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Dark Souls 1 Xbox One vs Xbox 360 Gameplay Frame-Rate Test

Dark Souls 1 was added to the Xbox One backward compatibility list yesterday - so how well does it run on Microsoft's latest console. Tom and Rich discuss the issue.

CoNn3r_B3341d ago (Edited 3341d ago )

Eat your heart out Blight Town.

I still don't understand how this "superior" console can't run last gen games. If it's such a problem fix your damn emulator.

Concertoine3341d ago

10 years later there still isnt a good 360 emulator on PC. It's not an easy thing to do at all.

meche3343341d ago

It can run last gen games you dummy. The BC runs the xbox one equal to 360 specs or else it'll knock game optimization that was done for the 360 out of wack

TheCommentator3341d ago

Emulators, as a general rule, take about 10x the overall processing ability of the console they are trying to emulate in order to run properly. Everyone in the industry agreed that there was no way to run BC on either XB1 or PS4 because of how underpowered they both are, and because of how different their architectures are compared to last gen as well. Then MS made it happen in spite of all of these challenges.

Furthermore, there have been other games that ran poorly on BC when introduced that received patches that fixed their framerates, while other games run better on BC than one 360. Since each game is unique, each game requires attention in order to make it work.

t-hall7853341d ago

Playing it now. No problems. This framerate/resolution thing is seriously getting out of hand. Lets all get back to is the game fun/not fun convo.

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DragonDDark3341d ago (Edited 3341d ago )

+Funny Lol good one.

Caedus5113341d ago

@Jmanzare that was so funny I almost fell out of my chair.

Perjoss3341d ago

Next you'll be asking why are there so many souls...

sullynathan3341d ago

Dark souls ran poorly on every platform it was on. The pc version with 15 fps is terrible

Perjoss3341d ago

Sure if you're trying to run it on a pc built 15 years ago maybe. Never ran anywhere near as low as 15 fps on mine, and it wasn't even top of the range components.

sullynathan3341d ago

let me guess, you used DSFix or one of the mods to improve performance?

roland823341d ago

With the dsifix Dark Souls runs a constant 60 fps for me

sullynathan3341d ago

That's the problem. The game runs well with a mod installed, not outside the box. I used DSFix too but without it I get a cool steady 15 fps.

Its a good thing that Scholar of the first sin was a good port in terms of performance.

esmittystud1013341d ago

Until this video, I could find nothing on this game and B.C. footage on X1. I'm glad they made it availible. Just wanted to see how it runs on X1, and I'm not dissapointed. Every From Software game has its flaws but they make up for it 1000 times over with there content. My copy of Dark Souls for Xbox 360 should be here tomorrow, along with DS:II SOTFS on PS4.

Bloodborne had issues as well.....but I didn't even care. I loved that game so much that it overshadowed the framedrops completly. They will smooth things out a tad I'm sure with DS:III if its having the same issues. But no game out today is perfect on consoles. They all have there cons.

example: Just Cause 3 on PS4. Its unplayable right now its so bad.

meche3343341d ago

Im playing JC3 on xbox one and its playable but theres this online login glitch that im getting. and i have to wait 5 min for it to fix itself before i can continue

esmittystud1013341d ago

Mine was decent until the last update.

NotanotherReboot3341d ago

Pc version with Ds fix is the way forward

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50 Best PS3 Games of All Time

The PlayStation 3 is Sony’s most interesting home console ever, but what’s most interesting of all is trying to nail down the very best games on a console with hundreds of incredible games. Let’s give it a shot.

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darthv7276d ago

Personally, I'd rank Pacific Rift in my top 10. It's the best of the series.

badz14975d ago

We desperately need Motorstorm back. Evolution is no more though and this makes me sad

Cacabunga75d ago

Sly Thieves in Time
Stay the Party
Portal 2
Dj Hero
Demon’s Souls
God of war Ascension

rudero75d ago

2 of those games got railed through the “gaming media” during release.
Sly and god of war.
Both of which were fantastic games.

Cacabunga74d ago

Ascension is VERY underrated. Remake please!

Venoxn4g75d ago

Decent list.. I would put the Castle Crashers as well..

1Victor75d ago

Yes it’s a decent list of popular games with a heavy hand on FPS and no Warhawk or Starhawk 2 of the best games (not sale wise) on ps3.
I would buy a Starhawk again even if it didn’t have a graphics upgrade hell I would even take a new one with micro transactions 😱🤯

Profchaos75d ago

I've noticed a recent nostalgia for the PS3 and I don't get it for me it's been my least favourite generation to date and I've been gaming since the NES I just feel like the ambition of the developers outweighed the capabilities of the consoles so I remember lots of games running in the lower end of 20fps range and I remember for the first time ever actually disliking the duelshock 3 and it's curved triggers

Sure there were some standouts and great games but that's the only gen I switched entirely to PC gaming

darthv7275d ago

Maybe the recent nostalgia is because pretty much all of its games are trapped on that console. People want to play them on more modern hardware. hell... if XB can do it then so can Sony. there are competent emulators out there that can run on PS4/5 hardware but Sony just wont let them become official... why is that?

If we are talking least favorite generations (personally) then this one is certainly mine. i had more fun playing 8th, 7th and 6th gen stuff than 9th. And it isnt like i dont have access to do so... the heavy hitters just havent shown up anywhere close to those previous gens. The few here and there just doesnt cut it compared to the likes of constant good games that showed up in 6th, 7th and 8th gen. hell.... I'll even throw in 5th gen has been better than this one.

Profchaos75d ago

I tend to agree there's lots of amazing games locked to the PS3 like GTA IV or mgs 4 but then again my issue was never with the content the PS3 had but rather it's performance many other people have said the PS3 felt like it couldn't walk and chew bubblegum at the same time using PSN and downloading a game could take a few minutes to just start a download.

I typically don't worry all that much about performance I've never had a problem with games that run at 30 but games like crysis 2, Skyrim are good examples where the performance was so unstable you would never even touch the top of the frame cap and the hitching was worse than say Goldeneye on the n64

I think emulation is more than possible on the ps5 though it's just that Sony has no incentive to rush it's development it will likely be a ps6 feature if it ever happens at all.

But yeah the 9th gen has been so bad from a content perspective thats a given I see constant articles where people are frequently expressing their disappointment around the industry as a whole right now to much live service competition that sinks longstanding studios and consumes Devs time less ambition and games cost so much to make they have to play it safe.

The 5th gen was easily better than the 9th we had some all time greats crash, Spyro, Tony hawk, mgs, Mario,64, Goldeneye, Mario kart 64 the list goes on. The 5th gave us a new dimension and I remember being blown away by how much more open gaming had become the 4th gen with the mega drive and SNES was great and very easy to still revisit some of the greatest games of all time came out like earthbound, secret of mana, sonic , Mario world etc but saving our games was still not a standard function or a given so gaming was still evolving but it was very impressive to see some of the tricks Devs used like dithering to give us new experiences those earlier gens limitations bred innovation.

Michiel198975d ago

if XB can do it so can sony? I didn't know xbox had a cell processor in their older consoles, that's the reason why ps3 was so cool, but also the reason why games are hostage there and no, xbox did nothing similar even though their backward compatbility is good, they always had a similar architecture to their consoles.

darthv7274d ago

Sorry Michael... I guess you missed the obvious part where i said there are already emulators out that do this. and that is what XB is doing... emulators for OG and 360 games. Its why the full slate is not BC on XBO/Series.

coolbeans75d ago (Edited 75d ago )

The list is missing Folklore.

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FromSoftware didn’t want Sony to publish Dark Souls due to how Demon’s Souls was treated

Former SIE president Yoshida explained that Sony wanted to work on the sequel to Demon’s Souls with FromSoftware, but the developer turned it down and instead decided to work with Bandai Namco on what would become Dark Souls.

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Luc2086d ago

Not sure what Sony was thinking. Wrong people testing the game. It was my favourite game from the PS3 days. Had to import it from Canada because it wasn't available in Europe at the time. Then I bought it again when a local version was available. It was fun to play online and get two separate platinum.

Cacabunga86d ago

I understand, sony acting so cocky when it came out. But they quickly realized what they were missing on. I remember an interview of Yoshida saying clearly he hated the game.

SDuck86d ago

"But they quickly realized what they were missing on."
So they've been sleeping on Bloodborne too

RaiderNation86d ago (Edited 86d ago )

Sony didn't realize what they had with Demons Souls. It happens. Marvel approached Xbox to make Spider-Man before they went to Sony and Phil Spencer said "thanks but no thanks". You win some, you lose some. Personally I wasn't THAT bowled over by Demons Souls either when it launched on PS3. I thought it was slow and clunky. The remake on PS5, however, is fantastic! So I get why Sony was lukewarm on the franchise. I dont know if anybody could've foreseen what From Software would eventually become.

Palitera86d ago

To be fair, not even From Software knew the huge success it would become. Their revenue target was tiny, as already confirmed by Miyazaki.

LoveSpuds86d ago (Edited 86d ago )

Exactly, these nipple head 'journalists' trying to spin this into a story to wield against Sony are ignoring the fact that hindsight is 20/20.

As you correctly point out, Demons Souls was incredibly niche at the time so it's not a surprise that Sony were cautious about investing huge amounts into advertising and support etc.

Pyrofire9586d ago

You can't just find the RIGHT people. This kind of thing didn't exist yet. FROMSOFTWARE started something huge and you could never see it unless you happen to get someone who not only gets a gut instinct but also the will and authority to act on it. You can't look back from 2025, you have to see it in a 2009 landscape. And Demon's Souls didn't even hit big, it wasn't until Dark Souls that it all started hitting, shortly after it's release in 2011.

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GamingSinceForever86d ago

Hey sometimes you just can’t see the potential.

It’s like the Chicago Bears moving up in the draft to take Trubisky over Pat Mahomes.

Pyrofire9586d ago

I don't know one ounce of these sports teams, but yes, exactly like that.

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jznrpg86d ago

I bought the Japanese version of Demons Souls before US release. Me and my friend heard about it from an online friend in Japan. It took a while for it to become popular in the US. It was a new IP with nothing like it at the time and it wasn’t easy to play obviously. Eventually word of mouth spread about it and sales picked up after launch. I don’t think anyone could have seen how big it would be at the time. It was considered very niche and hardcore games were minimal.

Scissorman86d ago

I do wonder if we'll ever see Demon's Souls 2. Sony clearly wanted it. FromSoftware's subsequent releases penetrated the mainstream in ways the developer likely never imagined. Any stigma or negative perception around the original game's release has long passed. Bluepoint's remake sold very well on PS5. I think the time has come to visit the IP that started it all.

ocelot0786d ago

With Sony now firmly in bed with Kadokawa now. I think a Demon's Souls 2 and/or Bloodborne 2 is fairly likely.

Pyrofire9586d ago

They also seem to not want to get on Fromsoft's bad side or undercut them in any way. I think it's completely up to FS. (which is kinda funny cause FS themselves makes weird moves with their games whenever it's not Miyazaki helming the project. ie DS2 and Nightreign)

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30 Years Ago, Elden Ring And Dark Souls Dev FromSoftware Released Its "Mind-Boggling" Debut

Today marks the 30th birthday of King's Field, a PlayStation title with an incredible legacy – and one which some Western players might be unaware of.

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Pedantic91151d ago

If only they would remake or make a sequel to shadow tower abyss.

Babadook7151d ago

I remember. It showed potential for a new type of action RPG.

Loktai151d ago (Edited 151d ago )

I still have my original release PS1 long box King's Field right here on my shelf. Great game., Looks better on a CRT than you can really appreciate in emulators or screenshots too, or Im just nostalgic. Note: actually it would be kings field 2 in japan but released here as kings field, so I guess its the second game. Great none the less.

gold_drake150d ago

i recently played it, its pretty good

Grilla150d ago (Edited 150d ago )

It was great. I always wondered what happened to the series/developer. Wasn’t til a few years ago I found out they moved on to the souls games. It’s nice to see them get the appreciation they deserve.

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