Ubisoft Dev Claims The Division Is Maxing Out PS4, X1 And PC, "Utilizing Every Tiny Little Cycles"

There has been much speculation how Tom Clancy's The Division will perform on the PS4, Xbox One and PC, specially given Ubisoft's somewhat disappointing "tech" record on modern consoles and gaming PCs.

[YinYangGaming]

Destiny was 1080p on the X1 but if the division has better story and more content I'll be happy with a drop to 900p to be honest for a better experience

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

Yeah, Im the same. I HATE 720p (looking at you Battlefield and Battlefront) but 900p is acceptable and easy on the eyes. The game does look really good especially the draw distance and LOD!

[blitz0623]

Hey Ubisoft, just because you're maximizing the systems doesn't mean you're doing it efficiently. I betcha AC Unity maximized all systems too

[die_fiend]

I hate 720p too but as a PS4 owner, I've thankfully forgotten what this looks like.

[UltraNova]

PS3 was said to be maxed out by God Of War 3...then a couple years later The Last of Us proved that optimization is king any day.

Pointless article.

[Crimzon]

If the current build of The Division is maxing out PS4/PC/XB1, then what was the original version of the game maxing out? Was the original gameplay footage of The Division maxing out hardware from the future that doesn't even exist yet? Because it looked a hell of a lot more impressive than the downgraded mess we have today.

[Dee_91]

@blitz0623
Exactly. I hate when developers say this. The objective shouldn't be maxing out anything. The objective should be to optimize so that it doesn't max out. All this is basically saying is " this is the best we could do "

[mark_parch]

when you look at how much better witcher 3 looks its hard to believe they are utilising the consoles efficiently

[thisgamer503]

Whoa now, they said they're maxing it out. Nobody said anything about efficiency lol

[BABY-JEDI]

You know they aren't ! They are obviously spinning their promotional BS.

[Goldby]

cant close car doors in Witcher. thats whats maxing out the systems

[nitus10]

I can run some benchmarks on my PC that will max out CPU and/or Memory and/or even I/O however that does not mean I am effectively maxing out my machine.

It never ceases to amaze me how some developers claim to have maxed out this or that console or even PC. When I hear that my first thought is they are probably very lazy coders and have given little if any thought to efficiency.

[dRanzer]

they maxing out with THERE ENGINE,
you can take ps2 game and maxing him on ps4,he will not be so beautiful I'm telling you

[NarooN]

I can code a custom notepad program that uses 100% of your CPU and GPU, does that mean it's a good program?

[clockward100]

That what i been talking about the witcher looks amazing

[Muzikguy]

Every time I see a headline like this, I always discredit what they have to say. Bad or lazy developers can max out a system. It doesn't mean they're any good

[jwillj2k4]

They're just setting themselves up to have a valid reason for leaving out content, lowering the resolution or both.

"Due to maxing out the consoles, they couldn't handle the experience, so we brought the resolution down 900p cutscene, 576p in game to have a steady framerate" /s

[Meishpizza]

Resolution isnt everything, this engine does orders more than the Destiny engine. Lighting, true dynamic weather, and many other features. I am will sacrifice for a few lines of resolution for these features. Ill be buying on PS4 though so it will more than likely be 1080p on PS4. Also the whole world is loaded in the initial boot there's no load screens here either. Destiny's engine is based off of the Halo engine which is pretty dated now.

[garrettbobbyferguson]

Resolution is very important. Resolution is the difference between staring at a beautiful crisp image and a small blurry little window. The same can be said for FPS. You either have the option of a slide show with missing animations, missing frames, that looks awkward or a beautiful smooth experience that reacts precisely to your input and looks great on the eyes.

You think content is what causes terrible frame rate and resolution? No, it doesn't work like that. Graphical fidelity does. Because these developers are trying to push all these unnecessary graphical options on systems that just shouldn't be at that level. It has nothing to do with weather.

[otherZinc]

Ok, if this Division Developer is going to max all platforms out:
Will they use Dedicated Servers on the XBOX ONE?
Will they use Cloud Computing on the XBOX ONE?

[cmgs]

Dedicated servers = cloud computing, and yes.

[XisThatKid]

Whaaaah?.......How are you supposed to make any kind of MMO without dedicated servers in turn cloud computing? Please answer.

[Domovoi0ng]

you should never be happy with something like that. 1080p 60fps should be minimum.

[stuna1]

Highly doubt that on any front! On consoles unless they've learned the smallest nuances of not 1 but both consoles highly unlikely. On PC's even more unlikely, simply because there are too many different configurations.

Maybe what they mean is that they can't optimize their own code any futher!?

[Lamboomington]

Sure, devs find better ways to utilize power as time goes on, but that doesn't mean what they're saying is wrong.

They are utilizing these machines to the best of their ability, squeezing every bit of performance out of them.

Ofcourse, on PC, that doesn't make that much sense, for the reason you stated.

[emad-E-three]

Until Santa Monica releases God Of War on PS4 that's the moment the console is fully utilised, pure marketing bs

[uth11]

I think that's what it means- their code as written is pushing the hardware to the max.

That doesn't mean that they've written the most efficient code possible, which could involve rewriting large chunks of it.

[pumpactionpimp]

All platforms it's on are x86 architecture, which has been around for a long time. Judging by ubisoft pc optimization on prior games, I would agree with your statement.

[Eonjay]

You can max out any platform. Doesn't mean its optimized to the max. Two wildly different things.

[BABY-JEDI]

I'm amazed someone disagreed with you. A case of spammers in pajamers.

[Neonridr]

To be honest it still looks really good based on the X1 footage we were seeing in this video.

Torn between getting this on PS4 or my new PC.

[thorstein]

That is a serious choice. I really want the big screen experience with my friends. I think I am, going PS4 for this.

[thekhurg]

Yeah, gonna be more people playing on consoles, 100% going PS4 with this game.

[Utalkin2me]

Im getting Pc and PS4 versions.

[Neonridr]

I will probably end up going with PS4. Even though I might be sacrificing a bit in terms of image quality, I am not a graphics whore. So I would rather have it on a platform I know that I have some friends on..

who wants to go through all the trouble of meeting new people all over again? :P

[die_fiend]

If you have a choice, get it on the console where it's going to look and perform better.

If all of your friends have it for the other console, you need new friends :)

[ninsigma]

"Torn between getting this on PS4 or my new PC."
That is the killer for me. If I get it, I'd love put it on my pc but the only way I'll get it is if I play with the guys i usually play multiplayer games with but they're on ps4!

[ShadowKnight]

It's hard to believe that their maxing out the PC version. So their maxing out my powerful GPU

[ninsigma]

Well I don't believe that for a second anyway. It looks damn good but whatever about consoles, they aren't maxing out pc lol

[Neonridr]

@ninsigma - exactly my dilemma. But I bet on my PC I can crank the settings up and get a silky smooth 60fps @ 1080p....

decisions decisions..

[reallyNow]

so many cheaters on PC, the only games worth playing on that platform are single player indie games.

[babadivad]

I love playing games on my PC.The struggle is real. Tough choice.

[sorane]

@reallynow

Sounds like someone who has never played games on PC. Looking at your ps4 fanboy comments confirms my first sentence as fact.

[ninsigma]

It all depends on of you plan on playing with them a lot. If you're mainly gonna solo it then you're probably better of getting on pc otherwise ps4 so you can play with your group. I'm still in 2 minds on if I'm actually getting it but if I do it's only to play with others and seeing as they're only on ps4 I don't have much of a choice :p
Gonna try convince them to get PCs before wildlands comes out xD

[mochachino]

Me too, my PC is connected to my TV so both offer the big screen, 7.1 surround, comfy couch controller, experience.

I have more friends on PS4. But I'd have to renew my plus membership. So conflicted.

[quaneylfc]

PC, if you can run it.

Why wouldn't you get it on PC?

[Neonridr]

playing with my friends on PS4 vs playing with a bunch of strangers on PC.

Wanna be my PC friend? :P

[quaneylfc]

I don't play on PC.

I have an Xone, a Ps4 and a Wii U lol

[iggsta3o5]

Two 50in TVs on my PC via HDMI problem solved PC it is.

[Kribwalker]

The Pc version appears to demolish the console version, but if you have more friends on consoles then that would be the way to go

[Neonridr]

yeah. I would love to crank it up in the graphics department and enjoy it in all its glory.

But it is a game I want to experience with others..

[Findingcrybabies]

Ubisoft can't even make a complete game and release one that works properly, but they can max out the current gen hardware. LOL.

[Lamboomington]

um, yeah, why not :P

They could be maxing out the hardware whether their game is polished or not, whether it has enough content or not. Those are unrelated.

[Findingcrybabies]

I understand this is just PR to sell games because many people know Ubishit is garbage these days, but even going along with what you say I think its more than fair to say that their priorities are terribly messed up.

[Christopher]

Wish devs would stop using words like this. There's no such thing as 'maxing out' this early in the life of the hardware.

Having said that, it's good to at least see them take each platform seriously and push it to hard. Though, this is Ubisoft we're talking about...

[thekhurg]

Disagree, developers can max out on day one. As development tools get better and they get more familiar they learn to optimize better but that still doesn't change the fact that they're using all available RAM and CPU cycles.

[Christopher]

You can max out the hardware with poor programming, that's not something to tout as somehow being beneficial. But, even then, when they say they've 'maxed something out' it gives a feeling that they have done everything possible, and that's just not true. That's why they need to stop using that language, because they actually aren't maximizing everything, because there's always more they can do.

[stuna1]

Not disagreeing with you, but could that be considered maxing out the hardware if there are how should I say it... Spaces that are not filled? I've always viewed maxing out something as meaning even after rearranging objects in that space, absolutely nothing else can fit in that space.

@Christopher

Totally agree
Kind of reminds me of how my son seems to somehow keep maximizing his closet space everytime I tell him to clean his room! Some way or another he finds more room to throw his things lol.

[TheCommentator]

Well, that kind of makes a statement like the devs mention here a moot point. Every dev maxes out the hardware. Every time. Here's the problem though: if I'm supposed to be carrying groceries upstairs, why would I have rocks in the bags with them?

Efficiency is what matters, not how strong you are. We are nowhere near maxed out from an efficiency point of view because we are still seeing games using outdated rendering techniques instead of catering to the strengths of the hardware in the consoles. Some games like Quantum Break and Uncharted 4 are using the systems way better than others.

[thekhurg]

I don't think every developer maxes out hardware. There are lots of games that are just made to exist and don't utilize all of the overhead available.

But I do agree that it is a moot statement to make. But it's just a way to say that they think they've done a great job with their game.

[TheCommentator]

Yeah, I suppose you're right about that. I overstated things a bit, but devs can turn on things like better AA or add effects to come closer to max if they have lots of overhead though. As a general rule, I would imagine that devs don't generally leave a lot of overhead on the table though.

[AgentSmithPS4]

@thekhurg http://attackofthefanboy.co...

I don't have time to find the exact source but I think Naughty Dog said at least part of the above.

[KilluaX3]

That was the case with PS3 because it was hard to develop at the beginning, but it's not the case anymore with PS4.

[Goldby]

while i agree that the ps3 was more difficult to develop for, devs are having to learn for a new system, that isnt what they are used to (last gen), so its a learning curve still for them, easier yes, but still a learning curve

[frostypants]

Just because it's maxing out the hardware doesn't necessarily mean it's optimized well. Just saying.

Looking forward to it regardless.

[Wallstreet37]

Hey it may be true for them and their capabilities, but we need to keep in mind everyone doesnt have the same talents developing for consoles and optimizing. What may be maxing out for them (given their history and how competent we see they are) and whats maxing out for the likes of Rockstar, Naughty Dog and the likes of CR Projeckt might be very distinct. Another dev would and could probably do way more given their abilities.

[Parasyte]

Haven't almost all devs said this at least once this gen?

[1nsomniac]

Devs say it every gen, with every new game release. Nothing new here & doesn't mean anything at all. More so than ever with Ubisoft.

[Inzo]

ND maxed out the PS3 three times. First with U2 then with U3 and then TLOU. The truth is at each point the PS3 was probably maxed out at that time but software keeps improving. As good as U2 looked, TLOU just looked that much better. All Im saying is even if devs keep saying they are maxing out a system, great devs like ND will keep pushing them selves to get the best out of a system, not just graphically but technically too.

[Whitey2k]

We ain't seen the ps4 footage 2 judge

[Paytaa]

I think if any devs max out current hardware it's going to be a first party dev (ex. Naughty Dog and The Coalition).

Never fall for statements like this.

[BossBattle]

That's why we'll need the next consoles sooner. 2 more years.

[Goldby]

worst idea.... ever.
they are just beginning to tap into the true power of both consoles, why screw that up and make a new system they have to relearn how to program for.

new consoles are at least 6-8 years away

[BossBattle]

Nah. They both started out way underpowered. Games have to be optimized real well on consoles to be able to pull off complexity. Optimization takes too much time. That's why we're getting 2 AAA exclusive games a year per console. By the time this current gen ends you would have played like how many AAA exclusive games?....what 10? We payed $400-$500 for 10 AAA exclusives and weak indies.I remember the PS2 had games coming back to back all year long. 3rd party games are keeping this gen alive. You almost got to have both consoles like I do to play exclusives all year long. With true raw power we'd get our money's worth with games.

[gamer9]

That would be 8-10 years for this cycle.. way too long. As they become more like pcs it's easier to switch over

[AstroCyborg]

says he company who gave us watch dogs

[Kalebninja]

Watch dogs was a last gen game and very much one of the best looking games of that gen. and you sure like to ignore their games like Farcry 4 and AC Unity which are still some of the best looking games this gen.

[AstroCyborg]

wd was marketed as the first next gen game & farcry 4 was just farcry 3.5 & unity was garbage

[Automatic79]

Game looks fantastic on Xbox One, day one pick up for me.

[Avernus]

The gaming industry has made me really cynical towards what devs say. So, I'll just say I'll believe it when I see the release version of the game. I'm no fan of Ubisoft, so I'm even more skeptical about their claims.

[Voids]

Maxing out PC huh? Worked for Watch_Dogs with all those hidden functions in the config to make the game look pretty good lol

[Wallstreet37]

This company gets zero trust from me as a consumer and their words mean %hit!!!! Far Cry 3, Watch Dogs and many other games they downgraded drastically on consoles. Big reason i havent bought a Ubisoft game since FarCry 3 and i dont regret it, im not missing out on anything.

[sadsatan]

this is beginning to look brilliant!

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I would expect nothing different from them in terms of a statement. Obviously they are going to say this.

[Jodicus6645]

I hate these articles they are just flame bait to trigger console players. Every DEV once and awhile likes to say this to make it seem like they are pushing the limit and doing everything a studio before them has not. Yet every time someone manages to come behind them and make something better. No the consoles are not maxed out your engine is, can we just state it that way from now on. Your engine is optimized the best your going to make it due to time and money constraints. Another studio can and will come behind you and do better cause they will be able to tap into more power when SDKs become more advanced.

[Pancit_Canton]

Maybe it's the other way around. Their talent and creative ideas are maxing its peak.

[sullynathan]

Devs always claim that they max things out.

[KilKarazy]

Didn't they say this about Watch Dogs...

[Roccetarius]

They're maxing it out, because there's not really much content in the game to render. ;)

[Corpser]

Maxing out ps4 is equivalent to medium setting on PC, good to know

[Speak_da_Truth]

Eh!!! I'm not really as hyped for this game as I was when it was first revealed and another game from Ubisoft comes to mind. Watchdogs got me so hyped only to be disappointed and ever since then i've not bought a Ubisoft game.

[Kallisti]

Maxing out isn't hard to do. Actually optimizing the systems at max is better.

[amnalehu]

this video is actually worth watching.

[corroios]

And it looks at best average.

[yomfweeee]

Maxing out doesn't mean much really. If there isn't any optimization, it doesn't mean squat.

[_LarZen_]

Correction. Their game engine and coding is what they can do at Ubisoft atm. Not the same as this is the limit and is maxed out.

[DLConspiracy]

Picking up on Xbox one and PC. Hard to split up friends on all platforms but until they offer crossplay for purchases I will only pick 1 or maybe 2.

[massapeal79]

I have a high end pc ps4 ps3 and xbox one but I will be getting Tomb Raider 2 and the division for my high end pc because no limitations 4k all day every day

[BABY-JEDI]

Yes, this statement is solo true until you see the Division 2, where they max your system out by 200% 😂

[ASBO-5]

Hey, I doubt it!

[LastcenuryRob]

Hasn't every developer throughout gaming history said that they were optimizing whatever system they were working on?

[Artemidorus]

I just realised it's Trollingbolt, don't give them the clicks they are not to be taken seriously.

[Gwiz]

Maxing out PC?as in MAX support for a console port?lol

Ubisoft even your lies are full of bugs and glitches.

[young7yang]

I think we are getting to the point where games no longer feel like games. The focus has been so much on graphics that we have lost the sense of artistic direction. This game looks no different than many of the other shooters that have hit the market of late. At least from my point of view. Who cares how many polygons a game has if it does not deliver at the end of the day.I guess what I am saying is that games are not what they used to be in terms of fun. Now they seem to be bound to reality a little too much and as a gamer I am starting to loose interest.

[2pacalypsenow]

Lol a Ubisoft game maxing out a PC?

[Npugz7]

Bullshit! Than why does it look only half as good as uncharted??

[SuperbVillain]

man, i feel like this game is going to be overly buggy and glitchy

[big_dom_part_2]

How can it max out the PC, when PC hardware isn't at a locked spec. Devs talking bollocks as usual.

[hiawa23]

Not sure why devs even release this info. Just make great games is all most of us gamers want. Looking forward to this game..

[masterfox]

maxing out PC too ?

http://www.reactiongifs.com...

[BuildTheWall]

Ubisoft says we maxed out consoles = We are full of shit. Game will be unplayable &will likely look like shit

[Cernunnos]

They say this, but I am willing to bet the SLI scaling is wank.

[FN4GM]

Downgrade confirmed.

[mep69]

lol maxing out the pc.... thats a little vague.

[C-H-E-F]

Developers need to stop saying that crap. They say it for every freaking game they create. The truth of the matter is... and I speak from being a Game Developer and Mobile Applications developer (IOS and Android). As a game developer you don't max out the platform, but what you do max out is your game engine capabilities on that platform. That's why you have devs of last generation saying oh we maxed out the PS3 with Saints Row for example and then you have other developers come down the road with gorgeous gems like GTA V, Uncharted 3, The Last Of Us etc. etc.

So there is a correction to be added to this statement indeed, i'm so sick and tired of these lies being spread out. Ubisoft said this same crap with Watch Dogs and then we get GTA V REMASTERED and it's bigger, and better in every way shape and form. I'm so tired of these false claims from Marketing to Development when it comes to Ubisoft and other Companies. I wish we could just sue them for false advertisement and get our money back for buying these games.

-Welp, that's my 2 cents... hopefully it's worth a dollar to you all.

[gamer7804]

ahhh this claim again, so using every cycle is not necessarily a good thing if its not optimized right, this could or could not indicate good development. This really tells us nothing.

[ybadr]

Lol, Utilizing Every Tiny Little Cycles ? Maxing out PC ? Ubisoft ?Commercial BS...

[VJGenova]

"Maxed out" but i bet no or poor xfire/sli support, aka "the ubisoft way!"

[Tsunade]

I really doubt that and coming from Ubisosoft, I expect that game to have lots of bugs. That is just pure PR talk.

[Scar-]

LOL I just came to laugh at this. Any Online ONLY game that makes this claim I am going to laugh at. Most of the assets aren't even on the HD/Blu Ray and every game that has made this claim looked FAR FAR from the part. I bet I can dig up launch titles that look better than the current build.

Holy shit I haven't seen that interviewer in years.

[Miraak82]

Only game that will convince me the ps4 is being maxed out is Uncharted 4 ....sorry division and Ubi