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The next Zelda should learn from the few things Twilight Princess did well

AVclub: Beyond the clever dungeons and toxic lethargy, Twilight Princess has subtle flecks of unfulfilled potential. It approaches some of the series’ foundational elements—combat, scope, world building—in more sophisticated ways, expanding on them with ideas that would become trendy in the years to come thanks to games that carried the torch of its primordial ancestors. It never fully commits to any of its renovations, instead meekly falling back on the template set by Ocarina Of Time. This re-release only serves as a reminder of how tired and outdated that template is, and by doing so, puts even more pressure on Nintendo’s mysterious upcoming Zelda game to reinvent the series. Luckily, Twilight Princess’ half-measures provide a few intriguing directions for that reconstruction.

Neonridr3358d ago

my thoughts exactly. TP was a fantastic game.

htogaming3359d ago

Great Article but I can not read that much :/

Zelda was a great series and I specially enjoyed the title The Legend of Zelda. Oh the great old days.

higgins783358d ago

The next Zelda game (IMO) should have definitely built upon Skyward Swords Motion Plus mechanic. Screw the naysayers - many of which I'd wager didn't play the bloody thing - it was as much a shot in the arm akin to Resi Evil 4 for that particular franchise.

Pullmywaffle3358d ago

Oh yes, swinging in diagonals and resyncing the calibration twice an hour made for SUCH an engrossing zelda experience. I hope after star fox zero bombs when no one can get behind miyamoto's weird obsession of cramming motion controls into everything he touches, we're done with motion controls for awhile. They had their time, and it's over

higgins783358d ago

OR to be read as 'I fear change'.

remixx1163358d ago (Edited 3358d ago )

I beat it twice does my opinion count??

It was a breath of fresh air but it's as if someone farted right before you inhaled.

The games world was small, with the constant resetting of motion controls and abhorrently telegraphed enemy attacks just made the controls feel gimmicky.

You couldn't explore the majority of the world at night and FI was half compass half Google translator.

The best parts of the game were the villains, gharahim and demise as well as the last 3 dungeons and their subsequent boss fights were stellar.

It was an OK LoZ game. You wanna play a breath of fresh air thenot play LoZ windwaker, it has its flaws as well but damn it was good.

Now I patiently wait for Otakudjking to come in and tell me I'm wrong and defend the game to the ground.

Ark_3358d ago

"I beat it twice does my opinion count??

It was a breath of fresh air but it's as if someone farted right before you inhaled."

... why would you do that twice?

remixx1163358d ago (Edited 3358d ago )

Hmmmmm, Sony boy.....I see now, you tryna console war this thing huh.

Your a clown dude. What you maddd bro, you mad because I have a negative opinion about one of your precious nintendo games. Well if it makes you happy I thought the order 1886 and knack were pretty damn bad.

Nobody even mention Sony in this thread clown, hell I've probably beaten more legend of Zelda games than you. Not to mention every game has faults.......super Mario sunshine has a ridiculous amount of faults but I proably put more hours into that than most people put into skyrim.

Grow up clown and admit some other people just have different opinions.......wait Otakudjking is that you? Damn bro you changed accounts, I preferred your old name to be honest.

higgins783358d ago

'Ive probably beaten more LOZ games than you'...*cringe". Please, lets try and erase you ever said that, f**king child. First, you may have - I doubt it - but you may have. That perhaps proves little more than you have more time on your hands than me. Anyhow, this isn't and never was a 'ive completed/played more games than you' kiddie party.

Also, nice to see you admitting 2 readily acknowledged crap games as being just that, CRAP. Now, do you want a round of applause or something?

Sirk7x3357d ago

Even with some of the gripes I had with Skyward Sword, it still remains one of the best games I've ever played. I would really (REALLY) like to see an HD and streamlined version of it surface someday.

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higgins783358d ago

@Ark_

About to say the same thing exactly. Contradicting views much> LOL.

remixx1163358d ago (Edited 3358d ago )

What's contradicting about my point???

I beat it twice but I still don't think it's as good a LoZ game as most,

Miss me with that LOL bullsh*t. I never said the game was bad, if you read my post then you'd see I point out the flaws which were primarily motion control related and the lack luster world design.

Hell I'll probably beat it again before the next LoZ because I actually like the game but it's flaws are very......apparent.

higgins783358d ago

Beat a game THREE times and still complain its riddled with faults!? Even better.

Keep digging that hold sonny boy...

lizard812883358d ago

Empty Over world
Useless Items outside of that 1 boss's weakness
Hawk Soaring
Long tutorial, like fishing for a cat and carrying a baby
Sumo Wrestling
Dowsing
Animal Transformation only useful during said events
Bland Citizens
No side Quest aside from Bug Catching

....How about no. TP was pretty bad. Midna & the OoT callback were the only good thing about that game.

remixx1163358d ago

Lol carefull talking negative in here bro, Higgins might come after you with his opinions.

higgins783358d ago

WTF!? You've made a new Zelda game - fusing TP and SS as you have. Weird. Interesting, but weird. Perhaps if you had a soul you would look past half a dozen bullet points and see the game as a whole. Epic, innovative AND moreish.

Geekman3358d ago

Sumo wrestling was awesome.

Fuck you.

Big_Game_Hunters3358d ago

I agree, Thew new zelda should take most from skyward sword.

Sirk7x3357d ago

I played Twilight Princess originally when it first released, and in my teenage years, I never cared for it. I always thought it was a bland copy and paste of OoT. After picking up the HD version, and playing through it again with an older mind, I found myself greatly appreciating the brilliant subtleties that I'd overlooked before and realized it was a perfect sequel to it. The story is fantastic, and alot of the environments add to it. Patches of stonework in woods that reveal civilizations of long past, ancient hieroglyphs found in deserts added layers to everything that was going on in the world. I found the pacing and the story in great harmony (aside from a hiccup or two), and in replay, I realize I, back then, just didn't understand how good of a game it really was.

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Knightofelemia1004d ago

I want a Twilight Princess HD for the Switch I would day one it right now.

GoodGuy091004d ago

This holiday would've been great and it would've calmed my hunger for tears of the kingdom. It supposedly exists but why has it taken this long I wonder. Here's hoping it still releases before totk, maybe a trailer at the game awards and a shadow drop.

Double_O_Revan1004d ago

I wouldn't hope too hard. The Metroid Prime Trilogy or even just Prime 1 remaster supposedly exists and has been complete for several years now. Either Nintendo are evil bastards, or everyone claiming it's existence is full of shit. Frankly, I believe both scenarios to be true.

Immagaiden1004d ago

Wii U was such a great to play every 3D Zelda game and various 2D ones as well

It'd be nice if Switch caught up to that wealth of legacy content

Inverno1004d ago

Booted up WW HD through emulation on Deck. Forgot how much I like that game, it's so charming with how expressive Link is. Ninty has taken too long.

ZeekQuattro1004d ago

Nintendo wants the focus on tears of the kingdom. Though with these year Zelda old rumors I question if the collection ever existed for the Switch. Much like the Prime Trilogy that evolved into a remake or remaster of just Prime 1 in recent months.

GaboonViper1035d ago

I am a huge Zelda fan and love them all, but for me Ocarina Of Time is the greatest and my second all time favourite game after Final Fantasy VII.

LoveSpuds1034d ago (Edited 1034d ago )

You sir, have good taste in games :)

I also love all of the Zelda games but I adore Windwaker (Specifically the HD version on WiiU) most of all. It is a close run thing with Breath of the Wild though.

Special mention to Cadence of Hyrule too, what an awesome spin off title that was!

GaboonViper1034d ago

Cheers Spuds, yep i love Windwaker too, beautiful artstyle, and i loved sailing and finding all the secrets out there.

blackbeld1034d ago

Agreed. For me top 3 of all time is.

1. ocarina of time
2. Final fantasy Vll
3. MGS1

GaboonViper1034d ago

Brilliant top 3, would love a MGS1 remake that has been rumoured.

LoveSpuds1034d ago

Yup, hard to argue with that top 3 squire, some quality games right there!

-Foxtrot1035d ago

Oh gee can't imagine what Number 1 is

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A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker etc is better than Breath of the Wild.

lockedongamer11035d ago

I respectfully disagree, but they're all great games.

porkChop1035d ago

I think it really depends on what you're looking for. If you want a traditional Zelda game then OoT or WW would be better to you. But if you want a Zelda game that really leans into adventure and exploration, and if you want intelligent systems/logic, BotW would be the better game.

I enjoy both. I understand why some people aren't fond of it but for me it was a breath of fresh air that I really needed. I'd become so burnt out on unimaginative games and BotW sort of made me appreciate games again, as weird as that may sound.

godofboobees1034d ago

Those are not traditional Zelda games

Crows901034d ago

Right...so let's pretend ocarina of time didnt have exploration, secret dungeons and other secrets. Complex boss mechanics and exploration rewards. At least a traditional Zelda has dungeons.

porkChop1034d ago

What point are you attempting to make? At no point did I say that OoT didn't have any of that. However, the level of exploration and sense of adventure are vastly different between OoT and BotW.

Brazz1034d ago

Breath of the Wild is overrated as shot, Wind waker is much better.

P_Bomb1035d ago

I’m a Link to the Past guy.

MadLad1034d ago

Majora's Mask still holds as my favorite to this day, despite being the black sheep of the series.

pietro12121034d ago

I love them all, but Wind Walker, Link to the Past and Minish Cap are my favorites

John_McClane1034d ago

Link to the Past was so, so good! Those chickens though! 🤣

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