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Oculus VR Founder Says $400 PlayStation VR Is "A Totally Fair Price"

Palmer Luckey says the price is "right around what [was] expected."

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DEEBO2997d ago

It's a great price and can do what sony HMV can do plus more for cheap.

Day one.

Death2997d ago

How is $400 cheap when it doesn't have the camera, controller or games that Rift includes at $600? Let's wait for the bundled price for PSVR and unbundled Rift before crowning either the winner on cost. A reasonable person can see the two cost about the same.

The price difference between a PC capable of running Rift and a PS4 is a different story. You can't determine value on platform cost alone though since you have to factor in the uses a PC has that a console doesn't. There is a quality difference between the two as well.

Lore2997d ago

You sound stupid. First of all at least they offer the choice of only buying the unit without the accessories. Second of all it's still cheaper than 500 bucks when you factor those in

Thirdly nobody asked you to "factor in the uses a PC has" to compare the two

Thatguy-3102997d ago (Edited 2997d ago )

But see what you fail to see is that people have those items. Even if you add the cost of the things you mentioned the price will still be lower than the competition. Having the headset as a standalone is beneficial because the people that have the items don't need to invest on a set bundle that includes them for more money. I for one would be pissed if they forced a bundle and didn't give me the option to buy the headset alone. That being said a bundle will come so the more options the better.

Death2997d ago (Edited 2997d ago )

It's still a bundle price vs a base price. How many PC gamers don't have a controller? Same logic, no? You are skipping the games included with Rift also. Add two games and a PS camera to PSVR and it's not much cheaper is it? We should see a camera/game bundle from Sony for $499 and a stripped down Rift without games and controller for about the same price. Right now Oculus is banking on early adopters buying more expensive bundles. How much do you want to bet the $399 PSVR will be sold out before the holidays and only $499 bundles being stocked on store shelves?

@Kwiet,

How much for the camera, controller and two games? Think we are getting closer to $200? PS4 camera and Xbox One controller retail for $60 each. That's $120 and then the cost of the games. Depending on the games, I don't think $200 is as much a stretch as you want to believe.

KwietStorm_BLM2997d ago

Because the camera and controller doesn't equal $200?

SourtreeDing2997d ago

i already own a Camera, all i would need is the Move controller if the game i want needed it... plus not all games require camera or move;)

Aenea2997d ago

I'm in Europe, when I want to buy an Oculus, I pay €700, add in shipping and import duties and it's around €780.

Am sure the Oculus will be available one day in local shops without the extra shipping and import costs but the PSVR will be avail for €400 in local shops straight away. And it's the MSRP, am positive some shops will go slightly lower and/or create some nice bundles...

TrollityTroll2997d ago

Death, sorry, bit confused here.
Not too long ago you were dismissing the impact of XB1 games releasing on PC because apparently not enough people have PC's capable of running them:
http://n4g.com/news/1864805...

Let's take a bit of a quote from there:
It's amazing how you claim no one owns a gaming PC when talking about XB1 losing exclusives and then talk about how everyone owns a gaming PC when talking about PSVR.

Not to mention not even a day ago you were all:
http://n4g.com/news/1877720...
better announce something soon or I'm buying a Rift for my PS4. If PSVR is cheaper though and the experience at $400 is close to the $1500 experience Rift offers, maybe I will just buy a PSVR for my PC since the two work on both platforms.

Now all of a sudden, even though you've not experienced PSVR, Rift is $600 and PSVR at $400 is an issue. Talk about an about-turn

ShottyGibs2997d ago

Well he's right. It isn't an apples to apples comparison if a bundle is being compared to a base config. That's factual.
This price wouldn't be too difficult if we could do a unbiased comparison.

@ Lore

You realise you don't have to attack people for having a different view right?!
What an exciting world we have if we all thought the same!? Try and leave fanboyism emotions out of it.

starchild2997d ago

The price difference isn't as big as some people are making it out to be. It's maybe a $100 to $150 difference, considering the Rift comes with a $50 controller and the motion-tracking camera.

We also shouldn't forget the Rift has superior specs and will definitely offer superior VR experiences when driven by a good gaming PC.

The Rift is also the first one out the gate and we all know that you pay more to be an early adopter.

All of these things make it perfectly understandable that the Rift costs a little more.

mkis0072997d ago

so why are you not adding the extra cost of the pc needed to use the rift? $300 gpu 200$ cpu mobo...os ram the difference in getting into vr is insanely cheaper on psvr. no ill do the maths if you really dont know how much parts cost.

iceman062997d ago

The camera and move controllers are dirt cheap. I've seen move controllers for leas than $20 and the camera is constantly on sale for $30. So, unless retailers pull some price gauging BS, that's about $50 extra. Not to mention that they've states that VR games can be played with a DS4.

Lonnie182997d ago

Lol what about the PC needed for the Rift?

Volkama2997d ago

The Rift comes with an Xbox controller. The motion controllers will be sold seperately at a later date. The only thing a PS4 player needs to buy to match the Rift bundle is the camera, which is not close to $200.

I'm sure there are loads of arguments about the pros and cons of each HMD, but PSVR's price advantage is clear.

notachance2997d ago

chill people, it's just Death doing the usual, nothing to take seriously here..

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stuna12997d ago

I agree! But what we are seeing now are alot of "So called gamers" trying to dismiss the relevancy of the price of PSVR by saying it's somehow incomplete because it's not bundled with a camera, when everyone has 8 months to aquire a $40 camera lol.

I think a salt river is flowing through these articles because 1) Alot of people excited for PSVR called the price Sony announced. Which truthfully wasn't too hard to guess, because Sony actually told everyone from the beginning! "PSVR would priced as a new Console/Platform.

2)People are salty because Sony are once again in the spotlight! For which they should be because they are giving gamers wha they want.

It's really going to be a salt storm once people realize PSVR as actually going to energize the PS4's sales even more. Make no mistake PSVR is going to succeed and in turn it's going to promote even more PS4 sales.

ShottyGibs2997d ago (Edited 2997d ago )

I don't see any salt from anyone to be honest. Why would people be salty about having choice?
Price, quality of the experience and value for money is what interests me. I'm yet to try all 3.
I'll probably pick up a PSVR if it's forward compatible, otherwise probably the rift.

cleft52997d ago

So the PSVR will allow me to play pornographic games? It will allow me to play my PC games on it? It will allow me to access open source content? Until they announce that PSVR is an open platform device, lets hold off on that, it can do what HMV can't stuff.

PSVR looks like a great deal for Sony's playstation closed platform and I am glad to see them being aggressive with this price.

Loktai2997d ago

Just the fact that he is commenting like that alone... shows somethin

Death2997d ago

How much do you think Rift will cost without the Xbox One controller or games? I can't see them taking the camera out anytime soon since both PSVR and Rift require one to use it. Apples to apples it looks like the two devices are $100 apart at best when you price just the HU and camera. We already know a PSVR bundle is coming. A base Rift will most likey come before October.

TrollityTroll2997d ago

Just remember, if you have a PC capable of running Oculus you have a PC capable of running what used to be XB1 exclusives.

So any argument of Oculus impacting PSVR adoption has to be equally applied to XB1 losing exclusives. If there is enough to negatively impact one there is enough to negatively impact the other.
Let's be consistent in our application of arguments here.

donthate2997d ago

Trollity:

I don't think PS VR will get competition from Oculus Rift or HTC Vive, because of the large price discrepancy and the market segmentation.

PS VR's challenge is something completely different. People here might be jumping up and down expecting a higher price, but reality is that PS VR even at it's base cost more than a PS4. The PS4 market (i.e. console market) is very price sensitive. Heck, console sales increase significantly when a $50 price drop happens.

When you have a market like that, it is going to be hard to convince someone to pay more than their initial investment to get essentially an early adopter technology with very limited and questionable content.

Then they are going to look at their smart phone and realize taht Google Cardboard is there and cost $20 because they already have a phone, and that the content is free or $1. Not the same experience perhaps, but enough to tide them over with curiosity.

Bathyj2997d ago

I dont see why they should be. VR needs to grow as a whole. All the players need to to well, and they are all catering to different section of gamers. Occulus should be more concerned with Vive and vise versa since they are on the same platform but really its in everyones best interests for VR to carve a trench in the publics mindshare. There will be people who if even one of the players fail, will declare VR are fad and wont be interested. VR just has to take off this time or they will all suffer and it will be a decade at least before anyone tries it again. It been tried many times before in my lifetime. Its time to $h*t or get off the pot.

AgentSmithPS42997d ago

So is this the reason they're adding/added a dislike button to facebook? ;)

Lamboomington2997d ago

Why ? You do realize they don't compete with PSVR ? Sure, there might be some of that, but for the most part, no.

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ShadowKnight2997d ago (Edited 2997d ago )

He forgot to mention that a lot of PS fans already own the PS4 camera and move controller from last gen. Not to mention you don't need to buy the DS4 controller since it comes with every PS4 console.

Loktai2997d ago

Well still, even without that the cost of entry is so low, considering by then you should be able to find ps4s even cheaper than right now, which is pretty cheap.

Thatguy-3102997d ago

The camera sold like hot cakes right at the beginning of the gen and let's not forget the amount of people that invested in one to stream on Playstation live.

starchild2997d ago

I own a PS4 and don't own the camera. I would have to include the price of the camera into the overall cost. Plus, you get a controller worth $50 to $60 with the Rift. So it's not really an apples to apples comparison. PSVR is definitely not "hundreds of dollars cheaper" as some have claimed.

donthate2997d ago

True, but the price is just to get the consumer's mind share invested into it. Once they are in the store committed to buying, and realize all of this extra's they are still more likely to do it.

PS VR challenge is going to be that PS VR even at it's base cost more than a PS4. The PS4 market (i.e. console market) is very price sensitive. Heck, console sales increase significantly when a $50 price drop happens. How do you convince them to buy this?

In the long term the price might drop be a success, or the trend fizzles and VR turns into a gimmick.

Tsunade2997d ago

Looks like people here do not understand that the move controllers are optional. With PSVR, you have the choice of using the Dualshock 4 or the move controllers. Everyone has Dualshock 4 already! Many others, as me, has the move controllers already but if you don't, they are just optional and you have 7 months to get them if you want them.

On the other hand, the camera which is required, is also cheap right now. I got the camera since the release of the PS4 so I am PSVR ready.

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Sony Says The PS5 Is Its “Most Profitable Generation To-Date"

During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”

It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.

Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.

ApocalypseShadow19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.

Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?

jznrpg18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

I want RPGs for PSVR2! Good ones of course

shinoff218317h ago

If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.

MrNinosan15h ago

Lemme know if ya wanna play some Zenith 🙌
Bought it at release, but haven't played it more than 1-2 hours but for sure on my "todo list".

Cacabunga14h ago

Normal when they released mostly cross gen games so far. That’s a lot of money saved..
We haven’t seen what PS5 can do yet. 4years in and PS4 games still look great to me. The gen leap isn’t quite there yet.

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The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.

In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.

So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.

Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)

VersusDMC16h ago

The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.

--Onilink--13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

@Versus

They are definitely making a lot on that for sure (which the $70 price increase factors into as well), but its not like many of those games werent around for the PS4 too.

They might be counting the gen as a whole and not just PS5 itself (so extra profit from PC sales, whatever that may be)

PS+ price increase and different tiers probably amount to part of that too.

But in general, its still quite a surprising metric. Half the time, half the consoles sold, less first party games released so far and still already making more of a profit than last gen is quite something, and as mentioned, there is probably more to it that we dont know, after all, since we are talking about operating income, all the expenses they have also factor into it, so it is also possible that they have found ways to significantly reduce that + all the means of increased revenue that appear to be factoring into the equation

All in all, just an interesting situation from a business perspective

porkChop12h ago

It's for the whole generation, so it would likely be including PC. They also make much more profit on digital sales vs retail, and digital is far more prominent these days. The generation also started at the height of COVID when everyone was home, spending far more money on gaming/hobbies. It makes a lot of sense for this gen to be more profitable.

Abnor_Mal18h ago

This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.

Hofstaderman16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.

Tacoboto16h ago

Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.

Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?

Elda16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!

Hofstaderman16h ago

No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.

repsahj17h ago

Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.

sagapo16h ago

Not really surprised as Sony barely has any competition at the moment.

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Zotac To Reveal Their Portable Gaming PC At COMPUTEX 2024

This sounds like a very interesting mobile gaming PC. ZOTAC returns to COMPUTEX 2024 to showcase its biggest push yet into brand-new product categories from Handheld Gaming.

smashman9822h ago

My last 2 gpus have both been zotac. No issues. I'm interested.

Garethvk20h ago

It will be interesting to see what they have to offer

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ARK: Survival Ascended Premium Mods on Consoles Q&A - By 2030, Time Spent on UGC Will Be Way Bigger

ARK: Survival Ascended has introduced Premium Mods on consoles. Wccftech talked to Studio Wildcard and their partner Overwolf about the rising importance of user-generated content, especially for live service games.

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