Xenoblade Chronicles X - Lin's outfits changed in the west

Nintendo and Monolith Soft have made a couple of changes to Xenoblade Chronicles X to reveal less skin for one of the game's characters.

[Yi-Long]

Ridiculous self-censorship. Pathetic.

[EcoSos3]

You have to remember that this is the US where we can have as much violence as possible, but when you show a little bit of nudity people go insane.

[iplay1up2]

I agree 100%. TV in other countries hasnwaaaaay less censorship. It's just a game and its T+ its not like GTA.

[Bimkoblerutso]

You know, it actually doesn't seem that much less suggestive, to be honest. Is underboob more acceptable than regular cleavage for some reason? What a weird case of censorship...

[Mykky]

I honestly don't mind. Having a thirteen old girl dressed up in perverted clothes doesn't really make the game very attractive to me. Though ameircas policy is total crap where you can't even show a niple but showing stabbing and murders are totaly fine.

[deafdani]

@Blimkoblerutso:

Nope. Both the underboob and regular cleavage outfits are from the japanese game.

The other outfits, that looks more like little girl clothes... those are the censored versions.

Yeah. Pretty strong censorship here. :/

[Yi-Long]

To me, the issue isn't about the 13 year old girl, or nudity.

I honestly couldn't care less.

The issue is censorship, and in this case, self-censorship, and IMHO, also completely unnecessary self-censorship. You're changing the character-design purely out of fear for the POSSIBLE reactions the design MIGHT get. That's just stupid.

And what's even more stupid is that the change is so minor, that in the end the outfit is STILL skimpy, although slightly less than before, so anyone who was going to get upset about a 13 year old girl in a skimpy outfit, will probably still do so.

She's 15 in the Western version BTW, which is also a stupid change, of course.

[DragonKnight]

After the B.S. that Nintendo went through with their Tomodachi Life game, I don't blame them for taking any and every step possible to prevent the SJWs from coming down on them with their incessant whining about nothing.

Just imagine what would have happened had Nintendo not censored this game.

MUH SOGGY KNEES!!!

[Bimkoblerutso]

@deafdani

Ah, I thought the two on the left were the Japanese and the two on the right were the American ones. Bad reading comprehension on my part.

God, that's terrible. Apparently Nintendo wants people to believe that 13 year old girls are wearing another full set of clothes underneath their clothes...this is bad even by censorship standards.

[MrBrofist]

She is 13. That is the reason it was edited and in places like Australia, this can be considered child porn. They are very strict on that.

[Duoma]

i dont even know how you even got disagrees. whoever did is delusional as all hell lol. th contrast between the public outcry between the constant school shootings and when janet jacksons boob accidently flashed on tv is a perfect example of what you are saying. hell people get more outraged at thee celebrity bullcrap on tv than when another school shooting happens.

Edit: On a side note I can see where some would be up in arms seeing as how shes 13. this part is just my personal opinion: no girl under legal age should be wearing anything close to whats in that pic

[Phil32]

The girl in question is 13. In Japan, child sexuality isn't as big a deal as in the West, where it could be construed as child pornography. If you find it pathetic, that's your perogative. I'd love to see you argue how not having a scantily-clad 13 year old makes this version of Xenoblade Chronicles X any worse without coming across as a creep.

[Yi-Long]

Maybe not everyone in the world immediately thinks of sex when they see a child in a bathing suit or summer clothing...!?

[Big_Game_Hunters]

@ yi long

Sure, But some people people do. Especially Fox News, Fem Frequency, and other similar parties with a large following. Its an image issue more than a moral issue with businesses. No large company wants to be viewed as the company that lets you sexualize 13 year old girls. Japan is different so its not an issue there.

[Mykky]

Yi-Long
Why would a thirteen year old wear a a bathing suit or summer clothing to a galactic war battle?

[DragonKnight]

@Mykky: So you accept that a 13 year old is actually fighting a galactic war battle, but have a problem with what they're wearing to said battle? Wow.

[moegooner88]

Ironically people upset by this are no different from the supposedly sjw they complain about. They just want a 13 year old girl sexualized for the sake of it, nothing else.

[Yi-Long]

@Moe: So you're saying that Nintendo or any company is completely right in changing an artist's vision/design purely because idiots will find an issue with it!?

So basically, you're perfectly fine with (self) censorship, or at the very least, you understand and agree with it...

Well, I don't.

I'm of the 'dont like it!? Then don't buy it' crowd.

GTA always gets a lot of negative whining as well. Should they just give in and start self-censorsing their product even more? What about Mortal Kombat?

(Self-censorship) is a very slippery slope, so you should want to stay off it completely.

Especially when there's nothing objectionable to begin with, and all the drama is mostly in the eye of the beholder.

[Phil32]

Yi-Long, you're comparing an unapologetic M-rated game in GTA V with a T-rated game in Xenoblade Chronicles X published by Nintendo, a family-friendly company. If you want to argue that it might devalue the artist's vision, that's fine and well. I disagree, but arguing that underboob on a 13-year old is subjective in viewing as sexual is being obtuse for the sake of being obtuse.

[marloc_x]

You dig sexy children?

Pathetic.

[DragonKnight]

Look boys and girls, this is what's called a strawman.

[Yi-Long]

Like I already mentioned, I couldn't care less about 13 year olds or nudity.

If this had been a 80 year old guy in a small red Speedo that got (censored)/changed to adjust for your conservative western attitudes, I would have complained as well.

In fact, my whole post-history will show that I have always objected to (self-) censorship, be it the censorship of violence, or in this case Japanese character-design.

My point is that you shouldn't be changing the product ONLY in order to please a certain portion of the crowd because you are AFRAID they will cry foul about it.

Let them. If they immediately think of SEX when they see a young girl (looks like a Pug dog btw) in a skimpy outfit, well.. I think the problem is mostly with them.

Oh not to mention the fact she's completely fictional, digital, has a face like a Pug Dog, and is a 13 year old GENIUS that goes into war...(!)

But hey, let's just slut-shame her instead.

BTW, isn't America THE country that dresses up 8 & 9 year olds (and even younger) in Children's Beauty Pageants!? You know, REAL children who are made to dress and behave overly seductive, mature, etc etc...!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

[Shnazzyone]

this is what sjw's are doing to gaming

[Phil32]

And people who call others SJWs are usually pathetic Gamergaters who harass anyone with threats and intimidation when they don't agree with their opinion instead of acting like adults. I'd rather be called an SJW than be associated with Gamergate.

[MrBrofist]

If SJW are keeping under age girls in questionable outfits away from my games then kudos to them!

[superherox7]

@Phil32 Lol. Do you really believe Gamergate is a hatemovement?
How about you do some research and stop lisening to what big brother tells you?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ko...

^Thats to get you started :3

[Duoma]

the hell is a SWJ ? i hate when people assume everyone knows what an acronym means... thats why i hate acronyms.

[pcz]

are they going to leave the mech-suits in? or are they going to be replaced with little ponies with rainbow coloured hair?

[marloc_x]

Are you rooting for the latter?😌

[pcz]

if the ponies can fly and hold guns, i suppose its ok ;)

[R00bot]

Ehh, I wasn't gonna be equipping any of that creepy stuff anyway.

[krontaar]

Not the point

[R00bot]

What is the point then? You want to be able to equip this clearly underage child with overly sexualised bikini "armor"?
Sorry, I get that censorship can annoy some people, but I completely understand why it is utilized in this circumstance.
There really was nothing Nintendo could do, keep the clothing and people will ask why you can dress an underage girl in it, censor it and you get people crying out about censorship.
You can always equip this armor on any of the other female characters in the game (you know, the ones that aren't underage?)...

It's Nintendo's game, they can do what they want with it.

[DragonKnight]

There's an underage child? Where? I mean, the game has fictional non-people who aren't alive and incapable of actually being sexually molested so you can't be talking about Xenoblade right?

[Stringerbell]

Nintendo has been doing this since the days of the NES. Nothing new to see here...

[RosweeSon]

She's 13?! Dirty bastardos.

[DragonKnight]

She's 0. She doesn't exist. She's a pixelated facsimile of a humanoid person with completely unrealistic body proportions to begin with, and if "she" had an age, it would actually be however long the development of the game was, not 13 years.

[MRMagoo123]

I always say the same thing but they don't listen. They somehow think a pixel in a game us being abused. I just don't understand it at all. The ppl with the problem are the ones that can't see real life from video games like half the ppl in this thread.

[Phil32]

...You're actually making the argument that a digital character with a backstory and age by the developers is in fact not any age, so it doesn't matter? Holy God. The mental gymnastics being displayed here to have you people not come across as utter creeps is astounding. Wow.

[DragonKnight]

You're actually considering that a fictional non-person has an age and is thus bound by real world societal expectations, norms, and "rules" so you shouldn't be talking about mental gymnastics.

I mean, you're upset about what color of pixels are being represented on a screen, because that's all this is. There is no outfit, it's pixels of a different shape and color made to represent an outfit and you're calling people creeps over it. Just think about that for a second. You're taking a moral position to defend the "purity" of non-existent people, at the same time you have no problem accepting that a 13 year old is fighting a war.

And you have the gall to talk about mental gymnastics? Wow.

[MrBrofist]

She represents a 13 year old child.

Believe it or not, the are some creepos out there getting hot and bothered of these images.

Child pornography is a serious problem and this is why we should not encourage people to sexualize children/teens in any medium because people who lust after children uses these images for their own gratifications
and it's only a matter of time before someone gets tired of looking at porn and start perusing sex.

Also like I said before, some places like Australia are strict with these types of issues so they probably wouldn't be able to release it without it being edited

[Eamon]

LOL @ Phil32

Could not have said it better myself.

[DragonKnight]

Pedophiles don't need video games to be pedophiles. It's the standard argument used against any medium to force some kind of ideology or puritanism or any other agenda.

"There are psychopaths out there, so we shouldn't promote violence in video games."

"There are bigots out there, so we shouldn't promote racism in video games."

You name it, there's someone out there doing it. There are 7 billion people in this world, and you'll never stop all the sickos out there by censorship of any kind. If anything, you encourage them to become more secretive and more clever with how they go about being themselves.

Honestly. You people are arguing for the "innocence" and "purity" of a non-person, a non-entity, a facsimile with no agency, no self-awareness, no sentience, and no physical form. It's as if you think someone would see the costume, then go out and molest a 13 year old because of the game. Just like Anita Sarkeesian thinks we all go out and act with hatred and distrust of women because of games, and just how Jack Thomson thought we go out and shoot up schools because of games.

It's really pathetic how incapable so many seem to be able to disassociate fiction from reality. Which is ironic because that should mean that Sarkeesian and Thomson were in the right all along.

[FallenAngel1984]

Nintendo has a long history of censoring content on their platforms

[Segata]

If you want 13 year olds in bikini's you are Jared Fogle.

[raWfodog]

I really hope the disagrees that you got were from 13-year olds...

[MegaRay]

Not all. Lot of them are 14 tho.

[Concertoine]

Im 13 and a half, dammit!

[Skate-AK]

Really though. Who here would be ok with their 13 year-old daughter dressing like the second image? I know it's a game but that is a little much for me.

[SweatyFlorida]

Japan at its finest.

[Kalebninja]

Yeah, all people are seeing is censorship so they really don't care why. That kind of design for a child character is not okay.

[ICANPLAYGAMES2]

Yeah, but the reality is I've seen plenty of kids I presume to be around that age possibly younger with their parents or whomever dressing in swimwear (and other clothing) just as bad or worse (sometimes with the parent or whatever wearing the same damn things). Just go into practically any clothing store and look at what is on the shelves there, marketed as kids clothing. My point is, the game isn't portraying anything that isn't already out there, whether it's the Japan markets, European, or here in North America. If they really felt the need to make a change, why not just alter the age in the localizing?

[Phil32]

Where the hell do you look at kids dressing like that? Serious question. If you have seen swimwear like that that barely covers a girl's breasts, then that's on the parent and it certainly doesn't make it right.

[ICANPLAYGAMES2]

@Phil32 - I agree, and I'm a parent, have a young daughter myself, there is this public access pool area for our community, my wife and I like to take our kids to, because it is inexpensive and a seemingly safe environment. I seriously can't recall a time we have been there, that you look around and just have to shake your head at what some people apparently are comfortable with.

[DragonKnight]

Ladies and Gentlemen, say hi Mr. Logical Leap. The idea that a fictional facsimile of a humanoid wearing a bikini equates to you wanting your 13 year old daughter dressed the same way.

[Skate-AK]

C'mon man. I have agreed with you on a ton of topics over the years here but don't try to twist my words around. My question was more rhetorical than literal. In no way did I say what you insinuated.

My point is if people aren't comfortable seeing a 13 year old dress like that in real life, why would they want to see a fake character do it? Its just a little weird man, real or not. Also I am not condemning the people that are anti-censorship, I believe that 99% of things shouldn't be censored but having a 13 year old in a bikini is odd to me. Adding the JP costume and the EU one would be ideal. That's no reason to start labeling me.

[MRMagoo123]

@ skate

What you don't get is this character in the game has no age at all they are not real so who gives a flying fart what they are dressed like. Have you thought about getting up in arms about the fact the same character is fighting monsters and bad guys ? If clothes bother you so much on a fictitious character you may need to see a dr.

[DragonKnight]

Saying that you used a logical leap is not labeling you, it's commenting on the argument you made, which is a leap in logic. In the first place "appropriate age" is a subjective thing, that's why there isn't a standard age of adulthood or majority for the whole world. Every culture views it differently. Some cultures put men and women through cultural trials as young as the age of 9 and if they pass these trials then they are considered adults. Biologically speaking, every human is an adult the moment they enter puberty.

Society has created these arbitrary restrictions and conditions. So where you say you'd be uncomfortable seeing a 13 year old wearing a bikini, for that 13 year old it could be completely normal for them to do so because they are not bound by the societal norms of where you grew up because they're from somewhere else where the norms are different.

And in the end, reality and fiction are not the same thing. We should be able to separate the two. If you're uncomfortable with a 13 year old wearing a bikini, real or fake, why aren't you uncomfortable with a 13 year old fighting a war and killing? That happens in real life in some places too.

[PlatinumGX]

Censored version looks better anyway.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.

The uncensored versions didn't bother me, but the changed versions look like they might actually provide defense.XD

Plus, she looks cute in them, so points for not losing that factor.

People are trying to turn this into a bigger deal than it actually is; two costumes changed to be less revealing is hardly worth screaming "OMG EXTREME CENSORSHIP, NINTENDO'S EVIL!".XD

[Metallox]

Yeah, I thought that too.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

If anyone is wondering why she looks like a midget in this photo its because the camera angle. They didn't rework her proportions.

[JacketsNest101]

There is no confirmation that those are the same armor sets. Until I see actual armor set names, I am not going to believe any of this.

[Hoffmann]

But for me, it was Tuesday.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Well, you ARE a man who loves his leotards, Bison... XD

[Hoffmann]

...of Course!! Nothing fits the dolls more than those!

[RPGrinder]

Good. They made better costumes

[TheOtherVitaOwner]

I'm confused, who the hell is the source and why should I believe he's legit. Especially with that janky first screenshot

[ZaWarudo]

No way she's thirteen. Not with that body.

ahem...

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

The last words of many a man, right before they were carted off to meet good old Bubba...*shivers*

But in all seriousness; there's a reason she looks the way she does.
I won't spoil it, but there's more to her than meets the eye...

[benji101]

Monkeyman all the characters are actually the same. They are all >ob==s

[ErogeMaster]

Again western localization gets rekt in this department.

[benji101]

I just hope they dont cut the scene where she blows Lao.. that would suck..

[ZeekQuattro]

Love how people try to blow this up as if it breaks the game. I don't have an issue with this.

[Ck1x]

This is actually disgusting that people are upset about a portrayed 13yr old girl in a revealing bikini being censored. It's not about whether she's real or not, a game with simulated violence doesn't get its rating because of its closer to life like "graphics". It's the act of what is being portrayed that determines the ratings that these games get...

[MRMagoo123]

So you are fine with a 13 year fighting in a galactic war tho right ? Get your head out of your arse

[Ck1x]

No I'm not fine with it and I never said I was. But I'm not the one that's about to burn flags and crosses over the content that was changed. People like to pick and choose when they are for or against something.

I said this in another post, this is all fueled by the company's platform the game is on and nothing else. This much discussion wasn't had over the indie game that Sony had the name censored to Bombing Busters over the name Bombing Bastards. Or how about some of the reviews for Bayonetta 2 where they docked points for the game being to sexual.(What) But people are okay with content that has no place in an RPG that's about fighting for survival and extinction of a planet.(got bikinis? Check)

I could see people's arguments on this matter if the content that was changed was integral to the story or the characters personality. But it isn't and people are looking for a reason to bitch about Nintendo... (like I stated in the reasons above)

[Overwhelming]

Why censor the left eye too?

[Big_Game_Hunters]

Best comment 2015

[MrBrofist]

We just gotta make a big deal out of nothing.
Since when has what a character wore became more important than the character themselves?

Games get edited/censored all the time.

FF6 had some of the espers censored and no one cared back then. Why care now?

I know, because it's Nintendo.
People gotta find the tiniest things they do distract people from their games.

I for one, don't like scantly clad characters in my games because it seems to me that the developers care more about selling sex than selling the game itself. If it matches the character's personality then fine but these days seems like everyone is more interested in having a peep-show.

I'm in my 30's. Id hit a strip club if that's what I
wanted to see.
I ain't Jared from the Subway commercials so I'm ok with the change

[Dunban67]

this was a day 1 buy for me- but due to the fact it took them so long to release in the US and the censorship ill wait till it goes on sale if i get it at all- I ll jst replay the original Xenoblade instead-

The costumes are optional (in Japan anyway) and the raing is T so they should have just left the choice stay-

[TheTwelve]

I was angry about this until I realized the censorship in question involved a 13 yr old girl. I'll pass.

[SouljAx360]

To the people complaining about this, get off of my planet. She's supposed to be a 13 year old character. They understand that underage girls in "sexy" outfits aren't acceptable over here. They shouldn't face criticism for doing the right thing.

[MegaRay]

Ok, but what planet you recommend?

[DivineAssault]

Thats BS! These "western" outfits arent even creative.. I could understand changing her age but this is stupid..I wish i could read japanese.. I wouldnt even bother with western consoles..

[FoxyGotGame]

I'm against censorship for the right reasons, and this is one. The character in question is only a 13 year old Girl. Not great publicity for a culturally different demographic.

Anyway, it looked out of place & tacky for this kind of game. For a minute I thought they teamed up with Team Ninja for a Dead or Alive Crossover /

[DonBugen]

I think that people are being a little short-sighted when they argue against censorship like this, saying "If you think of sex when you see a thirteen-year-old in a swimming suit, then you're the one with the problem."

Completely forgetting that the character's design was made with the intention of causing a sexual attention or, at the very least, emulating a style of dress that kids wear to cause sexual attraction.

If you can look at this and honestly believe that when the character was being designed, the art department wasn't going for a 'sexy teen' angle, then you're either extremely naive or are blatantly lying to yourself. And anything is designed to encourage adults to have sexual feelings towards children is despicable.