Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Review - IGN

Our final verdict on Nathan Drake's final chapter.

[hulk_bash1987]

Everything about this game is pure perfection. Uncharted 4 is beautiful, engaging and an exciting game to play through. Naughty Dog and everyone involved are truly amazing.

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

I thought they were giving it an 8.8. Glad to see it's a 9 instead. I don't know why but it makes a big difference. Giving a game like Uncharted an 8.8 is just punk. Why not just give it a 9? How do you measure the .2 points? I agree with amiga-man on that.

It's not about the .2 points, it's more than that, it makes a statement somehow.
8.8 = fail, 9.0 = win.

It's like a basketball game, Cavaliers 100 - Hawks 99. The difference is not 1 point, the difference is one team won and the other team lost. It makes all the difference.

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

FettyWap, it's like the difference between getting an A or a B on your grade. It's a big difference to me, that's all I'm saying. If you don't get it, you don't get it. Oh well.

[nveenio]

I agree that the difference is perceptual. The "A" and "B" grade is a better analogy than saying that one is a fail and the other isn't. I just hope reviewers realize they can't please everyone with a number and keep giving out numbers all the same. I don't like reading reviews because I want to go in fresh, and a number just helps me to get a quick snapshot to help my buying decision.

Of course, buying Uncharted 4 was a no-brainer. My son said, "I wonder what score they'll give it," and I said, "I don't care what score they give it."

[nix]

So... It's worse than the COD out there?

I know it's only a difference of .1 or .2 but isn't it funny when you notice things like that.

Getting 9 doesn't pisses me off but seeing things like this really gets to me.

[deafdani]

That's absurd.

[otherZinc]

LMAO! She caved in to the PS Fan based pressure of a petition to get her fired. Hilarious, way to go ign.

Or, Ryan McCaffrey must have told her the Uncharted Multiplayer is fantastic, and worth a 9.2; now you can cave in to a clean 9.0 Uncharted 4 rating.

This is the very reason I do not trust reviewers for 1 second.

[Picnic]

If they have scale that allows 0.1 differences, then they either rate it at the very top of what 80-90% games are worth or at the very bottom of what 90-100% games are worth (because, in reality, people tend to narrow stuff down within 10% I find). Doesn't sound quite so impressive when put like that but they were trying to achieve a balancing act of over the top Unchartedness and Last of Us-like character depth and brutality and it's difficult to feel entirely like either series when doing that. The game is made for me (I'm up to chapter 7) by the superb character animation, graphical fidelity (after the oddly muted prologue part which looked like it could have been started on PS3), humourous , deliberately almost 4th wall breaking sometimes humour, the variety of locations / gameplay types. It's not made so much so far by its level design, puzzles. And when even the game says 'really?' when forced to do a quick brawl not long after a very extended one, and bearing in mind the beginning too, I feel the handprints of Uncharted 3 and the Last of Us over this so more than Uncharted 2's but what there has been has so far been engaging, largely because Sam and his relationship with Nathan- and Nathan and Elena's relationship- have been very touchingly portrayed and they've made a concerted effort to make this about a band of thieves.

[jb227]

@picnic

I'm right there with you in regards to this game. The flow is just wonderful & kinda mesmerizing. The real time cutscenes have literally turned this game into the most cinematic narrative I've played. It gives it the flow of TLOU with the adventure of Uncharted. Just an amazing combination. The themes are weighty & apt for a series finale & the performances are phenomenal. That's all before we get into the butter smooth animation & rock solid gunplay. This game doesn't throw wave after wave of enemies for you to shoot at, it is more measured, so when those gun fights happen they have an actual weight to them. Also, Elena's short shots in the trailers didn't really do her new character model justice. She looks stunning in this game. Just absolutely believable, which sells her relationship with Drake that much more. Phenomenal work on Elena in mocap & design, maybe moreso than any other character in the game.

I just arrived at chapter 8 last night before I forced myself to shut it off. I really want to take my time with this one because it is already something special. Different than what came before but for the better for my tastes.

If I could come up with one criticism as a huge fan of Uncharted's environmental design it would be "too much water". Only half kidding there really, it's no deal breaker because the world is still among the most gorgeous I've ever seen in gaming, but it seems like at least up to chapter 8, most every environment we've visited is buttressed by a large body of water. The views are always stunning, but I kinda hope we hit more environments that rest further inland so that view can be a little landlocked here & there just for variety's sake. Still phenomenally gorgeous either way though.

[Kingthrash360]

Wanna know what my problem is?
Evolve got a 9.1....Evolve tho.

[DragonKnight]

Call me paranoid but I consider outlets that even have a .1 to .9 (minus .5 because half a point can be explained, but how do you explain a 1/8 a point) as trying to purposely manipulate the metacritic aggregate score. I haven't figured out what benefit there would be in doing that, but going from 8.8 to 9 just stinks of suspicious IMO.

[rainslacker]

The first score of 8.8 was to get the hits without seeming too far off base with a lower score. The 9 is a way for them to get clicks by giving it a "reasonable" score.

There was nothing to this other than hit mongering. Kind of disappointing from IGN.

To me, the 8.8 is just perceived in the same way $9.99 isn't seen as being $10. It's essentially the same thing, but people don't really register it that way most of the time.

I don't think people should have been upset with an 88. It's a good score. People were right to be upset that she didn't complete the game, and gave it a score based on an incomplete review. IGN allowed a "first impression" review to go out as an actual review, and despite being upfront about it, obviously only gave a score for hits, since no respectable reviewer should give an early review score.

[xxjabberxx]

I want to know how they at first figure this game was only .8 better than quantum break.

[ziggurcat]

"I thought they were giving it an 8.8."

not to defend IGN in any way, but they did state that the review score was incomplete, and the final score was pending their experience with the MP...

[nosferatuzodd]

yeah IGN lil deceitful trick give a high level game a unfair review then rack up the hits and then change it in the future so they can reap the profits lol and ppl still don't catch on yet

[BlackTar187]

it was so obviously manufactured nonsense. I wish gaming journalism had a back bone.

[nveenio]

It was obvious because they posted a tentative score in the first place. If they were being genuine, they would have put a big question mark where the score was supposed to be. Then, they could have given it an 8.8 and probably gotten half the negativity they did by posting early. They could have given it a 9, too, and at least have been respected a bit in the end.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Dat click bait income, yo :3

[senorfartcushion]

Unfair? As in a 9/10?

Unfair?

UNfair?

UNFAIR really?

Do you eat clay? You absolute monstrosity. You absolutely childish, moron. You absolute stain on the underwear of life. You absolute IDIOT.

[cyberwaffles]

So they really gave it an 8.8 then a 9? What a bunch of pricks. IGN can go screw themselves.

[BullyMangler]

Uncharted, GTA 10/10 ?
LMAO
compared to games like Bayonetta 2, where imagination and graphics are unique.
Dsnt make sense GTA Uncharted 10/10, when fantasy games like Bayo really show you what the mind of man can really do, in terms of over the top imaginative creation. .

In reality, Uncharted 4 more like 8.9/10.
because great but copy and paste graphics, and lack of fantasy. = minimal brain use. FACT

With that said. I really like Uncharted. I love it actually. And yes, Uncharted is system seller. So rad. 8.9/10

[deafdani]

Oh look, a fanboy fanboying. Color me surprised.

I absolutely adore Nintendo's games. I also absolutely adore GTA games, and GTA V was bloody fantastic.

Guess what... I absolutely adore the Uncharted games, as well, having played 1 and 2 three times, and 3 twice.

You can be a fan of many game companies, and it won't reflect bad in any other. And you can praise a game without shitting on other games.

The only "FACT" here is that you're a ravid Nintendo fanboy to the point of belittling everything else. You embarrass me as a Nintendo fan.

[ShadowKnight]

I agree! Uncharted 4 is amazing!

[kenwonobi]

Yes. I'm even more convinced IGN deserves all the backlash. There is no reviewer who could say this isn't anything other than perfect. Unbelievable. The game is the gorgeous.

[senorfartcushion]

You're an idiot. You don't understand how reviews work, as meaningless as they are.

[cyberwaffles]

The messed up part is that apparently they originally scored it an 8.8 then changed it to a 9. Like someone else stated, it was just a set up for click bait hits/income then changed the score to appease advertising for the game.

IGN can go crawl in a hole and rot. Their scoring system isn't only dumb (how do you differentiate an 8.8 with a 9) but many of their scores have been downright bad.

IGN is a bunch of haters.

EDIT: @Senor

Step your troll game up

[Heyxyz]

At least it's a 9, and not an 8.8... Man, decimal scores REALLY annoy me.

[Paytaa]

Yeah I never get the decimal scores unless it's like "9.5" or something. I mean, if that's the case, I'll give Uncharted 4 a 9.03334. See how dumb that is?

[iceman06]

Agreed!!! It's pretty difficult to perceive and justify a 0.2 fluctuation in a score. Scientifically, tools are limited by precision. (anything after the initial scale becomes an inaccurate guess) I am assuming that this applies to review scales as well (understanding that they are FAR from scientific). Those decimals provide the perception of being more accurate than the average scale while, at the same time, actually showing an obvious lack of precision...unless someone can prove and show what a 0.1 difference means.

[rainslacker]

Without any criteria established to actually determine what's being counted off for, or how certain things are weighted, it's impossible to even use such an incremental score to determine why it is scored in such a way.

It's one thing to kind of have an idea what a game will be like base on it being an 8 or 9, or maybe it's between an 8 or 9, hence 8.5, but it's another to sit there trying to figure out why it's not a 9 and what was counted off for to remove two tenths of a point.

[rainslacker]

It's more the fact it's perceived as an 8 if it gets an 88.

Same way that $8.99 is seen as $8, instead of $9 by many.

Otherwise, such incremental scores seem rather useless nowadays. .5's are OK because it denotes it falls between the two scores, but one tenth of a percent is practically worthless given how scores are determined by haphazardly assigning a number based on subjective analysis instead of a structured system which adds or removes points based on established criteria.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

For awhile I thought ign changed there scoring system and did away with this crapola.. it was a 20 point system for awhile like 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5 .. you get it.. when did they return to this nonsense again?

[cyberwaffles]

They got more click bait with the .1 decimal scoring. Bunch of troll hards.

[Walker]

1 point only for bloating third act LoL

[freshslicepizza]

others who enjoyed the game have also mentioned there is quite a bit of climbing and repetition in the last part that they were not overly thrilled about.

the point is not everyone must share the same opinions but we all know so many on the forums love to use scores as some sort of ammunition and want to see the overall metacritic scores super high so they can gloat about a game they had no input in its creation. instead of simply enjoying the game the scores and the fact its exclusive is a game in itself to them on the forums.

[UnwanteDreamz]

@deafdandi

That's the lie right there isn't it? A shitstorm? What a gross exaggeration you and some in the media have made. Uncharted4 is being played by millions. You fanboys exaggerate everything. Even if 100 people commented it's less than 1% of the people who bought the game. BS manufactured outrage keep pretending it's a big deal but you're full of it just like the media.

[freshslicepizza]

@UnwanteDreamz
"That's the lie right there isn't it? A ****storm? What a gross exaggeration you and some in the media have made. Uncharted4 is being played by millions. You fanboys exaggerate everything. Even if 100 people commented it's less than 1% of the people who bought the game. BS manufactured outrage keep pretending it's a big deal but you're full of it just like the media. "

nice to see such reasonable people on the forums.

[OB1Biker]

What climbing? in the third act??? (comment you replied to was about 3rd act)
Not going to spoil it but I found it actually very short and I enjoyed it
It also looks great and completely fits in the narrative

[remixx116]

Moldy......dude why are you even here?? I understand it's the Internet so freedom of speech and all that buzz but uhhhhh you hate sony. Guess it's no real suprise to see you in here making negative soup and sandwiches.

[Sparta07]

Lmao!!! At moldy!!!! The same guy defending that turd of a game QB. When it got all those low reviews
you hate anything sony why on earth are you even on here? You don't own a ps4 and you haven't played uncharted 4. The problem People have is the reviewer gave the game an 8.8 ( not a bad score ) because she wanted to play mutiplayer before giving out the final score. How the hell can the mutiplay be only worth 0.2 score???? Lol. That's what everybody is freaking out over.

[rainslacker]

Climbing in an UC game? And that's a reason to downrate it? That's 1/3 of what this game is supposed to be. Heck the first UC game had an entire puzzle based around the platforming, and it took forever if you didn't know the key to solving it. I probably spent at least 2-3 hours on that section on my first play through because the clues didn't register with me. Was frustrating as all hell, but not something worth criticizing the game over.

[freshslicepizza]

@Sparta07
"Lmao!!! At moldy!!!! The same guy defending that turd of a game QB. When it got all those low reviews
you hate anything sony why on earth are you even on here?"

interesting response from the same person who made a comment here in a thread about quantum break,

http://n4g.com/news/1816849...

you are quite the hypocrite. why n4g puts up with members like you is beyond me. that's just one example but no point in making things even worse for you. but don't worry, the pack mentality here will continue to protect you and your contradictions.

"You don't own a ps4 and you haven't played uncharted 4. The problem People have is the reviewer gave the game an 8.8 ( not a bad score ) because she wanted to play mutiplayer before giving out the final score. How the hell can the mutiplay be only worth 0.2 score???? Lol. That's what everybody is freaking out over."

freaking out over a 8.8 review, are you serious? how old are you guys to be freaking out over one review for one game that doesn't impact your own enjoyment? this also highlights whats wrong here, you guys are freaking out and are quick to attack anyone who says anything at all with any shred of negativity. go ahead and look through my profile, you will see nothing but praise over this game from me.

next person to school,

@remixx116
"Moldy......dude why are you even here?? I understand it's the Internet so freedom of speech and all that buzz but uhhhhh you hate sony."

i hate sony? you guys are just so desperate for attention aren't you? its either you are with us or you are against us, what is this, third grade? i don't hate sony, far from it. in fact i mentioned time and again the ps4 is the best console out there but you guys have skin so thin it probably never stops bleeding. it's not sony pal, it's the loud-mouthed loyalists like you who are so easy to spot.

now onto more respectable posters even if i don't agree with them all the time,

@rainslacker
"Climbing in an UC game? And that's a reason to downrate it?"

that depends on each persons experience. once again i am only commenting on what some others have said and even in my initial comment i explicitly mentioned they enjoyed it but they were not overly thrilled about the last third. to even support my argument low and behold i see a new review pop up that also mentions this,

http://n4g.com/news/1904211...

"This touches on one of my biggest misgivings with the game, and that is how the third act is handled. Unfortunately, Drake’s swansong sings too long. Without spoiling too much, the back third involves a lot of one-on-one time with Nate, doing little more than climbing. Without interactions with other characters to pass the time, I found myself starting to just bash the X button to grind through some of the longer climbing sequences. And with it, my engagement began to wane. It took me 15 hours to finish the game, and I can’t help but feel that upping the pace of that final third would have benefited the overall experience."

but as we can see nobody can say one bad word towards anything naughty dog does. its no wonder jim sterling had to write a blog about sony fans and it's just as fitting then as it is now.

[OB1Biker]

@molbybread
Reading you last comment and the review you posted I must admit I'm lost. I have no idea what act you and this reviewer are talking about. I was assuming it was chapter 3 but that maybe about the last part of the game that I haven't reached yet. I must have got lost in translation there.
As for criticism over the game being 'too long' excuse me to find it weird after all the past criticisms for games being too short. My scepticism still stands since past uncharted games had the same platforming bits, which I very much enjoyed, that could last a while and there s no reason to find this game worse because of that.
I hope your enjoying the game as much as I am. Happy gaming anyway

[freshslicepizza]

@OB1Biker

most of the negative stuff surrounding this game is nitpicking from what i have read but again every persons experience will differ. i love the uncharted games but always thought the shooting mechanics were the worst part and the enemy ai but that looks to be better on this game. i just find it embarassing the attitude among some so called gamers who take such things so personal.

[kenwonobi]

Yeah what a joke. The review is pitiful.

[Masterchief_thegoat]

Uc4 for me is 9.6 goty for sure

[Livecustoms]

I hate people who give weird decimal scores like 9.'6' , i dont mind '.5'. It's probably just my ocd not sure lol

[BlackTar187]

What is the .1 difference from 9.5 ?

[Kingthrash360]

Evolve got a 9.1 from ign.
Its Why I call the system stupid.
And I call ign untrustworthy. Just give it a 9.5 and call it a day...

[Nivekki]

'Evolve got a 9.1 from ign. '

Mgnn, Evolve got a 9.1, mgnnnn!

STFU, so what. Evolve is a completely different game, it's not the same. I think UC4 is an amazing game, absolutely worthy of the high scores, but if someone scores a totally different game in a totally different genre a score higher than what they have scored UC4 I won't make a song and dance about it. It is what it is.

Fanbois like Kingthrash make me sick.

[iceman06]

Wrong!!! It's exactly a 9.6541287!!!😄

[Soap_Z]

9/10 is totally acceptable. I give Uncharted4 a 10/10.

[Mr Lahey]

LOL.. Oh IGN. What have you become.. How many comments on the review now?

[Mr Lahey]

I checked. 20000+ comments. Clickfest gallore.

[ginsunuva]

People don't seem to get that by going there, signing up for an account, and commenting, they're giving IGN tons of ad money.

[CaptainSheep]

Finished the game yesterday. Such an amazing ending to the series, and I feel a little empty thinking of how the series has ended. I'll miss Drake, Elena and Sully.

[Ezz2013]

I think Uncharted4 is 10/10 but i had no problem with IGN 8.8 review since that's their opinion after all and it's prett great score that tons of games wish to have that score
but it's great that they bump up the score to 9/10

[cyberwaffles]

It was alluding to being an 8 score even though its atleast a 9. The .2 difference in score is so minute that you couldn't even tell the difference. They want the game to be perceived as a "B" rather than the "A" it is. Its a form trickery and sly deception using psychology.

[Inzo]

I like the score, but now you will wonder, is it an honest review score or did O'Brian feel pressured to give this score.

[Nivekki]

They're in a lose-lose situation.

[ninsigma]

Not really sure what the uproar was about last time. 8.8 was a great score. Heard people saying about discrepancies between the reviewers reviews. I don't know who she is or follow any reviewers so I don't really know. Either way great score for the game! You know you've made a great game when the comments section get so heated like they have been xD

[trooper_]

Wasn't the score. The review lacked objection.

[ninsigma]

Yeah, fair enough. That's what I was kinda understanding from people. I didn't read the review because I never read reviews and if I did I'd never read one from IGN. So without reading it I couldn't really understand the problem properly.

[cyberwaffles]

Yeah, in other words the reviewer probably knew the game was better than even the 9 she gave but due to cognitive dissonance and bias probably couldn't bring herself to admit it.

At the same time she knew he couldn't just blatantly score it low as it would be obvious fanboyism.

I hear this happening a lot of with Game Informer too, especially when the 360 was the most popular console. At one point they didn't want to rate PS3 exclusives with high scores until later in its development when it started picking up steam.

"Journalists" have some fanboy in them too even if they don't admit it. Plus they play a major role in advertising so from a competitive standpoint I can see companies trying to push higher scores for certain games and lower others to come out on top.

[OB1Biker]

Here is what she said at the beginning of the review:
''What lets it down, however, is an uninspired and overly long third act which slows down its pace considerably with curiously repetitive gameplay.. Uncharted 4 consequently falls short of the greatness achieved by some of developer Naughty Dog’s leaner, more inventive predecessors.'
She s claiming the game is not as good as the previous games in the series because of this ONE alone chapter she found too long. After I played it I honestly laughed

[ninsigma]

Lol
I'll see for myself when I get to the end. Seems like a strange singular reason to have to mark it down.

[TheFallen1327]

Good for you.

[cyberwaffles]

Yet they've given 9's for the COD releases which are practically re-skins. This is called a double standard which is why IGN's scores are non-objective and inconsistent.

[ninsigma]

OK so I just finished the game and it sounds like she's talking utter crap and just trying hard to find something to criticise. I mean, I have a few things that didn't quite sit well with me over the course of the game but the whole 2nd half of the game was awesome! If anything felt too long to me it would be the first half of the game where it felt disjointed. 2nd half really opened up well and the whole thing became really impact full. What an ending.

[rainslacker]

She admitted to it being an incomplete review, yet still assigned a score.

[mEATgrinder]

Ahhhhhh Lucy, shame you caved in. Shouldn't have listened to the constant whining from the fanboys and stuck to your guns.

[MasterCornholio]

That 8.8 was only for the single player though. Since the game has multiplayer it deserved the extra points that she gave it. Basically the single player was worth 8.8 and the multiplayer 0.2. In the end that gave the game a score of 9.0.

Next time she should review the whole game instead of just half of it.

[DLConspiracy]

I'm pretty sure they have many points for each part of the game they rate. They add them up and divide it by how many categories they rated individually to achieve their average. I can't remember exactly how IGN does it exactly but it's something like that . For example they could have multiple groups of things to rate a game on. Gameplay, Graphics, Multiplayer, Story, replayability, originality.. etc.. each of these are given a 1 to 10 score then added up and divided by how many categories to average it out. So that .2 is probably because of that.

[MasterCornholio]

Interesting that the single player is worth 8.8 while the multiplayer is worth .2. The two together gives the final score of 9.0.

I never complained about the score in the beginning but I personally believe you shouldn't release a score unless its the final one.

[eferreira]

The online isn't only worth .2. She probably reflected on everything after playing the game and decided she liked it more than she thought.

[MasterCornholio]

LOL.

Your probably right about that.

But I'm just saying that what IGN did could be interpreted the way that I said.

I just find it funny that's all.

[remixx116]

They do it for the clicks big homie, I can kinda understand "review in progress" for a game like ffxiv, in fact that is when it was first created as it was an mmo.

Yet a review in progress for a game that could be full tested in 20 hours is stupid, then they decided to double dip and attach a score to it before the review is done to get some clicks then give it a final score to get more clicks. Uncharted 4 is the first game they've ever double scored from my knowledge and it got the HELLA clicks so you better believe they'll do it again for the next huge game.

[BlackTar187]

You're 100% correct. I don't go to IGN for anything but Comic book release news. Everything else feels inaccurate to me.

[Relientk77]

I started playing it yesterday it's absolutely phenomenonal, can't wait to get home and continue playing

[feraldrgn]

Example of why "reviews in progress" is a no no.
See how many clicks they got? Bet they're rubbing their hands.

[cyberwaffles]

They're ok for games that can take a long time to complete. RPGs and MMO's especially I can understand seeing that some games you may never complete or would net you over 100's of hours of gameplay.

[Pancit_Canton]

Uncharted 4 is miles ahead of Rise of the tomb raider. (Overall, both Single and Multiplayer)

Clearly, her score is still biased, based on the fact that she rated ROTTR higher than Uncharted 4. IGN needs to hire a better reviewer and an actual gamer who are againts to feminazi and not biased againts console exclusivity.

[GoldenJoystick]

No way in the universe. ROTR is leagues ahead.

[BiggerBoss]

Lol even Crystal Dynamics knows that's not true...

[cyberwaffles]

One thing I do like about Rise of the Tomb Raider is the weapon stats and upgrading. They should include that in all campaigns for shooters. I remember RE4 being like that and it gave the game a more RPG like feel.

[Petebloodyonion]

And can you tell us how Uncharted 4 is way better?
the art box?
the fact that it's says made by ND on Uncharted4?
Or let me guess Uc 4 is way better compare to TB because YOU prefer the Uncharted series to the Tomb Raiders one?

[Pancit_Canton]

Keyword: OVERALL
Story
Graphics
Gameplay
Sounds
Multiplayers

[Petebloodyonion]

@ Pancit_Canton

Story?
I don't recall a Tomb raider review stating that the story was weak even it was praised in different review but for argument sake and that fact that ND are better story teller let's say UC4 story is better.

Graphics
I agree there unless you include the Pc version of the game but even there Uncharted as a unique presentation in a class of its own.

Gameplay?
Again where does it says that there's flaws in ROTTR?
actually there's more casual complaints in the gameplay elements of UC4 (giantBomb, Gamespot)

Sounds?

Again on what proof do you base your claim?

Multiplayer
Ok for this one!

But now how about theses topics:

Replay ability:
ROTTR as been praised for the many optional quests and tombs giving the game a average of 30 hours
while Uc4 reviewer mentioned that asside from treasures collecting there's not a lot to do in the game.

Exploration: For a game base on adventure and exploration, exploration should be a main factor no? yet even if the game offer a more open map, UC4 is still a linear game.

In the end, I'm not trying to say that ROTTR is a better game compare to Uc4 nor the opposite.
Just saying that both games were praised (they are score quite the same by users on metacritics) and your perceptions is more base on what you prefer compare to established criteria.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Here ill tell you since I own both systems and have played both. The characters, story, level design, audio,graphics,animations, voice acting and set pieces are all better in uncharted 4. The only thing that's debatable is game play but with how fine tuned everything is in uc 4 and the new things they added I would put them on the same level in that regard. Oh and of course the mp which is surprisingly good in uc 4 but that isn't fair because rotr doesn't have mp has a result of how horrible it was in the first tomb raider.

[Imalwaysright]

Says the person that clearly didn't play Rise of Tomb Raider. You see, Rise of Tomb Raider doesn't have multiplayer but by all means, keep pretending that you played it.

[deafdani]

Or... maybe... she just liked Rise of the Tomb Raider more?

How dare she!

Personally I don't care one way or another. I'm getting both, because I love the Uncharted series and I loved the Tomb Raider reboot as well.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

You are telling me that multiplayer is worth 0.2 points? Really?

And they say scores are not math, but this new review i progress things has turned scores into it. Meanwhile, RoTR 9.3 with no MP... Yeah right IGN!

[S2Killinit]

IGN can suck something or another with their "review in progress". Bunch of crooks.

[Der_Kommandant]

Anything less than 10 is insulting.

[fatsodubmo]

Oh, so the multiplayer is better than the single player in UC4? That makes sense.

[NotEvenMyFinalForm]

the mp made the game .2 better which made the score to go from 8.8 to a 9. lol

[fatsodubmo]

They rated the single player at 8.8. They already knew what the multiplayer was like from the Beta. So....the multiplayer being better than the single player would be the only reason for them to raise the total score....complete trash, but thats what they did.

[Dyldog69]

There are some implausibilities in the storyline that become evident around chapter chapter 3-4.there are Some questionable story elements that seem to be put in play at potential risk of fault to drive the storyline. It's stretched as thin as it could possibly get being the 4th installment. The game is more narrative driven than previous entries which I enjoy but that emphasis also acts as a reveal for a story that's being revisited to avoid being done to death. That's my only criticism of the game and I'm not sure how I'd deduct for that from an overall score considering how overwhelmingly successful the game is in all other areas. Any thoughts?

[GoldenJoystick]

I give It a 8.5 so far, by no means a perfect games, has alot of faults. I still Rise of the tomb raider is a much better game and I think quantum break has better gunplay and action segments.

[MasterCornholio]

Thanks for sharing your opinion. I'm sure plenty of people will agree with it and disagree with it. Doesn't mean either group is wrong though.

[G20WLY]

LMFAO!!! XD

Each to their own, but straight up, stop mucking about lol

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Of course you would I've seen you in almost every uc review thread trolling so your opinion means nothing. Lol rotr wishes it was as good as uc I've played both and rotr was really good but uc 4 is on another level and quantum break please lol I really enjoyed my time with the game but if it wasn't for the time powers that gunplay would be average at best and shit at worst and action segments lol the only memorable one was the bridge sequence

[StormLegend]

Now that's a lot better IGN!!

[geddesmond]

I log on to see how the game is as it will be weeks before i get to play it. Read a few peoples comments below and remember why I now stay away from gaming discussions and forums.

Sorry folks. This is IGN they don't want to give UC4 a 10/10 because they'd be accused of being Sony fanboys. But why should it matter what the game scored. When I have that game in my PS4 and I start playing it for myself. I know I'll be in for some great gaming gold and that I'll get at least a year out of playing the game online. To hell with review score.

[rainslacker]

They'll get blasted either way. Maybe the reviewer really thought it wasn't worth a 10. The game isn't flawless, but it does excel in more ways than any other game available....at least that I'm familiar with. Overall, being about half way through, I'd be hard pressed to see how it could get below an 8.5. The story would really have to take a dive going forward, and the game play would have to start being very boring to bring it below a 9-9.5 for me.

However, I doubt if IGN gave it a 10 they'd get any heat worthy of consequence. The game is getting tons of 9's and 10's so it would just be considered in line with everyone else with only the fanboys of competing consoles being upset about it.

[MSF89]

My only problem with Uncharted series is it with the gameplay it's so boring

[G20WLY]

^Utter bollocks :o)

[Pancit_Canton]

Maybe you are the problem, not the game.

[Kemo_Spear]

My only problem with MSF89's posts is that they are so boring

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Rekt

[cyberwaffles]

The gameplay is awesome. It just needs customizable weapons, first person zoom/ADS, and possibly crouch and prone options. It would make the game feel much more tactical if they did this but its still fun.

[CoryHG]

If this was an xbox exclusive, it would have gotten a 10.

[Morgue]

I really don't know what too say about UC4 except maybe that I allowed the internet to somewhat ruin it. I'm on chapter 11 and it's a beautiful game, the pacing is good, the controls are solid but it's the fact that the seed of what happens too someone ( who I don't know ) was planted a while back ago and it has kinda affected the way I have played the game. From the minute I started playing it I only wanted too know what happens at the end. I never really cared for Drakes relationship with Elaina and now I've came too the conclusion that while in the video game world " Drake loves her " and they're " supposed " to have this great relationship and blah.... So why do what he did? Now Drake comes off as a selfish jerk who albeit the task at hand is really only concerned for himself regardless of the consequences. Even Sully and his brother. No matter how many people they kill, double cross, lie, cheat or steal from their only concern is wealth and they are willing to sacrifice anything too attain it. Even death or the loss of someone they love.

If you strip away the over the top gun battles and exaggerated leaps of faith, the Uncharted series is a perfect example of the world we live in told through a rather compelling story spread over 4 games and a person's journey to find out who he really is when in reality, he only needs to look inside himself.

Next to the Last Of Us. It's hands down the best game/series I've ever played. 10/10

[rainslacker]

Not sure if you've finished chapter eleven or not, but some of what your asking is explained at the end of it. I just finished it myself before hopping on here for a brake.

To this, and to not give potential spoilers for beyond where you might be,

I'd say that it plays more into the story trope of a husband lying to someone he loves to help someone else he loves. Drake isn't particularly selfish, however, the premise of at least the first two games was that he was an explorer and treasure hunter at heart. The story playing out here is more about him fighting between his nature, and keeping that which he loves. The two main things pulling at him in the story are representative of these two aspects of his character, and the motives for this adventure are not particularly selfish, but he proceeded to go along with it in a selfish way. As the story progresses, he's remembering what he enjoys about it. However, at the same time, I can say that so far in the story, despite his excitement for finding the answers and treasure, he seems less into the act of actually getting there due to him having lied to Elena.

[cyberwaffles]

I'll admit, Drake and his crew are mostly vagabonds and slightly criminal. I think I like the narrative being that there really is no such thing as a good vs evil plot that is normally portrayed in the media and that people are ultimately trying to survive, even if it doesn't come off as heroic. The world is a stoic place.

[xrapperkdx]

Really enjoying the story so far.

The multiplayer on the other hand not so much..

[Mike04]

9 is a good score no complains about it, no issue regarding decimal points extra on their reviews.

Just like here in Canada 1cent is no problem for us, (coz we dont have 1 cent coin anymore) its either we pay 5 cents extra or the cashier will forget about it lmao..

[Realms]

IGN has no stones if they did they would have stuck with their initial review this just proves they did it to create traffic to their site by creating controversy anyway buy U4 it's awesome must play for PS4 owners.

[Defiantmac]

To me the whole rating system has gotten a little bit odd. Some games with great stories that stray away from the typical game may get knocked for being a bit different. Others get rewarded for it. Some games that don't do anything different than their predecessors may end up with a 9 or 10 even though they aren't very special.

I feel like 9-10 should be can't pass this up type of game and something you will remember 10 years down the road. I hope I end up playing Uncharted 4 and feeling like 9 is underrating the game. This is the impression I get with all the incredibly high scores it is receiving.

[KillerPwned]

I wont be able to get this game till next week so my question is does the review contain spoilers?

[Good-Smurf]

Just got myself a copy of this Masterpiece even though I only have $120 left to spend this month.
I'm only at chapter 8 I can tell you it really deserves a 10 and the moment I knew this will get a 10,a magazine about Bangkok and Elena mentioned it,she mentioned my hometown!

[ALowlyRock]

Oh, thank god it's a 9 now and not that absolutely disgusting 8.8. I can finally enjoy Uncharted 4 and sleep peacefully at night.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Looool

[GMW]

The review was full of backhanded compliments and rather salty because of it. Lol!!

[AmUnRa]

O

[AmUnRa]

no not whole the reviewers at IGN, only Lucy O'Brien, she can't NEVER review a game anymore. Give her a job at the mailroom, there she can do no harm anymore...

[Tankbusta40]

Now Now, I am perfectly fine with her reviewing glu moblie games such as Kim Kardashian Hollywood and the Upcoming Britney Spears game!

[S2Killinit]

IGN is the scum of the game journalism world.

[WelkinCole]

I can't help but feel like Lucy was just looking for some reason to mark it down because Amy is no longer in charge.

Personally U4 is better than all previous Uncharted literally everyone I know that have played previous Uncharted agrees. This ofcourse is from my end.

[PlatinumGX]

So, Evolve is better than Uncharted 4 according to IGN? Lol, good to know. And people still take this scores seriously, lmao.

[Vanfernal]

The third act was bloated because it drank too much water. 7/10

[opinionated]

Ign buckled and gave it a 9 lol. The troll is strong in uncharted fanboys.

[Realms]

IGN or any website or critic can give U4 whatever score they want but that doesn't change the popular opinion that this game is a 9 or 10 for a lot of people that have actually played it. I would give a 10 out 10 because the visual and story telling is are above average and they have set the bar for games this year.

[opinionated]

I agree, they can. Any website can also buckle to popular opinion. Popular opinion would also say that the last of us is better than uncharted. They are two different games though. Uncharted 4 is more like the last us than uncharted. That's a good thing for popular opinion. In my opinion that sucks, the 8.8 was generous if she feels the same way I do.

The fact is they buckled to fanboy tears. Not that I cared in the first place. The only reason I even read the review was to see what people were crying about. To no surprise it was indeed nothing. Simply Internet butthurt over .2.

[Realms]

@ Stonewall

So a mediocre game like Evolve get's a higher score than U4 and your telling me that IGN's review process isn't suspect. Whatever man it's your opinion and if you think that U4 sucks that's fine by me but their such a thing as consensus meaning a vast majority disagree with IGN's initial review in progress take. Which brings up the question why give a score to a review in progress to begin with? Oh wait it wasn't intended to be click bait to create traffic to their site. At the end of the day I don't care what IGN or any critic have to say about the game the only opinion that matters is mine I have enjoyed U4 thus far it's totally worth the money and I would recommend it to any gamer.

[jer1122]

This review makes me cringe hear me out. Lucy the reviewer gave rise of Tomb Raider 9.3. Rise of Tomb Raider was a good game but it's not better or even close to Uncharted 4. I have played both games I have not beaten Uncharted but I've played half way through it. I don't even see how its in the same league. Uncharted 4 and naughty dog are so far ahead of everybody in storytelling and the set pieces I don't even get how they're real. In her review for Tomb Raider she even says the combat is meh. She basically is saying Tomb Raider had a better story and that's why it got better review. Once again I'll say Tomb Raider was good but the story was so so all the characters besides Lara were terrible. Uncharted 4 is on another level and it has a better story and good mp. The reason tomb raider got a high score is because it was a woman reviewing the game with a lead woman protagonist I'm sorry it's the truth. No one in their right mind could think that Tomb Raider had a better story.

[Tankbusta40]

Ign is all about the clicks, its not a reliable review site anymore.

[MBobko55]

I just Dont Understand Why PPL get so mad over a Review its there opinion. Did that .2 Change really help make your decision to buy the game.. Cause if 8.8 is a bad score then i might as well throw away all the games ive bought over years.

[tmisellati]

i still can't understand how a game like U4 get 8 or 9.
any reviewer who score this game less than 9.5 should seek a doctor

[SynestheticRoar]

Lucy no. What has transpire here. They broke you. Similar to a old street tramp in a run down neighborhood. Every young buck stepping to the plate and having their way with you. Until you retired from your position. Pun intended. You champion every fanboy loser in this console war. You read the comments. Even now these xbots are coming to your rescue. You didn't stick to your guns. So unfortunate. Now your verbal statements means less than nothing. They have no importance, and no respect.

[James Vanderbeek]

Just from playing the warm up rounds and trail runs on the multiplayer I already know this game is going to be great. I just don't see how ign gave black ops 3 a 9.2. that game is horrid and I couldn't play more than a day of it. call of duty 4 remastered will be better than all the recent call of duty games which is sad

[Psytrix]

I see she scored Tomb Raider 9.3 which is surprising. Is it a better game? (Haven't played it yet.)

[Bruh]

Since when is 9/10 a bad score?? lol

[Germany7]

She is worried about spreading the feminist agenda and not talking about games.

[PistolsAtDawn]

9/10 is about what I would put it at so far. Fantastic game with great voice-acting and story telling. The game looks great as well, and I love that it's not combat to combat to combat. The game is a little more linear than I expected and the controls are clunky...there isn't quite enough exploring....but over all a fantastic game. Typical ND game...very solid fantastic game (but very over-rated by some people).

The ONLY thing I really dislike about the game isn't really the game's fault at all. It's the mob of people that won't let you criticize ANYTHING about the game, no matter how small. It just comes across as people wanting to say the game is perfect, so they can flaunt it in a stupid fanboy war, like "See PS has perfect games"...I see that attitude as pathetic...I just love great games like this, no matter which system...but like all games, I see it isn't perfect. In the long term I think over-inflating games will hurt gaming...and I don't like that.

[GoodnessGreatness]

They gave Uncharted 3 a 10/10 and this a 9? Something's not right.

[Ceaser9857361]

people fighting over decimal points here... :P enjoy the game and careless what reviews has to say or what some haters have to say.... you guys cant please everyone... a guy said he didnt like UC4 coz the game aint on PC and it would look better.. I knew he was a troll and avoided answering him.. So far UC4 is the best in the series, though i loved UC2 a lot..

[kenwonobi]

The backlash is because they are full of S&%%. I'm watching this game right now. It's literally the greatest game ever graphically I have ever seen. So far also the best game ever. So much like a movie. I can't even believe the details. Their 9 is a lie. It is a perfect 10 like everyone else is scoring it. Enjoy PS4 players. Wow. Never been this impressed just watching another person play a game. It's not even my turn yet.

[cluclap]

This is the ONLY game that makes me sad to be a PC only gamer. Might have to grab a PS4 this summer

[kenwonobi]

I guarantee you if anything outscores this it's an injustice. It's clearly a class above any game released so far exclusively this generation. It ouclasses any in graphics quite easily as well.

[HeyYouGuyz]

Oh look, they're getting all of the attention and clicks they wanted by trolling you with that 8.8 earlier...

[kenwonobi]

It's still a troll review. Justifying their 8.8 single player review by only tacking on a .2 adding multiplayer into the mix. It's the last review I ever even click on from them. I'm gonna ignore IGN forever. Plenty of other options.

[holdmyown83]

I give it a 9.9 only because of the lack of multiplayer modes released.

[N0vasphere]

IGN- 9/10 "too much climbing"

[shadowT]

Just spent some hours with Uncharted 4. It is setting new standards in this gen. Love it!

[Rute]

I think UC4 deserves at least 9.28

[MSF89]

9.29 better

[MSF89]

Come on guys the gameplay didn't revolutionized since the first one gunplay is boring give me weapons customization,leveling system and boss fight.
climbing gun fight climbing some dump a** puzzles climbing etc..
Graphics and story are top notch though