Remedy explains Quantum Break's resolution and anti-aliasing set-up on Xbox One

Remedy has replied back regarding the 720p output of Quantum Break with the following statement:

Quantum Break’s 1080p output is a temporal reconstruction from four previous 720p 4xMSAA frames. This approach gets us high pixel quality in combination with complex shading and effects, allowing us to achieve a cinematic look. However, varying sample counts between passes and temporal upscaling makes talking about resolution, as it is traditionally understood, complicated in the case of Quantum Break. Since the start of “Quantum Break’s” development, the most important thing for Remedy and Microsoft has been delivering a compelling gaming experience with superior artistic quality. This is what Remedy is renowned for. We’re confident that we have achieved this, and can’t wait to hear what fans think on April 5 when they play the game.

[yewles1]

This is the fourth game using temporal reconstruction, right after Killzone Shadow Fall, Fast Racing Neo and Rainbow Six Siege.

[freshslicepizza]

still it does look very good but not as sharp as it could be if it were 900p or 1080p. the lighting and frame rate seem to be right up there though which is good. they have done a good job with the shadowing and particle effects and the level of detail is rather high. pretty impressive i would say for the xbox one.

[mark_parch]

the thing is consoles wouldn't be able to handle all the effects like dynamic real-time global illumination just to name one if they increased the resolution. the game looks stunning and I can't wait to play it

[Christopher]

It looks good. I can't say very good. The visual effects are better than normal. I would not say that the level of detail is high, though, except for the particle effects. Otherwise detail is pretty average as far as game world detail and whatnot.

I think a ton of their issues would be solved if they could have pushed lighting effects closer and closer to 1080p, though. That's what creates soft edges on everything in the game and drowns out some of the detail that is there.

[Trez1234]

All this talk of grapics are a distraction. The game will b great no doubt n just like Alan wake back then, it was all about the overall game n not the graphics ( great art style tho).

I remember the cut scenes were really bad but the actual gameplay looked better in Alan wake.

[rainslacker]

To me, for this game, the techniques side effects of making a softer image actually works because they are going for that TV show type look. While many TV shows are filmed on video instead of film nowadays, the bigger ones still get film which does give this softer, more cinematic look.

The added AA just helps clean up the edges so you don't get as much of that "rendered" look, so it all comes together nicely. It may not be as sharp as some other games, but it's hard to say that the game doesn't look good, despite being a bit soft compared to other games in the same graphical league. It's just a different presentation is all.

[freshslicepizza]

alan wake also had a low resolution but that game looked like it had a glaze over it, kinda like smeared glasses. but i think with this game once you start playing you won't even notice it that much.

[starchild]

That's true. But there are differences in the particulars of each technique being used.

[kowan]

The difference is Shadow Fall is both native 1080p and 1080i(960x1080p). The single player campaign is native 1080p so the game IS 1080p while the multiplayer is like Qbreak, using a temporal reconstruction to make it appear 1080p but is also higher in resolution compared to Qbreak. I think many people here think that Killzone Shadow Fall does not in any way play in native 1080p resolution which is false.

[magiciandude]

The hype for this groundbreaking masterpiece is so real. Game of the year material! :D

[BlakHavoc]

I hope so, we'll see. Honestly I'll be shocked if it doesn't at least receive game of year nominees.

[crazychris4124]

Im going to get it once MS fixes the issues with the windows store

[Rookie_Monster]

Day one! My body is ready.

[christocolus]

I'm not watching anymore QB videos. I'm already impressed by all I've read and seen so far. The devs at Remedy are super talented ..Just waiting for April 5th now.

[lastking95]

Same here, 1 was enough. It's just around the corner, i can make it.....i hope lol.

[christocolus]

Someone on Neogaf just put up pics of what looks like a car chase scene from one of the acts later in the game.not sure if its gameplay or a cutscene but I'm done. No more QB videos for me.

[meche334]

Same. it wasn't even gameplay mechanics that sucked me in. It was the story

[JasonKCK]

lol Why do you need your body?

[christocolus]

“All of this aside, the art direction Remedy has taken
with Quantum Break is definitely beautiful. The
game truly has a filmic look, one that matches the
look and feel of the Live Show that accompanies
the game. Additionally, cutscenes are well detailed,
with Quantum Break showing off some great
character model work on all of the actors. For the
most part, the people you see take a prominent or
lead role in the live show are beautifully rendered
in-game as well.”

Cool. can't wait.

[Mikefizzled]

I think your return key broke

[christocolus]

Lol. It's my crazy mobile phone. browsing, typing , copying and pasting can be a pain.

[Volkama]

The TV show is (likely) streamed at 720p. Logically if you are trying to match up the game to the look of the TV show then spending resource on higher resolution probably isn't going to get you any closer. The techniques they're using to meet that challenge are fascinating.

To be honest the talk of LOD issues and flickering shadows are far more likely to harm the presentation than the low res or soft image.

I'll be interested to see what elements this technique make it over to the PC version, and how much control we'll have over these settings.

[StifflerK]

I don't understand the tech behind it, but I can see that it looks fantastic!

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Agreed...and sadly I think 90%+ of people commenting on this games visuals don't understand the technical side but feel the need to weigh in as resolution experts. IMO it looks fantastic, I only at this point about how it plays and word is that is good too.

[Tedakin]

Resolution aside, this game could be outstanding.

[esmittystud101]

I'm getting this day one on Xbox One. I'm just expecting Xbox One "not to hit the bar" now with new games. It is to be expected on that console. If the game is 720p, so be it I guess. Shame though that console is still playing in the same resolution as Xbox 360 games though but I have come to terms with that.

My biggest issue on my X1 is multiplatform titles though......its really hard to buy an X1 game over a PS4 title. If Xbox One stepped up there game, and out did a PS4 multiplatform title, I would buy there version in a heartbeat......I just haven't seen it yet. But I've come to terms with that now and am not expecting it to.

[donthate]

It will be the best looking game you played on console, because instead of focusing on resolution they put things that matter into the game.

I hope this starts a trend where developers move away from unnoticeable things and focus on what matters visually like FX and better simulations with a more stable frame rate.

Resolution is completely overrated and I bet with a blind test on PC, nobody would be able to even guess what the resolution is.

Don't ruin your own games focusing on resolution!

[Christopher]

***It will be the best looking game you played on console, because instead of focusing on resolution they put things that matter into the game. ***

Wow, talk about a backhanded statement.

Just FYI, some games can achieve 1080p and put what matters into a game. Maybe they aren't as fun for you to play or aren't your type of thing, but they do it nonetheless.

[donthate]

@Christopher:

"Just FYI, some games can achieve 1080p and put what matters into a game. Maybe they aren't as fun for you to play or aren't your type of thing, but they do it nonetheless."

If you get a great game at 1080p, just imagine what they could have done at 720p!

[Christopher]

***If you get a great game at 1080p, just imagine what they could have done at 720p!***

Why stop there! Why not 480p!?!?! Just imagine what you could do when you lower the color palette! /s

Please don't act as if taking away something leads to improving it. The goal is to move forward, not backwards. Sometimes you can't do that and it still looks good, but it's still not advancing.

Remedy made some very hard choices here and they have to live with the results of that. It's not all flowers and sunshine, there are cracks in the facade. The game still looks good, but it is limited because of what they had to do to get it where it is. And this has nothing to do with gameplay, just technical achievement. And while they achieved something, I think it's unfair to claim they achieved more than those who have been able to push hardware in different ways and achieve better looking results.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

It's not really 720p. The on screen image is using temporal reproduction to achieve a good balance between performance and fidelity.

Guerilla Games used it and Killzone looked fantastic.

Here is what Guerilla said:

We keep track of three images of “history pixels” sized 960×1080 The current frame The past frame And the past-past frame For each pixel we store its color and its motion vector – i.e. the direction of the pixel on-screen We also store a full 1080p, “previous frame” which we use to improve anti-aliasing Then we have to reconstruct every odd pixel in the frame:
We track every pixel back to the previous frame and two frames ago, by using its motion vectors By looking at how this pixel moved in the past, we determine its “predictability” Most pixels are very predictable, so we use reconstruction from a past frame to serve as the odd pixel If the pixel is not very predictable, we pick the best value from neighbors in the current frame”
So eagle eyed readers will notice this is in many ways a logical extension to the TSSAA mentioned above where the previous frame was used to act as an anti-aliasing. This is an extremely effective rendering technique in terms of performance vs the fidelity that it creates. It it works and the guess is correct, you’d be hard pressed to find a difference between it and a regular 1080P natively rendered image. If it is “wrong” however you’ll get a vertical line because the two images don’t quite match up.
By combining the two 960 width frames (which is half the width of the full 1920 width) the game can combine these two images and create a full 1920x1080P image. So in other words, it simply keeps a copy of these images its memory buffer (storing that part of the scene) for reference with the next image.
The reason for all of this is simply performance. I’d not personally be surprised, particularly as the generation goes on if more games begin to employ this technique as in effect it means that you’ll get more out of the console. This isn’t a new technique in the sense of it being created for Killzone, and has been used and known about for shadow mapping (wiki for shadow maps) for awhile now.

http://www.redgamingtech.co...

[meche334]

The technique does all allow great graphical fidelity. Thats for sure

[MachuchalBrotha316]

Hey, Im not really a tech wizard, but is this similar to the approach Playground did with Forza Horizon 2? Thanks

[meche334]

Nope. Horizon 2 just did a native 1080p framebuffer. no reconstruction to the image

[butchertroll]

If isn't 720p, why you have bluriness sometimes?

Temporal frames didn't change the fact the game is being rendered natively at 720p UPSCALED to 1080p.

This game doesn't reproject image like Killzone multiplayer. It is similar to Rainbow Six : Siege on PS4 and Xbone :
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"Essentially, this feature renders the game with half the number of pixels on each axis with an ordered grid MSAA pattern before reconstructing the image to match the final output. This is then coupled with a post-process temporal anti-aliasing solution to minimize artefacts in motion. So, at 1080p, we're technically seeing 960x540 with 2x MSAA."

R6 is 540p on PS4 and 450p on Xbone because that technique

[Christopher]

***If isn't 720p, why you have bluriness sometimes? ***

That's a combination of 720p lighting assets and AA. It gives a soft edge to everything in the game, which will come off as blurry to the naked eye.

I made a comment a while ago about how the game looks like you're constantly in a fog, and that's why it was like that.

http://n4g.com/news/1871071...

[rainslacker]

It's upscaled. However, it's not the typical kind of upscaling.

Traditional method of upscaling interpolates the available pixels for a frame, and adds pixels to buffer out the frame. This can give a blurry look to the overall image, particularly when that interpolation isn't an equal denominator between resolutions(which 720 and 1080 aren't). Best way to think of it is when you take an image on your PC, and blow it up. Depending on the image, and the amount of fidelity it has, it can not look as good as the smaller image.

In this method, it's taking four frames, and extrapolating from those four frames what pixels require interpolating(adding to) by the use of some mathematical model which determines how it will look best without degrading the picture quality.

The soft look of QB is more due to the lighting effect being used, which gets it's shader information from an image which isn't as high of a resolution as the frame it's being applied to...thus implying that the shader textures are being upscaled in the more traditional method.

This latter method outputs an actual rendered frame of 1080, even though it's native 720 within the actual frame buffer.

[butchertroll]

Not only lightning is 720p, also is Global Illumination, ambient acclusion.

Bluriness caused by UPSCALED image and bluriness for gameplay purpose are not the same thing.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

If I had to bet...

Two of the four horizontal 720p frames are combined to produce some like a 1440 width frame.

The other two vertical 720p frames are combined to produce another 1440 vertical frame.

So 1440x1440 = 2,073,600 1:1

1920x1080 = 2,073,600 16:9

Apply MSAA, and adjust the scaling of the image to fit most TVs. Of course, under close inspection going frame by frame the pixels in each frame with look softer than a brute forced 1080p image because what you are seeing with temporal reprojection is the predicted path of the pixels on screen: (current pixel, past pixel, past past pixel, and past past past pixel.)

[MCTJim]

Though a decent explanation and i appreciate someone taking the time to explain it somewhat, it will still be called 720p regardless by those who wish the game to fail, dont own an X1 and just generally like to hate on MS which is a shame. I'm happy to play the games companies make regardless of what console its on. This game is going to rock my console and my rig, but not a 4k as my rig wont even be playable at that resolution. Maybe 1440 at 40-60fps, I wont know until I actually tweak it.

[dreadz74]

Excellent break down thank you sir bubble up !

[Volkama]

I'd take that bet. They most definitely are not building and then resizing a square frame by stacking 720pixel edges like that. Sorry.

[rainslacker]

Probably something along those lines. Basically constructing pixel by pixel each frame to create the bigger one, then extrapolating what is the same, what is redundant, and removing what isn't needed to get back to the 1080 frame. MSAA could be applied pre-render to help smooth out the erroneous pixels...and likely is based on the devs description.

The only drawback is that the mathematical model for determining what is redundant or repeated(based on the image changing between samples...like a motion blur effect) isn't going to be 100% accurate at all times, but those erroneous pixels are likely to be spread out across a rather large pixel count, and not be noticeable to the naked eye.

[BossBattle]

If you wanna play it at a higher resolution then get the PC version. MS is giving you both console and pc versions. It should be no problem since everbody already claims to have a gaming pc.

[kraenk12]

They are only doing this for pre-orders plus most people having PC don't have an XBox.

[dreadz74]

Ummm I have both pre ordered to get free PC version. Will play both sometimes from work or home or if kids punk me for my TV.

[rocketscience007]

Thank goodness the pc version is coming, xbox one version looks the so blurry and shadows and LOD is really really bad.

[meche334]

its still gonna look a little blurry because they are aiming for the hazy cinematic feel

[Rute]

Here are some 1920x1080 screenshots from the game to show how it looks on a full HD screen:

http://cdn4.dualshockers.co...
http://cdn3.dualshockers.co...
http://cdn4.dualshockers.co...
http://remedygames.com/wp-c...
http://remedygames.com/wp-c...

[lastking95]

Top 5 best graphics maybe #1

[boodi]

and it looks SUPER-unsharp . extra soft . in fact .

[boodi]

i don't know how you like it . me not very much . worse that i read remedy written 100% game was 1080p for xb1 . but i was dreaming likely

[BlakHavoc]

This game will be awesome, forget about the resolution for once would you people. Have fun with this Xbox users, can't wait to see how well it does.

[ScorpiusX]

Cool, already Pre Ordered

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

Sounds like this game may not look as good as some want...But I do admire the courage of the Xbox supporters in cheering on their selected console no matter how bad things get..

[lastking95]

So it's not exactly 720p, You could tell by looking at the game more was going on under the hood than basic 720p.

[meche334]

Yeah, it just looked too good

[Articuno76]

It's a very heavy AA solution for console games that typically hew closer to FXAA or something akin to 2xMSAA. And interesting that Remedy chose to address image quality with heavy AA paired with a lower resolution rather than the other way around.

Which of those two solutions would have been more impressive? TBH, I don't know, but I know which one would net more bragging rights.

And that's what's sad about this: no one is actually looking at the game, but reading off the spec sheet (and one that's neither comprehensive or intelligible to them).

Think about how ridiculous it is that we know more about the technical side of how a game works than we do about ANY of the other elements in the game or how they work. That THAT is the filter through which all subsequent opinions will be filtered (consciously or not).

That's a case of some messed up priorities.

[pumpactionpimp]

I haven't paid much attention to quantum break. But it would seem on the surface how they are achieving the resolution, effects, and overall quality, would create a fairly perceivable amount of input lag. If they found a way around that I would be incredibly interested in hearing about that work around.

[itsmebryan]

If all people can complain about is a resolution they probably wouldn't have noticed if you weren't told that's fine. But, nobody has anything to say about the game. All of the previews say it's a good game and that is what matters most IMHO.

[Christopher]

Nah, lots of people noticed how 'soft' and 'foggy' the game looked weeks ago and questioned why. Maybe they wouldn't be able to tell the resolution, but people can tell right away that something is going on to limit the sharpness of the game.

Though, I will admit that a lot of people 'here now' don't really care about that. They just want to scream and shout because... well... you know why.

[Hurfs]

Remedy was stated by members of an demo-scene group called Future Crew in there day they pushed PC hardware far past what most people thought it could do! they did this by looking at things differently then main stream coders do, something they still do today. And some thing they have done again with QB if having to drop the res to add what I can see are the best Time skip effects I have ever seen in any game on any console or PC! hell i'm in.

Not that I really have to will be getting on PC :)

[hiawa23]

I am not a picky gamer, so the hardware capabilities of the X1 PS4 I am fine with. I am looking for a good to great gaming experience, and 720P upscaled to 1080P with the artistry and look of the game, I am fine with if this is what the devs had to do to achieve their goals for the title. Almost hilarious to me almost 3 years into this gen, gamers are still fussing over framerates and resolutions for both consoles. Get over it, at this point we know what to expect from the consoles, and this constant whining I see from many gamers with every release is comical. The consoles are what they are, there is no magic sauce that is going to change that.

Another thing that is hilarious to me are the console haters, pc elites, who come out of the wood work to dickslap console gamers, in every, any article relating to this gens consoles resolutions, or framerates. I just play the games so looking forward to this game whatever the resolution is.

[Wallstreet37]

So not 900p or 1080p but mostly hits 720p smh. This day and age there should be no excuse for that idc what effects are going on especially with fans playing both sides of the fence when convenient. The same ppl screaming "oh resolution doesnt matter" scream later on "dx12, cloud, etc will bring the resolution to par with ps4 games lol hypocrisy is real.

Quantum Break is far from a graphical powerhouse

[xasz]

So a game using 4x MSAA, ambient occlusion, and is also the only game this gen to use real time global illumination aside from Tomorrow's Children is "from a graphical powerhouse"?

Do you even know what the hell "resolution" is?

Since when did "resolution" = "graphics"?

[Wallstreet37]

Lol gtfo with tht bs man. In all games there are trade offs, however the reason it has these effects is because the resolution is so disgustingly low and bcus of that they were able to allocate that power they didnt use on rez to the effects. That isnt wonderous to me or makes me say wow!!! It makes me say, ok they screwed the rez just to add nice effects.

Go take that bs to a less informed gamer. Uncharted 4 is also a game that uses techniques and effects other games dont have, yet has an mp, is 1080p on sp and chock full of eye melting graphics. What did they sacrifice? A 900p 60fps mp tht Quantum doesnt have at all and is still higher rez than its sp lol

Thats how you do it. 720p this day in age is disgusting and shouldnt be lauded. No it isnt a graphics powerhouse. If we are strictly talking assets and effects its doing nice things but guess what? Resolution is also part of the equation, well maybe not for you you have to move goalposts lol

[xasz]

Or maybe... Remedy is simply making the game they want to make?

It looks like you have it backwards. They're not going for certain effects and having a bunch of stuff on screen (which is a result of gameplay) because they can't reach 1080p. They can easily sacrifice all that and obtain 1080p. They not chasing after a higher-res because would interfere with want to do with the effects and what can happen on screen.

Alan Wake had a lower resolution than a majority of other games last gen. Remedy didn't go for a higher res, because not only would it have interfered with the look and effects they were trying to go for, but it would have also intefered with what they were trying to do with the gameplay, which was heavily based on the light effects.

Lo and behold, Alan Wake is widely considered one of the best looking games last gen.

But then again, I guess resolution and "pixel counting" really DIDN'T matter last gen, did it?

http://www.playstationlifes...

http://n4g.com/news/353240/...

Whoops! Well, damn...

Once again, you realize "resolution" is not even close to the same thing as "graphics", right? Do you realize a game can be a full native 1080p and still come off looking like crap?

Since when did not looking like Uncharted = "far from a graphical powerhouse"?

Since when did stuff like this not equate to strong graphical fidelity?

http://i.imgur.com/lSV5GTh....

http://i.imgur.com/K3EPEot....

Also, I find it interesting that all you're able to focus on is the number "720p" when even DF has pointed that the game is not even native 720p. Do you even have any idea what the game is doing?

Speaking of, DF themselves even called this game "visually stunning" in their article and even heaped praise on it.

In fact, here is what one of the DF writers have been saying on Twitter:

@SamLakeRMD Blown away but what I've played of QB thus far. Amazing work.
https://twitter.com/dark1x/...

@Nahkapukki I think it's blown way out of proportion. It's one of the best looking, technically accomplished games on XO.
https://twitter.com/dark1x/...

@Nahkapukki It's more that there is a temporal reconstruction in play that has a definite impact on the end results. It's very clean.
https://twitter.com/dark1x/...

@PNF4LYFE @Nahkapukki Nope, it's something different entirely. I've never seen anything quite like it. It works pretty well, actually.
https://twitter.com/dark1x/...

Seems like they consider it visually impressive to me...

Who should I trust... DF or you?

[Wallstreet37]

Again i like how you move goalposts lol When did i say it wasnt visually appealing or impressive? A game can still be appealing or visually impressive but not be a graphical powerhouse. Stop trying to make a point so bad that you cannot make. It hurts you that ppl criticize that its resolution is so low? Deal with it, resolution is also a part of graphics regardless of how big or small you make your goal posts.

Lets put this in perspective, you commented on my comment in which i didnt say it didnt look good but mentioned it being in 720p most of the time, thus disqualifying it from being a graphical powerhouse lol which are facts. At 720p most of the time you are not a "powerhouse" lol and its 30fps lol oh hell nooooo. at least be 1080p or 900 if your going to be 30fps lol your killing me man.

[Slanty]

Still makes me chuckle a little that some people keep telling themselves that gaming at 720 on their 1080 tvs in 2016 on a xbox one is fine.Its all about the game not the graphics they say and that's partly true.

But come on its 2016 people.The game is 720 and to make things worse its 30 fps WTF 30 fps at 720!I ditched my xbox one for gaming and upgraded my pc so glad I did.And by the way I am not a console hater I think the ps4 is a great piece of kit that's does 1080 95% of time for the price of an xbox....I bought a xbox one at release never again ,my own fault what a total rip off.

[starchild]

If you own a gaming PC and are down on XB1 for lower resolutions why aren't you down on the PS4 for having mostly 30fps games? (and some run even lower)

Personally, I can play games 30fps and still enjoy them, but I've been playing 60fps and higher on my PC for so long that it definitely feels like a big step back.

[Slanty]

I Sort of see your point but at least the ps4 can do 1080 and is a proper upgrade for the ps3 the xbox one can do very few games in 1080. I Just think 720 res is a joke.

[Kreisen]

Just like the devs behind The order started using fancy words to cover their game running at 24fps now we have these guys doing the same with theirs running in low res.

If you dont mind thats fine, but dont go around claiming it "doesnt matter" or "there is no difference". There is a huge difference even between 900p vs 1080p.

[MasterCornholio]

Doesn't The Order run in 30FPS?

[Kreisen]

Nope, it was capped at 24fps. Although during shootouts it would drop as low as 15.

[MasterCornholio]

@Kreisen

DF analysis said it was 30FPS. Plus most of the time it ran at that frame rate.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
"As noted in our performance analysis, what's impressive about Ready at Dawn's work is that all of this advanced rendering work does not come at the expense of performance. The Order: 1886 manages to maintain a near-perfect 30fps throughout the experience with only the smallest of dips. The consistency in the quality of the effects work is matched by the frame-rate, further enhancing the title's filmic credentials."

Why are you lying?

Are you sure your not getting confused with another game?

[VJGenova]

The order used 4xmsaa too. It was a pretty game for sure, but wasn't 1920 x 1080. Instead it was 1920 x 800. Which looks more like 720p than 1080p despite what sony fanboys will have you believe. I am sure this game will look great on xbone and even better on pc, if the drivers are right ... big if there ...

[MasterCornholio]

@Gennova
"Which looks more like 720p than 1080p despite what sony fanboys will have you believe."

It had to the same pixel density as a 1080P image. The clarity is the same as a 1080P image and superior to that of a 900P and 720P image.

It essentially is just a 1080P image in a different aspect ratio which gives it those black bars.

Granted that there are less pixels than a 1080P image but in no way is it stretched out to fit a 1080P screen hence the reason why those black bars are used.

You can elimate the black bars by using a 21:9 aspect ratio monitor.
https://www.google.es/searc...

[Destiny1080]

no game runs at 24fps or else it would be stuttering mess on a 60hz tv

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[DarXyde]

I own The Order. It's 30fps. Stop lying through your proverbial teeth.

[jokerisalive]

Game looks great and will be a blast to play. Hate all you want whoever cant get over the fact that this game appeals to alot of people out there.

[Gotcha5]

So...the delayed from 2015 to 2016 was due to the pc version and not conquering 1080p on Xbox One.
E3 you said full 1080p at 60fps but when you add Shawn Ashmore and new cast all that drop to 720p - 30fps... I'm so confused Microsoft.

[its_JEFF]

This is still going on from yesterday... The simple fact is the Engineers at Remedy found or ran into a roadblock/bottleneck and found a solution to get around it that resulted. That solution resulted, likely, into a game that looks better than if they didn't. I applaud they're ingenuity!!!

[Destiny1080]

720p and screen tearing, the downgrade is real

[GMR_PR]

Downgrade from what?

[LastcenuryRob]

The game still looks amazing and the screen tearing is very minimal...Stop trolling and get a life little child.

[Bobafret]

I truly hope MS focuses on power next generation, I admittedly feel a tad short changed. And I am a huge supporter of Xbox.

[LastcenuryRob]

I hear you. I am a supporter of Xbox as well, but I would welcome a "ram pack" for those who want to play in 1080p/60, but yeah if they decide to not use the new model of upgradable hardware this gen, I hope the next gen is a powerhouse right off the bat!

[starchild]

There's always going to be differences in performance between the consoles each generation. There's no reasonable way to guarantee the console you release will be the most powerful.

With three consoles in the market there's always going to be one that's the most powerful, one that's second most powerful, and one that is the weakest.

The generation before last the Xbox was more powerful than the PS2.

Last generation was probably the closest we've seen, with the Xbox 360 earning the win in the majority of cases, but the PS3 was capable of some fantastic looking games if care was taken to really work around its weaknesses and play to its strengths. The Wii was the weakest, but still had fun games.

This generation the PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One, and again the Wii U is the weakest.

Who knows how it will play out next generation?

[DarXyde]

"Just enjoy the game when it comes out"...

I wish things were that simple with The Order and Killzone.

Hopefully now, people understand there's more to gaming than resolution.

[VJGenova]

Probably not though ... i didn't like the order because it was boring, shkrt and repetitive. It was very pretty though. Didn't play shadowfall. Might check it out at some point.

[DarXyde]

I'm actually glad it was as short as it was. Then again, I bought it digitally for about $10 so I was content. Not a game I'd forgive myself for at full price. Others may disagree, but different strokes.

I didn't think it was a bad game. Just bad AI and a hard sell at full price.

Thing is, though, before it came out, there was this whole resolution debacle thanks to the black bars and no one was allowed to forget it, I'll say that much. Killzone we didn't find or until after launch, but then it became a whole other issue of people feeling lied to and whatnot.

All I'm saying is if it looks good, runs well, and the game is fun, I don't really care.

I mean these consoles have upscalers for a reason.

[VJGenova]

I rented the order for $3.18. Beat it one sitting. I hear that's a sin, but whatever. I don't think i would replay ut since it was very easy even on hard and it's more of a movie than a game. Hoping quantum break is more game than movie. Time will tell!

[LastcenuryRob]

You know what?...The game has looked amazing for months now. I just don't care about the resolution debate anymore.

[DivineAssault]

Does it matter? Theyre actually explaining themselves too lol.. Fans are buying it regardless but i dont know if its a system seller.. It isnt for me anyway..

[pingthing]

Feel free to crank up your free PC version as high as you can get it if the Xbox version doesn't suit. But resolution is not the full story and does not make up for fluid gaming experience, I'm talking to you Batman Arkham Knight (PC).

[clouds5]

I don't get it. The xb1 us what it is. The hardware is kinda bad and this game looks amazing. That this kind of visuals can be achieved on that kind of hardware is astonishing. If you want control over your resolutions and framerate you need to go pc. It's as simple as that.

[jwillj2k4]

Explain away all you want, your game is running at 720p.

I really dont care about resolution, but I hate all of this explaining sh*t. Just come out and say yes the game is 720p, so what.

[corroios]

Dude the problem is not just the rez of 720p, is that the game is running at 30 frames.

Its a 720/30 exclusive in 2016 that was delayed from 2015 to 2016 to improve it.

Remedy wasnt able to at least improve to 60 frames even if the game is running at 720. I dont really know how can this be.

[Bobafret]

I am not sure Remedy are as good as everyone seems to believe, they should have been able to get more out of the X1.

[starchild]

Dropping from 1080p to 720p will not give you double the framerate in nearly any game. It doesn't work that way. You'd probably only get to an average of 45 to 50fps.