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Crackdown 3: "technically, there is no limit"

Gamereactor caught up with series creator David Jones after seeing the game in action for ourselves during Gamescom, and we had plenty of questions regarding the cloud-powered system that makes city-wide destruction possible.

"It's fully dynamic," Jones said of the server-based multiplayer element. "I mean basically, technically, there is no limit. So it's a fully dynamic system, we will design... there is obviously is a cost issue, so for us as game designers there always is.

"For us it's about ‘how many do we need to provide the experience that we want?' And that's really what we're focussing on. The great thing is we know we have a system that can dynamically handle whatever we want to do creatively."

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BallsEye3595d ago

Daaamn! Can't wait to see what future will bring with help of cloud. I'm guessing at some point, most games will be "streamed" on even larger scale. This will eliminate the need for devs to study new hardware, and MS to release new machine. XO is basically gonna be a hub to a powerful server farm. That's where gaming is heading, and that's the only way to keep consoles on par or stronger than PC's (in a way, thanks to the cloud).

TLG19913595d ago

I agree game streaming will be common place someday, but new consoles will have to be released surely. local power for offline gaming will ALWAYS be wanted.

personally i say always online bring it on, like your other point devs wouldn't need to keep studying new hardware.

poppinslops3595d ago

I haven't used PSNow, but I've heard mixed reports with regards to lagginess... I assume that certain core aspects of any game would ideally remain hardware-bound - character/vehicle controls, player actions, story content etc.

Crackdown's destruction seems like a core gameplay element - one I'd have assumed was impossible to stream, given the detail - but it appears the devs have got a way to bypass certain hardware limitations in order to provide the 'impossible' dream of total destruction.

The mind boggles.

Eventually devs will start to layer multiple cloud functions into individual titles... a game whose AI, destruction and weather are all being handled off-site probably won't happen anytime soon, but the idea isn't as outlandish as it once was.

It's the WAY of the FUTURE, but that doesn't necessarily mean that hardware will be consigned to the past... at least not until that glorious day when everyone gets South-Korean internet (another 'impossible' dream).

darx3595d ago

Game streaming is not the future. They way Steam handles DRM is the future.

raggy-rocket3595d ago

The technology involved in this game is astounding. Giving me the online destruction in an open world I thought we wouldn't see for at least a decade! Seeing the gameplay made me so happy, shame people are desperately denying it or downplaying it as easy to do. I can't wait for this game!

Dark_king3595d ago

Its most certainly not easy to do as I have something similar myself I have been working on the last 5 years.Though I would love to see there code might take years off what im working on.Though until we see it in real world conditions we should all keep composed.

XeyedGamer3595d ago (Edited 3595d ago )

I thought 100% destruction was 'limited' to multiplayer.

Chaosdreams3595d ago

Sky is the limit. That's where the Clouds are.

#Logic

SquidBuck3595d ago

Hashtags on n4g are pointless.

Chaosdreams3595d ago

#HashtagsAlwaysPointless

lol

beans3595d ago

I'm loving this more and more!If everything goes well CD3 will set the norm on X1.

FlexLuger3595d ago

For xbox exclusives at least. But im hoping Ms will assist devs that want to use it for XB1 games. I think BF on XB1 seems like a no brainer. And that game has nowhere near the level of destruction as crackdown...but it could if MS, EA and DICE have a chat.

I can see it being use in the next forza horizon as well for some strange reason.

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Tencent to buy Crackdown and Sackboy developer Sumo in $1.3bn deal

Tencent is set to buy Sumo Group in a deal worth $1.27bn (£919m), the companies have announced.

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Darkborn1428d ago

Tencent is really buying up everything. I'm surprised everyone is selling to them like this.

Rebel_Scum1428d ago

They want/need capital I guess.

darthv721428d ago

No way they are worth that much. They are a support studio. I guess tencent decided to throw them an insane price that Sumo would be crazy to turn down.

Its like the godfather. "Im going to make you an offer you cant refuse"

UltraNova1427d ago

Always the case.

Who owns the rights to Crackdown and Sackboy IPs though?

boing11428d ago

I've heard some time ago, that they created a special unit that has a mission to search for acquirable devs all around the globe.

-Foxtrot1428d ago

Going off their business practices they seem like a cancer in this industry

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blacktiger1428d ago

chinese currency, no limit in printing, but they are selling in USD

PrinceAli1428d ago

Maybe because they're a publisher of games with a history of success loool..?

barom1428d ago

Even Microsoft can’t compete with that kind of money.

Zeref1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

Uhm yes they can.. What do you mean?

Zeref1428d ago

Money talks, Besides, those developers don't need to worry about income anymore.

enkiduxiv1427d ago

I doubt anyone that matters to the actual production of the games is getting a raise. The only thing that has changed is that now they can't buy any Winnie the Poo products for their kids.

senorfartcushion1428d ago

Well they’re allowed. America and China are leading the world in toxic capitalism.

n1kki61428d ago

As publicly traded companies it's either they sell and potentially get more, or tencent initiates a hostile takeover and buys at least 51% of the shares. These companies might not even be amicable to the buy out but opt to take it because hostile takeovers are terrible.

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frostypants1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

Yep. A company that built itself by ripping off IP of small, innovative developers and out-marketing them. Tencent is everything wrong not just with gaming but corporate ethics in general, and the assymetric regulatory playing field we for some reason permit from the Chinese government. Egregiously corrupt companies like Tencent should be banned from the US market.

senorfartcushion1428d ago

The US market would take Tencent to dinner and have it naked on the bed by midnight if it could. America and China are as bad as each other

Lightning771428d ago

They can take Sumo those devs really aren't that great. Sack boys big adventure scored good however but Crackdown 3 wasn't great. They're 50/50 Sony will find a suitable replacement for Sack boy. MS desperately needs a suitable replacement for crackdown, if it's not already too late in terms of fanfare at this point.

Sumo to me isn't that big of a deal there are better devs out there.

senorfartcushion1428d ago

Crackdown 3 was cancelled and remade a few times. Hardly their fault.

darthv721428d ago

This is the same Sumo who made Outrun 2, 2006 Coast to Coast, Sonic Racing Transformed as well as Forza Horizon 2 on the 360. I think they are better than you give them credit for.

Wulfer1427d ago

You might want to walk this statement back. Why else do you think this game goes for over $200 now?

https://www.ebay.com/p/5144...

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ScootaKuH1428d ago

I'm surprised Sumo are valued so high

solideagle1428d ago

yeah, thats what I thought. $1.3 billion is very high, Insomniac sounds like a bargain deal for Sony!

chadwarden1428d ago

And they likely bought Housmarque and Bluepoint for even less than Insomniac.

phoenixwing1428d ago

at the two above me,
it's easy to sell for less when you know you're in good hands business and culture wise. I mean sure you could scratch out some extra money elsewhere but are all the people you know going to be taken care of when you get bought out? Sony takes care of them. Basically you can tell who's a scheming money scumbag by what ceo's/execs choose to be bought by. In the end money talks but there's extras to consider sometimes.

roadkillers1428d ago

I am as well. They do not own any IPs from my understanding...

DOMination-1428d ago

Me too! After looking them up, it seems like they were the parent of other game studios: Lab42, Red Kite, Sumo India, The Chinese Room and PixelAnt Games and also have some cryptocurrency technology.

They may also still hold the IP for back when they were Gremlin Interactive.. back in the Amiga days they were really a dev of some repute.

ScootaKuH1428d ago

Gremlin. Now there's a name that takes me back. Ocean as well.

Teflon021428d ago

They're not, it's likely them just throwing money around to make sure they have no opposition. Sumo is a valuable developer as they've assisted in alot of great games. They did LBP3, Sackboy, Sonic Transformed, I believe Assisted in both ModNation Racers and LBPK, Team Sonic racing, just to name the few off the top of my head that I own.

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IRetrouk1428d ago

I honestly thought ms or Sony would have nabbed them, seeing as they have worked for both on their respective ips, colour me surprised.

Bennibop1428d ago

It's a lot of money for a group with no ips, what would they have worked on to keep so many studios and staff employed. For now at least they continue working on ips for the likes of Sony and Microsoft.

IRetrouk1428d ago

Sony and ms have more than enough ips to keep em busy, the price would have been an issue though, that I agree with, just surprised is all🤷‍♂️

frostypants1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

Tencent doesn't exactly pride themselves on original IP anyway. They just steal someone else's. They only need developer drones.

Sephiroushin1428d ago

They have enough to make them busy but there is no point in buying the studio that high, they could just make the developers some offers and thats it... heck every single developer could just quit the studio and with what is tensen left? no point in buying a studio with no IP you dont own the developers

IRetrouk1428d ago

I already agreed that the price was high, still don't take away that they could have been used, and be useful to either ms or sony

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Xbox Cloud Gaming PC Preview/Hands on Impressions (BETA) - CG

Microsoft recently released their Xbox Cloud Gaming PC Beta which allows users the opportunity to stream Xbox games to their Windows 10 PCs or laptops. This follows on from being able to use the cloud gaming on mobile devices which works very well but is limited to the size of your screen. Having the option to play Xbox games with a larger display has its obvious benefits.

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Crackdown 3 8K 60 FPS - Possible at Low-Medium Settings with an RTX 3090

CG writes: Nvidia’s claims that the RTX 3090 can render games in 8K at 60 FPS, ring true for us in this video. We put the game Crackdown 3 through its paces with some interesting results.

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bunt-custardly1705d ago

If you've ever super-sampled anything you would know why it can make things look better.

bouzebbal1704d ago

Let's talk about powahhhh of da clawwdd for a second 🤣did they give up with this thing?

bunt-custardly1705d ago

Oh right, I didn't get the joke sorry, it just clicked. Hmm, is Crackdown 3 really that bad/universally hated especially as it's on gamepass?

SullysCigar1705d ago

My attempt at humour could have been clearer, in hindsight..!

Yeah, sadly Crackdown 3 had been hyped so hard and so long by Microsoft, that when it launched as a mediocre game, it got panned. It was mainly the broken promises about the power of the cloud I think that did it. This was the 'cloud power' poster child for years and it all amounted to nothing, which is a real shame, because if they'd realised their initial vision it could have been special.

bunt-custardly1705d ago

I do remember the original vision where entire buildings could be demolished but wasn't that feature relegated to the multiplayer mode? For me, Crackdown 3 comes across quite generic. I suppose if it had the full destruction in the story mode that would have been bad-ass. If Red Faction Guerrilla can do it why not CD?

FanboySpotter1704d ago

Crackdown 3 was made for crackdown fans. Hated by non crackdown fans. Enjoyed by crackdown fans.

MadLad1704d ago

I played it on PC for a little while via gamepass. It's not nearly as terrible as people would try to make it out to be, but it's the definition of a "meh" game.
There's fun to be had if you're bored.

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andy851705d ago

It's good it's possible but who would pick this over 4K60 on ultra? It would look far better

IanTH1704d ago

100%. This is obviously just showing what can be done with the current highest end hardware, rather than what should be. And if you're splashing out for an RTX 3090 over a 3080 for gaming (small performance delta if not using that huge buffer for productivity), then I guess you'll also consider splashing out for an 8k screen. And, I mean, you'll want to be able to do *something* with it lol.

outsider16241704d ago

Let's be honest here, even with extra high settings at 8k 120fps... it'll still look like crap. Sorry.

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