love the people who delve too far into the logical fallacies which exist within a scripted story.

That being said, and to address the whole "why not kill him then" part(because I find it interesting), they didn't kill him right then and there because that's not their way of doing things. Despite what people claim, Drake isn't a cold blooded ruthless killer, and at the time, the bad guy wasn't exactly trying to kill them. He was hostile, but not homicidal. Heck, he wasn't even trying to kill them as much until very late in the game and even gave them several offers to back off. Trying to kill them was more on Nadine. Even when they were escaping it wasn't the bad guy who was shooting at them, it was the security of the auction. The bad guy only decided to try and kill them, or allow Nadine to do it after they stole the cross, but it wasn't until later that I think he finally wanted them dead.

All that being said the bigger logical fallacy to the story was why would the bad guy need a militant organization to help him find the treasure. Unlike the past UC games, his motivations weren't motivated by power or even greed, but rather recognition, and nothing in the story indicated that there was great conflict on finding this treasure that no one else was looking for except him. I could add to this, but not sure where you are in the game and don't want to give out any spoilers. Anyhow, all prior UC antagonist were either leaders of militant organizations, or had thugs to help them get what they wanted.

Despite that, the story was still good, and didn't take away from the game in any way.

[EazyC]

*let be preface this by saying I have no affiliation with this website or its owners

Dear XOTV,

Just from a sheer technical standpoint I cannot fathom how anyone could deem the game worth a meagre 6/10. I don't think it's as perfect as TLoU but still 9/10, easily.

However; I think the review itself is nicely written and you (much to my surprise) articulated all your points very well. I'm quick to write off outliers of universally-acclaimed games as shameless click-gathering efforts, but this was an exception.

The fact you referenced actual gameplay experience does give some credibility and credence to what you're saying, and I do reluctantly agree AI is sometimes frustrating in the action downtime. The humourous aside to a Columbo episode was also nicely done, refreshing to see something not written like some journo-droid. I have to say, this is one of the few reviews of this game I've read that had personal flair and character in prose. I don't know why, but the vast majority of game reviewers (who write for a LIVING) have —at best —a tenuous grip on the English language.

I sincerely hope this website doesn't get blacklisted for this review. Based on its own merits, it's one of the better ones I've read, and the ONLY "bad" review for this game that wasn't just a dirty attention-grab.

[aPerson]

I agree that the review is well written and articulated. I enjoyed the game so obviously I disagree with the author on most of their criticisms, but they do back up their arguments well. Why do fanboys lose their minds over other peoples opinions? I mean, if you enjoy the game, great; if not, oh well...

Just look at all the downvotes you're getting for defending a mixed review for a game you loved. Is this really what the gaming community is like??? Sad.

[Rachel_Alucard]

It's little kids with no sense of individuality who absolutely love feeling like they're on a side, so they deem something to be perfect for their team, and any downtalk of it means your on the opposing side. Like admitting to being an atheist to a christian preacher. People just can't understand that you can express negatives towards something you like/love without being against it altogether or you don't support something but you're not gonna turn around and downplay the other sides.

[SegaSaturn669]

This is a pretty bad review. It doesn't represent the game very well. He gets furious about an interaction where he couldn't figure out a simple puzzle. It happens, and if that's your response, maybe gaming is not for you. Reviewing definitely isn't.

This review didn't convey anything of value from the game. The communication utterly failed and you just get a rant from someone desperately seeking attention and it's painful and boring to read.

[rainslacker]

I felt the puzzles in this game were the simplest in the series. Not once was I sitting there wondering how to do one...although sometimes it took me a while to figure them out. There weren't even that many puzzles in the game. 4 I think.

[generic-user-name]

"Not once was I sitting there wondering how to do one...although sometimes it took me a while to figure them out."

Dat contradiction tho

[rainslacker]

Not really. Some puzzles it's not apparent what you're supposed to do. In this game, it was always apparent what you were supposed to do, or at least it could be deduced quickly. However, the actual solution derived from doing what you were supposed to do wasn't always that easy...although typically not overly hard. It's like knowing what you're supposed to do with a rubix cube. Just because you know, doesn't make it simple....unless you know the trick I guess.

[GamingIVfun]

Puzzles are suppose to be challenging and take time to figure out. No reward if they are to simple.

[rainslacker]

@GamingIV

Never said they shouldn't be, just that UC4 didn't have complicated puzzles compared to the other games.

[dafegamer]

the strange thing, how can a puzzle in Uncharted frustrate him, when its even worse in Dark Souls 3? DS3 gave you even less hints to go and where not to go.

[TricksterArrow]

Mike who from where again?

[NotanotherReboot]

No please no, now the Metacritic is gonna drop to 92

[LuckyChamCham]

Don't think this site is counted
Yeah it isn't :)

[Dark_Knightmare2]

This site isn't counted and I don't think this would have dropped it to 92 anyway

[Gazondaily]

Well this is gonna end well

[AmUnRa]

Come on septic, troll a bit harder, and, nobody believes you. Your more and more becoming the xboxtroll that you are again. Last time did not go so well after the disaster of a rand you wrote on your site an was defending it on N4G like you wrote a masterpiece.

[Gazondaily]

Wtf are you crying about?

[SpaceRanger]

Almost as well as your "unbiased" disaster of an article a while back. Not sure why you're still on this site? You're credibility (that many including myself had about you) as unbiased is pretty much a joke at this point.

[Gazondaily]

Forgive me for not taking the opinion of you little haters seriously at all. That article was an opinion piece and absolutely highlighted the sheer idiocy of the Sony contingent.

[TwoForce]

I'm still have a problem with your previous post. The one you posted that caused a lot of gamers hate. Not fanboy, gamer can feel angry. You brought your opinion for a wrong reason.

[Antifan]

This is hilarious. It's more of a joke than a serious review. Thanks for the laugh...oh wait, he was serious

[1nsomniac]

I'm all for arguing everyone's rights to their own opinion & I usually get crucified for it by the majority. But come on, this is just being silly for silly sake. It's not even worthy of the "troll" title. It's just a little sad that people would take the time out to do it.

There's plenty of AAA titles that get over praised by fan boys & paid media outlets but come on. There really needs no further explanation as to how stupid this is.

[Relientk77]

Joke review lol

[PS3and4_HAS_GAMES]

XO TV HUH?? Yeah I'll pass. No one will take you guys serious. Thank God I don't have to click.

[hirobrotagonist]

Don't want to go full ad hominem here, but the guy that wrote this review is a goddamn toolshed

[Night99]

I am really glad too that this will be Naughty Dogs last game of the Uncharted IP. This IP is so boring and bland to me and overrated to the point where it is not even funny to me. Naughty Dog has to much tallent for such a bland IP they are able to make really awesome games like they showed with the Crash Bandicoot games Jak and Daxter and with The Last of Us, I hope Naughty Dog will work on the Last of Us2 or an awesome new Jump and Run IP next.

[PSN_ZeroOnyx]

Yet they never said this was the last game for Uncharted, more specifically, they said this Nathan Drake's last adventure.

[Omnislashver36]

@PSN
Good, Nathan Drake is that 'perfect' kind of guy. Perfectly boring. The action is generic hollywood action. Banter isn't thoughtful, jokes are lame, and gameplay less than stellar for TPS. The graphics are ace but that's really all this game has got. It's a 6/10. And that's being generous because of the graphics.

[Immorals]

There's opinion, there's professional opinion and then there's just clickbait.

[BlakHavoc]

Game isn't for him but it's been highly praised so does his opinion matter? Ppl gotta calm down

[ThatOneRiggaNob]

Lol right? This is n4g at it's finest. They will preach the opinion card all day but when it's against something they like then all hell breaks loose.

[BlakHavoc]

People need validation and that's the obvious problem here lol.

[Kakashi Hatake]

Watch Metacritic count this and somehow miss all the other 10s and 9s.

[Picnic]

Madagascar's very nice but I'm a classic Drake's Fortune jungle and ruined, lush green cities and waterfalls, Nate fan. So the final few chapters AMAZED and humbled me in how they combined that aesthetic to the muddy, flooded max with Last of Us type old grandeur and UC2 like vertical scale. If Uncharted was ever your thing, 9.5 seems a good starting place, going up to 9.8. 0.5 off at most just because of annoyance stated in review of not being allowed to pick the right solution until the game decides.

[lalagideon]

I've beaten every Uncharted game within a week of their respective releases, bought and completed the remastered collection, and agree with his assessment 100%. ("I encountered many instances wherein Nathan Drake – who frequently shrugs off 50ft landings into solid rock – was killed by a 10ft drop into shrubbery, or refused to latch on to handholds because the game decided he wasn’t allowed to go there." This is just one of the spot-on assessments.) I'm not quite sure why a backed-up opinion piece deserves the absurd fury of some. The reviewer on IGN dared to suggest that the single-player campaign was in the area of 8.8 and was thrashed (till she finally allowed the multiplayer to boost the score to a 9.0). It's ok if your favorite game isn't liked by everyone. Really.

[PistolsAtDawn]

I agree with many of your and the review's assessments as well. I have played all the main UC's...and while this is actually my favorite of the 4 main ones...it's definitely NOT perfect or as great as the reviews/fanboys want you to think. It has a lot of glitches with NPCs falling through floors and such, ore weird things with gripping walls like you said....the combat is clunky and horrible most of the time (with the exception of the stealth elements). It's too linear, not enough exploration.....some of these are admittedly nit-picky, it does still have great sound, visuals, story-telling...and I'm not done yet, but up until today I was thinking it was a 9/10...although with the bits I've been playing now...I think I'm leaning closer to 8.5/10....the cover system/combat is killing it for me. Plus there are certain sections of the game that felt slow and un-needed...like the whole Auction section could have been cut out...esp since the item they were after didn't have a payoff for later in the game...flipside, I did love the Scotland area, and driving the jeep was more fun than I expected (except the end portion of that after the APC went on longer than it should have)....yeah....I'm thinking 8.5 now

[lalagideon]

I do agree that 6/10 is too low. I think that was done for dramatic effect. But, the author touches on something interesting: for some reason, the shortcomings of the game (bullet sponges, death by 10 ft drop, etc) are far more frustrating that shortcomings in some other games. Maybe it's because most of the game is so polished that the errors are more glaring? I'm not sure, but playing through the anthology was a chore, at best.

[PistolsAtDawn]

@lalagideon below.....Agreed, 100%

[DigitalRaptor]

Your opinion was immediately invalidated the day(s) you said that every single PS4 exclusive deserved to score 10 points lower and every single Xbox exclusive deserved to score 10 points higher. And what a surprise. Your score is 10 points lower than the Metascore. Color me surprised. xD

"the combat is clunky and horrible most of the time" - Objectively false. This is at direct conflict with every single person who has shared impressions of the game. The gunplay is the most fluid and responsive in the series and far from clunky. what a liar you continue to be.

"It's too linear, not enough exploration" - Objectively false. The game's levels are wide-linear, and much larger than in the past games, and the game is far more focused on the adventure and exploration elements than in any previous games, which is again at direct conflict with every single person who has shared impressions of the game. The ratio of gunplay to adventure/climbing and exploration is higher than ever before. Another disgusting lie from you.

But basically (and this is the good bit) everything you tried to just use to downplay Uncharted 4, are ACTUAL faults in Quantum Break. LMAO!

[freshslicepizza]

@DigitalRaptor
"Your opinion was immediately invalidated the day(s) you said that every single PS4 exclusive deserved to score 10 points lower and every single Xbox exclusive deserved to score 10 points higher. And what a surprise. Your score is 10 points lower than the Metascore. Color me surprised. xD"

why aren't you keeping things on topic instead of bringing your baggage to the forums?

"But basically (and this is the good bit) everything you tried to just use to downplay Uncharted 4, are ACTUAL faults in Quantum Break. LMAO! "

why are you bringing up quantum break other than to keep fueling the console wars YOU keep generating? off-topic again and yet you question others for not being able to directrly respond to comments.

nothing wrong with loving uncharted 4, it does look amazing but it's crystal clear you can't contain yourself because you ALWAYS need to have console war led discussions often cenetered around you and your personal issues with microsoft. this is why you are toxic to the forums. why do i make it about you? because you continually derail topics because you can't control yourself. you are making this about someone because of baggage from other topics so dont ever say to anyone they are hypocrites when you keep portraying yourself as one day after day after day.

[DarXyde]

That's because that 10 ft. drop is not in the area of interest. You think Uncharted is the first game like this? Were you this critical of the Souls games (The Abyss where the Four Kings are located in Dark Souls I as well as the Ivory King DLC for Dark Souls II while much less kills you) and parts of Tomb Raider (several games)? Probably not.

PistolsAtDawn,

You agree with the one negative review of Uncharted 4...Very surprising, said no one ever.

Assuming you've bothered to even play it (claim that you have as much as you like) and honestly feel that way, whatever. Considering its critical reception from verified gamers and review outlets alike, you two have very unusual and negligible taste in games. But I think we both know that, at the very least you, PistolsAtDawn, are blowing hot air. What you do sounds very exciting and you never fail to show up. Yikes, dude...

Anyway, I didn't come here to support the site (I'm not clicking that link--I already beat and enjoyed the game very much). I came to see if the comments section was to my expectation. The community did not disappoint:

Low review score prompts replies from people who enjoyed the game to write it off as clickbait (and perhaps it is), cue a few people claiming to have played it and have a history of adopting the antagonistic perspective of an exclusive agreeing with the review. Meanwhile, the higher consistent reviews following the game's release has very few comments. In short, people are drawn to the negativity.

You people are delightfully predictable.

[lalagideon]

@DarXyde Yes, I think it's always stupid when a developer gives you the option to go to a place on the game map but lazily kills you because he doesn't want you to be there. Some give you a timer to return to the necessary field of action, for instance.

As for your "drawn to the negativity," allow me to present an alternate (and truthful) scenario. A game is bombarded with perfect scores. You spend your hard-earned cash on said game only to be woefully disappointed. So, you're pleased to find that you're not the only one who was not enamored. Why would I want a game I spent $60 on to suck? Is flaming a game in a forum like this worth that kind of cash? I assure you it isn't. In any event, I'm honestly jealous you enjoyed the game as much as you did. Cheers!

[DarXyde]

Lalagideon,

Do you not know how Uncharted plays? If you didn't enjoy playing the past games, given the similarities, you're probably not going to like this one. And frankly, it makes no practical sense to suddenly play a series you don't care for, expecting success based on reviews.

Halo 6 or the next Killzone can score perfectly across the board, I still won't like them because I dislike first person shooters.

[Bebob]

Finally! A honest review! And i feel the same! Uncharted is way over rated. everybody treats this game as a holy relic. Well its not. And this game is not nearly as good as everybody THINK it is.

[Picnic]

It's far better than any Indiana Jones film and that's as good a starting place as anything for comparison.

[PistolsAtDawn]

I disagree, but I did like the Indiana Jones reference "Bad Dates"

[Dark_Knightmare2]

I love people like you who are nowhere to be seen until a rare review like this comes out and bam out you crawl. It's just funny how this one is honest and all the other hundred plus reviews that rated it ten or nine aren't and that you think your opinion mean more like when you said this game isn't has good as people think it is like wtf lol that's delusional as hell

[PistolsAtDawn]

I wouldn't give it a 6, but I see your point...the game is great, but not AS GREAT as many want you to believe....reading the reviews and their justifications vs final scores seem to give this game more benefit of the doubt than ANY other game.....I think of some other games that had similar issues...and their scores are nowhere near as high as this game...clearly something isn't adding up. I DO still recommend people get the game, but this review's points do seem much more honest than some others....albeit the score is a bit low IMO

[MasterCornholio]

"the game is great, but not AS GREAT as many want you to believe..."

Like you said it's actually greater.

Thanks for finally supportiing the game.

[DigitalRaptor]

"not AS GREAT as many want you to believe"

Why would ANYONE believe your opinion, after everything you have said in the past? Why should we believe that, and why do think that your opinion holds more weight? You were downplaying the game before you had even played it.

You firmly and laughably believe (in your own opinion) that every single PS4 exclusive deserves to be rated 10 points lower on the scale and that every single Xbox exclusive deserves to be rated 10 points higher on the scale.

If that is not fanboy projection, then I don't know what is. Hypocrite.

[freshslicepizza]

@DigitalRaptor
"Why would ANYONE believe your opinion, after everything you have said in the past? Why should we believe that, and why do think that your opinion holds more weight? You were downplaying the game before you had even played it.

You firmly and laughably believe (in your own opinion) that every single PS4 exclusive deserves to be rated 10 points lower on the scale and that every single Xbox exclusive deserves to be rated 10 points higher on the scale.

If that is not fanboy projection, then I don't know what is. Hypocrite."

yet you just said 5 hours ago to keep things on topic to me,

http://n4g.com/news/1905466...

you constantly show your true colors and adhere to the old saying do as ai say not as i do. can't you ignore the xbox fans? can't you stop bringing up the past with others? can't you discuss things on topic?

the answer is no. the hypocrite is you my friend. refute the authors claims instead of retreating to your same old schtick and bringing up microsoft, the xbox one and its console exclusives because you look like a raving fanboy.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Says who? You?

If it's not as good as we think, then why the series has been so much well received? You hateful people need to take that energy and do something else. Attitude like these do more harm to creativity and gaming than you think. Then again, you are just a person compared to the millions who think this series is one of the best in gaming.

Good luck trying to change our minds!

[PistolsAtDawn]

Fanboy projection at it's finest

[IRetrouk]

Pistols, seriously give it up man, the game has been universaly praised, you say XiKurapikaKurta is projecting, no that would be you, look at all the comments you have made about the game, just reading through it all is a lesson in fanboy all on its own lol

[DarXyde]

The way I see it:

Uncharted 4 is great. It's a legitimately great game. PistolsAtDawn, you can try to belittle that as much as you like, but the fact remains that, literally, none of the review outlets suggest it's a bad game. NONE OF THEM. It's not meet with mixed reception. It's not being nitpicked. It's just a great game.

You can try undercutting that as you like. Fact still stands that the game is great. "Not as great as people say"? Says who? YOU? The guy with an amusing history of hating? Right.

If you *actually* played the game and don't like it, that's cool. But don't be that guy trying to undermine the experience for what appears to be at universal odds with your take.

[Inzo]

Maybe you should play it first before you say its overrated. Because, it really isn't.

[sullynathan]

N4G hivemind

[Keregan]

Good Review, though the score might be a tad low, imo it's a 8/8,5/10. Good game but nowhere near masterpiece territory.

[MagicBeanz]

We are talking about Uncharted here not Quantum Break.

[scark92]

People are entitled to their own opinion... but this game is not a 6 or 7...

[trooper_]

What a pathetic review. In no way shape and form does this game deserve a 60.

[PistolsAtDawn]

Uh, it's definitely not this bad. I'd put it at 9/10 (although depending on the amount of combat in the remainder of the game may take it down to 8.5 for me) so far...almost done. It has clunky controls, horrible cover system, and it's way too linear to be a game about a treasure hunter...that being said, it's my favorite UC in the series, and I feel like it's going out on a high note. It does everything you'd expect from a UC game, delivering great voice-acting and story telling....the moments outside of combat are fantastic...the moments in combat (which thankfully are rare) are utter crap (unless it's a situation where you can use stealth. It's a great game, and if you have a PS4, I recommend you grab, but it's not quite as good as some want you to believe...it's NOT perfect and it's NOT the best looking game ever, not even the best looking game on consoles this gen....although it is a very pretty game and does not need to be THE best looking game ever to be fun.

[Genuine-User]

What the actual fu**? lol

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

This guy is a joke. After his bitterness toward Uncharted 4 the past days, he expect us to take him seriously.

"Clunky controls, horrible cover system, ans too linear."

Lol!!

[PistolsAtDawn]

@XiKur..... 8.5-9 is bitterness????? Can't be my honest opinion? You know, not EVERYONE sees the world through fanboy goggles like you do. Look it's a great game, but some people need to come back to reality...and YES the controls are clunky, the character animations are stale, and the cover system sucks...there's far too many glitches and NPCs falling through floors and such....HOWEVER, I STILL think it's a great game, because it does everything you'd expect from a UC game...the sound, story-telling, and voice acting are all top notch...so I still love the game...not bitter at all. But you, and other like you keep waiving your fanboy colors with comments like you posted....skip ALL THE POSITIVE THINGS I SAID...including my "final score in progress"...and went straight to the flaws I pointed out...just so you can call me "bitter" and try to discredit me cause I hurt your feelings....get over yourself kid...stop being a fanboy, you're gonna miss out on great games, and it'll only be your loss. Don't bother responding, I won't read it.

[ShadowKnight]

@Pistol.What did you think about Quantum Break because I thought it was the worse game Remedy ever made. The gameplay was just awful IMHO.

[GrubsterBeater]

l loved how you tried using a high rating to use as cover for your pathetic trolling. The game IS the best looking this gen, and it is better than 99% of games out there. Truly another ND masterpiece.

Get out of here with your lame comment, you XBox tool. You haven't even played the game.

[PistolsAtDawn]

You need to play more games, and stop being a TRUE fanboy...if you can't take an honest opinion just because I said UC4 isn't PERFECT...then you're just a fanboy plain and simple

[Snakefist30]

@PistolsAtDawn I am pretty sure ur a fanboy urself.I have played every game from pc to consoles,Uncharted 4 is definitely the best looking and most fun game this gen.Either ur trolling or just hating the game on purpose.

[Rookie_Monster]

Grunbster,

It is only videogames...LOL, no need to be over excited or upset like you actually have stock in a company or something. Troll reviews have been around forever and this guy that review this piece also love Bloodborne.

It is so immature to auto-accuse anyone that don't give a favorable review to a game on a console you love as an Xbot, really is childish. LOL, to think about it, you also do that to members here to, including yours truly. smh

[Ceaser9857361]

"YES the controls are clunky, the character animations are stale, and the cover system sucks...there's far too many glitches and NPCs falling through floors and such. "

@pistolsatdown
did you mistook AC Unity for Uncharted 4 or you're being a plain hater??? ... I did go through almost all the top reviewers and Digital foundry technical analysis on the game and never heard them telling that.. played the game myself never faced it either.. Your personal opinion is always welcome but if you wanna spread lies here then you gonna be countered and thats not fandom ..

"it's NOT perfect and it's NOT the best looking game ever, not even the best looking game on consoles this gen....although it is a very pretty game and does not need to be THE best looking game ever to be fun."

I wont comment on this since this is your personal opinion though i very much disagree with you..

[MasterCornholio]

" I'd put it at 9/10 *

Like you said in relation to this review.

"the game is great, but not AS GREAT as many want you to believe"

Which means you personally believe the game is greater. And with a metacritic of 93 and a personal review of 9.0 that means you personally believe that the game is amazing and accept any reviews with a metacritic of 9.-10 since they are close to your personal review.

In other words, you agree that critics are giving the game the score that it deserves since it matches your personal review.

[DigitalRaptor]

Woah.... You are so full of crap PistolsAtDawn.
Opinions cease to be relevant when they are lies.

If you hadn't made the statement in the past multiple times that you think every single PS4 exclusive deserves to be rated 10 points lower on the scale and that every single Xbox exclusive deserves to be rated 10 points higher on the scale, you might have more sway for us to believe your opinions are valid. But nope... Uncharted 4 was in your line of sights to downplay before it even came out. So STOP calling other people fanboys and pretending you're not one. These fraudulent Xbox dudes who keep pretending they're balanced crack me up.

You said the combat is clunky - that is objectively false, but what about it is clunky? It's weird that most people out there reviewing it and sharing impressions have praised the gunplay as being fast, responsive, fluid and in my experience this is completely true, but you must be the person who is right, huh? What is horrible about the cover system? It's snappy, and if your allies are in cover with you, there is actually an animation for you to move across and past them to get to a different side of cover. So again, what is it?

You said the character animations are STALE? STALE?? Are you serious? That is a hilarious lie. The game has the most fluid and most diverse, impressive array of contextual character animations in any game that I have ever seen. Now I can tell you're trolling. Seriously, if there was any doubt before, there is none now.

You said it's way too linear. It's about as linear as a great percentage of story-driven action games out there. It has HUGE environments which allow you to go off the beaten track, and has even been designed to be wide-linear in this sense. The next step would have been to make it almost completely open-world (which is mad and impossible since Uncharted is a globe-trotting adventure), and to you that would somehow automagically make it a better game.... But your hilarious excuse is that because "it's a game about a treasure hunter". You're a joke. Treasure hunting has people following maps, clues and instructions in a single direction. What a troll.

So basically... all the criticism that COULD have been relevant are not, because they are lies and weak excuses, and the rest of your criticism that drags the game down from 90+ territory are.... wait for it..... BUGS. That's right, the only truth in your downplay are bugs. Things that every game has.

[Legacy212]

Having completed uncharted 4 I have to say I really enjoyed it. Do I think it's the perfect game? No, however what it does it does really well. For me it was at least a 9/10 game minimum. However, this review was actually very well written. To me, Mike came off as a little too critical when talking about certain points in the game. But I can't bash him for writing a "poor" review because some of the points he mentioned were pretty good however I didn't let it take away from the experience. For example, the auction level to me just came with a bunch of wtf moments and I legit felt bad killing the guards they didn't seem evil. Hell, even raffe wasn't THAT evil, poor guy gave up a lot trying to find this treasure. In the end these guys are entitled to their opinion but seemed like instead of enjoying the game for what it is, a game. He went in with a very critical eye and analyzed it looking for what's bad instead of letting himself become immersed.

[DreadGara]

Sound like unplayable game from the title, yet (Mike) or whoever the F he is gave it a 6......wow.
Find another job imo, and stay away from anything that have ranking system and reviews. You guys sound like a joke.

[Legacy212]

To the people freaking out over the meta score possibly going down I have one question. Do you play games because they have a high meta or do you play games because you enjoy gaming. Seems like some people just use high meta scores to attack other people and use them for arguments.
I'll tell you something, I've been gaming since NES. I have played games with terrible scores that I really enjoyed (legend of dragoon got 6/10 on games pot I believe and I loved it) and games with high scores that I just didn't see what the fuzz is about (gone home, metal gear solid 5). Enjoy your hobby people don't let scores and meta take away from your gaming experience.

[Skankinruby]

I surely hope this is just satire click bait. There is not a single aspect of gaming that uncharted 4 didn't completely raise the bar for. I mean the few supposed 'critics' that have tried to take shots at this game sound so pathetic. Gameplay, story, character development, graphics, this game has put very serious pressure on every developer out there to deliver a worthy experience. Not even the almighty Rockstar can touch this game. Absolute masterpiece.

[game4funz]

Though I don't agree with the review I find it ridiculous people would attack a no name site so much.

[opinionated]

6 is harsh. I think it's a solid 8. Anything more is bandwagon hype and wiener riding, anything less is trolling or clickbait.

[conanlifts]

Click bait review?

[MSF89]

It's overrated face it,Dark Souls 3 blow this out of the water in terms of gameplay and fun

[AdmGenAladeen]

Stupid ass review from a stupid ass writer. No way in hell this is a 60! It's like being the one guy who hates the world and goes against everything everyone else likes. Nothing more, nothing less. Pure clickbait shit but you won't get a click from me. Oh, and don't bother thanking me for the reply, go F yourself!

[Igihara]

Who's XO?

[fanboysmackdown]

Haha....and the crowd goes wild!

[OB1Biker]

Funny to see the usual suspects you dont see in all the great reviews comment in this one bad click bait review

[Realms]

Easy way to not get taken seriously by gamers if you honestly don't like U4 it's fine but you have to make your argument for why it's getting deducted otherwise you come off as not being very unknowledgeable, pretentious and a bit condescending towards gamers own knowledge of what is consider a good and bad game. Either way it seems that some no name websites and critics find it perfectly acceptable to turn in bad reviews to get views on their sites.

[XOTV]

Hello everyone,

It's Joshua, the EiC, again!

I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank everyone for reading our review! I appreciate that everyone has their own opinions about Uncharted 4, we just wanted to offer ours as well and help contribute towards a balanced discussion about the game.

As I said above, I stand by Mike 100%, but if you have any feedback, good or bad, then please don't hesitate to get in touch! Our aim is become a trusted voice for gamers, hopefully you can help us get there.

I've been reading the comments in this thread, and will continue to do so. Thank you everyone for taking the time to reply, it means a lot!

Kind regards,
Joshua

[Allsystemgamer]

If your goal is to become a trusted voice you completely and utterly failed. Everyone knows it's click bait.

[XOTV]

I didn't realize that a review which properly explains the reviewers critique is "click bait"! You learn something new everyday!

Naturally, I do encourage you to read the review (I'm not looking for clicks), as I think you'll be surprised. At XO.TV we don't treat our readers like morons. We know our readers have the ability to understand more than broad, sweeping generalizations when it comes to game reviews.

If you disagree with the review, or dislike it, then that's fine! But I would hope those who read it appreciate the style of the review and what it accomplishes.

[Allsystemgamer]

@XOTV

I did read the review. Then I compared it to your other reviews. The grievances your "reviewer" had with the game were glossed over in other reviews.

In other words. Intentionally being picky to give a shitty score.

Does the fact that your review being the only negative one not click with you or something? The negatives stated are petty and reaching.

As for not treating your readers like morons? Yea. You do. You release a review of a universally praised game and expect them to just accept it and now you have to DEFEND your review because readers are clearly not as stupid and you think we are.

If you had a good review, no defending would be necessary.

XOTV Dindu nuffin right?

[Snakefist30]

I didn't read and click your article though.

[Salooh]

Sadly many did even though they knew it is a troll article , that's why they are happy and guess what , we will see more drama now :(

[Razzer]

Yeah.....click bait. You're just here to fan the flames. You've got a brand new site that no one was bothering with so a mediocre review of the highest rated new game this gen is just what the doctor ordered. Congrats.

[ILostMyMind]

15 minutes of fame .

[N8]

This guy, someone always has to be that guy.

[JMyers]

Wow... completely disagree with everything in this "review". Oh well... I just finished the game and loved it.

[Rookie_Monster]

There is always a few troll reviews just like those few low 5 and 6 QB reviews and one or two 9s for the Orders 1886. Oh well, what could you do. Haters gonna hate and trolls gonna be trolls.

[MasterCornholio]

Quantum-break had 16 reviews reviews that were below 7. Now while your correct that they are few not all of them are Troll reviews. The majority of them are well written and come from reputable sites.

People have the right to give a game whatever score that they want however they have to justify the score and write the review in a professional manner.

BTW if you love Uncharted 4 so much why didn't you contribute any positive reviews for it?

"one or two 9s for the Orders 1886. "

Ahh so reviews that are much higher than their metacritics are Troll reviews. I guess we will have to scratch all those 9/10s that QuantumBreak received.

[lastking95]

QB had quite a few 9s more than 2 thats for sure. Based on your logic any review under 7 and over 8 for QB should be thrown out but it's just a number. A number decided by various means. One could think a story is the best ever but subtract because it doesn't have mp giving the game an 8. Should such a game receive an 8 or should it be a 10? People's problem is all they see is a near meaningless number instead of actually reading what they had to say. Many QB 6-7 reviews actually praised it's gameplay. just because this guy gave it a 6 doesn't make him a troll. Everyone has their taste and opinion and rate games differently.

[joeorc]

He just had to be snide in his backhandedness..lol upset even Order1886 had a gamer review score still higher than another game of the other system many claimed had the best models the time and yet..the not only beat that games models but also had better review scores by players.

Even with his claim of reviews being "Mixed"

LoL

[DigitalRaptor]

It's really, really easy to sweepingly call low reviews being from "troll" sources, if you have an agenda to, but that doesn't make them so. Many of the low scoring Quantum Break reviews had written text that justified the scores and were from historically reputable sources. All of those negatives were a commentary on the game's design (objectivity), not about how much or little fun they had with it (subjectivity). But you already know that.

And it's odd that you're here in the low scoring Uncharted 4 article, but weren't seen in the positive ones, or any of the Ratchet & Clank ones for that matter. How suspicious.
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@ MasterCornholio

"Ahh so reviews that are much higher than their metacritics are Troll reviews. I guess we will have to scratch all those 9/10s that QuantumBreak received."

You really are the master ;)

[MasterCornholio]

Well he did say that reviews that are much higher than the average are Troll reviews.

I'm just pointing out that it isn't true. Nothing wrong with a critic giving a game a high score ad long as he justified it well.

[ShadowKnight]

@Rookie Where were you at when this game was getting positive reviews? So predictable lol

[sovkhan]

Click-bait much???

[lastking95]

Yet people will still live and die by metacritc and others reviews.

[n1kki6]

Uncharted is still my favorite series of all time. But with the release of 4, halfway through my playthrough I had enough. The visuals and character development are groundbreaking, but I just don't find the game-play fun anymore. It feels clunky and loose.

[MagicBeanz]

So back to Call Of Duty he goes.

[ShadowKnight]

Lol

[n1kki6]

I was finding that the animations much like assassins creed got in the way of where I actually wanted to go. THe gunplay is ok. But overall I didn't find the game play engaging the 4th time around. Climb, move dumpster to climb more, shoot stuff, heres a jeep. LIke I said, still my favorite series of all time, but I don't think a fourth was needed. I actually think think there was more satisfying gameplay in tomb raider. Now, tomb raider did not look as nice nor was the story or character development even close. But when playing uncharted on ps3 it was like damn, we haven't seen this before. But uncharted 4 game-play wise is just a normal third person shooter in my OPINION.

[XOTV]

This is an issue Mike had. If he didn't have the deadline, and he didn't have to review the game, he would have stopped playing halfway through. He had to really push himself to complete the game to ensure he could properly review it!

[joeorc]

So controls than?
Please tell us more, exactly what was clunky about those controls in uncharted 4?

Because I played game on nephews PS4 because he already had the game before I could get mine.. Found the controls very fluid..more so then previous uncharted games..

[MagicBeanz]

If Mike had to "really push himself" to complete the game then maybe Mike wasn't the guy to be reviewing it.

[MagicBeanz]

All games have repetitive elements, you're looking for excuses instead of just enjoying what it is which is a shame.

[MagicBeanz]

"The graphics are good though. I guess that’s what matters, right?"

Every one just ignore this ass clown, his slanderous article is evidence of his diluted love for Microsoft and his inept manhood. This is clickbait nonsense from an insignificant troll plain and simple. I had hoped N4G would strive to be better but apparently they still prefer trash from unreliable, unknown, and unprofessional "journalists", stay classy N4G.

[XOTV]

I don't think Mike even owns an Xbox One... but I could be wrong!

We believe this review is what game reviews should be, an in-depth critique which thoroughly explains why the journalist liked or disliked a review. We don't believe in broad comments, which is what most game reviews are these days, when it comes to reviews.

Sorry it didn't hit the mark with you this time MagicBeanz!

[AmUnRa]

Please stop man, please. It was pure klickbate and you know it. Your no name site got klicks and that is the only thing you intrested in. You are a joke your "reviewer" is a joke and your site is a joke. Dont try to get more klicks for the joke of a site, whe are not stupid. Now go back to your jokesite nobody cares for you and your opnion on your "gamingsite".

[Allsystemgamer]

The review didn't click with anyone. It's very piss poor and you know it.

Stop pretending to care what people think. Everyone sees through the facade. You want clicks because your site is a failure and slamming a game reviewed extremely well even by polygon.

Give it up. This one review alone showed what you and your site wants. You lost many many return clicks because of this.

Have fun with that hole in the bank.

[MagicBeanz]

I'm sure you are wrong. I believe this review was an injustice to an amazing game, one only needs to look at all the positive reviews for this game, many that are in depth and specific to see the slanderous and unprofessional nature of your reviewers comments. The review hit the mark alright, it got clicks just as it was intended. Its fine if you want to support and defend your reviewers, but if they are going to put out nonsense like Mike's dont expect anyone to take your site seriously.

[alti]

well, congrats on losing all credibility.

[trouble_bubble]

"Quite possibly the most overrated game ever made"

Ok, now you have an agenda. You're taking it to a whole 'nother level, dismissing 30+ years of genuinely failed IP just to spank the current hit. So you're the only smart one in the room then? Don't be a dick with generalizations. Your readers aren't all clones of you.

Don't end future reviews with snarky comments about good graphics either. We all know they're good. Trying to turn it into a negative just makes you sound insecure. Don't tell me if the game looked like Minecraft you'd be any less critical

[XOTV]

Hey trouble_buddle,

Thanks for taking the time to reply!

Unfortunately if Mike thinks it's the most overrated game ever made, then there's literally nothing you can do about it. Nothing at all. It's an opinion, we don't all share the same opinions. The difference here is that as opposed to other reviews, Mike has backed up his opinion.

Thanks for your feedback though, we really appreciate it!

Joshua

[OB1Biker]

'Unfortunately if Mike thinks it's the most overrated game ever made, then there's literally nothing you can do about it. '
Are you kidding? Nobody said they can do 'something' about what happens in the guy s brain.
We are just giving 'feeback' about what we think of this piece. Not much you can do about the general feeling there though which I dont even need to go into much detail here: Yikes

[dp277407]

So Editor in Chief hmmm you sound more like an enormous Italian c***.

[Ceaser9857361]

LOL!! stop writing, I am not defending Uncharted 4 but the write up is such bs.. The Dude prolly is new to gaming or looks like he is a hater... 6/10? LMAO!!

[bradleejones]

Clickbait. No click for you.

[MrEnglish]

Mainly an Xbox player here.... but I bought this for my dust collecting PS4 and I have to say..... this guy who wrote this had some pretty strong koolaid, UC4 may just be the best game of this generation across all consoles, it looks amazing, sounds fantastic, and plays really well. Solid 9 minimum

Oh and why does my PS4 collect dust you are thinking..... well its not actually the ps4 or games that are my issue.... I just really dislike the DS4. Thought I would throw that in there before the acne ridden preteen defense force has a go 😀

[Bobafret]

From the looks of the comments here the author got the desired effect.

[x800]

6/10? dude do you even game? it just shows how clueless you really are about games.

[Platformgamer]

As long as this doesn't affect the metascore, i'm fine with this """"" """""& quot;rewiew"""&q uot;""""&qu ot;""
too much bullshit written, the game is objectively >9/10, i'll add XO.TV to the "not to take seriously" list

[Wotbot]

Love the game so far, only on chapter 6 but it's pure class

[cyber_daemonx]

Definitely not a 6. Its not a 10 either though.

[Jayszen]

Gosh! Where to start with this so called opinion piece masquerading as a review. Clearly the writer is no fan of the game and finds issues with the game that most Uncharted fans will consider silly and petty. The writer does not even know that Neil Druckmann was one of the principals of Uncharted 2, the game which is considered the best of the initial trilogy. The writer appears to have less than average skill at the game and blames the game instead of his abilities.

His colleague, Joshua, in an attempt to defend this piece to one of the many negative comments that are below, says
"The core theme of his Uncharted 4 review is that the game is far too similar to it's predecessors, whilst adding unpolished and unneeded elements in an attempt to refine the formula."

I would like to point out to Joshua that one of the points of a successful SEQUEL is to replicate what gamers like about a particular series while at the same time improving and adding elements that do indeed make the experience better, or 'refined'. I doubt the writer is skilled enough to decide what is unpolished and what is unneeded for if he was, he would not be writing about games, but actually making them. Words are cheap. If Uncharted 4 was nothing like the previous 3 games, I put it to Joshua that his writer would be making exactly the opposite remarks to arrive at the same score, the point being that this is a piece designed to get hits through controversy rather than good gaming journalism.

Joshua also says "...In the Uncharted 4 review Mike very clearly expressed his frustration with the various elements that make up the game (story, gameplay, thematic etc) and how they clash with each other." Wow, Mike the writer knows better than Naughty Dog what elements would make a better game. 'Clash with each other'? I have played the game once and am now on my second game and I have yet to find a single point where there is a clash between the story, the gameplay and theme. But then I am just a dumb gamer who has been playing games for 30 odd years on almost every console created as well as PCs - what do I know?

I have no idea what 'XO.TV' stands for but I suspect from the score that the writer thinks it stands for 'Xbox One.TV'

I did not think that any site could be worse than IGN when it comes to fair reviewing but XO.TV has managed it.

My score on the review: A ridiculous review which has its moments, but otherwise painfully silly and mediocre. Quite possibly the most conceited writer ever. 2 out of 10.

[XOTV]

Hello Jayszen,

Thank you for taking the time to respond, I really appreciate you reading our review and offering feedback!

I believe I addressed some of your concerns in other replies, so I won't bore you and repost them here.

One or two areas I wanted to address:

I think maybe you misunderstand: A review isn't supposed to be a fan gushing about a game. It's supposed to be a critical analysis of what works, and doesn't work in the game. At least that's what a review is at XO.TV! We appreciate other sites do it differently, but we like to approach reviews from a more traditional perspective. I feel like Mike goes above and beyond the "Call of Duty" with regard to properly critiquing the game and backing up his critiques.

A review is also intended to offer a perspective. We encourage our writers to give their unique perspective about the games they review. If you want to get more information about this idea, than the Pixar film Ratatouille is definitely worth a watch!

Finally with regard to sequels... you said it yourself. A sequel is supposed to replicate what gamers like about a series and improve it. The review talks about how Uncharted 4 does not succeed in that regard.

I appreciate that everyone has their own unique opinions about games, and I'm really glad you're enjoying the game, but a review shouldn't be about blind love for a game or franchise. At least that's what we at XO.TV think!

Once again, thank you for taking the time to respond, we really appreciate your feedback!

Kind regards,
Joshua

[Jayszen]

Sorry Joshua, but spinning about what Mike has written only shows that your site has an agenda with this review. No one expects a fan gushing about the game as a review but Mike behaves as though he is the smartest in the room and he alone knows what works and what doesn't. You also contradict yourself in your patronizing reply to me where you say "Finally with regard to sequels... you said it yourself. A sequel is supposed to replicate what gamers like about a series and improve it. The review talks about how Uncharted 4 does not succeed in that regard." Yet your earlier response to another irate gamer which I referred to in my initial comment stated clearly "the game is far too similar to it's predecessors, whilst adding unpolished and unneeded elements in an attempt to refine the formula". My point was that the Uncharted 4 is doing exactly what it should as a sequel and my question was why does Mike think he knows better what elements are needed or need to be polished? He is a writer with an opinion which in this case is not justified because he is making generalized comments without any specifics. He describes Uncharted 4 as "...the most overrated game..." Please! Another gross generalization that has no place in a so-called review.

I don't need to be told what constitutes a proper review - no one is looking for 'blind love' for a franchise but we are looking for an informed perspective and I think most people with agree with me that Mike was anything but in this review. This was a review that was intended as 'click bait' and in that respect it has succeeded for now. However, in the long term all you have succeeded in doing is letting gamers know that XO.TV is just another site that cannot be relied on to present informed and well-thought out reviews.

[joeorc]

See right here you talk about "blind love" who said anything about blind love..aah you did? again your writer claims clunky controls..well whats so clunky about them? its very simple question asked..mike should be the one on here answering that very simple claim..or is it mike cannot and your one doing it for him? On his opinion ?

[MagicBeanz]

Its a admirable you trying to defend this garbage review by a clearly unprofessional reviewer who most likely dislikes the franchise, and had no business reviewing the game in the first place. Sure a review shouldn't be blind love for a game, nor should it be blind hate either, its clear where your reviewer stands, his comments were less then subtle. And for the record U4 is an improvement on the series which is just one of many things your reviewer got wrong. Defend it all you want just know your site lost credibility with this review, but hey you encourage these kinds of reviews so good luck with that.

[ravens52]

They don't get a click from me just coming here right? I have to actually go to their site? I'm about to block their site on my phone. Ludicrous. He obviously has an agenda.

[Livecustoms]

Lol he obviously done this for click bait XD.

[UziSuicide]

I would agree about the globe section, happened more than once too. But, for me at least the game was pretty spectacular and I liked it a lot.

[dafegamer]

pre- uncharted 4 " Uncharted sucks, its a corridor shooter and too linear"
post uncharted 4 " Uncharted is too open, it doesnt need open level design, it sucks"
Shitty journalism in a nutshell

[Nti1983]

This site is a hole full with crap...

[windblowsagain]

The Guy obviously does not have a Clue.

Don't know what he gave Dark Souls 3 as I will not click on the site.

But I'm only a few chapters in and the game is sweet, very big world, adventure with a big theme on story.

When the factor in MP as well.

There is no way in this world it's a 6/10.

[dp277407]

85 /100 or whatever the review system is.

[maniekz]

Haha, no one knows this crap site existence till now, just look at so called articles there...no comments whatsoever.

[dragonopt1]

Couldn't agree more. Seems like they did it for attention/hits on their site.

[iistuii]

I'd never give it a 6, but I'm at a point where it's getting tedious searching around an old mansion as a kid & id be tempted to deduct a point for this level, dunno if it's the level ign was moaning about, but it's pretty dull compared to the rest of the game. Can't wait to get off this level tbh..

[sin7279]

Garbage review!

[geddesmond]

This is just a website looking for traffic. Don't give them what they want by visiting the website. Most of us know UC series has never let us down so play the game for yourself and judge for yourself.

[jwillj2k4]

I agree some with the article points. However this is uncharted, it's inconsistencies are consistent throughout the series. UC has always been about having fun. You've always had to overlook the silly ways you can die (based on the nature of the game), bullet sponges and the not so excellent ai. It's still a memorable experience.

[Themba76]

watch this site give infinite warfare a 9.5 or a 10

[celiamoontown]

This is an opinion piece = this is an opinion piece

[BlakHavoc]

Come on guys this is obvious click bait. This game has been highly praised since release with an 8 being the lowest score. Suddenly someone drops a review a couple weeks later and it happens to be a six? Lol the titles controversial and he knew that, just cause the reviews well articulated and well written doesn't mean this guy didn't have every intention on getting as many clicks as possible. How do you think he earns his keep as a writer? Plus he just happens to have an account here on N4G, fanboy central...gtfo!

[DafunkyRebel]

asterisk

[Emme]

There are multiple points in the review that make sense. But then, such things didnt matter to movies like Transformers either. So far, no review could convince me to get a PS4 for this game just to play the fourth installment of a game that became boring and repetitive after part two. And dont start with the storytelling, the story is just there as a placeholder.

[Sayai jin]

It's this critic's opinion. He is entitled to it. His opinion is quite different from the majority of reviewers. People need to calm down.

[BIGBOSS08]

the psychological breakdown of xbox fanboys this generation is quite amusing. these guys are losing their minds over this console war nonsense. must be tough for them seeing all the lime light on PS4 this generation whilst the xbox one is shunned and nothing is going right for it. PS4 gets uncharted 4 whilst they're stuck with quantum break. who wouldnt be mad??

[milohighclub]

Tlou2 should feature pregnant ellie

[ritchi45]

XO.TV? Sounds suspiciously like a site with an agenda against what the site initials stand for

[corroios]

Why do gamers even waste time with such crap. Really dont understand.

[saiki10]

get your steam game with half price or less :

[Gwiz]

Desperate clickbait.

[kenwonobi]

Lol. Well there was bound to be one negative review. A few care. It's already a masterpiece by now.

[Lulz_Boat]

what a stupid guy, LOL

[Father__Merrin]

what an absolutely pathetic review and heavily soiled opinion.

clear attempt at click baiting, opinion piece owner clearly has been eating from what comes out of his behind!!!

[xetiro]

Exactly because everyone have the right to their opinion, is perfectly normal that there are people that don't like this games, therefore don't like Uncharted 4.

So I played the game and I read the review and my clear conclusion is that this guy just didn't like Uncharted 4, much because it seems he doesn't like this type of games to begin with. He even admits to struggle to finish the game, which is something completely ackward to say in respect to this great game. All review is about criticizing every expect he didn't like:

"Thank god is a Thief end"
"Mash square to get good reviews"
"Criminally overrated game"
"The graphics are good though. I guess that’s what matters, right?"
"A beautiful game which has its moments, but otherwise painfully slow and mediocre. Quite possibly the most overrated game ever made."

If one doesn't like FPS, should he be reviewing games like DOOM? Sure he will give a low score based on the lack of interest and patience to play the game. Same with Uncarted 4 here.

Bottom line, in my opinion, this review is completely out of context.

[mogwaii]

I pity the fool, the game is a true work of art.

[BenRC01]

For the love of god dont click this clickbait bs.

[Horseygamer]

im enjoying thief's end and cant help feel that they did the right thing to end the series, every uncharted game has been excellent and up the bar for story telling in games!!!

[zodiac909]

The fact that he needed to bring God into the situation. What a tool.

[wotta]

If these people are so confident in the quality of their review, why do they need the clickbait headline? Look at their Dark Souls III review? How come that doesn't have a subheading. The only reason this review is so hot is because of the headline, which was clearly designed to get clicks. Bit sad really, needing a headline such as that to draw viewers.

[ufo8mycat]

How do idiots like this Mike dude have a job in gaming reviews, when he is either clearly trolling for hits, or has shitty taste in games?

What a complete moron.

[Aenea]

Oddly enough some points he makes are indeed correct and I agree with them, but they are very, very minor in my book compared to the rest. This was one of the most enjoyable games I've played in a while and on top of that it's just freakishly detailed and gorgeous too!

So no, a 6/10 doesn't seem right, in my opinion, even when you consider his dislikes he mentions, seems way too low.

For me it would be a 9/10!

[MagicMaster]

I agree with this review, it's nothing more than a generic third person shooter, the open world aspects are linear and the game's MP is awful, in fact it's already dead and everyone moved on to Overwatch. Took me 7 minutes to get into a game on UC4 yesterday, guess it's hard when there's only about 40 people left on a game.

[Jayszen]

I know that you are not being serious as soon as you said UC4's MP is awful. Yeah, keep deluding yourself.

[The_Sage]

Only an idiot could give this game this review.

[LuisAlmeida]

Objective? Clickbait!

[theFAYEsorceress]

i hope this guy has a day job lol

[one2thr]

I just finished my first play through.

Opinions are subjective and are meant to be respected.

With that said, this review is wrong and I do not respect it. The contrarians seem to come out of hiding when something get too much praise.

[MagicBeanz]

This crass and unprofessional moron writes "Thank God It’s A Thief’s End" and Joshua has the gull to come in here and try to defend this guy, come on get serious, everyone know what this review was about.

[djdavis]

Finally a honest review! Why i say that? Because i own a super collection of the 57 best games of all times to demonstrate why this reviewer is not so wrong as you want to make me believe!