Lucasarts Totally Pissed Over Wii MotionPlus

When Nintendo announced MotionPlus for the Wii, who knew about it? Nintendo did. And that's it. They didn't tell a soul. Not even their beloved third-party publishing and development partners, who were understandably a little upset.

[AStupidXbot]

Just delay the wii version. Problem solved.

[Zerodin]

Oh you mean the sole console version?
That's it, you're too stupid NOT to be on my ignore list.
And twice as stupid to be allowed to live.

[nieto]

look who's talking. the guy that gets owned in every thread. LOL ;-)

zerodin please never leave n4g you really make me laugh. ;-D

[Killjoy3000]

Jeez, Zerodin, WTF is your problem? Clearly, anyone wishing the end of somebody's life over the internet has no positive insight in to their own. But, I'm not going to so hastily pass my judgement on you personally, because I don't know you in real life. See what I did there?

[TheAveragePs3User]

jst delay teh ps3 vrisione of home or teh ps3 versinoe of killzones 2!

LPB FTWZ!!!!!11111!!!!!!1!!

[N00BZSUCKASS]

HAHAhaHAHAHAhahAHAH I WAS GONNA SAY THAT!!!!!!! NOT FAIR!!!!!111 U FAT PRICK!!1 LOOOL :)

[syanara]

wii just seperated the wii gaming community with motion plus

[metalhead]

Yay Nintendo, you really know how to screw up your marketing

[Prismo_Fillusion]

You do realize how much they made over the last 2 years with their "screwed up marketing", right?

[Mao]

They've made a lot of cash the past two years. But as a Wii owner, I can tell you they really don't deserve it when it comes to actual gaming delivery. I barely play my Wii. Hopefully they can start dishing out some more AAA exclusives like Mario and Zelda in the near future instead of going back to the Animal Crossing card again next year. Fall 2008 isn't going to see a whole lot of Wii gaming from your's truly.

Also, I can understand LucasArt's anger in this situation. Poor communication will cost Nintendo third party support if they're not careful.

[metalhead]

You see heres why most ppl bought the Wii. Lets say your child got into video games and your a parent who doesnt know much about them. Your child wants a new video game system and they see this PS3-$400 Xbox360-$350, and Wii-$250. They go OMG only $250 because they dont know about the advanced tech in the other systems and pick that one up. Trust me this will end though as this console generation goes by, theres goin to be such a big difference in terms of visual quality and tech that the Wii wont be able to keep up. Ive seen this happen before and it will most likely happen again

[kinggeoff]

don't play your wii much, it's nintendo that screwed up?

Ever think that the Wii just wasnt for you in the first place?

Not everyone cares about the "OMGZ NEXTZ0rz GEN TECH#!@#!" factor as you guys seem to. Yes the Wii's graphics will continue to look more and more dated as the other 2 consoles keep on the cutting edge. So what though? What classifies as a game that "looks bad enough to steer clear of" to you, is most likely right up someone else's alley.

The world's a big place. Lots of people out there. Believe it or not, you do NOT represent the majority

[ChickeyCantor]

@king
ACE!

[LJWooly]

That's right; they don't play their Wii because nothing it has to offer appeals to them, therefore they must be children. Good grief.

[Mao]

To designate us children seeing as though we don't play our Wiis, a console targetted at a younger audience. That thinking makes perfect sense to me.

[Kaneda]

They tried to be like Apple.. works on new products under secrecy.. but the only thing different between Nintendo and Apple is.. Apple releases better products..

[nieto]

that's what you get when you work with nintendo. they only care about therself and that is why they don't have the third party support the the X360, a new console and the PS3 has.

[El_Colombiano]

LMAO, wow Nintendo really doesn't support its third party devs!

[Product]

Where is the quote of someone saying this?

[Intrepid]

Yeah, where's the quote? And how did Ubisoft know about it? They're using it in Red Steel 2.

[ChickeyCantor]

Ubisoft like many other developers had a bit of head up before the e3 announcement( one at ubi said that they knew it already before the announcement but how long they knew it was not known).
Redsteel was already in developement according to that guy and now they want to use M+.

But..It's weird....after so much time UBI did not show anything of redsteel 2.

[inStereo]

If you're going to claim in your article that a developer is "totally pissed off," you may want to site some sort of source supporting the claim. Ummm... I think that's called "journalism."

[Product]

Atleast this tech is gonna be available.We will just have to wait till next year for true 1:1 star wars and tiger woods.

[BrotherNick]

Meh, it's not like Sony told anyone about the sixaxis before it came out, and they changed the controller right after nintendo unveiled theirs. People tend to forget these things, and plus this being a site for the hardcore it's going to be against anything wii. Also the kotaku link is broken, so they could be just making rumors. I don't think most of you people would get it on the wii anyways because you can't fap to the graphics. The game still seems interesting.

[Silellak]

Why did you have to bring Sony into this? Seriously?

Not everything is about the console war.

Nintendo should've told their 3rd party devs. End of story.

[BrotherNick]

I guess you're right about me bringing sony into this, it brought me some disagrees. It's still true. Anyways LucasArts still have time lol. One month is a lot.

[SmokingMonkey]

what i think happened was that Nintendo saw how excited we all got when "THE LIGHTSABER GAME" became such a interesting idea that they decided to develop a (mini) game around it (katana game/WiiSportsResort shown @ E3) with the current tech they had and couldn't do it. (WiiMote not sensitive enough/Red Steel) That's why we have WiiMotionPlus, a huge ripoff IMO because wiimotes in the future will have "WiiMotionPlus" built in. Consequently, they didn't have enough time to show 3rd party developers this new great 7th peripheral for my Wii.

^@brothernick
Factor5 is third party and they developed LAIR with sixaxis from the begging of the PS3's conception so I think they did tell at least certain developers about the sixaxis which was in RFOM and WARHAWK

[BrotherNick]

Funny because it seems like we didn't get any wind of this in E3 2006 that sixaxis was in the controller, or did they just change it because the boomerang looks a bit ridiculous?

[spectyre]

Sony didn't include the six axis as the only way to control the game. It is meant as more of a "extra" as it is not by any means mandatory to include it in game development.

[BrotherNick]

Developers could always have made support for the gamecube controllers as well spectyre. It's not really mandatory for the wii either, most of the fighting games on the wii have gamecube controller support.

[SmokingMonkey]

@brothernick
you ever notice how that boomerang looks like a steering wheel? or a flight stick? I think SONY had motion sensing in mind..i could be wrong

[BrotherNick]

Now you're just making assumptions SmokingMonkey.

For people who don't believe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Also, some comments from Incognito Entertainment, the developer behind the motion-sensing PlayStation 3 game, Warhawk, said that it received development controllers with the motion-sensing feature only 10 days or so before E3.[6] Developer Brian Upton from SCE Studios Santa Monica later clarified that the Incognito had been secretly working on the motion-sensing technology "for a while", but did not receive a working controller until "the last few weeks before E3".[7]

Which means they put the controller in last minute, they may have been working on motion sensing in general though. I'm not pulling this out of my ass, argue through research.

Oh, SmokingMonkey, can you give me a link for your Factor5 quote? Mainly because I found this: http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

September 6, 2006 - Warhawk is no longer alone in its support of the new functionality built into Sony's PlayStation 3 controller. According to the latest issue of Famitsu, the kids over at Factor 5 are working on making Lair compatible with the controller as well.

[SmokingMonkey]

this is all my speculation, the steering wheel batarang thing, so yeah you probably right. good links and argument. M$ had motion sensing in it's controllers long ago, they just didn't know how to make it work like Nintendo and other developers have made it work. I like the sixaxis and i thought the wiimote was supposed to work the way thi wiimotionplus thing works, that's why i feel ripped off for buying a Wii.

[SuperM]

Guys you cannot compare this to what sony did. If a game doesnt have sixaxis support its like whatever. If it had it that would be nice but its not like its something special if it doesnt. However a sword game that didnt know about wii motion plus is totally different. It basically means that the game could be super awesome, and now its just "pretty cool"

[spectyre]

I know it is not mandatory but you have to admit that the Wiimote is the "catch" for the Wii. It would be like making a game for PS3 thats not on blu ray or making a multiplayer game on 360 that doesn't use live.
I'm not saying Sony did or didn't give enough notice to their developers, I don't know. I didn't hit the disagree button. I just think you may be comparing apples to oranges.

[games4fun]

but they'll get over it

[pwnsause]

http://www.nintendoe32008.y... 7/15/08 Lest we forget..

RIP Nintendo
1889-2008

[psycho360]

LOl funny. But 1889??? Dint know ninty was 119 years old company maybe Reggie but not the company.

[N00BZSUCKASS]

too much sauce ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

p.s. psycho360, I wish our avatars could meet face to face. just seeing them together like this makes me feel warm inside.

[Shane Kim]

They made poker cards or something like that back then.

[sak500]

LOL @ noobz

Can i join in the fun? I wish the shane's kim gets removed as its the only sore eye here :D

[N00BZSUCKASS]

Why, of course, SAK. And I always keep that wannabe shane kim idiot on auto ignore anyway, so, it's already perfect!

[ChickeyCantor]

http://madmaxsos.ytmnd.com/

You wanna play that game?!

[l0o0ol]

OMG WTF?!? oh its Nintendo nvm.

[Pika-pie]

Nintendo dont care about gamers full stop. All they want are silly little fads that girls buy, brain training, Wii Fit etc. I had a Wii for 4 months, couldnt wait to get rid of it, whats even more funny is that I sold it to some sad person on Ebay for more than I paid hahahaha

Whenever they try to please a real gamer they screw up big time so they just dont care anymore.

Nevermind, im sure the motionplus will make Wii Music better.

[TheDeadMetalhead]

Just because Nintendo's trying out something new with all of these unique games doesn't mean that they "screw over gamers".

The thing that I like about Nintendo is that they aren't afraid to take risks once in awhile. I'm sure that they came into the whole Wii idea knowing damn well that not everyone was going to like it.

But if there wasn't anything new, unique, or risky every now and then, the Game Industry would become stale. We would eventually just get the same games with a different title time and time again. And somehow I doubt that that's very fun. Nintendo's expanding the game industry. Not destroying it.

Now I can't defend Nintendo's failure to tell 3rd party devs about the Motion-Plus. But I can kind of see where they're coming from. I don't think that they're too happy with the way some 3rd party devs have been treating their system. I'm not justifying it. I'm just trying to see things from their point of view.

No, the Wii's not perfect by any means. But neither is the PS3 or the 360. Or the DS or the PSP. But You also have to take into account that Nintendo is coming out of a 10-year slump in console gaming (the 64 and the Gamecube didn't quite measure up to the Playstations in terms of sales). Again, I'm not justifying it. I'm just looking at things from another angle.

My point is, I seriously doubt that Nintendo doesn't care about anything but money. And I KNOW that they care about the gamers (That's why they're giving gamers something different to bite into). But all of this hating on the Wii is getting ridiculous.

@ the person who disagreed

Did you even read my comment? All I'm trying to do is help you see things from a different point of view. And maybe, just possibly teach you to be a little more level-headed about things. But fine. People are going to do whatever they're going to do, huh?

[BrotherNick]

It's best not to reply to people who disagree lol. They usually have their opinions set in stone. I'm the one who agreed with you. I see what you mean. :)

[kingnick]

Nintendo had to take risks because if they stayed with the same formula they would have been third this generation as well.

Nintendo often intentionally keep third parties in the dark when dealing with new tech/accessories so they have a leg-up over them.

There's a reason more devs are working on 360 and PS3 games, it's largely due to Nintendo's business practices which heavily prioritises in-house interests to the detriment of third parties.

Hardcore gamers should not lose faith because there's another Mario and Zelda game on the way LOL. How about some new good hardcore IPs for a change Nintendo, it isn't that hard.

[jtucker78]

Hey TheDeadMetalHead

I haven't disagreed with you, but I wondered what you mean by this:

"And I KNOW that they care about the gamers (That's why they're giving gamers something different to bite into)."

I just wondered what it was that they are giving us.
I know third parties like High Voltage are giving us the Conduit.
There's Mad World and GTA for the DS.

What are Nintendo giving us? Are you talking about Animal Crossing?

[TheDeadMetalhead]

I expected Leafs117 and Slayer OP to come and try to tear into me like rabid dogs over that comment.

Anyway, yes. Animal Crossing is one of the games that I was talking about. But I was talking more along the lines of Wii Sports (And by that I mean the Motion Controls, not the game itself), Wii Fit, Trauma Center (I know it's not made by Nintendo. But it's on their system).

I wasn't talking completely about Nintendo's games. I was mostly talking about how the Wii itself manages to accomplish that. By Nintendo, we have games like Animal Crossing, Wii Sports, and Wii Fit. And from the good 3rd party devs we get Trauma Center, Zack & Wiki and Boom Blox.

That is what I meant.

As for hardcore games I think the Wii is starting to build up in that area, too. With games like Fire Emblem : Radiant Dawn, Resident Evil 4, and Resident Evil : The Umbrella Chronicles, and in the future, we have Wario Land : Shake It!, Mad World, and Fatal Frame 4. So I think that the Wii is improving much more and much faster than people are giving it credit for.

But LucasArts does have a right to be pissed off about not knowing about Motion Plus, though.

And don't even get me started on what the DS has and is getting. :)

[wicked]

Maybe they did not want it leaking onto the internet, before they could announce it.

[Fade_Walker]

LOL I like the picture.

From what I heard alot of developers are pissed about MotionPlus.

[kamisama]

im sorry but the only AAA titles i see coming from nintendo is Mario smash and zelda which im getting tired of fast.

[mistertwoturbo]

Yeah you're tired of the nintendo AAA titles. Get prepared to enjoy the mother of all AAA+++ titles.

dun dun dun...

Wii Music

[AcidHorse]

This is exactly what got them in trouble in the past. Nintendo becomes unbelievable arrogant from their paper thin lead, that is held up by a temporary fad, and then they treat their 3rd party developers with disdain. These days in America trends come and go faster than ever, one day your hot and the next you are not; music movies, TV, and yes even video games. Once the trend fades all Nintendo will have left are the few hardcore people that bothered to stick around after the abuse.

[Blackcanary]

To tell u the truth i only bought the Wii for The Legend of Zelda games i have had my Wii since Lunch and if it wasn't for the GameCube Graphics and lack of 3rd Party Games i would play it more feel sorry for the Wii fans that will never get a chance to play SC4 cause the graphics of the game kick ass.

Nintendo have made a Sh!t load of money with there fade and with there games like brain training and Nintendo Dogs this console is manly for kids.
Its a shame really just looks like there care more about there first party devs more than anything. Not sure if i will get the Motion Plus thing unless its helps the next zelda in any way but i'm not a fan of waveing my arms around like a damn a@@ really.

[ChickeyCantor]

" feel sorry for the Wii fans that will never get a chance to play SC4 cause "

WTF is wrong with people like you? because one Owns a Wii does not mean they wont get a PS3 or 360 >_<....

[IzKyD1331]

it doesnt really matter, seeing as 90% of wii owners only buy games with a red plumber on it

[ChickeyCantor]

It actually does not matter at all since Motion plus is not even coming out before the deadlines.
Their projects could never have M+ and reach their deadlines in time.
Both games are released before M+ is even out.

[jmorph9]

Motion plus or not, sword fighting requires something that motion controls can't give - the ability to parry. You know, when swords clash. The ability to defend yourself with your own sword. Maybe they can have the swords go through each other, but that is really weak. We will be waiting a long time for a real sword fighting game.

[Eiffel]

Lucas Arts made a bad marketing move with Force Unleashed by giving the Wii and Ds versions multiplayer when their clone wars game is getting multiplayer too, wtf. they can rot in hell for all I care, online would have been that games highlight but *sigh* I'll guess we will never see a better jedi multiplayer game like JKA.

[ChickeyCantor]

Where is the actual quote? I can't find it ?

I wonder if the Maker of the M+ made them shut up....
But...Lucas now you can make the REAL ultimate Starwars game on the Wii..
Even if Nintendo gave the heads up....what about Dev kids? and actuall hardware? back then?

[Reibooi]

How the Wii is still a success I will never know. I bought one and played No More Heros and Smash Bros but after that the thing just sits there unused there is nothing worth playing and Nintendo doesn't seem to care about making anything for the fans while meanwhile all we get is third party shovel ware. It makes me wonder why people are still trying so hard to get one. Shouldn't the word have spread by now that its not worth it?

[ChickeyCantor]

It seems those people love Shovelware.
Also...Saying there is nothing worth playing...thats just YOU.
You don't have to figure out why it's selling, all you need to know is that YOU don't like it.

[ChickeyCantor]

Ok lets say Lucas knew...
How on earth would they delay those starwars games untill 2009?
Starwars unleashed had his deadline because of the PS3 and 360 version.
And the version that goes about the CGI movie...comes out when the movie does...

Even if Lucas knew...it was impossible for them to use M+ in their project.

Also where is the freaking QUOTE?

[BrotherNick]

Where is the article?

[Djomblade1]

I dont know you know? LOL! Im a nintendo roots guy. I loved Nintendo and its products for many years. The problem to me is that though they have some good games like your Mario, Metroid, and Zelda, its just not enough to carry it anymore. These games albeit good, seriously lack in the REPLAY VALUE department. Once these are beaten nowadays, they are put on the shelf. Great games and then once done on the shelf. Back in the day these games were played again and again for those of us who grew up with nintendo. Unfortunately, nintendo forgot to grow up along with us. Im 29 now and its like Nintendo turned roughly 15ish and stayed there. Its almost as if they forgot about the fans who got them to where they are today with all the crap they pull today.

[Allowen]

That is bad, I got both PS3 and a Wii and I was thinking to get the Wii version over better graphics of the other vg but after reading this news that SW: Force Unleashed on the Nintendo console is 100pct confirmed it will not be able to use a super precise light saber then ...byebye.

[project76dodo]

hahha any person who owns a wii
is not a gamer

wii is a joke to real gamers
i dont care about grandpa/grandma mommy playign games
this is a joke beyond belief

stop fighting for nintendo
what do they actually do for th egaming world anymore?
oh yea they sell cheap/gimmicky crap
that doesnt compare to what nintendo should have put out

wii is the only system from nintendo i wont ever buy

they use to make games
not sell me mario tennis/mario dance/mario this and that

ahhh!!!

PS3 and Dreamcast FTW!!!!!!

[LossTheEarthbreaker]

I own a Wii. I'm definitely more of a gamer than you will be or ever have been.

I like the PS3 and DC, but am not dumb or ignorant enough to make vast and exaggerated assumptions and generalizations, like you.

Oh, and the Open Zone is that way -------------------->

[project76dodo]

you own and play a wii
your no gamer

i play "big boy games"

cod4 mgs4 uncharted

yea im a real gamer
you are not
so just go swing your arms around!!!
i mean play your "console" hahahhahahahhaa

[PenisaurisDix]

I never met a computer graphic I didn't like. Sorry, I need this game in high-def. So PS3 or 360 it is (depending on framerate, render diff. and achievements / trophy list).

[Mikea]

Maybe they just want to kids to play their games...

[redsnake]

I own a ps3 and an xbox so i obviously chose not to buy a wii. however i would like to think of myself as some1 with no bias. however i do think that it is rediculous that somebody would have to purchase a wii motion plus for every controller.