Why do gamers behave like entitled, whiny little babies?

It seriously needs to stop. So much crybabying in the community has led to a disconnect from what gaming actually is supposed to be.

[itsjustexuma]

Because the ones who b*tch all the time are not gamers, just trolls

[lipton101]

I think because my generation and after, the millenials, were raised to be entitled little whiners. We got trophies for participating in any organized sport, even if you havnt won a game. we act as though these companies owe us a debt just because we shelled out a measley $60 which when adjusted for inflation is a very low price compared to games of old. We cry on social media and forums and we get responses from other like minded individuals which through confirmation bias justifies and validates any minor complaint, criticism or niggle they might have. We have poised ourself to be the first generation of takers instead of makers which really might ruin things for years to come in all facets of American life. Blame our parents really. When we would whine, we'd be coddled, not told to suck it up.

[Eonjay]

Wrong! It the 'journalists'! They are the whiny bitching instigating clickbaiting money whores that want you to think that there is something wrong with you. There is nothing wrong with any of us and they can all go suck a dick. Cheers!

[hay]

It's called a society. For ever retarded few were ruining the fun for everyone else. Just watch information media or listen to politicians on TV in most countries for 10 minutes and your IQ will drop by dozens.

I'm three points dumber by reading this article alone!

[UnHoly_One]

Lipton, well said.

Thank you.

You should be running for public office.

[Wingsfan24]

Really @Eonjay? Have you ever read a comment thread on IGN, or Gamespot or even Reddit? Hell, even here on N4G. The comment you just posted is a prime example of that kind of junk.

[freshslicepizza]

the younger generation are coddled by their parents, that's why. back when the atari 2600 came out people saved up to buy asteroids and played the heck out of it because they couldn't afford to buy every game. now people whine when they buy a game for $60 and a seasons pass comes out or dlc is available at launch.

that atari game that costs $50 was 100th the cost to make as the new $60 game. and never had online or anything.

[Rachel_Alucard]

@lipton

You are right on every front

In canada its much worse because they've been doing things like stop keeping score in little league soccer because they don't want them to feel any negative affects. Everyone just sees losing as feeling bad but fail to see the positive affects it has, especially on children.

@Eonjay
Delusion and exclamation points go hand in hand with underage child poster.

[phallusitator]

Lol @ " blame our parents".

Why stop there? Blame society. Blame the government. Blame the teachers. Blame the journalists. Just don't blame us!

[Adrian_v01]

It's because social media gives a voice to everyone. You can pretend that you weren't whiny when you were young, but we all were, almost every child is. You didn't have the clarity of mind back then that you have now.

Most grown-up gamers aren't the complaining type, at least from my experience. But because social media gives everyone the opportunity to voice their opinion we have a lot of children leaving whiny comments and complaining. They'll grow out of it and then they'll complain about the new generation of gamers and how they weren't whiny when they were young.

[Kidmyst]

I think gaming since Pong for me growing through the years on various consoles has my thinking more "meh" on all the features people complain about not having on a console. I've always played on consoles that just play games, now having more features it's cool but just added bonuses when I primarily want to play games. What I will not understand is how people sit and watch people play games on youtube VS playing yourself. When i have time to play, I want to play, not sit and watch someone else. But to each their own.

[Masterofwiiu3ds]

Adrian nailed it

[fanboysmackdown]

Love your honesty mate.

[2pacalypsenow]

Perfect statement

[PurpHerbison]

Because the internet. Plain and simple. You rarely hear this type of whining and complaining in person. Give someone anonymity and a computer and their true side comes out. And a tiny bit of games just lacking across the entire board, but more so the internet.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

You are just anti consumer.
Thats all there is to it.

[rigo8582]

I blame the millenials. The ones that grew up expecting a trophy for participating. The ones that cry when their feelings are hurt. Ones that bitch when things aren't how they want them to be.

[frostypants]

@lipton101, I agree with much of what you say, but I should point out that participation trophies were a thing as far back as Gen X, if not sooner. The coddling began in the 1970s. It just got way worse in the 1990s/2000s.

[Axonometri]

Society. Take a look outside.

[ShaunCameron]

The results of 5+ decades of liberal leftist rule.

[Mrveryodd]

You are so right.... i am an older dude and i cant believe the lack of respect for other people , the law , property and even themselves , some not all show .... it is fn sad imo .

[lipton101]

5+ decades of liberal rule? Yeah... No. I'm guessing you're a trump guy...

[frostypants]

@ShaunCameron, really? Is that why the right wing Presidential candidates are such a clown show relative to their liberal peers? Sure, "liberal" child rearing concepts may be partially to blame, but that's got squat to do with politics. "Liberal rule" doesn't make Trump supporters beat people up at rallies or right wing militia morons take over public nature centers in Oregon.

[BlackTar187]

lol Liberal peers are just as much of a clown show. take the blinders off.

[frostypants]

@BlackTar187, blinders? I don't see Sanders and Clinton making comments about each other's hands and calling each other "losers", and I don't see people at their rallies beating up protesters. Take your own advice, because you're clearly not paying attention. No rational person can claim it's even close.

[BlackTar187]

hey Frosty i am taking my own advice. I'm telling you that they are both Clown shows. Seem a bit sensitive there. LOL jeez calm down i basically just said they are both Shit Shows. Looks like someone likes to argue about politics like a fanatic.

I bet you're fun at parties.

[frostypants]

@BlackTar187, sorry. I'm not the one who brought up politics. ShaunCameron was. Don't engage in the topic if you can't hang. As for parties, rule #1 is not to bring up politics at all. Because this is what happens.

[lelo2play]

"Why do gamers behave like entitled, whiny little b*tches?"

Because they ARE whiny little b*tches.

[HammadTheBeast]

Aren't you one though then? I'm assuming people who play games are on N4G correct?

[DivoJones]

Pretty much.. it's a side-effect of giving a voice to every person through social media. 20 years ago we had no means of communicating to developers/executives besides maybe calling a 1800 number and voicing our opinions, and 10 years ago we could send an email that would be discarded. Now I can send a tweet directly to Shuhei or Phil, or any industry figurehead. And let's just call it like it is here.. the vocal minority are the spoiled, entitled, whiny bastards that shouldn't have their voice heard or messages seen.

[Azzanation]

Fans are stupid for listening to the media. The media is stupid for feeding the fans garbage.

[TheSaint]

As always it's a mouthy and loud minority.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

That is stupid. The consumer is always right. The only people who truly think gamers are entitled are ignorant teenagers who have yet to learn the value of a dollar.

I wouldn't be surprised if EA or Ubisoft pay "gaming journalists" to make articles like this.

[Ravenor]

I'm sorry, but that's only really true to a point. Being angry about a glitchy broken mess of a game? That's valid consumer complaint. Complaining that a company has decided to release a season pass or dlc? That's entitled whining. Complaining about a companies decision because you feel it somehow negatively impacts you or your "brand" (the recent Xbox/quantum break stuff). That's entitled whining.

They are free to do whatever they want, they owe you the product advertised and beyond that any additional content or decisions made with the game is all their prerogative. It's your choice how you spend your money and understanding you aren't owed Jack. Grow up.

[crazychris4124]

When we get broken games with very little content, what would you like us to do?? Praise these companies just for giving us a game?? Of course not. You wouldn't be happy if you bought a car and they stripped out features and the car has a ton of mechanical issues.

[mikeboccher]

there's a difference between a broken game (ac unity) and just a game that needs improvements. unfortunately people believe too many games are the former

[-Foxtrot]

If a game is in it's 3rd, 4th hell maybe 5th game in the franchise and fans have been asking for years for a certain feature or mechanic within the new game, only for them to ignore us then can you honestly blame why people moan

Then you have people who try to screw us over time after time or make silly little decisions which the company should no by now is going to tick us off

It's either greed, stupidity, arrogance or ignorance to why people speak out and complain. Hell some studios do more then one.

[Testfire]

@ Fox, if people are disgruntled about a franchise than why don't they, oh I don't know, not by the game?!? How many times has a COD been announced, people bash it, then said people still buy it. Same for Madden, Assassins Creed,FIFA, etc.

It all speaks to the obvious character flaws that many of us see. Lack of maturity, overwhelming sense of entitlement and no discipline of the wallet.

[HammadTheBeast]

Ok let me put it this way. If you purchased anything at all, aside from a game, be it a TV, a car, a book, would you buy it, then expect the manufacturer to "improve" it after the sale? Do you just sit around with your unsatisfactory product then expect them to fix it? No, you don't so why do game publishing companies get that luxury?

[Adrian_v01]

@Hammad

you're comparing pears with apples but well, you wouldn't invest into a car or tv without informing yourself about it and searching for user reviews prior to buying them, right?

Same goes for games, people who buy games day 1 are irrational and shouldn't be surprised when others aren't in the mood to listen to their whining. Wait until other gamers have reviewed it, if it's good then buy it. If you buy day 1 and get a crappy product, well sorry but that's no ones fault but yours. And if people would stop buying day 1 so much then I'm sure more effort would be put into the games to be working from the get go.

[mikeboccher]

or you could just do the logical thing and wait for them to fix it.

[crazychris4124]

That's what I do. I don't buy day 1 anymore but that doesn't make it right to knowingly release a game with major issues and a lack of content.

[Kal-V3]

"When we get broken games with very little content, what would you like us to do??"

Easy..don't buy it. But people NEED the game and need to follow the heard so they buy the big AAA game cuz someone else convinced them to and now they are mad because someone else told them to be..

What does it matter if a game needs to be patched, there is an incredibly easy avenue for patches to be distributed..directly to your console\PC without you having to do anything.

Games are way more involved than they used to be and you can't account for every single detail to be bug free (See Witcher 3) even if you have a huge QA team. No one seems to remember the to get patch 1.1 back before internet connected consoles you needed to buy another copy of the game from the newest shipment.

No! games shouldn't come out broken and Yes! devs have to fix it if its broken, but there is also a responsibility on the gamer\consumer side to be smart about what they are buying and the tolerance of what they can put up with.

I've been hearing alot of "Oh i never played (X game\series") before but i'm super hyped for the new one" lately and i think this is the root of the entitled baby-ness. A game gets talked about positively and they need to have it because everyone is talking about it. So then a few glitches or a "downgrade" happen and a few people get mad then mob mentality kicks in. Then when people want to defend the series or game they really want to play with logic like "the game needed to be optimized" or "it still looks good at launch", they are "blind fanboys on damage control" when all they want to do is actually play the game instead of arguing on the internet.

If people are that upset about a downgrade or glitches, just dont buy it.

[OB1Biker]

I agree. There are genuine reasons to 'whine' when you buy a game and get a product that doesn't match the quality expected but many, so many of the 'whiners' just do so as informed gamers and could have the choice to just not buy the bloody game instead of going on and on in the comments. Moreover their 'whining' is pointless since the people they should complain to will never read their comments and instead they choose to call out and deride gamers who find the game enjoyable and good enough for them close enough to bullying sometimes.
As for the influence they think they could have on the product sales performance by their sort of stance against it or downright trolling, they are deluded. In the same way that plagues the gaming community on the Internet they believe have way more influence on others than they really Have.

[uth11]

I used to have to pay the same price for a game with 4 kilobytes of content as I do for a game of today with 50gb of content! Enough with this "not enough content" complaint, gamers today don't know how good they have it

[Ravenor]

It's a perspective thing too, those games we grew up with were also made by two dudes in a basement. Not the 100's it takes to make games today.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

Even so. Gamers still buy them knowing it broken.

[SegaGamer]

I agree with that type of complaining, complaining about lack of content, broken games and DLC is fair enough in my opinion. The type of moaners i get annoyed with are the one's that moan at everything, if something is announced, a huge number of people will moan about it. A new console get's announced, people moan, a game we want is announced, people moan about it, low score reviews, people moan about it.

[garrettbobbyferguson]

In video games you are not allowed to voice your dissatisfaction. You must always praise developers for blessing you with terrible ports and bad games.

[Ravenor]

That's the companies decision to release that product, it's on you as a consumer to be aware of what you're buying. If people see issues with products they shouldn't buy them, it's really that simple.

[frostypants]

@crazychris4124, but that's just the thing. There are two huge points here:
1) Nobody makes you buy these games. Don't buy them if you don't think they are worth it. But don't buy it and then act like they owe you something.
2) Even the shortest games today have FAR more content than similarly priced games back in the day.

[Rimeskeem]

The biggest thing i complain about is DLC. Why? Cause if you are going to make a game please include all the content a full game should have.

[Goldby]

apparenty 3 people like paying for content created during development phase of the game.

[frostypants]

This sounds a little like entitlement.

You can't assume they'd have developed said content without knowing it would be funded later by selling it as DLC.

If you don't feel like the game's price justifies its content, why the hell would you buy the game? And if you don't, then what's the issue?

This is what your sort of philosophy amounts to:
"If you're going to offer me something to buy, you OWE IT to me to offer me what I deem acceptable."

Doesn't work that way. You have the right to refuse to buy it, and if enough like-minded people think this way, said developer will adjust accordingly.

If you buy it, you have no right to complain. If you don't buy it, you've already expressed your dissatisfaction in the clearest way possible.

[Goldby]

i never said they owe it to me to be something i want. where did you get that from.

what i was stating was that 3 people disagreed with Rimeskeem about DLC announced or released on game release. the fiasco that Evolve had. that is what i was stating about people like buying DLC.

Expansions i have no issue paying for because they are worth the money in my eyes. but i have never paid for DLC after the fact when it comes to microstransaction like content. (except for Rocket league becuase i got the game for free so i have supported them with the DLC/Expansions that i have wanted (Batman vsuperman for example)

issues today is that DLC and Expansions are worked into initial cost of game development instead of ongoing support for the title. that why every announcement of a Call of Duty game spends the same time talking about DLC as it does the main game. that i do not agree with one bit.keep the DLC/Expansions to after release support so that we know full efforts are going into the base game.

one other thing that i dont agree with is pay to win/paywalls that unlock content that is otherwise in the game. if some people chose to pay for say a weapon in game, it should also be able to be unlocked in game through playing. becuase that splits the audience when paywalls start going up. Take Last of Us for example, when they added automatic weapons to the MP restricted by a Paywall, anyone who didn't pay to get them was at a severe disadvantage. that shouldn't be a practice in our industry.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Well that isn't actually up to team many times and even with teams that own the IP, they still want to get paid for their work.

That is like saying if I'm writing a book series, that I shouldn't release book 1 if I already made book 2...

Who are you to tell the creators of those projects on how much of their work they should release and when?

That actually isn't up to you ie why many might see this as some sort of entitlement.

"a full game should have" Subjective bud, you nor I actually for a fact know what a "full game" actually is as that isn't an exact thing.

You could argue Witcher 3 isn't a "full game" based on some stupid, entitled cry baby concept of "DLC".

Could they have not kept making those expansions for the main game and just delayed it?

How can you state something that is full, in which your not part of the creation process of?

Sooooooo anything you feel like it? Could someone literally just say this about any and every game?

OH not full bro because of XYZ etc lol

Its why its such a stupid point, its not anything concrete or factual, just entitlement.

[Rimeskeem]

I completely understand the argument of some developers need the extra money. But please do not make the DLC forced onto someone. By that I mean give a 60$ games enough hours of content or something that the majority of people would consider worth 60$. This a very broad statement but I do not know how to make it better.

But if the game gives the majority of people 60$ worth of fun and immersive content then great! If a person loves the game to the point of buying more for it, great!

But please don't make people pay more for a game when the "add on" or "expansion" should have been in the original game.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Rim- " But please do not make the DLC forced onto someone"

How? Who is putting the gun to you're head? They are legally free to release their content how they feel just bud, no one on here has yet to actually show any legal proof how they are not.

". By that I mean give a 60$ games enough hours of content or something that the majority of people would consider worth 60$" I'm sorry but that isn't realistically possible bud, you can't know what the majority will deem as "enough" as we've seen gamers complain about almost every game not having "enough" based on their personal taste. You can't please 100% of the people, its just not possible.

I mean....do you not get you're asking for something that is very debatable? Its not concrete or of a factual nature and subjective to the user?

" This a very broad statement but I do not know how to make it better" Well point taken, but you're making it seem as if anything that gets extra, should be free as if the team or publisher isn't budgeting for that extra content.

It may seem strange of me to say this but......let the folks who create the games, have the right to release their content the way they feel just.

If CDPR, DICE, Bethesda etc want to make post launch content ,they are 100% free to do so, you don't know what "should" be in that game other then the folks who factually created it.

" don't make people pay more for a game when the "add on" or "expansion" should have been in the original game" I"m sorry bud, but no. That isn't anyone's call other then the folks who have the legal right over that content, as again, your asking for them to have something part of the game, that you don't even know if it was EVER going to be part of the base game.

You might want it, you might feel it "should" have been part of the main game, but I think we must sorta get a grip on reality and realize that we don't own that content, we have no rights over that company, team, IP etc.

Who are you to tell a team what they should do with content they worked hard to create? Are you buying the game, or the team? It seems that someone working on something, suddenly means it "should have been in the original game".

Well.......not really your's to state "should" now is it? Again, its as simple as what legal claim do you even have to make such a statement?

[mep69]

No, The Witcher 3 released digital expansions. There have been quite afew game that release 'DLC' which has been found on the disc already, and you are just paying for a password to unlock it. The game industry is in a disgusting state at the moment, hopefully it can redeem itself at some point.

[Vegamyster]

Nothing wrong with devs getting paid for your work but DLC now half the time costs almost as much as the base game. To give an example from years ago, Red Alert 2's expansion Yuri's Revenge was $40-$50 and included two new full campaigns, new units, sounds, maps and a 3rd faction for skirmishes. Now it's primarily just map packs & cosmetic stuff and they're announced months before the game comes out.

[_-EDMIX-_]

"No, The Witcher 3 released digital expansions. There have been quite afew game that release 'DLC' which has been found on the disc already,"

??

Witcher 3's digital expansions are DLC...

DO you know that DLC stands for Downloadable content? LMFAO!

Anything you download is considered DLC, I have no clue what your going on about...

Also the titles that have even done that are far and a few, even Witcher 3 got accused of having that when it was just placeholder data for future DLC.

They still need to have parts of future content somewhere allocated on the game, that actually doesn't mean its the full finished content bud, it just means they need a placeholder in parts of the game to have somewhere for future content.

What Witcher 3 is doing is no different then what Fallout 4, Battlefront, The Division, Dragon Age etc all did or are doing. I just don't get what you're actually getting at...

I mean...can you even name the games that have done this on disk DLC you're even talking about? As I recall that wasn't some wide spread thing.

[Necr0philiac]

Game prices have been the same for about 30 years. Do you want game companies to go bankrupt or do you want them to spend less developing titles and give us more budget games? I see $60 dollars being just a entry price anymore.

[Hoffmann]

"what gaming actually is supposed to be"

Uh oh.

[Perjoss]

internet anonymity

[Free_Fro]

When the internet became a thing ..
All hell broke loose.

-
xoxo

[gangsta_red]

So you're entitled or whiny when you complain about a service that you pay for and it doesn't work?

There are instances of SOME people complaining just to complain or troll. But when has complaining, arguing or discussing some of these strange decisions these huge multi billion dollar companies make viewed as entitled?

"Entitled" has become the new buzz word to try and pacify and shut up consumers who ask that these services or games they pay for improve.

[fanboysmackdown]

I think it's because the internet has given everybody a voice, especially the tweeners and they have taken over the earth like a pubonic plague. Sony, MS, Steam are always spending to upgrade because of hackers, so I'm thinking they're doing their best. I'm sick of the word entitled too gansta, but kids today........

[gangsta_red]

Fully agree smackdown.

[equal_youth]

"Why are journalists trying to play our rights down like little corporate b*tches when they get the chance(paycheck)?" Here fixed that for you.

[KingOfArcadia]

Well, it's really rather simple isn't it? The majority of gamers you see in comments and on forums (especially here at N4G) ARE entitled whiny little bitches. Boo hoo.

[scark92]

Why do people generalize gamers?

[frostypants]

People generalize everyone.

[scark92]

Damn, why are everyone such brainiacs

[Bathyj]

Internet

[WellyUK]

They have EVERY right when they buy the game to complain and "moan". People expect more and why shouldn't they, the problem is if anything people don't complain enough IMO with half the crap that comes out today. Only reason half the games get fixed is because the PC community puts their foot down and forces change, shame the console community isn't the same.

[frostypants]

If they buy the game already knowing something of its content, then no...no, they do not.

[WellyUK]

um yes they do as they paid for the damn product... They have the most right out of EVERYONE to complain. So if you buy a good game say Rainbow six siege and the game is fine for a month or so then Servers start screwing up those people have no right to complain?

Sorry but some of you people are just plain stupid. The more we complain the more hope there is of change.

[ruefrak]

I think that lately people who play video games have been given so much that a sense of entitlement does start to creep in.

[AizenSosuke]

Why do fanboys blindly defend a clearly bad decision?

[Spartacus10]

Whiny bitchy authors of shit articles like this one are a greater concern for the games industry imo.

[Lennoxb63]

Gamers are all talk. Every single big gaming company they claim they hate, is still making money off of them. EA, Ubisoft, Activision, etc. All these are so called bad companies, yet they continue to buy their games.

Doesn't make sense. Our industry is the only industry to do this. If people don't like a certain type of music, they don't purchase. If people don't like a certain type of clothing, they don't purchase.

But noooo. Not some of these so called "gamers." Their response is, "I'm going to buy this game I just said I didn't like, then complain to dev how much I thought it was crap.

[nitus10]

I will agree and disagree with you on this.

As a gamer I will only look at games that fall in to the categories or genres I like which in my case are RPG's and Action/Adventure. I also like to steer clear of on-line only games.

Even within the genres I like I am still fairly picky so I never buy day one. When I am interested in a game I do like to get critics options keeping in mind that it's important to get two or more opinions since I am well aware that even critics have their bias.

As an example I was looking forward to getting The Division until I heard it was on-line only. Oh well I do have other games that I can play and enjoy.

[spektical]

when you pay $60 for shoddy content you have a right to complain otherwise despicable practices become a norm. Just take a look at the biggest culprits in Ubisoft and EA. $60 isn't a meager investment. The publishers laugh it to the bank, and appreciate people who defend them especially when they can pull the shit they do.

I'm always amazed how the average joe is quick to stand up for a company that only cares about your money. It's just mind boggling.

[fanboysmackdown]

And another crybaby crawls out of his crib.

[spektical]

sorry.. didnt know you were a major investor in any of these firms ;)

[Duke19]

Children on the internet... There are tons of entitled fans online for all hobbies, it just so happens that the high percentage of fanboyism and immaturity makes gaming sites/discussion a pretty big shit show.

[Der_Kommandant]

This pretty much sums it up...

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[DivineAssault]

Publishers became greedy ass little b*tches thats why.. Instead of allowing devs to put in all they've got into a game, they have them split things up into DLC.. Games used to be completed before the internet age came and the whole "fix it later" BS started.. Make completed games before selling them and people will stop complaining.. Or it will lower the amount of complaints..

Games like Bloodborne and the Witcher were examples of complete games.. The DLC was a true continuation and added content.. They werent bare bones empty titles with DLC and microtransactions in there for a great experience..

In short, stop ripping us off and we'll stop complaining.. Gamers that have been around since the 80's know lazy development and sh*tty practices.. This new generation has grown to accept crap and dont know the difference..

[Wolfgang187]

I personally behave like a whiny bitch because of opinion titles like these.

[Imalwaysright]

"We are living in the golden age of video games RIGHT NOW!"

Read this sentence and couldn't help laughing!

This is the era of broken games, obligatory day one patches, disk locked DLC, MT, incomplete games at launch, online behind paywall, BC behind paywall, digital games costing as much as retail games...

The problem with gamers is not that they're entitled. The problem with them is that they're stupid and complain about all the wrong things like QB being a multiplatform game when they should be complaining (and voting with their wallets) about all the anti-consumer practices that they have to endure every day.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I just laugh at the image used for this.... I think gamer's are just a reflection of the bigger issues of what the anonymity of the internet brings. Which is this security in knowing they can be ugly and vocal with little to no consequence. They can badger devs and companies repeatedly to get what they want even when what they seek is not realistic. Gimmie, gimmie, I want, I want, I hate, I hate... pretty much the way of the internet these days.

[MCTJim]

"what the anonymity of the internet brings."

Wow, summed it up right there.

[hiawa23]

I am not one of those gamers. I just play the games. What appeals to me I keep playing what doesn't I move to another game. Simple gaming tastes...

[Junebug]

Too bad you hate on the PS Vita and care so much kicking it when vita owners are enjoying it. :)

[quenomamen]

I got a question when did Journalists become click bait article writing, no talent fanboy hacks ? (not saying this guy is one of them) but seems like N4G is overflowing with these check cashing, will write any article you want for the right price, hacks claiming they're Video Game Journalists.

[JamesBroski]

Because with all the shit that's happening with greedy publishers, they have all the right to. That's not the problem. The problem is that they keep supporting companies then go on the internet and whine about them. Whine with your wallets, not your keyboards.

[Artemidorus]

The gamers will always win. If everyone ditched Playstation in favour of an Xbox or vice versa, the company would lose money and it's game over for them.

It's important to keep the customer base happy. I would encourage more people to moan about season passes it's an easy excuse for a company to provide less content and add it to a season pass.

[opinionated]

It's not unique to gaming. There is an entire outrage culture being bred. It exists because it is accepted. 5-10 years ago they would have been laughed at and ridiculed. Today they are coddled and appeased.

[Gigglefist]

Destiny is anything but a perfect game... but go through the official forums and cringe at the entitled children. It's quite sad. Then again... a lot ARE children

[Scatpants]

Because that's what they are.

[kenwonobi]

Why are article writers and journalists feel so comfortable in calling gamers names? It's obvious they take numerous shots at gamers more than any other groups. Just because gamers don't agree with the journalist/review/opinions. Last I checked it's their right to have a differing opinion.

[Wingsfan24]

Pointing fingers does nothing to help the situation here. Clickbait articles like this are a huge part of the problem. People in general are whiny, doesn't matter if it's a gamer or a journalist or whatever. People just need to stop acting entitled and post legitimate concerns without being immature about things all the time.

[dvewlsh]

"Man disagrees with people, so he insults everyone he disagrees with."

I love it.

[Rachel_Alucard]

Whats funny is theres been tons of "journalists" who pull the same acts like demanding nintendo add gay marriage, Trashtalking ubisoft for not having a female lead in unity, and an assorment of tirads against developers and publishers for anything even remotely sexist at first glance. These are all things anyone who just plays games could care less about, yet the gaming media actively creates article after article bloating up the topic to make it look like everyone in gaming is interested in it, when in actuality its just a small group of agenda pushing SJW journalists.

[ocelot07]

The worst of them all are the people who moan about PS+ and GWG monthly games. Waaaaaaa I want AAA title waaaaaa I pay £2.80 a month I deserve this game I hate indies waaa.

[Hold_It]

Good question.

Why do fanboys blindly defend a plastic box, even when the company of said plastic box makes decisions to screw over the owner of plastic box?

[s45gr32]

Good question. I have no answer for it

[Mithan]

It isn't gamers actually. It is just the majority of what most people feel these days.

They don't earn anything, but bitch and whine about it.

[s45gr32]

I say gamers are not demanding anything but think whining and complaining while still buying supporting anti-consumer practices, it will solve anything. The answer is a resounding no. Gamers should demand for:

Complete 99% percent bug free games
Free unlockables/mod support
LAN support
Offline multiplayer
Map editor
Multiple paths, secret areas

Us gamers should send game developers back to the drawing board if they failed to deliver. Also to end corporate loyalty/brand loyalty.

Basically is Sony or Microsoft make a mistake or propose an anti-consumer practice dont support it. Period no more finding every excuse in the book to defend multibillion dollar corporation. Same goes for favorite franchises like Star Wars. A majority of gamers defending sw battlefront. Gamers coming out of the woodwork to defend Street Fighter V. Is ridiculous. Basically these loyal gamers stated we want early access games for $60.00 plus tax thank you......

[iceman06]

You're an entitled, whiny, little....wait...nevermind! lol

[gokuking]

Kind of rich for a site called "1080players" to be complaining about entitlement.

[HueyNewton2008]

Edit,

Not all gamers, this is a generational issue, as millennials are naive, spoiled and often offended by everything.

People just need to increase their level of discipline and not buy into corporate scams instead of whining about them. Send a message with your wallet, and on twitter state your case professionally and refrain from insulting corporate professionals and throwing temper tantrums, immaturity makes them believe they can get over on their average consumer base. They pray on the youth and naive, simply don't purchase what you believe is unfinished software, and if its lacking content in comparison to price.

Also, don't steal/pirate, it makes it easier for them to believe in certain business models that the community feels is unfair such as microtransactions/stripped content while charging a full price. Once you steal intellectual properties you lose credibility as a community, they have taken advantage of this, i.e. free to play. It's very simple since some PC gamers steal, just make the game free and charge them for additional content that appeals to them and they're bound to purchase some or all it sooner or later. To sum it all up, the community created this monster, creators don't work for free, and neither would any of you. Please don't steal games.

[s45gr32]

You are the most logical person ever posted on n4g

[lilmisscherry]

Not all of us do, some of us just like to game.

[s45gr32]

The problem with whiny gamers that whine and complain heavily support the games and corporate decisions that they whine and complain about. That's what needs to ✋. Second, it is a golden age for PC gaming not so sure about consoles (less exclusives, nickel and diming galore, as powerful as an overclocked tablet, less functionality than the PS3, expensive games compare to PC/smartphones, restrictions galore, etc.) First time gaming on PC gets 99% of mainstream games, easier to use, more accessible, freeeeeeee online gaming, cheaper games (Just bought Rise of Tomb Raider for $33.00), more videogame variety, more exclusives, etc.

[Ark_]

So bitch about all the whining - way to go!

[1nsomniac]

If you have to ask then you're surely not intelligent enough to understand.

Just look at what's happening in the industry & in businesses in general over the last few years. People aren't 'Whining' for no reason.

I'm sure these kind of articles & responses are created by people within the industry trying to mask the overpowering blatant issues that we all see from day to day. What other explanation is there?

[chadwarden]

Because that's exactly what they are.

[_LarZen_]

Not just gamers but people in general act like whiny little b*tches online. I think allot of people use their online aliases to went out frustration and real life issues.

Either that or a big part of the population are raving mad.

[SynestheticRoar]

That baby in the pic, looks like he owns a X-box.

[FlexLuger]

Yes, because people buy consoles for toddlers right?

[Pledius]

and why are you bitching?

man i'm really getting sick and tire of bitching

Mike Boccher please stop bitching

[chadwarden]

stop bitching about his bitching then

[Pledius]

if only you stop bitching at people bitching about gamers bitching

[chadwarden]

It would help if you stopped bitching about me bitching at you for bitching at gamers bitching.

[NickAwesome]

They don't, i don't get all the drama, they spend their hard earned cash and expect quality products, why is this so bad? i'm sure game developers are a passionate bunch too, they appreciate passion and they like to push their limits too, the only thing that is truly hurting this industry is corporate greed and dumb consumers who fall in corporate traps over and over, i swear sometimes this industry treats gamers like addicts (small doses of content just enough to make you survive another day), this has to stop but i don't think it will

[Trilithon]

this articles click bait. the author is being a total hypocrite and should take his own advice. BLAH BLAH BLAH yawn...

[bangoskank]

Because many of them are spoiled children. How many kids do you know that can afford a $500 console on their own?

[FlexLuger]

Well...its true...Most gamers are little bitches. If I had my way, I would give them something to cry about.

[AudioEppa]

👀

[KentBenMei]

Irony.