Dev: PSVR Will Ship Millions; No Frames Out of Sync Unlike PC VR, No Jittering At All

Megaton Rainfall developer Alfonso del Cerro thinks PSVR will ship millions. He's particularly fond of the reprojection feature, which helps synchronization in a way not found in PC VR (Oculus/Vive).

[Frisky]

Just waiting for Microsoft to drop their VR headset. Not sure if they even will this E3.

[Eonjay]

Well, if you believe what Phil said to Gamespot.com it sounds like they wont be bringing VR to Xbox One. In his words, only open platforms (here he means Windows 10) are suitable for new tech. He said 'closed' ecosystems like Xbox One and PS4 aren't good for VR. This was the same interview where he said he hopes Sony does well.

[Alexious]

Well, but they said Xbox One might get HoloLens titles, doesn't that qualify as new tech?

Anyway, I'm more excited about HoloLens than any of those VR devices. Too bad it costs so much...

[Eonjay]

@Alexious

Yes it does but OP is about VR support dropping at E3.
Based on Phil's comments we shouldn't expect that. In reference to HoloLens, I have a feeling that that is still a ways out. I wouldn't really expect that until next year. You will know its coming when you hear more devs talking about support and content. So far, we aren't anywhere close to that yet.

[Overload]

@Alexious

The consumer version of Hololens has been delayed indefinitely.

http://news.softpedia.com/n...

[hells_supernova]

Based on Phils comments we should be seeing Fable legends coming out of beta this year....oh wait.

Honestly though. I am looking forward to the future with these new technologies but I do not believe Microsoft will invest any further into the Xbox one. And I believe their next xbox will be a windows 10 media center for your tv.They stated years ago this was their end goal and honestly I do not mind that as long as there are games.

I love my pc gaming but have not upgraded to windows 10 however Forza is making a very strong case for me to jump.

[conanlifts]

But they are possibly making xbox a more open platform. Who knows what they will do as time passes.they are certainly up to something lately.

[Yetter]

@Overlord you can't delay something that never had a release date

[Kleptic]

sd11: what 'they're up to', at least imo, seems pretty obvious...they're absorbing Xbox as a product division into windows, which they are simultaneously trying to transform into a service...it'll be slow, and not this generation exactly...but the writing seems to be on the wall already...

nearly all of MS's profit comes from windows and windows related 'things'...the xbox division has growth, and finally has profit, but its a drop in the bucket compared to windows...and the division is also severely falling behind a particular competitor this generation...the 360 did well, but certain suits at MS acted as if it was their own doing...the variable was the Wii, which actively cut the market apart between different types of gamers...MS was successful at pulling in users from Sony when there was an odd ball gimmick confusing the casuals...this generation has no Wii, and its simply that Sony has performed better at getting both types of buyers for the time being...

so MS's current changes are a reaction to that...shareholder pressure has been building since 2013...for a second time...about what to do with a product line that is being outpaced by competition, again...this is exactly what was happening in 2004 with the first xbox, and the answer then was to rush a new device to launch and deal with whatever happens after (read: RROD)...the answer now seems to be have windows absorb the product line as much as possible and to spread its services across more users (read: better integrate 1st party published software to more platforms/users)...in one month we've heard more about this than we have since the xbox division was even announced in 2000...

this has little to do with the xbox one as a device...more to do with how eventually there won't be things called 'xbox's'...there will be PC's, and possibly even OEM gaming machines that run an 'xbox service'...Xbox Live is what will survive...individual proprietary and in house built xbox devices are most likely the question mark...

[Whymii]

I can imagine the cover art on the boxes having the statement "Better with HoloLens".

Now where have I seen something like that before...?

[Volkama]

Phil is all PR talk. I don't think he was referring to Windows 10 when talks about VR as an open platform. He's talking the VR headset as an open platform, essentially like existing display tech. A Vive owner can buy and play from the Oculus store, so Vive would be considered an open platform. If Vive only played games from the Steam VR store it'd be closed.

Read between the lines, if MS say it is better to support open VR platforms then that's exactly what they have already decided to do. You can expect the Xbox to be compatible with open VR platforms down the line (ie Rift, Vive, a.n.other).

I can't see the Xbox One driving those, but I'd wager it's coming for the nextbox.

[Apollosupreme]

Hololense is gonna cost three times the most expensive announced VR headset.

[BG11579]

Well Phil also said that Xbox's exclusives wouldn't go to PC...
So right now, it's kind of hard to believe anything right now.
But I'm sure of this, if the PSVR is successful, MS will definitely do something...

[S2Killinit]

Your going to have to wait till next generation for that from the looks of things.

On topic: its great to hear the praise for PSVR.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

@Frisky

Microsoft doesn't have a VR headset, but they do have an Augmented Reality headset.

[Alexious]

Indeed, and it rocks. AR>VR for me.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

@Alexious
The consumer version of HoloLens headset has been delayed indefinitely.

[Death]

Hololens was delayed indefinitely? That's impressive for a device that never had a ship date. The dev units are shipping as scheduled, but the consumer version which never had an announced price point or release date won't ship until Microsoft feels it's ready. A reasonable person understands that isn't "indefinitely delayed". A person with an agenda will call it indefinitely delayed.

As for Xbox and Hololens, they are completely separate devices that work independent of each other. It's possible we will see Xbox titles as Universal Windows Apps on the device, but an Xbox isn't needed at all.

[Bdub2000]

Where is the article that says it was delayed indefinitely? Stop repeating false rumors...

The article being passed around clearly states the consumer release is delayed until they make sure it's ready. The word "indexinitely" implies forever. The statement was that they are withholding release to make sure it works well for a good consumer experience.

[IamTylerDurden1]

U will never see Hololens in gamestop or Target. It probably won't ever get a full consumer version. Prices were estimated up to $1500. It's not legitimate gaming option, it's more a PR play atm.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

@Death

I didn't write the stories. If you have a complaint about the wording these "journalists" are using, take it up with them. Here's a link to the original story:

https://recode.net/2016/02/...

Alex Kipman:

“When I feel the world is ready, then we will allow normal people to buy it.It could be as soon as we say ‘yes,’ and it could be as long as a ‘very long time.' If a consumer bought it today, they would have 12 things to do with it, And they would say ‘Cool, I bought a $3,000 product that I can do 12 things with and now it is collecting dust.'”

[ThyMasterDebater]

Only thing Microsoft will be droping is more sales and studios at this rate.

[ps5fanboy]

Lol , they already dropped lots of stuff they shouldn't lmfao.

[NovaCorps]

your console is done already stop trying thx

[XanderZane]

What does MS Hololens have to do with PSVR Headset? Also Hololens is currently only for developers right now at a $3000 price. You won't see it for consumers for at least a couple years I'm thinking. MS wants developers to make games, apps & tools for it first before releasing it to consumers in the future.

As for PSVR, I'm just waiting to hear the price. They are shipping millions, but how many gamers will be buying one immediately? That will be the big question.

[ccgr]

Given the price point, I'm sure ti will do great!

[Alexious]

It will have to be inferior to Oculus Rift. I don't think many people would buy it with a price higher than $399.

[S2Killinit]

I would.

[FriedGoat]

Rift will sell nothing compared to PSVR, mark my words. I'm just hoping that PSVR has PC drivers eventually so I don't have to get 2 headsets.

[Vhampir]

@FriedGoat
You can hope, but it requires the co-processor to work, afaik. Which is also why they don't notice "jittering" or "sync" issues. It has to fake the extra frames.

Vive and Rift will be shipping soon, so we'll see how well VR catches on.

[UltraNova]

Oh you mean like people bought the 100 dollar more expensive xb1 instead of the superior ps4 during this gen's beginning?

Got it!

[IamTylerDurden1]

I would.

[Eonjay]

If PSVR is as good as all the devs claim it is, and it manages to be only half the price of the competitors, then it probably will sell millions. Here the price vs performance argument plays out in Sony's favor. Its the only way to get masses into VR. PC VR will be great too, but it doesn't have the same ease of access as the PlayStation offering.

[freshslicepizza]

i don't listen to devs like this,

"I can’t answer that question due to the contract with Sony. But I can say that I’d love to support both (HTC Vive and Oculus Rift)."

sounds like he's biased right out of the gate.

[Eonjay]

And perhaps you are exposing your own bias for taking his comment out of context. He was asked whether his game would appear on other devices. Obviously, his exclusivity deal prevents him from giving an answer but he goes the extra mile to let folks know that Megaton Rainfall will appear on other devices.

Listen to devs like this. If you are intent on getting a Rift or Vive, he pretty must says that it will come after the deal has expired.

How do you find bias in his honesty?

[generic-user-name]

If anything, his honesty about his contract shows he has no bias at all.

[UltraNova]

He was being honest in light of his contract, its time you tried being honest for a change, Moly.

[Festano]

That doesn't mean he's not being truthful at all.

[Truthandreason]

@anyone disagreeing with moldy
the dude has a contract with Sony... he's not going to say anything negative to the only one giving him money.

[IamTylerDurden1]

If he truly didn't believe in PSVR and if it was bad tech you think he would put himself out there in praising it to the heavens? He wouldn't say anything. Take it as a good sign that ppl put their reputations on the line for an unproven tech.

Devs Love PSVR to death, just like PS4. Sony hit on consecutive hardware devices it appears.

[freshslicepizza]

@Eonjay
"And perhaps you are exposing your own bias for taking his comment out of context."

how? did i say oculus was better?

"He was asked whether his game would appear on other devices."

that isn't what i am referring to. it was his commnet about how on his pc there is jittering. he doesn't even mention what his pc is. do you hear any other developer working on oculus saying this?

"Obviously, his exclusivity deal prevents him from giving an answer but he goes the extra mile to let folks know that Megaton Rainfall will appear on other devices."

once again that isn't what i am talking about.

"Listen to devs like this. If you are intent on getting a Rift or Vive, he pretty must says that it will come after the deal has expired."

but until then he will plug psvr, and why wouldn't he?

"How do you find bias in his honesty?"

because history has shown when someone makes an exclusive deal they will make pr statements to try and sell that product.

[notachance]

'because history has shown when someone makes an exclusive deal they will make pr statements to try and sell that product.'

you have an exclusive deal with MS then? Everyone on this forum already know you're going full on MS mode every time you comment, the ones you're convincing are only your fellow MS pr bud.

[SteamPowered]

The Dev doesn't state once that PC is jittery or anything of the sort. He simply says PSVR is smooth and he can't say the same for PC. Hyperbole achieved.

[Alexious]

He says that with PS VR he never sees frames outside of sync, while with PC VR he never had that kind of experience. No hyperbole at all.

[Ravenor]

He clearly states he hasn't reproduced the same experience on his PC. What's his PC specs? What games, settings and version of the Vive or Oculus was he using or have access to? It may not fit your definition of hyperbole, but it sure as hell fits the definition of anecdotal.

[nitus10]

@Ravenor

Minimum specs for the Oculus Rift is:

> Nvidia GeForce GTX 970/AMD Radeon R9 290 equivalent or greater
> Intel Core i5 4590 equivalent or greater
> 8GB+ RAM
> 2x USB 3.0 port
> HDMI 1.3 video output supporting a 297MHz clock via a direct output architecture
> Windows 7 OS or greater

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Somehow I don't think the writer has a PC with less specs than the minimum requirements. However I do agree that it would be appropriate to list the technical specs and attributes of the PC you are using.

[kraenk12]

The thing is both Rift and Vive still have a tiny screen door effect which the PSVR doesn't because it uses superior screen tech with three RGB sub pixels per pixel.

[plmkoh]

Glad someone realises the fallacy that is Samsung AMOLED and exactly why you don't see AMOLED in any thing larger than a tablet. The 2K+ resolutions screens used on the other VR headsets are basically marketing on white papers, in reality their sharpness is half to a quarter the sharpness of the superior OLED RGB screen.

You see all these journalists scratching their heads thinking why the 1080p RGB OLED in PSVR barely exhibits the screen door effect despite stepping down from the expectations drilled into their minds from Oculus that you need 2k+ resolution to reduce the effect. The answer is the Oculus has 2k+ out of pure necessity due to AMOLED to get the same sharpness of a 1080p RGB screen.

[UltraNova]

@above

Then if unit cost wasn't an issue why did Occulus and HTC go for AMOLED instead of OLED RGB when the latter is obviously more suited for VR?

[kraenk12]

@ultraNova

Sony was working on that tech since 2010. They even had headsets before. They simply developed superior tech which isn't available to any if the others.

[UltraNova]

Thanks guys, but they[Occulus or HTC] could contract Samsung to make a VR suitable OLED screen for them, but they didn't, maybe they lacked the technical expertise(unlike Sony), who knows.

That said I'm glad Sony made some really good decisions on PSVR's development.

Cant come out soon enough!

[Garethvk]

It was smooth when we tried it at PAX Prime but so were the other two.

[ShadowKnight]

I have to agree with you on that. I didn't get a chance to check out the HTC Vive yet but I did check out the other two and it was smooth.

[Muadiib]

The guy is ignorant, first of all he's wrong about the PCVR not having asynchronous timewarp support, they both do. The difference is the PSVR upscales 60Hz to 90Hz or 120Hz (very little to no games will use the 120Hz option), whilst the Vive and Rift are native 90Hz. Because of that the PSVR needs to use the timewarp (aka reprojection) feature constantly, the Vive and Rift only use it for the rare occasion the framerate dips below 90fps. Only a moron would think that will give a better experience.

Secondly he's judging his PCVR experience on unfinished devkits, so glad I've done my research, I wonder how much Sony paid him to say that?

[Goldby]

all PSVR games are upscaled to 120hz...

i wonder how much research you actually did to believe that Sony paid him for this comment....

he's worked with PSVR, he's tried the PC versions and stated what he observed.

looks like you're the ignorant one to come to conclusions soo fast

[Hairy Chewie]

Not all games are scaled to 120hz. Psvr can do native 90 or 120hz. Only games outputing at 60hz can be bumped up to 120hz.

[Goldby]

learned something new today. Yay. if only i could correct my first comment now... hmmm *begins wrapping fists in tape*

[Muadiib]

Glad you showed your ignorance. Btw I don't really believe he was payed, I was just being hyperbolic, ignorance just annoys me, especially when the facts are a click away.

[FriedGoat]

You mean like typing payed instead of paid? Oh, that's just plain stupidity not ignorance.

[kraenk12]

It's ta fact though the PSVR uses superior screen tech...it simply has a lower resolution.

[Muadiib]

It has a higher pixel density because it uses only one screen, the higher resolution on the Vive and Rift coupled with the fact they use two screens means they have a much better display.

[kraenk12]

@muadliib
Nah, that's not what it's about. The difference is the PSVR uses a superior OLED screen with 3 RGB sub pixels per pixel which eliminates all screen door effect. The other two lack this feature.

http://wccftech.com/sony-de...

[Muadiib]

Yes I know what kind of screen it uses, I'm just stating the fact that it needs the higher density because it is magnifying a single lower resolution screen over a players vision.

The Vive and Rift have two screens at a higher resolution with a higher quality refresh rate (as made clear elsewhere). The upshot of which is the Vive and Rift have less of a screen door effect and a smoother and crisper display as well, not to mention how much better the graphics, accuracy and freedom of movement they will enjoy.

It's pointless arguing at this point, let's just wait for Digital Foundry's and other sites in depth comparisons, I'm 100% confident I will be vindicated. Bookmark this page if you don't believe me.

[nitus10]

The screen is 1080p and it's refresh rate is 120Hz.

Here is a quick test if you have a smart phone that has a resolution of 1080p and is approximately 5.5 to 7 inch diagonal. Put the screen close to your eyes so you can comfortably see the screen.

If you have excellent eyesight you may be able to see individual pixels. Now run a video (has to be at least 720p preferably 1080p. Can you make out the pixels? If you can the MIB would like to have a word with you.

[annus]

@nitus10

What is that crappy test meant to prove? Despite the fact that the same could be said for the Rift and Vive, you left out the fact that PSVR has lenses (as do Rift and Vive), which magnify/distort the screen (and allow your eyes to actually focus on a screen that is so close). Your test isn't even remotely similar to what you see in the headset...

[Festano]

Yep, they have true RGB pixels from what I've read somewhere

[frostypants]

Hmmm...whose opinion carries more water...video game developer, or random schlub on N4G...video game developer, or random schlub on N4G...

[Muadiib]

It seems the best these fanboys can do is attack my grammar, I guess when you know my original point is correct, what's left to do? I did use "paid" in my first comment, I get a few points for that at least, for that and the fact that I'm right in what I said and no one has proved otherwise.

[joeorc]

@Muadiib + 4h ago
"The difference is the PSVR upscales 60Hz to 90Hz or 120Hz (very little to no games will use the 120Hz option), whilst the Vive and Rift are native 90Hz."

you have no idea what you are talking about, 1st off Dr Marks explained, that the PSVR is constant 120Hz, it does not matter if you run your games @ 60 or 90 Hz the Headset is locked @ 120Hz

you were wrong 11 days ago, and your still wrong!
why because Dr. Richard Marks say's you are still wrong!

11 days ago here you are again:

"Muadiib + 11d ago
Imagine a PS4 running a game at 120 frames per second, now imagine all of the other demands of VR, how would that game look? Technically the PSVR can output up to 120Hz but if the developer wants it to look better than a PS3 game then they will instead convert native 60Hz (still very demanding) to 90Hz or 120Hz, don't expect native 120Hz ever unless the game is really basic looking. Don't even expect 60Hz converted to 120Hz very often, it's just too demanding.

Keep in mind the way Sony are converting a 60Hz signal to 90Hz or 120Hz gives nowhere near the level of smoothness as the Vive's or Oculus's native 90Hz signal. It's like upscaling 720p to 1080p compared to native 1080p"

http://n4g.com/news/1868884...

watch the video!

watch & listen to what he is saying..native 60,90 & 120 video 12 mins in

http://www.gamasutra.com/vi...

[Bladesfist]

I'm confused to what your point is. Are you saying that reprojected framerates are the same as native framerates?

Sony said here that you don't have to scan out at 120Hz as I linked you before https://www.youtube.com/wat... so reprojection is not forced, you can have native framerates other than 120Hz.

As Sony mention in my above video you should try to hit a native framerate of at least 90fps. If you can't do this then reprojection is required. It's a compromise not a perfect solution.

I think you should read up on the problems with this method. PS VR is not the only HMD to use this. https://developer.oculus.co...

[donthate]

joe:

Do you have a source where Dr Marks says the screen is locked to 120Hz?

Or at least how a 90Hz signal gets converted by the screen to 120Hz?

Because the screen will be out of sync with the output....

[joeorc]

@Bladesfist

"As Sony mention in my above video you should try to hit a native framerate of at least 90fps. If you can't do this then reprojection is required. It's a compromise not a perfect solution"

reprojection is on always on all the time, there is no required, its auto..Dr. Marks went over that in the video

also:

"donthate + 10h ago
joe:

Do you have a source where Dr Marks says the screen is locked to 120Hz?

Or at least how a 90Hz signal gets converted by the screen to 120Hz?

Because the screen will be out of sync with the output.... "

here is the video, i even posted it above

Learn about PlayStation VR, direct from Sony's Richard Marks

http://www.gamasutra.com/vi...

[donthate]

Joe:

I saw that video, but nothing in it support what you say that the headset is locked at 120Hz. In fact, if anything around 11:27 in the video, the slide says

Render Options:

120Hz display, 120Hz rendering
120Hz display, 60Hz rendering
90Hz display, 90Hz rendering

Which contradicts your statement that the display in the "Headset is locked @ 120Hz".

Did I misunderstand you?

[joeorc]

@donthate + 2h ago Bubble vote added
Joe:

"I saw that video, but nothing in it support what you say that the headset is locked at 120Hz. In fact, if anything around 11:27 in the video, the slide says

Render Options:

120Hz display, 120Hz rendering
120Hz display, 60Hz rendering
90Hz display, 90Hz rendering

Which contradicts your statement that the display in the "Headset is locked @ 120Hz".

Did I misunderstand you?"

lets go over this again, it was pretty clear in the video.

Again Listen to what Dr. Marks stated

the PS4 outputs in VR constant on Reprojection, the PSVr screen is infact locked at 120Hz

what he was pointing out developers can make their game with 3 render options

60 Hz
90 Hz
or what he said ,Sony would Like Developers to have their PSVr game @ 120Hz, but again the developer can choose 60Hz or 90Hz.

the screen refreshes @ 120Hz no matter what!

example: before Sony updated their PSVr

"Both the Oculus Rift and PlayStation VR run at a 90Hz refresh rate per eye display, meaning there won’t be a major difference between the two headsets in terms of image movement fluidity, though the PlayStation VR can render games at up to 120HZ. "

Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.co...
Follow us: @digitaltrends on Twitter | digitaltrendsftw on Facebook

Again, that's not because of reprojection, the Reprojection provides a stable frame rate with the refresh rate of the screen, and the sensor impute from the Gyro, Accel, and Magnameter's & multi led's being tracked..now without the external camera it would still operate, but of course the tracking would take somewhat of a hit.

the point is that the PSVr headset has a single screen that splits the image /per Eye into two 120Hz refresh rate!, what ever the native impute signal is is what it is. developers Must have a Min, 60Hz per Eye, or 90Hz per eye or 120Hz target per eye when they make a game..notice the digital trends pointed out stuttering!

the screen was not locked before nor was Rerojection constant on, it is now..both reprojection and 120Hz per/ eye refresh rate constant on, now!

[WelkinCole]

I guess it depends on the PC you have.

[frostypants]

As is so often the case.

[Festano]

Well, yes. NVIDIA says you need a GTX 970 at minimum, but I think that would yield a pretty crappy VR experience

[G20WLY]

Great to hear from the devs that the tech is so solid. We've heard it plenty of times from the press in relation to user experience, but the devs speak from a software/hardware perspective too.

Excited for this!

[Alexious]

Now they just need to announce price and release date!

[sadsatan]

i don't think xbone can handle vr

[nowitzki2004]

So how come phones can?

[Chris_Wray]

All depends on the price point. If it's high I can't imagine it selling well. I also doubt that it will be better, more than likely worse, than the Vive.

[Skankinruby]

Noooow how about a price and a pre order date????

[matgrowcott]

Millions? It probably will, to be fair. It's more expensive than Move, but I'm guessing if that device can ship as much as it did, the hype around VR will help it sell.

Millions is vague though. One million would be a disappointment and a surprise for everybody. 50 million would be insane and a surprise for everybody.

[S2Killinit]

If 5% of PS4 gamers buy it thats 2 million units. That's 5 out of 100. I think its totally going to sell that much with ease. I know im one unit myself.

[Death]

Developers are lucky to sell a game to 5% of the available userbase. How much incentive do developers have to develop for 5% of 5%? Indies will throw shovelware at the device all day long, but how many AAA games do we expect?

[S2Killinit]

A lot actually. Two million dedicated users will buy at a higher ratio. Also that is only at the onset, its not like nobody else will be buying PSVR other than the 5%.
By your logic no device shouldexist because on day one there isnt enough incentive. Developers want to invest in developing games, not just for the sake of that one game but also for all subsequent games they can make, sequel or otherwise.

By the way, i play games that are fun. Not just "AAA" (whatever that means).

[Death]

PSVR will always be a smaller subsystem within the larger PS4 ecosystem. You are correct that early in the console lifecycle when there are less choices, the attach rate is higher. The attach rate reduces as the system sells and more software is released. PSVR will still be a percentage within a percentage. This is also why we will see the bulk of games released for the platform coming from indie studios. This isn't where the "fun" is like you want to belive, it's where the low risk/high reward games come from. The less popular word is shovelware.

I think it's safe to say we all like "fun" games. I play fun games on my consoles and I play fun games on my phone. The expectations I have for my fun phone games is much lower than the expectations I have for console games I pay much more to play. If you pay $300-$400 for your console and another $300-$400 for PSVR, are your expectations going to be higher or lower? If PSVR receives the same support as Vita and PS+, how many will be content to spend the money for bleeding edge tech to play indies?

[IamTylerDurden1]

Death

Look at all the AAA's already announced for PSVR

Off the top of my head...

Rigs
London Heist
Robinson the Journey
AC7
Gran Turismo
Driveclub
SFV
Tekken 7
P Cars
Golem
Eve Valkyrie
Get Even
The Deep
Kitchen
Dreams
No Man's Sky (it's coming)
Adrift
The Assembly
Psychonauts
Eagle Flight
Until Dawn
Trackmania
Battlezone
Technolust
Loading Human

Not all of them AAA, but not one is shovelware. Devs have jumped in feet first to PSVR. The launch lineup will be impressive.

[Tobsesan]

Ye so many killer games, every mom will rush out and get one for theire kids. This thing is such a monster, it willl change the way people life and we have a new technological revolution. What a time to be alive.
/s

http://scr.wfcdn.de/13345/P...

[IamTylerDurden1]

There are a staggering amount of quality games coming to PSVR, look right above your head.

[Mrveryodd]

This is going to great ...... thanks Sony

[Duke19]

"Our product rocks. Their product sucks"

[Goldby]

thats what Raj, Ex MS pr guy said about NMS.

Do you think he's gotten the Memo about not working for MS anymore?

[iNFAMOUZ1]

hes right ya know, psvr is inferior in every way to vive and rift

[Tsunade]

PSVR is the one with more chances to make VR mainstream and successful.

[Bdub2000]

Think about this:

Oculus Rift spent countless time making sure the Rift will be a great experience. They recognized that if the Rift has crappy graphics, or is choppy frame rate, or makes gamers dizzy, it will kill VR. It cannot pull a "Kinect"

Hopefully PSVR also recognizes these issues and sends out an amazing experience. Because if millions of people get a terrible experience wih PSVR, it could also kill the VR industry just as much as it could make it mainstream.

[MachuchalBrotha316]

I'm buying day one! I'm hooked on Gear VR on Samsung and thats cheap tech..lol compared to the others. I'm gonna wait for launch and buy a PS4 and VR unit together. Already saving the funds for it and a gaming rig. We'll see in 34 weeks.

[DashArrivals]

I'm one of the millions that will be early adopters. I can't wait. I have disposable income and I'm going to buy every damn thing for PSVR that I can get my hands on. Can't wait for the Developer's Conference in mid MARCH.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

hahaha you wish, he doesnt know what he's talking about, Oculus Rift PC MASTER RACE checking in, move over kiddies, your grandfather releases in 20 days

[Hitoemi]

No no it wont.

[STIKUP ARTIST]

I already preordered oculus rift and will most likely get the psvr mainly for Grand turismo vr. Cant wait to see the real deal instead of just messing with my gear vr.

[airforcex]

VR, as we imagine it, will never be mainstream. Remember, regardless of the generation, you'll need 2x the graphics power at 90 FPS. That means current gen top tier graphics would need top tier next gen graphics cards to look and play smoothly. Can't believe the industry hasn't addressed this issue. Simply put, CoD 2016 would need 2x the power to play in VR. VR will always need more and consoles don't advance that quickly...

[TROLLER123]

24 hour gaming session with these on and headphones? lol,lots of neck pain and headaches and eye problems inc.just a gimmic almost as bad as kinect, but you didnt have to wear a kinect all i can think of is:

time I had a good time, ain't got time to wait
I want to stick around till I can't see straight
Fill my eyes with that double vision, no disguise for that double vision...

edit, now everyone singing it, worth an upvote for that

[Aurenar]

With the same price I prepare a PC to play rock-solid 1080x60.

[Condemnedman]

another tech that will fade away?

[ps5fanboy]

If I got the doh on first day , I'll get first day , that is , it doesn't sell out , like I imagine it will, certainly once people step into v.r gaming as a try in their friends , if it is a must have experience , which I imagine it will be if the games produced can bring that forth...then obviously , it will succeed!!!

[airforcex]

PC VR vs PS4 will be two completely different experiences. People have already played Project CARS on Oculus (DK2). PS4 doesn't have the horse power to play realistic looking graphics at 60fps on a single screen, let alone two screens. Don't get me wrong, I'll be getting the PSVR. But I'm not expecting Uncharted or GT. It will work with cartoony or simplified graphics.

[killer876]

New level of idiocy achieved....ps4 vr is better than PC vr?? Really???

[DivineAssault]

Im totally down with PSVR.. I just want E3 to get here so we can find out the price, launch date, and launch games.. Im getting it eventually... IDK how fast it will sell out but i will try to pre order asap.. Glad that all the dev interviews show them praising it.. Believing it will ship millions says a lot about how much confidence developers have with it..

[Emme]

None of these toys will sell millions, games or not. They are totally niche, even more than Kinect or Move. Very small userbase and hardly something for the living room.

[SynestheticRoar]

I back winner's. The PSVR will sell more than that Oculus rift. Mark my words.