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Sony's Double Whammy - Excitement Is Building But Do We Need To Keep Our Expectations In Check?

In this week’s exciting edition of the Lost Spark Podcast Antony and Darren talk all things Sony with some great announcements about Paris Games Week and The PlayStation Experience and try and predict what they have in store for us. Should the Sparks temper our excitement to avoid disappointment or will Sony blow us away!

The Sparks' also dissect the news about the interesting competitor to Kickstarter, Project Fig and look at the key differences between the two and get nerdy about the re-release of an old classic.

Darren starts his journey in to Metal Gear Solid 5 at Ground Zero(s), buys an Ewok and shares just how amazing it feels to hold the Worlds Second Place in Rare Replay’s Jetpac Snapshot Challenge.

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RpgSama3594d ago

TRIPLE WHAMMY, they also have their TGS conference.

TFJWM3594d ago

Considering all the smaller exclusives that have been announced lately they must have a few heavy hitters planned.

RpgSama3593d ago

They are going to show 100% sure one new First Party AAA game per Conference, that's a given, maybe more than one in one or two of those shows and at least one new AAA third party exclusive between those 3 shows.

After that 2 o 3 new AA/PSN/INDIE exlusives per show between indie developers and their own first party smaller teams and a lot of Ps3/Vita/Ps4 games from Japan.

MrSec843593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

@RpgSama:

More than one seems very likely.
London Studio hasn't released any major home console exclusives for years, yet they're the second largest studio at WWS.
I think we'll hear one of their games and it'll be a huge new PS4 exclusive.
That and QD's new IP will be announced at PGW.

TGS seems a given to have Level-5's PS4 exclusive, likely Dark Chronicle, since that was trademarked recently and the IP still has a solid following.
Team Gravity has something in development, so maybe GR2 or a new IP.
Verendus has proved himself as legit recently, so maybe his leak of a huge FF style RPG being in development at Japan is true and Sony will reveal that at either TGS or Playstation Experience.

GT7, God of War, Bend's Game and maybe Sucker Punch Productions next PS4 games could all be contender's for games Sony will reveal at Playstation Experience (along with the RPG from Japan).

Some of these may be 2017 releases, but I get the impression that Sony have been giving their studios room to breath and sooner or later many of these projects will be ready to go.
Looking at how Horizon was handled I think Sony will just wait until major games are only months from release before they're announced.

Guerrilla's last 2 games both got announced only 9 months before release, same goes for Bloodborne, so maybe Sony has decided to wait until games are less than a year from release before they're announced.
2016 seems like it will be massively packed out for PS4 AAA exclusives.

Sony have always been a slow burner when it comes to their home console exclusives.
Seems likely we'll get a similar level of announcements at PSX compared to E3, Paris Games Week could be similar too, with perhaps TGS being a little lighter, since that's not such a big event.

I guess we'll find out next month at TGS.

Automatic793593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

I am looking forward to Sony conferences and game announcements. I want to hear about God of War.

VsAssassin3593d ago

I'm starting to get the feeling that the next God of War will be named differently. I'm thinking it's gonna be just "Kratos". If done correctly, he can have a new set of adventures without having a pre-determined goal (like how GoW 1 to 3 determined the whole plot of the series).

GearsOfWar3593d ago

I would love to see a new God of War. With how trends of remastered exclusives have been going, usually we see a remaster, and then the following year we get the next entry in the series.

God of War sequel in fall 2016 would be awesome. Would be a nice bomb to drop at Playstation Experience.

DazzaGamer3594d ago

I'm hoping for a No Man's Sky release date... Well i can dream.

Roronoa04113594d ago

If I were to guess without going overboard..

TGS:
Nier Project
Gravity Rush 2
Level 5's New IP
The Last Guardian Gameplay

PGW
Gran Turismo 7
Quantic Dream New IP
Dreams Gameplay
Horizon Gameplay

PSX
Sony Bend New IP
MLB The Show 16
SFV Character Reveals

morganfell3594d ago (Edited 3594d ago )

Look for Wild on stage at the Paris show. Also possibly the Guerrilla Cambridge project.

Roronoa04113593d ago

Thats what I wasn't sure about.. I know they are working on Rigs for Morpheus which looks awesome, but there was also that article about them working on a "multi-million dollar Franchise". In an interview I watched on Rigs a developer said they have a team of around 80 people. This means if they are working on something I'm guessing it's Killzone and Guerrilla Cambridge must be getting some assistance from Guerrilla Amsterdam Since they have a team of 270.

Gority3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

Isn't Cambridge just working on that VR game? Rigs. I thought the rest of their employees were helping with other projects, not a second one, but could be wrong.

morganfell3593d ago

No you are correct. And it is Rigs I want to see.

ninsigma3594d ago

Has it been confirmed that the level 5 game isn't the new dragon quest game?? If so then come oooonnn ni no kuni 2 :D

scark923593d ago

Hype! I hope they announce a Nier Remaster at TGS for those who missed it, it is quite rare nowadays.

guyman3593d ago

That is pretty epic. Im especially looking forward to sony bend

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FoxyGotGame3594d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

E3 & Gamescom 2015 was awesome for all Gamer's. These upcoming events should be great for Multiplatform Gamer's too! I liked almost everything Sony & MS showcased this year!

I would expect to see more on Shenmue 3 & TLG and tons of JRPG's @TGS. David Cage will be wowing us with whatever game/s he'll show up with, as well as WiLD, and unknown games @PGW etc....PSX 2015 may throw up GT7, GOW Reboot reveals. Just a few examples, Sony Bend, Sony Santa Monica, Guerrilla Games & Media Molecule and one of the best of Sony Worldwide Studios, Naughty Dog should all be there in full force.

PS4/X1 prove the Console Market is Thriving, not in decline like so many Industry pundits have commented of late /

paulogy3593d ago

It's hard for me to know how these might get distributed between Tokyo Game Show, Paris Games Week, and PlayStation Experience , but I know what I'm eager to see between now and the end of 2015. So here's my hopes and best guesses of what we'll see more of, and when:

TGS
+ The Last Guardian
+ Persona 5
+ Bloodborne DLC
+ Hot Shots Golf PS4
+ SFV
+ Deep Down (if it still exists :-/)
+ Gran Turismo 7 (with more at Paris)

Paris
+ Quantic Dream project
+ Dreams
+ Wild
+ Rime
+ No Man's Sky release date
+ The Witness release date

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+ Horizon!
+ ABZU
+ What Remains of Edith Finch
+ Hunger
+ Sony Bend and/or Sucker Punch new project (probably just a logo and some concept art)
+ Uncharted 4 progress report
+ New God of War tease?

Oh and of course many more details about Morpheus VR (final name, price point, bundles, launch titles & future roadmap) throughout.

jb2273593d ago

That looks like an absolutely feasible and very enticing lineup of reveals. Can't wait to see how it all pans out, but I could see the majority of your predictions coming to fruition.

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK2d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent751d 17h ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 23h ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif1d 21h ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer1d 17h ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin1d 17h ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Agent751d 17h ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer1d 17h ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 13h ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer18h ago(Edited 17h ago)

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer2d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused2d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher2d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning772d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay1d 22h ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer1d 17h ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198120d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK20d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts20d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

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@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT23d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits22d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel122d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic22d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN22d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel121d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica22d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14922d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga22d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania23d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts23d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7722d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7722d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts22d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7722d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb22d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow22d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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