Final Fantasy 7 Remake - The Death of Turn-Based RPGs

Bryan Dawson (Prima Games): Final Fantasy 7 Remake has been the most anticipated and desired game of all time. There is no other game that fans have wanted more than a current generation remake of this beloved PlayStation RPG. Square Enix got a lot of hate at PlayStation Experience 2014 when the company announced the PC version of the game would be coming to the PlayStation 4. However, they made up for it when Final Fantasy 7 Remake was announced at E3 2015.

While most assumed that the battle system would change, Square made that information official shortly after the E3 announcement. At the 2015 PlayStation Experience fans got their first taste of the gameplay in the latest trailer for the upcoming title. Reactions were decidedly mixed as the trailer seemed to indicate the game would be almost entirely action-based. Given the direction of Square’s recent RPG efforts, this wasn’t all that surprising.

[-Foxtrot]

They could have kept it alive but no...thanks Square for being cowards

This would have sold well regardless

[lockedongamer1]

It's a REMAKE, a completely new take on Final Fantasy VII. The turn based RPG doesn't fit the current generation. They did that back in the day because they were restricted hardware wise, but now they can do more detailed combat systems. It makes more sense for there to be an action RPG system. I like turn based RPG's but it's a big turn off for many.

[-Foxtrot]

" The turn based RPG doesn't fit the current generation "

Who says? Is there a law that makes that true...no? Then they could do it within the remake.

It's just them getting worried about money incase it puts a small bunch of people off and they won't buy it...despite the fact a large number of people will.

If the old game had turn based then people wouldn't have been surprised if the remake did. I'd applaud them for it.

[Eonjay]

@foxtrot

But you can't applaud them for trying something new?
That takes way more courage.

[Quickstrike]

Action RPGs certainly existed back then. It's nothing new and turn based games still sell decently well. The sells of Pokemon and Bravely Default disagrees with your statement.

Also, Persona 5 is still turn based.

[CorndogBurglar]

People need to quit spreading this lie that turn based games were created due to a lack of hardware capabilities. That is 100% untrue.

Turn based games were created to mimic popular table top roleplaying games of the day, like Dungeons and Dragons. There were plenty of full on action rpg's back then. If They wanted to make FF games action based they could have.

Also, what do you mean turn based doesn't fit the generation? There are still many turn based games that are very popular.

[Silkside]

Huge Final Fantasy 7 fan here and I welcome the new combat change, the turn based combat is so outdated and boring. Seriously guys get over it, get with the times you fossils.

[Feriku]

Turn-based combat is dead? Tell that to Persona 5 and Dragon Quest and the next Pokémon game...

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

I was about to say the same thing. I don't remember any of those games giving a memo that they have changed.

[Kalebninja]

dragon quest and pokemon are mostly handheld titles and thats where turn based games sell the most. Persona isnt only on handhelds but persona 4 golden was the only title in the franchise to break a million and it was a handheld game. mind you Persona's entire franchise has only sold 6 million copies, half of those copies were from the several different releases of persona 4. looking in the past 10 years there's been one mainline dragon quest title which hasnt even sold 2 million even being multiplat. FF7's cost is astronomically higher than any of those games and on consoles today it would never hit the amount it needs if it sold like the games you listed.

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

There's no doubt that in my mind that Persona 5 is going enough to warrant a sequel which I think is the main goal here.

[Kalebninja]

"looking in the past 10 years there's been one mainline dragon quest title"

Typo: one mainline dragon quest title *on home consoles*

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed. Persona, Bravely series, Pokemon are exceptions to what most turned based JRPGs sell.

Especially Pokemon. That is like someone saying COD's 26 million units, is the norm of FPS titles lolz.

Love turn based, but they just don't pull in huge numbers like action base does, JRPGs in general regardless don't outside of the very best.

[AudioEppa]

Good, can't wait to play ff 7 remake and XV.

[Eonjay]

Turn based died with FF12's far superior gambit system.

[SouljAx360]

Turn based games aren't dead or dying. They just typically aren't big budget AAA titles anymore.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed. I'm tried of folks making it sound as if AAA means life or something lol

The only ones that even did those high end AAA turned based RPGs were Square. Its not the norm of JRPGs in general to even be "AAA" let alone turned based ones. So many amazing turn based jrpgs coming out soon too.

[Double_O_Revan]

Ni No Kuni 2 says hi.

[Max-Zorin]

It's like when people see something is not turn based, it's the end of the world.

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

The funny thing about changing something that has been supported for years is that you will have complaints.

[_-EDMIX-_]

When did they permanently remove the feature from FFVII?

Was FFVII remake not stated to be something else other then an exact copy of FFVII with better graphics?

FFVII on PC, PS1, PS3, PS4......still actually exist.

[Silkside]

Every game you losers listed in this post would be so much better without turned based combat. Go read a fantasy book or anime if you still want turned based games, you're not playing a game when it's turned base combat, it's just filler..... Yarn yarn.

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

http://static4.fjcdn.com/th...

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

Pokemon
Shin Megami Tensei/Persona
Etrian Odyssey
Atelier series
Bravely Default series
Dragon Quest

[DivineAssault]

Indies will keep them alive.. Im glad theyre ditching it.. This game has potential to be way better than a fresh coat of paint..

[kainslayer]

about time