Microsoft wants to build bridges, some Xbox gamers want to burn them instead

Keith Mitchell, Editor-in-Chief, The Outerhaven writes: "Recently the rumor that the upcoming title, Quantum Break, was coming to both Xbox and PC has come true and it seems that Xbox One owners, at least some of them aren’t too thrilled about that. And honestly I’ve lost track of how many people I’ve seen complaining, either on Twitter or other various locations, with their demented reasoning on what this is a bad thing and why it shouldn’t happen. Now to me it seems, well rather silly. Sure it’s a huge and anticipated title for the Xbox One, yet now that its making it way to the PC, it’s suddenly bad?"

[Herbalistic]

Its because fanboys like CrapGamer only care about making videos about "AAA' list wars.That dude even canceled his pre order over something that doesn't affect his enjoyment.The guy was super hyped for Quantum Break until yesterday.

[Eonjay]

Actually I think as much as he seems to hate PlayStation, he hates PC even more. But what he doesn't realize is that in order for those AAA games to keep coming to the Xbox One, they need to be profitable. And only Microsoft can decide what success looks like to them. He should embrace it as a way of making sure that AAAs keep coming to Xbox One.

[Eonjay]

@The_Infected

Okay, think about it this way. Lets say you are right and the aren't making what they want because of decisions that they made in the past...

Well, in the here and now, what do you do?

You find a way to make it profitable so that the AAA can keep coming in the future. Its not a plan that everyone wants, but you must be able to see the rationale behind it. No?

Edit: I will add that i understand the frustrations for those who did buy an Xbox One. Its a valid argument, but I still think there needs to be a sustainable plan for the future.

[ULTp0ltergeist]

Point is this was their goal since day one. All of a sudden we forgot this since Xbox One inception. Why do you think it was so easy to create an Xbox App on PC? Point is these decision aren't knee jerk reactions, if anything I think it's a build up toward whatever Xbox Two might be. A sort of Steam Box cloud technology platform. Cost effective in terms of console manufacturing and more money for game development. So they only focus on software development and Xbox UI than console design since it's a HTPC anyways right?

[_-EDMIX-_]

100% Agree Eon.

If you like MS, you want whats best for them. Win 10 is their platform just like XONE is, they want to see both of them do well and holding games back on the other platform isn't going to help MS as a whole.

This has been a theory many, many gamers have been saying literally for almost 15 years.

Make XB merely an extension to what is being done on PC in terms of the Windows OS. They can't just put Alan Wake on PC and then wonder why folks worry about their support, it needs to be all or nothing.

Many on PC might worry about seeing any game really that releases months after its console counter part.

Its about perceived value, they feel they are being treated unfairly and that maybe the game is a rushed port etc.

Though clearly thats not the case ALL the time, its about again...perceived value, someone is seeing it this way and enough are to negatively effect sales.

Witcher 3 did amazing on PC because it has a history of support on that platform first and foremost so they don't feel like that title is some after thought.

Look at Arkham Knight, now look at something like BF4 or Battlefront, or even Mass Effect. If released day and date, the community will feel the support and might be more willing to buy on PC day and date.

With cases like GTAV, that is more so the exception of Rockstar being one of the best teams in the world and GTA being extremely recognizable, hell many bought it in PC EVEN with how poorly GTAIV performed on PC in terms of performance because the brand is legit that recognizable (Plus Rockstar made it clear it wouldn't be like GTAIV, but I'm 90% positive MOST who buy games won't read all that information prior to)

MS needs to build that trust, confidence in consumers by offering a working PC title day and date to really show they are in it to support Windows OS's for the long term.

Not for "some" games or "after launch" etc, the perceived value needs to be there clearly with the real function of playing well.

I believe and trust MS can do it under this new direction as a long, long time ago they where one of the best in terms of trust with the PC community, I would say for the last 15 years or so, that hasn't been the case and they really need to put into check in the future.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Murk- "Point is this was their goal since day one. All of a sudden we forgot this since Xbox One inception"

No, its actually not. Phil Spencer had a great interview on what he wanted with Windows 10 and revived those PC titles releasing where do to his direction and him becoming head of their gaming division.

http://www.pcgamer.com/why-...

He very much revealed that his vision of Win 10 and XB was based on him becoming head of their gaming division and not something MS was already doing.

ie why those titles where not being developed with Win 10 in mind, he didn't want to hurt their development mid cycle.

You can actually read what Phil has been saying for MONTHS now regarding this to see it wasn't some plan for months and months.

I mean...I could be wrong and they always had this plan all along or something lol, but until something like that is really proven, I'd believe Phil might have made those changes.

[Kribwalker]

Murkcore is correct, the Xbox one was designed to work with a unified Eco system from the start. Even dell was advertising the Xbox one was gonna be designed to run Windows apps

http://www.pcworld.com/arti...

And the whole Xbox one name is in relation to your one multimedia solution for the entire Windows Eco system

[badz149]

I think many are still left wondering if MS is still interested in keeping the xbox brand alive and compete with PS in the console market. it seems like what they are about right now is more Win10 than anything even Xbone.

if this is just about a couple of games and the Xbone is still getting full first party exclusives later down the line, there's really nothing to worry about for the Xbox fans but the problem is if MS decided to go this route all the way with all games. then there will be ZERO initiative for anybody to even consider buying or even keeping their Xbone at all with all its games coming to PC. sure people will still buy it and games on it but why choose the xbone at all if its exclusives are available on pc and the PS4 gives better performance on all multiplats anyway, right? at least we know PS4 exclusives (not console exclusives) are only playable on PS4.

[Picnic]

The Infected makes a very simplistic argument that would go back to the PS2-like days of inferior looking console games getting a far superior PC version a year later when the game's no longer fresh.

[GameNameFame]

Amount of damage control here is just amazing.

This is good for MS and Windows 10. MS is basically putting windows 10 at cost of Xbox One.

It is simple as that. Moves like this provides even less reason for people to buy Xbox, but MS is more focused on converting people to Windows 10.

Just accept it and move on.

[mikeslemonade]

When FF13 went multiplat in 2007 at E3, this is the inverse of that. Sony has the ball in their hands clutched real tight now.

[pixelsword]

To be blunt, Microsoft is putting out feelers to see if two things will happen:

1. Can they make as much money or more on the PC as the X1

2. Will the X1 crowd object to an all non-exclusive console

That is not bad if it keeps money going to Microsoft, and by extension the X1, for the sake of keeping the games division profitable; the bad thing is that some might try to pin a sound business decision on the overall power of the X1.

[FGHFGHFGH]

@EDMIX

" They can't just put Alan Wake on PC and then wonder why folks worry about their support, it needs to be all or nothing."

Microsoft did not put alan wake on pc. Remedy had to publish it themselves.

http://store.steampowered.c...

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

Crapgamer is a biased fraud; he has reviewed games he hasn't played and used stolen footage. He even blatantly lies about console sales. He canceled his per-order of Quantum Break because it got a PC release lol.

[MasterCornholio]

In my opinion his mental health must be very poor.

[BumpFrankie]

@Master
He just did it for the attention.

[Thatguy-310]

I'm pretty sure many people would go crazy if Sony released Uncharted 4, Horizon and it's upcoming first party games on the pc. Funny how all of a sudden exclusives don't matter. Exclusives play a big role in setting these platforms apart.

[Phill-Spencer]

Ofcourse people would go crazy. Exclusive ip's almost only thing a console can shine against other consoles and pc if the tech isn't vastly superior to the competitors. I can live with them third party console exclusives coming to pc because that aren't games i bought my ps4 for. I bought it for the exclusive naughty dog, santa monica, media molecule, sucker punch etc. etc. games, that i relate to sony. And as much as i love playstation i would switch to pc gaming if all of these games would be on pc. I'm not in love with the piece of metal and plastic that makes the ps console, i love the ip's that make playstation so without them i would see no reason in sticking with limited hardware and monthly fees for only gaming.

[jmac53]

Wouldn't happen in a million years because they are both first party developers. But yeah, people would go crazy.

[BitbyDeath]

@jmac53, first party games are also going to PC though, here's the lineup-

Quantum Break (Xbox One & Windows 10)
Halo Wars 2 (Xbox One & Windows 10)
Fable Legends (Xbox One & Windows 10)
ReCore (Xbox One & Windows 10)
Sea of Thieves (Xbox One & Windows 10)
Gigantic (Xbox One & Windows 10)
Cuphead (Xbox One & Steam)
Killer Instinct: Season 3 (Xbox One & Windows 10)
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition (Windows 10)
Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition (Xbox One & Windows 10)
Cobalt (Xbox One, Xbox 360 & Steam)
Gears of War 4 (Xbox One)

Just Gears 4 and that was also rumoured to be on PC as well.

[Picnic]

Microsoft and PCs are connected in a way that Sony and PCs aren't.

[Sirk7x]

The thing is, it's only releasing on the Windows store, for Windows 10. Xbox One is a Windows 10 device as well. People are getting cross platform support for free if they buy the One version. You're supporting the same company. People here are thinking that PC is a completely different third part platform or something. Again, it's only releasing on Windows 10. I think people might simply not understand this.

[MasterCornholio]

Crap Gamer is a crap gamer. Which is why we should just ignore him. He's just clamoring for attention like Mr X does and we really should enable people like that.

Real gamers who are interested in QD will still buy it regardless of the announcement of the PC version.

I can understand why some people might be angry at the late announcement of the PC version. In my opinion if a game is multiplatform from the very beginning and not a timed exclusive they should announce the other versions as well. Its just dishonest to inform people that its an exclusive when it really isn't.

[jonivtec]

I hope phil spencer wont listen to those little immature fanboy and continue to push crossplatforming so more people can enjoy game they want to play.

[3-4-5]

* The Main problem is somebody comes along and creates A.

* Other companies shift their resources and ideas towards creating something like A.

* What they should be doing is acknowledging A is awesome, and create B,C,D & E to go along with and compliment A.

* Games used to be like that but now we have more un-creative people in gaming than ever before and they just want to copy the latest and greatest thing.

* Also spending so much time on DLC, takes away from getting to the next IP to create.

* People are too obsessed with "AAA" and "realism" to just enjoy a game so when a game isn't the best they've ever seen, they automatically dismiss it for illogical reasons.

* That is why I like that Nintendo is still doing their own thing. Yea they fail a long the way, but those failures lead to great successes as well.

* ^ Also by worrying about Art Style > Realism, their IP's hold appeal that much longer and can focus on gameplay and not trying to push polygons.

* Way too many games look good, but aren't that fun to play, or if they are, get boring way too quickly and have limited variety in the content they offer.

[XanderZane]

Yeah, I don't understand why everyone is fine with Nintendo (Wii, Wii U, 3DS, Gameboy, etc..) and Sony's (PS4, PS3. PS2. PSP. PSVita, etc..) ecosystem, but when Microsoft tries to do the same thing, it's bad for everyone who owns an XBox. Both Nintendo & Sony has a ton of cross-platform 1st party games for their systems and everyone seems to love it, but as soon as M$ does it with anything XBox & PC, it's deemed a bad idea and will hurt the XBox brand. Microsoft has already started bringing PC games to XB1 & XBox 360, and they said they would start bringing more games to PC. PC gamers were happy about this, but now that they are starting to do it, they believe the XBox brand will die? lol!! What?!? Both the PC and XBox brand have co-existed for over 15 years now. I don't think either are ready to die or go anywhere. PC and Xbox are both showing more sales and profits this generation, then the last.

[sammarshall102]

Many people only game on consoles and you need a good rig to play these current gen games like Quantum Break

[Hoffmann]

Take the price for a current gen console + also the ps+ xbl costs for 4 or 5 years , summarize them and you have enough money for a PC that can play the latest games with better graphics than the consoles normally.

And if you connect that pc to the tv in your living room and you bought an xbox controller and use it with the pc you have basically a very powerful console at home without the extra costs to play online with others.

[kaizokuspy]

Man that sounds like an awful lot of work, don't buy a subscriptions service or play online for 4-5 years....etc.etc... not very user friendly, plus there's a lot more to know when jumping into pc gaming.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I'm not saying your wrong Hoff, but that is a lot of assumptions.

Most won't buy both XONE and PS4 plus both subscription cost.

I would say thats a bit unlikely.

Also show us your specs for this build your talking about?

As a person that builds and owns a console...your very wrong on that understanding as this build wouldn't be able to play a lot of games.

But I respect your post and I'm willing to stand corrected if you actually post the specs and cost to the build to further prove your point.

[Khaotic]

Online gaming on consoles is more fun. I pay for a service strictly because I got tired of Dbag hackers ruining my experience. I will play single player and mmo type games on PC but I will never again play MP games on anything but console. Hate my opinion if you want, but it's the truth.

And all these "exclusive" articles are stupid. I am an x1 gamer and these are Whiney butthurt fanboys. I'm glad PC players get to experience this game. Remedy deserves every dime they can get. As do alot of first party devs. Most never see the kind of sales and revenue that multiplat recycled garbage devs see. They should see really great rewards for their creativity and hard work.

[Mike04]

so you are saying an individual should save until 4-5 years? to play the game? not everybody has a rich mom and dad you know.

So in that case a 10 year old kid should tell his/her parents to buy a mid-high end pc so by the time he reach 15 he is fully paid..

[Picnic]

Microsoft's moves now are so heavily in favour of getting the best possible version of games released as soon as possible that I hope and trust that the next Xbox will be a non-fixed console that you can easily plug in new parts to upgrade to top PC level, Xbox branded parts you buy in game shops.

[jonivtec]

Exact and what is the problem whit that????You have the rig...play it pc. ..if not play on xbox one...thats it simple as that....no need to flame war for such a little thing.

[MCTJim]

So I guess we need yet another article and yes I agree it is silly ..well then I'll just cut n paste this:

I see some seem to forget that PC games have deeper pockets..yes we do. They said and delivered on the promise of cross buy...you all remember what Phil said about crossbuy games?? No? well i suggest you look it up..better yet, I will post it for you:

At GDC Phil Spencer, Microsoft’s leader when it comes to all things gaming, announced that a cross-buy system was coming to Microsoft platforms. Developers will be able to make games for both PC and Xbox One, and offer them on a ‘buy once, play on PC or console’ deal.

Cross-buy won’t be mandatory, but any developer who has made a multi-platform game will be able to make use of it.

The games you own are the games you own,” said Spencer. “Play them on any device you own.” This mantra comes as part of Windows 10 offering a single, core OS, that will unify all of Microsoft’s hardware platforms. With a single app store accessible by all of Windows’ devices, many boundaries are removed.

So stop your complaining and boo hooing about QB. Its exclusive to my console and exclusive to my PC...thank you MS for keeping your promise!!

[_-EDMIX-_]

lol I fully agree, though I don't agree with the terms regarding "Exclusive" as once its on the Win 10 OS too, its not exclusive.

That is like saying, I have BF4 on my PS4, exclusive, I have it on my PC too..exclusive, I have it on XONE...exclusive because it exclusive to XB and the XB controller or something lol.

Many times the term is regarding platform, can it be played else where, if yes....its not. lol Its really that simple.

But I agree overall with what has been stated, I remember his keynote and interviews at GDC too and told many folks..sounds like they mean to make more games for both PC Win 10 and XONE.

I mean...at one point he flat out stated MORE games would be coming to Win 10 on PC LMFAO!

The writing was all over the wall and bubbles for you and anyone else who did their due diligence.

[Sirk7x]

Well, exclusive to Microsoft. The Xbox is going to end up more like a PC in the next year or two anyways most likely.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Sir-irrelevant. I can still play it else where, I have no clue why who owns the platform is of any relevance to what is being talked about.

At the end of the day....it can be played else where. The question is not regarding ownership, its regarding number of platforms it can be played on.

I don't get why everyone here keeps getting in their feelings and bringing up ownership as if that is what is being asked of.

[Khaotic]

Well spoken my friend. Maybe some people need to consider different hobbies in life. People act like this is affecting there life. When all in all it doesnt, not even a little bit.

[jonivtec]

Im trying to understand why they react like this.....for me the only thing i see is this...they dont have money to afford a gaming pc,so they buy a console...then they want a game only on their console...so it make them feel special about getting a console....its completly silly and imature.Every good game should be multiplatform so everybody no mather wich platform can play it thats it.Phil spencer is a brillant guy.

[rainslacker]

"I see some seem to forget that PC games have deeper pockets..yes we do"

A huge over generalization. There are big spenders on all sides. Despite PC gamers being more abundant than all the consoles combined, it is only this year where PC software sales revenues are predicted to surpass console revenues. Predictions for this year are PC revenue will be at 29b, while console revenue will be at 28b. How can PC gamers be more abundant, yet have less than 1% more revenue? Last year, and every year before it, console revenues surpassed PC.

PC gamers spend significantly more on DLC/MT...ten times as much as console gamers in fact. However, how much do want to wager that most of that spending isn't on the AAA games which we seem to covet around here, but rather the things like you'd see on mobile...which is a major part of PC games revenue.

"Crossbuy"

Great feature. Love it on my PS enabled titles. But is it going to be a huge thing among gamers? If people have a preference of PC or console, are they likely to care? This feature was so under supported on PS platforms outside the indie developers it's almost laughable, and barely even a topic of discussion anymore. Why is it now a major selling point for MS when most people do not play on multiple platforms. It adds value to one's purchase, but doesn't mean it's really that big of a deal. If MS is the only publisher actively supporting this initiative, will it make any difference in the grand scheme of things, or just be another console war talking point until it's forgotten? Kind of exactly how it happened with PS cross buy titles.

It's good MS is holding to it's promises, I can't deny them that. But that doesn't mean that what they're now offering is going to be something worthwhile to many people for the long run. As a PS gamer, I can attest to that. The only hope is that publishers see more benefit to cross-buy going forward, than they did in the past with it being exclusive to PS platforms. However, I can't imagine why their mentality would change given that many of the same principles apply.

I hope cross buy becomes a major and common thing. I truly do. I just am skeptical that MS will succeed in it where Sony failed.

I agree, most people shouldn't be complaining about QB, because outside of one particular group, most people won't be affected by it, and that one particular group is more down to buyers remorse than it is to MS doing something shady.

[pixelsword]

There are more games on PC, but we're talking about tons of free games on free sites, plus I don't think anyone needs to get special permission to make a game on the PC so the abundance comes with a degree of quality control as well.

[rainslacker]

More games is rather beside the point that I was making.

There is no compliance testing involved with PC, however, a good developer will do their best to make sure that the games work before releasing them. Some bugs will still occur due to not being able to test every possible set up, but for the most part, things like DX have alleviated a lot of that, so it's usually more the graphics driver that are the problem.

There is no specific quality control on PC. Games range from super crappy, to excellent. At best, services like Steam will remove a game if it gets too many complaints. All three consoles have strict quality control, however, that QC has nothing to do with the quality of the game itself.

[Hoffmann]

If these xbox owners, want a system with a ton of exclusive games, they should buy a nintendo console maybe upgrade their PC's and connect it to the TV. To have the console feeling but can play the games with better graphics than on xbox.

[baodeus]

If there were any effort in sticking it to the fan boy (which ever sides they are on), THIS IS IT.

Loved it.

[jcole97]

The reason people are angry is because they feel they lost the exclusive war to playstation. Im okay with it but I do feel like there is no major reason to get an xbox if all the games go to pc. I think Microsoft should work on getting pc games for xbox one to keep the fans happy.

[DigitalRaptor]

Microsoft wants to build bridges, but destroy what makes Xbox unique in the market.

What kind of console has a library that is 99.9% multiplatform? Who will be the first one to suggest that as a positive trait of a legacy gaming console? Seriously, what happened to all the discussions about what makes consoles special and the consensus that exclusive games are extremely important?

They are also attempting to treat PC and Xbox gamers on the same level with their actions here, but everyone else is complaining that nobody is entitled to question any of this, with concerns such as "why do PC gamers get all of Xbox One's games as well as FREE online?". What about that, and what happens from here?

Phil is doing his job/business to make games and new IPs more profitable, but that doesn't make it a good thing for the Xbox brand of consoles. A console NEEDS exclusives and plenty of them to set it apart. All this does it dilute the brand. Crapgamer's concerns are extremely surprising to me, since I never expected him and his bunch to turn around and call out MS on this, but its completely valid of him to do so. If this was happening with major exclusive PS4 games like Dreams, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, Until Dawn - nobody would be calling that a good thing - except by PC gamers.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

why do xbox one XBL gamers get free games each month and PC XBL gamers don't?

[jcole97]

Because they pirate their games anyway.

[OpieWinston]

Because W10 doesn't require Gold.

[badz149]

because XBL on PC is FREE! you still wan free games even if you don't pay for anything? where can I sign up?

[gangsta_red]

"...that exclusive games are extremely important?"

I guess we have to leave that discussion to the extreme fanboys who obsess with these types of details that really don't matter in the long run(real world).

"A console NEEDS exclusives and plenty of them to set it apart."

What you don't seem to understand or realize is that this isn't a concern for MS. MS is trying to build a community on two platforms, the Xbox and PC. By doing this they have two options for gamers to support their games, those who are console gamers and others who are PC gamers.

What this means is a bigger online community for online games. More reasons for devs to make games with cross platform play and more support for DX12 and Win10.

Now we can argue about some identity and Xbox is losing brand recognition but Halo, Gears and anything else is and will forever always be associated with Xbox and MS. The same way people associate Crash and Spyro with Playstation.

""why do PC gamers get all of Xbox One's games as well as FREE online?". What about that, and what happens from here?"

I don't know Digital...how did Sony fans react when Sony made online mandatory for PS4? Where did you go from there?

"...nobody would be calling that a good thing..."

I'm pretty sure you would defend it and then move on with life a week later.

[jb227]

"...that exclusive games are extremely important?"

"I guess we have to leave that discussion to the extreme fanboys who obsess with these types of details that really don't matter in the long run(real world)."

If exclusivity is a detail that doesn't really matter in the long run, why doesn't Xbox extend it's platform to include the Nintendo NX & PS4? Why even have any exclusives if the entire & sole point is selling software?

As far as larger online communities, if it's implemented wholesale then that becomes a huge issue...how do you balance a twitch shooter fps match when one portion of your audience is playing w/ a controller capped at 30-60 fps & the other portion is using the more precise K&M combo w/ frame rates up to & exceeding 120? There are some games that really can't integrate both platforms w/o a slant in favor of one camp or the other.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely see the sense in what you are saying...I'm personally all for the move myself but there are legitimate concerns involved in it that can't just be shrugged aside on blind faith. We will have to see how this all pans out because you can't just take a gaming platform at their word if MS' own messaging for QB is anything to go by. Less than a month ago it was plainly stated to be an Xbox One exclusive in no uncertain terms. They didn't just change their mind all of the sudden, they knew it would have a day & date simultaneous release, they just chose to misdirect & flat out lie about it. That's my only issue w/ the entire thing & it is being swept aside for the less sensible & far more subjective argument of XBO exclusives staying on a single box. There's no way to cover or spin false advertisement though, it is just inherently anti-consumer. I don't care how small the group of PC gamers who picked up an XBO solely for QB are, they are still entitled to some degree of honesty & integrity from companies that are held to advertising standards for a reason.

[_-EDMIX-_]

lolz, agreed Red ,but no need for personal attacks. You make good points.

Though I don't completely disagree with Rapture, I think its just misunderstood that exclusives are moving units to sell platforms.

The numbers of those games sales don't support the theory.

Halo 5 didn't move MILLIONS of units, its just not enough evidence to really suggest they will really be hurt by such a move. If someone buys the game on PC, they are still paying MS either way.

http://www.dualshockers.com...

That is what Phil is saying and this is what he's been saying.

I've been saying this for MONTHS and you must admit Red, you where not agreeing with this concept when many where theorizing if MS was going this direction even with all the writing on the wall, I would say many...many on here where not coming to that conclusion even though it was sorta clear maybe MS really was going this route.

Of course the will lose some sales to Win 10...but ultimately what does that even matter if they are still getting the sale?

SO Nintendo shouldn't make handheld games because their console? Oh so don't make console games because of handheld? How about both? Its still a sale to them as buying either or still nets them money, thus they have zero reason to keep losing money when if you decide to NOT buy a XONE, your still making the choice to buy the OS, support the OS, buy the game etc.

They should have BEEN doing this and they are in a position that is greater then even Sony or Nintendo as they only have platforms that fluctuate in quality ie handheld. MS has one that can be equal to greater then console, thus they can reach similar sales on their platform then Sony or Nintendo can in terms of quality of releases.

MS will be ok folks.

[rainslacker]

It seems to be a shift from a console identity, to a platform identity.

Up until yesterday, consoles were mostly identified by their console exclusives, regardless of if they were on PC. I still feel this holds true, as if one is prone to preferring consoles, then the PC option won't be a consideration.

However, when trying to make a case for which console platform is more beneficial, it changes the dynamics of the argument. If you have two competing consoles...which we do...and on one of those consoles you have games you truly can't play anywhere else, yet the competition has games you're also interested in, but can play if you have a suitable computer, then what is the impetus to actually buy the console which has it's games on a place you can already play them.

Obviously, the argument is going to be tailored to one's personal situation, but at the same time, we all know it's going to be overgeneralized into one thing or the other...as it already is.

I agree 100% that this isn't really a concern to MS, as they are expanding their brand in gaming. However, it lowers the appeal of owning the Xbox console itself for some people.

I don't think the Xbox brand is losing it's identity. I feel that it's changing it's identity into something else. Long term results will tell if this is good or bad, but I imagine if this becomes the course of MS for all their games going forward, then it's going to dramticaly change the dynamics of the console market, because for the Xbox console brand, it becomes more an option to get into Windows gaming. This could put both Nintendo and Sony in a position to be much more powerful in the console market, as MS offering is just another way to access their platform, and not a way to be part of the actual console sector itself....at least not in the same way....sorry, I'll have to flesh out more what I mean here, but I hope at least what I'm trying to say is coming across right.

This doesn't sound like a bad thing overall, but to someone like me, I prefer to be into gaming, and tend not to really care about the platform as much. I don't care about Windows gaming, I don't care about PS eco-system for gaming, I don't care about XBL. I care about playing games. I prefer playing on console, and PS tends to offer me more of the kinds of games I like to play, which is why I prefer them, but to me, Xbox seems like it's just becoming yet another Windows device that can play games, and I care nothing about Windows in general, so can simply opt to play on PC on the rare occasions MS has an exclusive I must play.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that MS is just becoming another publisher to me. Windows I liken to things like UPlay or EA's Origin. The platform isn't important, and to me, MS is just a publisher, who just happens to have a hardware option available for the console market. MS is essentially going the SteamBox route in their console mentality, and that's not really what I'm looking for, because I can play Steam games on the PC if I so desire...and being a predominately console gamer, I tend to simply pass over the PC option in favor of console, because my way of thinking makes it hard to justify spending money for a console which offers nothing unique.

[gangsta_red]

@Edmix

"...you where not agreeing with this concept when many where theorizing if MS was going this direction..."

I can honestly say I don't remember if I agreed with you or not. But what I do know is this is not a concern for me since I don't really care.

I mainly games on consoles, as long as MS is bringing new games for a system I paid for then I have no problem where a new game comes from (3rd party) or where it ends up in the future or on the same day (PC).

Just give me good quality content and games I want to play and I'm there.

"There's no way to cover or spin false advertisement though, it is just inherently anti-consumer."

Anti-consumer? How, it's hurting no one and not one consumer. It's seriously a non issue.

@Rain

"...and being a predominately console gamer, I tend to simply pass over the PC option in favor of console,..."

Then play the same games on the console MS has provided. I'm really not seeing this concern you're having and why you appear so disappointed, especially since you lean towards Sony so heavy anyways.

If you don't like the Steam route or you're not a PC gamer then play it on the Xbox One. Exactly where is the issue?

[_-EDMIX-_]

Now you know most times D-Raptor I agree with you, but this time I don't really. lolz.

Great post, but I feel Phil is doing the company a solid by doing this.

Its adding more gamers, they are getting more software sales and this move to go multiplatform will easily net them more money to make more games.

A console doesn't "NEED" exclusives to do well if you consider MOST buy for 3rd party games, not actually exclusives.

Bloodborne moved like 2 million software sales, how many units sold because of that game?

Same with Forza?

or even Halo 5? The month Halo 5 released, XONE wasn't even able to beat PS4 world wide...EVEN FOR A SINGLE MONTH! What doesn't that really tell you about this theory?

The sales of Fallout 4, Witcher 3, Battlefront, Call Of Duty, Destiny etc very much show...MOST are buying for 3rd party games, not exclusives.

We are talking about software sales like 17 million...to 2 million.

MS will be ok and I'm calling this will net them MORE money over all then in any other generation they've ever been in.

A lost sale from an XONE because those games are on PC...is still a GAINED sale on PC and software makes more money then hardware.

[Khaotic]

And you are completely correct. In the end if software sales skyrocket from the games division it can only be a plus for the Xbox. It will mean more investment in software and maybe even a higher end console next gen if they know they can make up sales in software. Phil Spencer knows what the f he is doing, more so than maybe anyone in the history of Xbox.

[Khaotic]

Exclusives don't sell consoles. Of the top 10 selling games last year none were exclusive. 95% of gamers don't care, because they are casual. I think you are completely wrong.

[Sm00thop]

At the end of the day its hardly going to stop people buying the game on console if they want it, everyone making a big issue over nothing. It's not just Xbox owners that seem to have a problem with it either, I've seen plenty of fanboys blowing this way out of proportion.

It's a game, no need for all the negativity. I've just bought a PS4 and a new stick just to play SFV, Im not exactly the greatest fan of PlayStation either but I buy what I enjoy playing, it didn't make me go and buy a PC just because I prefer Xbox.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

For the record...I don't think its just Xbox gamers wanting to burn bridges. A certain vocal majority sure have been piping in on this topic a ton today proclaiming superiority because their box has games that are walled off.

[Sm00thop]

Exactly. They're more vocal about it than anyone and its apparently Xbox owners that have the problem.

[jcole97]

It's Sony fans being vocal aswell. Saying that they are superior because they have true exclusives, which in turn, makes xbox fanboys run crazy.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I actually don't agree with that. Its very, very likely that even with many on here saying this or that, that many who actually spent money on a XONE JUST for those titles might be upset.

Sure, fanboys will be fanboys, but if someone really does own that platform solely for those titles, they sorta have a valid reason to be upset based on how MS marketed those titles as "exclusives".

Be honest day 1 about it, but I don't think they could have been as this sounds like something that was done mid cycle.

[rainslacker]

@Ed

I'm one person who brought an X1 with QB being the deciding factor. Other things played into it.

That being said, I'm not upset about it, because MS hasn't made it so I can't paly QB on the X1, and truthfully, I still prefer consoles over PC. However, I also like having money, so I could have saved some by simply playing on PC.

Still happy with the console....just realize in retrospect, that i didn't need to get one. I will probably still play it on X1, as well as future games that go this route.

On the plus side, at least I won't be buying the digital versions on the console itself, so it will have some worth to me more than a PC release will, as I'm still not a big adopter of digital content, which is what you get with PC gaming for the most part.

[ScorpiusX]

I have the solution for this dilemma of Xbox one losing its exclusive games to PC and not having standout games to make the hardware worth buying. After yesterdays event & most likely future releases , i will be embracing REDBOX, Gamefly ,GameStop Secondhand for games i want to play .

Problem solved

[OC_MurphysLaw]

and that is totally your right. Presumably you have an Xbox one that you paid anywhere from $499 to $349 for... If you have a PC that can run these games now you have the option on where you want to play them. on Your Xbox One or on your Windows 10 PC. If you don't have Windows 10, MS invites you to upgrade or play on your Xbox One.

[ScorpiusX]

Have been planning on getting one that can play games at great quality due to me wanting to get Rift. it seems they will be offering capable PC that can handle Rift that may be my saving grace . lol

[hiawa23]

The fanboys are hilarious. They want MS to limit their games and only release them on the small Xbox base, but MS has bigger plans and I am sure they know what is best for their company. I am fine with however things play out, but really with all the mess going on in the world to be generally upset about MS putting Xbox games on Windows 10, PC which they clearly have been moving towards for the last 2 years is what they are upset about. I can't get with that, but fight the good fight.

[Bobafret]

Don't kid yourself, Sony fanboys see this as another step towards Sony being the lone player.

[rainslacker]

Would those Sony fans be wrong though? I mean right now everyone pretty much excludes Nintendo from discussions, so maybe that will change.

MS is becoming more like a multi-platform publisher, except they will focus their releases to windows devices. They will be a publisher who also has a hardware option, and that hardware won't have the same unique games only available to it that was the primary focus of a consoles purchasing worth for the past decade or so.

I know Sony won't be a lone player, but how can one argue against the fact that one doesn't need an Xbox console to play MS published games? The argument is already so prevalent within PC/console exclusive released games, isn't it just going to blow up into epic proportions, thus lowering the perceived need/appeal of the Xbox console itself?

It's a serious topic of discussion in my opinion, and not one that should be so easily dismissed, because it's likely to become a major part of console related discussions going forward. I'm sure it won't be used as a serious topic of discussion overall because people want to hang onto bias, but there will actually be a lot of truth behind the argument now.

It's rather funny how things change. MS gave up supporting PC gaming with published titles to push the Xbox hardware, and compete against Sony. Now they're shifting back to Windows to push the Windows platform instead. Xbox is becoming a Windows platform, which is a different focus than a dedicated gaming device(superfluous features excluded).

It's like this. Nintendo and Sony stand apart due to their 1st party published games, and for Sony, the rather sizable 3rd party exclusive support they get. MS is removing that from their console, which makes the Xbox redundant, with no selling feature other than being a cheap way to get into Windows gaming. They can rebrand Windows gaming into Xbox gaming...which they did a while ago....but that doesn't change the fact that Xbox is becoming more like SteamBox than staying a unique gaming platform.

Those arguments are going to come back to bite MS when it comes to their console going forward, and for the first time, I'm questioning if MS wants to stay in the hardware business, or just license out the idea to 3rd party hardware manufacturers, because it would be the most logical thing to do, and would benefit them much better than staying in the hardware market.

[hiawa23]

Bobafret, I am not kidding myself, but we really don't want Sony to be the only player. The MS games will continue on Xbox/windows 10, Nintendo will continue to do them so I doubt Sony will be alone anytime soon.

[GrmpyolGamer]

My personal take on this whole thing is that people like CrapGamer etc are passionate about xbox and they think that MS is giving up on the XB1 and they r voicing their frustrations. I don't c anything wrong with that. Whether u agree with his opinions or not he has the right to voice them same as everyone else. I find it funny that his twitter convos and others who share his opinion end up on sites like these. Anyways, my personal opinion is is that MS is looking to get out of the hardware biz and make XBL a service and will use the rest of this Gen to gauge interest. I believe that the XB1 will be the last Xbox console and Microsoft Studios will go the way of SEGA and become a 3rd Party publisher. It makes me sad that this will happen but I think the writing is on the wall for xbox as a traditional console

[ScorpiusX]

Hope everything in latter half of your post doesn't see that light of day. Not cause your wrong or right , but i really don't want to see those mofos at sony be the last one standing. them being the only one is gaming death .

[GrmpyolGamer]

I hope it doesn't come true either but I fear it will. Time will tell on this one

[rainslacker]

I don't think they'll give up on the hardware market, because the console market is one of it's own, and MS has a vested interest in making sure it has a place there. MS probably doesn't want to solely be a publisher, although it would make them the most money on game software sales, however, it does nothing to push their overall Windows platform...which is what this current move is about more than anything else.

What I see more, is MS licensing the hardware or setting min specs for compliance onto 3rd party manufactuerers much like Valve is doing with Steam Box. Console hardware itself is becoming small enough, and cheap enough, to be included in more devices, and if MS can get the platform acceptance, then they can see a huge increase in windows enabled devices without having to bother with the costly production of hardware. That would be a win/win for them, and it would achieve the same thing at a much cheaper cost, and much less risk.

It does mean that the dedicated console market would shrink to Nintendo and Sony, and possibly some 3rd party Xbox's, but I feel the Xbox console brand itself is not going to be the same going forward no matter if MS continues doing what it's doing now, or goes to a platform enabled device like I stated above.

The real results of what's happening now are hard to predict due to the unknowns, but it's certainly going to change things, as it's a major shift from how they've handled the Xbox console to date.

People can fan boy it up all they want, but reality is, when you remove any bias or preference from the equation, things just aren't going to be the same going forward...because MS is not looking at it the same way they've been doing since the first Xbox released. However, the end result may end up being exactly what MS wanted to do with the XBox brand to begin with...and that's have Windows devices in more places.

[GrmpyolGamer]

All good points

[_LarZen_]

So to sum it all up. Never....ever....go full retard.

[Lennoxb63]

I don't mind MS building bridges. Just build the right ones. You don't want to build a bridge for people to start walking away from Xbox.

Mind you the majority still can't afford or build a gaming PC. But this could be an incentive for people to potentially save up and learn how.

This won't hurt the Xbox brand as much as people think it will. Although it will have some effects.

[GrmpyolGamer]

I think u will c a drop in sales for the XB1. How much of a drop remains to be seen

[NeoGamer232]

I don't see how that makes people walk away from XB. They are just broadening the definition of what you are buying. By providing you with Quantum Break on XB and PC together as a cross buy they are giving you more ways to play a game you may like. That is absolutely fine with me.

Argueably, XB is a service that I buy. Meaning that the reason I like XB is for games, achievements, apps, social features, and entertainment features. None of that needs to be tied to a specific device whether it be a console, PC, tablet, or phone.

Microsoft and Sony don't sit there and brag about the money they make directly from selling consoles. They brag more about network subscriptions, attach rates for games sold, and add-on services like music and streaming movies. Sony brags about how many consoles they sell, but they are not saying that makes them filthy rich.

Consoles should sell themselves, they should not be artificially propped up based on content that is only available by buying a specific device. Consoles should differentiate based on features and functions not content.

[uth11]

Microsoft likes to come up with grand unification plans, but often they don't work out. Remember how they were going to unify tablet and PC with the Windows 8 interface most people hated? That worked out real well. Or how at launch Xbox was going to unite all your non-game entertainment? instead of focusing on games? They had to back out of that too.

This feels like another one of those missteps

[Lennoxb63]

"Or how at launch Xbox was going to unite all your non-game entertainment? instead of focusing on games? They had to back out of that too."

Xbox was never not focused on games. All the games announced have been in development since before the X1 came out.

[Ogygian]

Yup, Windows 8 failed. But Windows 10 fixed all of the problems, and having both a PC and Surface Pro 4, I can tell you that in the end, they succeeded in unifying them.

They made a mistake and learned from it.

[Ogygian]

What would be wrong with Xbox simply becoming a low-cost living-room PC with an easy-to-use OS anyway?

It would mean that Xbox gamers could then easily acquire and play any game on PC, and also mods.

I mean I don't use consoles any more, but if I thought that the one I was using would have all the games on PC come to it, I would be ecstatic.

[SlavisH2]

I love the direction m$ has went over the last year.

[Tsunade]

This situation is very similar to what happened to Windows Phones. WPs were not selling that good (games on xbox are not selling as good as the competition) but still MS needed to make profits (MS wants to make bridges) so they put their exclusives apps, the ones that distinguished its phone from others, on Android and iPhone.

Microsoft exclusives apps started to get a lot of attention and success on those phones, even today, some devices running Android will now come with MS apps pre installed and MS is giving them full support (as they now will do with PC gaming).

Everything is nice! MS achieved his goal and their apps are relevant but we are forgetting something... what happened to Windows Phones? Exactly what will start happening to the xbox one, Windows Phone became even more irrelevant in the market.

Just as in the Windows Phone story, Microsoft is doing something good to save their software (we know this and this is not in question) but this will be at the cost of the xbox brand.

You will see on time, just as we saw it with Windows Phones.

[GameBoyColor]

Anybody remember Zune?

[PistolsAtDawn]

Those bridge-burners are called anti-Xbox-for-no-real-reason fanboys. Looking for any single reason to hate. Wreaks of insecurity and bitterness...surprising thinking they they influence anyone to be just as insecure and bitter as they are.

[DashArrivals]

I'm a MASSIVE PS4 FAN. I was never in a million years going to buy an XBOX ONE, so I knew I would never get to play Quantum Break... BUT NOW...

I'm 34 years old. I have a PC capable of playing the game on slightly better than minimum specs. THIS ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT QB is fine by me. I get to play the game.

BUT, this grates the gears of real Xbox Fanboys no doubt, it's a fact as far as I'm concerned. I would also be really pissed if I bought an Xbox One for sale in the holiday period because I wanted to play this game, thinking it was only playable on XBOX ONE because that's what I was told.

MS straight up lied to everyone. If you think they just found out about this then you're a damned fool. They've known for ages.

As a PS4 fan this really pleases me because, If I choose to, I can play most of their exclusives on PC. I played Ori and I'm sure I'll play others that are not yet announced.

When those articles come up saying "which console should I buy"... the answer is blatantly obvious.

[FN4GM]

That pretty much sums it up right there, and explains why xbone fanboys are angry about it.

[Azzanation]

@DashArrivals
Don't worry what the fanboys say. At the end of the day QB is under Xbox for MS and is profiting from those very fanboys who hate Xbox. After all Xbox is MS gaming division. The more money in there wallets the better the next Xbox will be.

Its also crazy how Sony claimed they won E3 last year using FF7, SF5 and Shemue 3 all coming to PC aswell. Does that make those games worse now knowing you can play them on PC? Guess I don't need to buy a PS4 now because the only game I would have brought a PS4 was for FF7.

It works both ways. MS are just a lot smarter at doing it. They know how to make money. Software sales earns more then money Hardware sales.

MS are able to win your money without making you buy there hardware, that's smarts right there

[Zoombael]

That's bullshit right there. ->

"MS are able to win your money without making you buy there hardware, that's smarts right there"

Hardware sells software. Less Xbox One sales, more PS4 sales, more PS4 game sales, more profit for Sony, because they earn money with every game, not only exclusives.

That's Plan B right there. -> Xbox One doesn't sell good, diverting to PC.

Even more BS right there. ->

"Its also crazy how Sony claimed they won E3 last year using FF7, SF5 and Shemue 3 all coming to PC aswell. Does that make those games worse now knowing you can play them on PC? Guess I don't need to buy a PS4 now because the only game I would have brought a PS4 was for FF7.

It works both ways. MS are just a lot smarter at doing it. They know how to make money. Software sales earns more then money Hardware sales. "

The difference between a FF7/SF5 and a Quantum Break, FF7 and SF5 don't belong to Sony. They don't make the final decision which plattforms get a release. They can offer deals. Quantum Break is a Microsoft IP. Period.

Considering that SF4 is also available on 360 makes your words look even more stupid. Btw. SF5 wasn't even announced at an E3. But The Last Guardian was. You know, that SONY IP that 100% will never get a PC release. Like some other SONY IPs... and unlike some MICROSOFT IPs (PLURAL).

[Subaruwrx]

@Azzanation - The difference between MS and Sony here is that Sony made it clear from the get go at E3 that FF7, SF5 and Shenmue were not PS4 exclusives whereas; MS seems to have made it a habit to lead people to believe that games like QB would only be available on the X1 and then at the last possible moment reveal that no, oh by the way, we've decided to release the game on PC as well. Similarly, MS's PR dept went out of their way to deceive gamers into thinking that ROTTR would be a Xbox exclusive until they were called out by Square Enix. Bottom line, MS and Phil Spencer can't be trusted because they engage in shady business practices.

[Azzanation]

@Zoombael
Woah your feelings are definitely hurt. There are PS4 owners which were never going to buy an XB1, so instead they will still make profit from them without allowing them to buy an XB1.
Look at the best selling PS4 games, Minecraft, another MS owned franchise. They know how to make money off there opposition and the fanbase that hates them. Lol its funny actually.

There a lot smarter then you think. Hate them all you want, if your buying QB then your supporting MS's gaming division which is Xbox.

I hope you pick it up on PC and enjoy and support an amazing MS game.

Thanks for coming.

@Subaruwrx
Who honestly gives a Shi% what they say at an event. Its still the exact same thing, just one says it earlier then the other. If you let words from a corporation make your decision then your up for some crazy times.

[Ra3030]

To early to tell exactly what Microsoft is doing here other the the obvious, selling more games. I think there's more to it than than that. I think Microsoft is gonna go this direction not only to sell more exclusives but also this will be their ticket into VR gaming without having to make the VR headgear. They'll release there exclusives in VR and for the X1 and PC. They already have a road in with the Win10 and a partner in Orculus so this would make since. We'll see, and if this is the plan it'll be held intil E3. This would be a great move for them and also steal a little of Sony's thunder.

[FN4GM]

"Sure it’s a huge and anticipated title for the Xbox One,"

That's the reason right there Keith, you said it yourself, so stop trying to damage control it when you know very well its a bad idea and only serves to make xbone even more irrelevant.

[mochachino]

Only petty fanboys and fangirls are upset with cross-buy.

If you wanted the game on xone before, dry your eyes, you can still get it.

I have a PS4 and wouldn't care if Uncharted 4 released on PC or even xone. Exclusives are BS. Let everyone enjoy great games. More money for devs, larger user bases for online, and more options for gamers. And no sacrificing games by picking one platform over the other.

Let price/power and service be the deciding factor on which console is "better". Force PC to compete with consoles for graphical value versus performance.

The deciding factor this gen is not exclusives anyways, it's what your friends are playing on. Activision, EA, Ubisoft, and GTA games sell a lot more consoles than any MS or Sony exclusive. Exclusives are just bonus.

I wouldn't have bought a PS4 if all my friends had xone and vice versa. I love Uncharted and Last of Us, I love Halo. Wouldn't it be great if I didn't have to give up one for the other because one device played them all.

$120 a year for 5 years (avg life of a console gen) for Live and PSN to "access" them on my PC is cheaper than spending $800-$900 for both around launch. MS and Sony make little to nothing on consoles and maybe lose and I would have paid more money to have worse looking versions of the same games. Lose-lose. Putting all games on PC is a win win.

Also guarantees B/C and perpetual free remasters with every hardware upgrade. At least insofar as resolution and framerate is concerned.

[Azzanation]

I say let the haters go play something else. PC and Xbox gamers rejoice and enjoy what could be one of the greatest games of 2016.

[cyber_daemonx]

Doesn't seem matter what MS does, their fanboys lap it up. Even making xbone 'exclusives' available without buying an xbone is a good idea.

Lol

I reckon even if MS decided to release their 'exclusive' games on PS4 some of their fans would say 'way to go MS'.

What a joke.

[hiawa23]

My take is simple, MS's fortune as a company does not ride on the Xbox, & I could be wrong but they probably have done nothing but lose money on the Xbox platform, & MS strikes me as a company that is about making money and if the Xbox isn't or hasn't been making them money then that is why for the last two years they have been integrating Xbox with Windows, so going forward, Xbox will be eliminated yet their games can still be delivered, hell in the future we may not even need consoles at all, but Xbox fans might as well get used to it. Everything has to come to an end at some point. Life will go on. I just play the games not attached to any console maker, I own every Xbox, as I do all the consoles every gen, so I am fine with whatever happens.

[Kreisen]

This is hilarious, i cant believe people are actually upset over this. Reading somebody go ''i was devastated over this decision by MS'' is so sad. Like do you really get depressed over something like that?

[Apollosupreme]

It comes down to fanboys validating their purchase to themselves by putting down anything counter to their investment decision. It's like this for all consoles. Their parents probably do the same thing with their vehicles, watches, houses, neighbourhoods, etc. It's called being a self centred snot. They'd rather bask in negitivity than enjoy life.

[Ogygian]

There's something wrong with you as a human being when it makes you happy that other people are miserable for not being able to play a game.

[Eterna1Ice]

Yeah, you surely built bridges, when you declined the appearance of Final Fantasy XIV and War Thunder on Xbox One.

[fanboysmackdown]

I could give a shit what platforms games come out on as long as I own the system that plays them. I am pleased to own my X1 and get the chance to play this awesome looking game called Quantum Break and I'll be pleased as shit to play Uncharted 4 on my PS4 too. Hell I'll even buy the next Nintendo console if they ever get their shit back together. Fanboys are assholes......plain and simple, entitled snot nosed punks.

[Father__Merrin]

im never gping to buy an xbox now. i will keep ps4 and pc

pc is microsoft anyways

[Artemidorus]

My bridge with Microsoft is destoryed, come back with a new console.

[WheatBread]

Most Xbox gamers don't care about this stuff, it's just those idiotic fanboys whining, complaining, and arguing with ppl on the internet everyday treating gaming like a war or something instead of enjoying the games.

I wouldn't even acknowledge them let alone respond to those assholes.

[feraldrgn]

You have to have exclusives to sell a console, or at least have a machine that outperforms another to warrant buying it for multiplats.
The exception is handheld to console multiplats, since some like a sizeable TV & some like portability.

If you put all of your exclusives on PC, why would anyone (with a decent rig & compatable controller) buy the console.

[Subaruwrx]

No, it's the other way around. MS is burning bridges by not being transparent about their plans and their business deals for games. If MS had announced that QB would be coming to both the X1 and the PC from the get go and not waited until a few weeks before the game released, there would be no controversy here. MS has a history of misleading gamers (TROTTR exclusivity fiasco for example.) MS has proven that it can't be trusted.

[ninjahunter]

Exclusives benefit no one other than the people making money from them.

[Tankbusta40]

The ONLY reason people care is so they can go on sites like thIS and make posts that their brand is better than the competitor because of said game line up. Who the hell cares if this game is being released on PC?