If Xbox One Doesn't Gain Ground On PS4 This Fall, It Never Will

We’ve still got another month before the annual software slugfest begins in earnest this fall, but already it’s shaping up to be a very significant season for this console generation. In fact, from now until the end of 2015 is the Xbox One’s best chance to gain ground on the PS4 that we’ve seen to date. It may be the best chance it ever has.

[TheGreatGamer]

With the Xbox's line-up of heavy hitters this fall combined with a comparatively weaker line-up for ps4, Xbox should be able to gain some serious ground this fall but while we all know it won't catch up to ps4's worldwide sales, NA is certainly a possibility (sometime in the future)

[SpaceRanger]

Weak line up? So none of the games that have come out through the year count or aren't available during the holidays? If anything most of those games will be discounted or bundled which will attract people to buy it just as much as they'll be attracted to by the Xbox one.

I think the Xbox One will sell. But nowhere near what's needed to "gain any ground". Why? Because the PS4 is still available. It's not like it just disappears during the holidays while MS over saturates the console market by blowing it's load in games. The goal posts will be moved once again this holiday...

[morganfell]

The biggest two titles this year, though multiplatform, are locked to Sony for marketing. One of those two titles is also tied to the biggest movie of the year and will be the top selling theme this Christmas.

[star_lancer]

"So none of the games that have come out through the year count or aren't available during the holidays?"

"MS over saturates the console market by blowing it's load in games"

Talk about moving the goalposts. All I hear is how MS puts out all of it's big games at the end of the year, and nothing during the first half. Well, can't a person buy Halo 5 on launch day, then wait until January, February or March to buy Forza & Tomb Raider? Won't MS's holiday games also still be available next year?

@Morgan - those games will be available day one on Xbox One, unless of course you think Sony is going to try to fool people into believing that Star Wars & COD are PS4 exclusives. After all, that's what MS was accused of doing last generation.

[n4rc]

Love how you guys flip flop.. And always talk about moving goal posts when doing exactly that.

So ps4s games should carry them through the holidays (I agree BTW) but ms focuses on holidays and the same people pretend those games stop existing a few months later..

[nitus10]

The interesting thing in bringing out games throughout year is that you get new games sales at premium prices when the game is released. When the holiday season comes around those now older games can be discounted and/or used in bundles to sell consoles which in turn maximises profits.

Bring out new releases during the holiday season and there is a very good chance the developer will not maximise profits and if used as part of a bundle I hope the console vendor provides compensation.

Admittedly after the holiday season the game will still be available but now it would be classified as an older game.

[showtimefolks]

the gamer

brother Sony is playing the Microsoft game basically. get huge 3rd party games aligned with your console than advertise the heck out of them

when advertisements play on TV this fall for mgs 5, call of duty, destiny taken king and star wars at the end all of them will have PS4 logo. this may not make a difference to us gamers but it makes a huge difference to casuals and parents. most casuals buy what they see on TV. and the word exclusive content or early dlc means more to them than us

batman ps4 bundle did really well
mgs 5 ps4 bundle will do very well too

Sony is doing a destiny taken king bundle which should move some consoles

Sony will lost probably do a star wars bundle and it will do gangbusters. I believe after fallout that star wars will be the biggest launch of fall 2015. yes more than halo 5, tomb raider, mgs 5, destiny taken king etc,

Sony could also do a call of duty bundle

yes these are too many bundles but these will help move hardware along with software. Sony expects to sell 11 million ps4's in next 9 months to get to 36.3 million plus by March 31st 2016. so they must have a plan right

halo is a huge ip but did you know it peaked with halo 3? right now Xbox one install base is over 13 million so how much could halo 5 sell? 6 to 9 million?

forza has never been a huge seller or system seller

this next one will be very interesting to see

tomb raider vs uncharted collection. I would seriously won't be surprised if uncharted collection actually sells neck and neck with tomb raider

plus Sony had all those elusive marketing deals. I can see Sony selling neck and neck in North America and outselling for sure world wide

[WellyUK]

Yep it's just flipped around this time where it's the PS4 logo on every advert rather than the xbox 360 logo on every advert last gen. It makes a big difference as people who don't look into stuff just see the adverts. Sony this year are also just focusing on having great bundles which is what MS were doing last gen and aligning themselves with big third party titles this gen which was what MS were doing last gen as well. Makes a big difference in sales.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@The Great Gamer- When did the fall ever determine a gamers WHOLE YEAR? The reality is, gamers game all year, are you not gaming right now?

MS has always had heavy hitters in fall, this is nothing new, Heavy Rain and God OF War III came out in spring 2010, God OF War Ascension came out in spring, The Last Of Us came out in summer and many, many more. Who "wins" fall matters not, who has the most exclusives OVER ALL sorta does.

MS has done the fall thing all of last gen with its big releases ala Halo.

Did the fall win them that gen?

So....why would just the fall win them this gen? Do gamers just stop gaming until 3 months out of the year?

I'm sorry but one can't just pant a picture of the WHOLE YEAR with 3 months because MS wants to release all their games in 3 months.

Sony sold more then MS last gen releasing titles all year, they are selling the best this gen releasing titles all year..

How do you gain ground on a console by not releasing titles most of the year? I mean...where did Sony state they are not making games? lol

[mrbojingles]

If Sony cuts PS4 price at Paris Games Week to $299, say good bye. Just bought an XB1 again and I'm looking forward to the new UI, but if Sony acts like PS2-era Sony then Xbox doesn't stand a chance in the US in terms of hardware sales.

[lelo2play]

If Sony cuts the price of the PS4, Microsoft will cut the price of the X1... and Sony knows that.

If Microsoft cuts the price of the X1, Sony will cut the price of the PS4... and Microsoft knows that.

I don't think we'll see any price cut this holiday season.

[twiggytree12]

"If Microsoft cuts the price of the X1, Sony will cut the price of the PS4... and Microsoft knows that."

I disagree.
Microsoft has cut the price, yet sony hasn't.

[theFAYEsorceress]

ms has already cut the price and sony hasn't... if they cut the price on the ps4, sales will increase that much more.

[Christopher]

Microsoft really can't cut the price more than they have. They've had some ridiculous bundles where they were obviously either breaking even or losing money in the long run and relying on making that money back on potential game sales in the future with that sale.

MS isn't in a position to just keep cutting price. They're already scraping the bottom of the barrel for the deals they can make. We'll see similar at Christmas time, but they will not be reducing the price I do not think.

[22CobraKing]

@lelo2play
Microsoft can't cut the price again, with another price cut they will be selling at a loss. Maybe cut price for when a slim Xbox comes out. Congrats Sony.

[star_lancer]

@those above who don't know math:

MS has NOT cut the price yet. They took a $500 console, unbundled a $150 accessory, and now sells it for $350. Those of us who know math can see it's not a price cut.

A price cut is when you get the SAME PACKAGE for a lower price. The Xbox One with Kinect launched at $499. It's STILL $499. The Xbox One without Kinect launched at $349. It's STILL $349.

@christopher - " They're already scraping the bottom of the barrel for the deals they can make"

What a ridiculous comment. Sony has had much bigger bundle offers than MS. How about giving away "Batman Arkham Knight" on day one? Name an MS bundle as big as that one.

[lelo2play]

Well, in Europe, Microsoft hasn't cut the price of the X1. Officially X1 is still 400€. Officially X1 with Kinect is still 500€... and officially Sony's PS4 is still 400€.

Yes, we can get a X1/game bundle for 400€, but we also can get a PS4/game bundle for 400€... if we look hard enough we can even get both consoles below the official 400€.

BTW, PS4 and X1 are almost 2 years old, so those consoles should be 300€ by now.

[LamerTamer]

@star_lancer

When they removed Kinect the price was $399 not $349. They then CUT the price to $349 with a bunch of free games for the holidays then briefly raised it back to $399 after the holidays. When they did sales tanked so they brought it permanently to $349.

[lemoncake]

The GDDR5 inside the ps4 is still very expensive, don't expect a cut anytime soon.

[PSN_ZeroOnyx]

Don't be so sure about that. Individually expensive, but Sony is buying in bulk which brings the price down. The PS4 is in very high demand which will give Sony leverage to get even lower prices on larger orders.

[Christopher]

$299 sounds unreasonable. Maybe a $50 cut, but I'm not sure they can do a $299. Sony is still relying solely on the profit of their gaming division to improve it. They can't afford to not make as much profit as possible.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Game sales, not console profits.

[Christopher]

"Game sales, not console profits."

You do realize that is already taken into account with the current price of the console, right?

[joeorc]

Not quite correct, while playstation is a big section in of itself its not even in the top three for Sony!

You do know that PlayStation is ranked only the 5th largest of its profit generating subsidies that Sony has that Sony has..Soon to be most likely the 6th due to the the now Worlds smallest TV tuner chip Soc that Sony is selling to other companies that make smartphones just like their camera cmos sensor's!

So no, Sony is not just relying on playstation, as a matter of fact Playstation is a held Subsidiary wholly owned, but also that its stock is not a public buy in even if you buy stock into the parent company of Sony, for one its a LLC so it operations are pretty self contained, that's why is not a part of a divisional section of Sony like Microsoft's Xbox is for Microsoft. They are not structured the same for each of the company's held assets.

For.instance SCEj has subsidiaries under it that are not directly controlled by the parent, its held it its a subsidiary of the LLC not the parent Company. That's why you cannot swoop in and just buy out the PlayStation section of Sony , it's also why Sony computer entertainment does not have tons of funds from Sony at its beck n call also, why do you think it take longer to get things done over at Sony computer entertainment vs with Microsoft.

SCEA,SCEE etc are run as subsidiaries not as a divisions of Sony.

Look at the corporate structure of each companies corpus.

I hope that helps @christopher again how So?
That does not take away from the fact Sonybhas invested already into further die shrinks, on top of that the PS4 since day 1 is @ profit , not just on a hardware level butbalso software level, so how much SCEJ can cut off the price we do not know, but what we do know is the SOC package is a 3D stacked TSV, which means they can most likely drop the price without bottoming out the profits.

There is a very good reason why Mark Cerney was given the chance and with Scott Rhode, and yoshida they made sure the problems of budget constraints was followed very closely, but on the same token having 1,2nd and 3rd party developers involved in the process made sure the system turned out the way it did.

Again, just because its ran as a subsidiary does not mean they do not have enough money to drive sales cuts when the system was already generating profit and die shrinks are already on the way!

[Christopher]

***SCEA,SCEE etc are run as subsidiaries not as a divisions of Sony.
***

You just proved my point exactly...

[Christopher]

The topic I made was about taking money from other divisions to fuel loss in the PS4 division.

***Again, just because its ran as a subsidiary does not mean they do not have enough money to drive sales cuts when the system was already generating profit and die shrinks are already on the way!***

My comment said specifically that loss in cost would take directly from the gaming division (which includes the subsidiaries). While attempting to put money to maintain their lead, improve software, improve network, and so on, all of these come out of profits in order to drive revenue and potentially more profits.

But, cutting profits on hardware only forces them to rely more on the profits of software and similar divisions. It makes zero sense to suddenly take a loss on hardware of that magnitude when it is unlikely that they are not already utilizing their overall division profits to increase more revenue stream as it is.

Edit: I'll gladly eat my own words if they do a price drop to $299 this Holiday rather than just doing game bundle deals or dropping it to $349 with a single game.

[Cupid_Viper_3]

Umm... The Xbox One will NOT make up any grounds agaisnt the PS4 this fall. Sony has already sold 7 million PS4s so far this year, compare to 2.5 million XBox Ones (approximate numbers). Meaning that Sony has already sold more PS4s than Microsoft will Sell XBox Ones this year, assuming Microsoft can sell 4.5 million XBox Ones between now and December 31st.

Secondly, I'm confident that bat sony will give the PS4 an official price drop of $50, and ummm...there may be shortages of PS4s this holiday season.

[KiwiViper85]

How many people do you think are waiting for the PS4 to drop $50?

[Christopher]

People don't know what they want until marketing tells them they want it.

[Relientk77]

The gap is only going to widen. No one is gonna catch up to the PS4 sales

[KiwiViper85]

I can't think of any more excuses why someone wouldn't get an Xbox One, apart from Brand Loyalty...

[GrubsterBeater]

There are many, many "excuses" as to why the majority of people choose PS4 over XBox One...

[etownone]

Best comment... Defines the console war

[Vegamyster]

Considering MS is supporting PC more than it has in the past and that I'm a primarily PC gaming I'd say it has to do with not knowing if MS will bring more exclusives to the PC later down the road, not really interested in buying a Xbox + Live only to find out H:MCC Halo 5 comes to the PC next year ect.

[star_lancer]

So, you'd rather spend $350+ on a PC because a few games MIGHT come to PC MONTHS or YEARS later, instead of spending $350 on an Xbox One and having the ability to play EVERY Xbox One game on DAY ONE?

[Vegamyster]

My computer does costs more than a console but performs betters as well, it doesn't struggle to do 1080p 60 fps with the settings turned up let alone 900p 20-30 fps in a game like The Witcher 3.

There is also my big backlog of games I'm going through on Steam that's not available on current consoles, the only thing the Xone would do for me is play exclusives which atm isn't a whole lot that interest me, i have zero issues saving $350 + $60 for Live per year because i have many games to play and choose from right now.

[Christopher]

Or because they don't want to spend $350 on a console just for one game...

I hope you don't think that everyone loves all 1st party IPs on either console...

[SuperStatePro]

Yeah, see that's the thing and the biggest negative for the X1. It has only one game. Wait, what?

[Christopher]

@SuperStatePro: Did you just ignore the second sentence entirely? Or do you think that just because it has more games we should buy it even if we have no interest in them?

[star_lancer]

@christopher

Actually, you're trying to ignore your first sentence. You responded to a comment that said "I can't think of any more excuses why someone wouldn't get an Xbox One, apart from Brand Loyalty" by saying "Or because they don't want to spend $350 on a console just for one game".

Well, the Xbox One is the only new console that is $349, so it's obvious what you're talking about. You are clearly implying that the Xbox One has just one game worth buying. Your poor attempt to appear unbiased by adding the second sentence doesn't fool anyone.

This comment, combined with the "MS is scraping the bottom of the barrel" nonsense that I called you out on above, clearly shows where your loyalties lie. I know N4G is a Sony lovers haven, and you are clearly part of that group, but as an administrator, you should really think twice before posting such flamebait comments.

[gangsta_red]

Yea, that actually made little to no sense and the second sentence just seemed like an attempt to cover up because it has no relation to the first point you were trying to make.

Even if everyone doesn't love all 1st party IP's on either console, both consoles at least has one or two games that look appealing enough to eventually pick up that console in the future.

[DragonDDark]

No JRPGs

[vanity29]

The real answer right here. Even if they make some, itll flop like in the past. Which is sad but the majority of xbox gamers arent in to jrpgs.

[WellyUK]

JRPG's don't interest everyone... Personally think most Japanese games are complete crap.

Here come the disagrees.

[DragonDDark]

@vanity29
Scalebound is by japanese devs...
The question was why xbox doesn't interest everyone... some would answer that it doesn't have JRPGs...

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I don't know. Money? Time? Not feeling necessary to own all consoles just to please some underlined internet best of all worlds gamer constituency?

[LamerTamer]

My TV is 1080p native not 900p. Many x1 games still run at only 900p with lowered graphics fidelity such as lighting, foliage, etc. due to it's weaker GPU.

I prefer the better looking multiplatform games. That is one excuse.

[Riddler89]

Who gives a fuck... You can't tell the difference between the two... And the gap is only closing with new sdks and direct x... So you will have your 1080 resolution since it means so much to you.. Can't wait to next gen when the xbox hardware is better to see your guys exxcuses then... If you think Microsoft wont make a beast of a console next gen with the backlash there getting this gen then you all are crazy

[Lucreto]

A price cut with a COD bundle or a Star Wars bundle would give Sony momentum.

The US might still be a battleground but Sony has Europe on lockdown.

[Haru]

Not only europe but asia too along with the rest of the world, Only place Microsoft has a chance to catch up is USA outside USA xbox is dead

[KiwiViper85]

Saying Xbox is dead is a bit over dramatic isn't it?

[TheGreatGamer]

Xbox is very much alive

[Sweep14]

Agreed: A 350$ star wars bundle with an additional bundled game (TLOU or the order or gow remastered) should slaughter whatever X1 bundle MS come with.

[StrayaKNT]

Why would we care if it sells alot or not lol it's the place to go to for games this fall and were gamers not shareholders.

[Gazondaily]

"and were gamers not shareholders."

Ha! I knew a fair few that are definitely more shareholders than gamers on here. You can see them being thr first to pop up in every single sales article.

Anyway, the Xbox lineup this year is mad. Next year its so diverse so I want to hear what excuse people come out with. No doubt they'll come up with something.

[thecowsaysmoo]

Xbox one is still doing well, but PS4 is way too popular (especially small countries in Europe). If xbox one outsells the xbox 360, that is a success in my opinion.

[NeverHeavyMan]

I have a revelation: outside of, perhaps the US and UK, it never will. At this point, lets just accept that and look for other things to discuss.

[DanielGearSolid]

They've got Battlefront Mgsv and COD marketing. Xbox isn't gaining anything serious

We've seen what these bundles do for Sony (Destiny and Batman)

[PistolsAtDawn]

If it doesn't it only proves that it has nothing to do with quality and just plain fanboy stubborness.

[Haru]

Or maybe.. you know.. different people have different opinions? Is it that hard to accept that not everyone is like you and each person is diferent, how about you just admit that Playstation is just a better platform than xbox and get over it?

[Letthewookiewin]

Come on Pistols buy a PS4 you know you want to....

[PistolsAtDawn]

I've had one since 2013

[LamerTamer]

Games running at 1080p rather than 900p with better lighting, more foliage etc are better quality graphics.

Maybe the reverse is true? Why play low res versions with downgraded graphics if you don't have to? Fanboy stubbornness? Oh I know that wonderful X1 UI, because we play UIs and updates not games.

[PistolsAtDawn]

"Games running at 1080p rather than 900p with better lighting, more foliage etc are better quality graphics."

IF that were true, but it's not, SOMETIMES PS4 has a higher native res, but it's not actually the norm, and IF it happens it's almost never noticeable (I've done the tests myself at home). Pretending like that is a deal-breaker this gen is just fanboy garbage really. This gen has the least actual graphical differences (not on paper...in perception).

HOWEVER, if YOU want to compare this gen's graphical differences against's UI abilities...then YES, UI abilities are more important. Being able to do more with your console is FAR more important than a graphical difference that you have to be told exists...or worse, actually makes the game run worse (i.e. Witcher 3).

More to the point it's not JUST graphics, there's also controllers, networks, and games and to MANY including myself (esp among people that own both consoles) X1 is doing better in all those categories as well.

THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT...the fear seems to have gotten a hold of tons of people here. I NEVER EVER EVER EVER said that you shouldn't get a PS4 (I have one, and have every gen, that'd be stupid for me to say) or anything even about PS4 ...I just said if you DON'T get an X1 it's your loss and stupid to hold on to a dumb bias...then everyone jumped on it from a fanboy war perspective...insecure much?

[PistolsAtDawn]

Odd that you're picking a fight based on graphics today....after X1 just showed more of Quantum Break, TR, and Crackdown 3....probably the next Gen game that has shown the most advanced jump in graphics....and its cloud based.

More importantly games like Scalebound and Fallout 4 that look great but not THE best ...show that graphics only do so much....unless its like crackdown that also affects gameplay

[LamerTamer]

@PistolsAtDawn

"YES, UI abilities are more important"

To YOU maybe but since I and many others spend 99.999% of the time playing the GAME and a few seconds in the UI just to start the game the UI is mostly meaningless as long as it works. Having better graphics in the main reason for using the thing in the first place makes more sense.

"more important than a graphical difference that you have to be told exists"

Again maybe YOU have to be told but I can clearly see the difference. I too have done tests. It is not just the resolution difference, upscaling non-native resolutions kills PQ with filters and other artifacts that reduce sharpness and distort distant object detail etc. If you don't notice good for you but many DO notice.

Controllers? preference. Personally I have used both and I have no issues with either controller. I am used to the xbox style as I was a big 360 gamer last gen but I have no problem with the PS4 one and got comfortable with it easily.

Networks? Live is probably more stable but unless you are a big online gamer the differences are nil. Many don't do online MP so it doesn't matter to them at all.

"Crackdown 3....probably the next Gen game that has shown the most advanced jump in graphics....and its cloud based."

Cloud based. Well it had to be to supplement the xbones weaker GPU. Online required is not an advantage but a negative to me. It is now a "nice" way to sneak DRM in on you. Remember when online-only "deal with it" was a bad thing, now it is good? Not everyone is always online or has the fastest connection. What happens to the game when online support is eventually pulled?

Fear? Of what? I have actually had an xbone since launch, buying it was a mistake and I just don't use it other than a few exclusives for the mentioned reasons.

[Jls1]

I honestly dont see how the X1 can catch up, I mean not even one major exclusive ps4 game has come out yet and its still selling like this.

[SuperStatePro]

Oh. Killzone doesn't count as a major ps4 exclusive? Little Big Planet? No? Infamous? No?

[kraenk12]

None of those are real must play system sellers.

[TwoForce]

Oh my god ! Stop with this article.

[nitus10]

@TwoForce
>> Oh my god ! Stop with this article.

Why? I am enjoying the popcorn :-)

[PSIN4MANT]

This holiday season, ps4 will finally kick off a price drop, that combined with a few bundles and a Star Wars themed PS4, sales will skyrocket..

I don't think its gonna happen.

[Destiny1080]

with Microsoft winning one week during e3 in one region, that little spark of hope could lead to a blazing fire

[Chaos-Dad]

Global - November 2014:
PS4 -> 2,862,237
XOne -> 2,468,065
Global - December 2014:
PS4 -> 3,204,402
XOne -> 2,284,298

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[Rookie_Monster]

Don't care...lol. heck, my orginal xbox is awesome too when it sold like 1/10 of what the PS2 did and does it hurt xbox fans back then with the awesome games like Halo, KOTOR, Ninja Gaiden, Dead or ALIVE 3, Shenmue II, mech Assault and have an awesome online system to play on with MS first system?

Nope. Same will happen with XB1 with Xbox owners. As a matter of fact, I kind of liking MS in second place as we get a new attitude pertaining to catering to us owners like giving us awesome exclusives, BC, more value added to Live gold..etc.

I say keep doing what you are doing and gamers like us will reward you in the end. Just purchased RARE Replay today..awesome value. :)

[Christopher]

Not knocking your love of a good console, but it does matter as an element of business. Not meeting certain requirements means less potential going forward and losing out certain things that helps to maintain a specific market share.

Sales are silly numbers, but they do matter to the business. Just look how Metacritic scores matter to whether or not developers can make a sequel, get bonuses, and whatnot. That's the world we live in when it comes to sales and scores.

[Rookie_Monster]

Don't get the ananlogy. If PS4 continue to sell at a fast pace and MS is doing great (which it is as it is still ahead of last gen duo of X360 and PS3 at the same 20 months mark) as well but Sony just sell more, how does that take away from the success of the XB1?

Toyota sell more cars than Honda but both had record setting year for sales, does that mean Honda is a failure if it didn't outsell it's rival?

[Christopher]

@Rookie_Monster: Where did I say anything about anything being a failure? I was denoting the "you not caring about sales numbers or if it's #2 or not" doesn't change the fact that "sales" and "numbers" serve a purpose in the business and could directly affect what you and others get on your console or even what happens with the next console in line.

[Petebloodyonion]

Does it matter if it Catch up or not?
The wii won the past generation in term of consoles sold. Did this affect the pleasure you had with the Ps3 or 360?

The only thing that matters is that the Xbox one is properly supported and enjoyed by the userbase.

Heck the NeoGeo was never a system seller but it still known up to this day as a great system with tons of great games.

[arbitor365]

Both the PS4 and xbox one sell like hotcakes every holiday season, but the PS4 always wins on a global scale. If the xbox one does sell more, it wont be by much, and it will go back down as soon as next year kicks off

[etownone]

Ms is learning a hard lesson this gen.

First impressions make all the difference sometimes in life.

Imagine if Ms announced Xb1 without Kinect required, backward compatibility, and at $350.

And not the cocky, always on, no bc, Kinect mandatory, and overpriced xb1 we first saw.

[22CobraKing]

I still remember that, every Xbox fan was so pissed off with Microsofts desicions.

[Magnes]

You never get a second chance to make a first impression.

[PhoenixUp]

First impressions aren't everything.

PS3 had a very controversial E3 2006, but its been selling at a faster rate since day 1.

Wii had a very successful E3 2006, but sales took a drastic nosedive since 2011.

Vita had a very great showing at E3 2011, but its sales after it launched have never been spectacular.

[theFAYEsorceress]

i don't know why everyone is getting so worked up over this still. it's actually good that ms is in second place this gen. you can bet your ass they wouldn't have bothered improving the brand as much as they did if they were still in first. same went with the ps3 when it struggled early on last gen. competition forces improvement. you can argue over which console is better and whatnot, but they need each other in order to progress.

[etownone]

That's is so true

[TheKingslayer]

Sony's position with the PS4 can't be matched or beat in a single season. I don't think that's Microsoft's goal with the Xbox One. Xbox One is now positioned well past it's perception woes from launch now to offer gamers a full console that is showing that it is progressive in every aspect going into holiday 2015.

The most Microsoft can hope to do is convert those on the sideline away from the narrative that the Xbox One is not a platform to purchase. There is still a considerable way to go in migrating gamers from the last generation over to both new gen consoles.

The PS4 is a great console with some really great indie titles. Sure they can't proclaim that exclusives are the end all be all for a console to be special. They are showing that market leadership is about making the most of your position. So PS4 gamers can lean on third party deals much like the Xbox 360 did last gen. It's a safe strategy. The Stars Wars Battle Front bundle is fantastic, and worth the price of admission.

I think it was smart for Sony to skip Gamescom, and focus on Paris Games Week. They will be the topic of discussion going into the new conference season of 2016. They can show glimpses into new titles, reinforce their 2016 offerings, and showcase the PS4 without expectations. The Xbox One may close the gap sales wise in the US, but history is on Sony's side as far as World Wide overall market value is concerned. So both are looking like 2016 will be good for them, but the PS4 will still be the leader.

[PhoenixUp]

PS4 hasn't even had a price cut and its still the highest selling gaming platform. There OS nothing that Microsoft can do that will change that. X1 will always be in 2nd place

[Antwan3k]

As long as the Xbox One continues to improve it's feature sets and continues to provide compelling gaming content, I don't care about sales..

I don't play sales..

I play games, I use services, and I utilize features.. and from my personal standpoint, heading into this holiday season,the Xbox One is superior to the PS4 on all those fronts..

[CantBeStopped]

Yeah I didn't play sales either last gen when we got to CONSTATNLY hear bout how much better 360 was selling compared to PS3.

[Antwan3k]

Well, be the better person and don't be a hypocrite..

I didn't care about sales last gen and I don't care about sales this gen..

[GNCFLYER]

Submitted 1 hour ago, 72 comments.

That escalated quickly.

[pyroxxx]

Not going to happen,..
No year (and year and a half) head start ,.. Consoles don't have 70 percent braking rate ( failure rate) as xbox 360,.. and they are not Sony with 4 times more first party studios,..(and even they had a struggle closing even 8-9 million in 8 years) There is no way in hell they can catch up

[CantBeStopped]

A lot of tears in here, a lot of salty tears.

[D-riders]

So funny how last gen people would be so quick to promote the 360 over the ps3 and this gen people say. stop worrying about sales,enjoy your console. that to me is called someone being butthurt there system sucks. Im not worried about sales . well you should be currently xbox 1 ison pace to sell about 25 million consoles in 4 years on the market. that pretty much means the end of xbox. that would suggest that in three generations the xbox wouldn't have sold what the ps2 sold. If your MS at that point you quit. people can say what they want but why do you think MS is doing so much to get sales up cause if they dont hit 50 million consoles in 5 years xbox its gone

[Antwan3k]

More Sales =/= Better Product..

hey Apple fans, did you realize that Android holds over 80% of the worldwide smartphone market?.. I guess that means Apple should just close it's doors. It's over. You iSheep should just stop enjoying your iPhones because it has sold less than Android..

oh, wait..

The iPhone is still a quality product, Apple is still a successful company, and people are enjoying their purchases..

You see the trend here?.. the PS4 could end up outselling the Xbox One 4:1 this gen and it doesn't matter.. As long as Microsoft continues to make the Xbox One a quality product, the company is still successful (Xbox One is still outpacing the successful Xbox 360 in terms of sales), and people are enjoying their purchases, that's all that matters..

But you guys go ahead and keep playing your sales.. Sony is just sitting back in cruise control, not providing a single first-party flagship title for this holiday season, not addressing gamers' PSN issues/concerns, and continuing to use smoke and mirrors like a Shenmue III kickstarter in order to mask their current lack of effort..

As an Xbox One owner, I'm glad Microsoft is in "2nd place".. that means, they're hungry, determined, and eager to compete.. Meanwhile, Sony is on the road to arrogance again, thanks largely in part, to their current sales success.. .. .

[Trekster_Gamer]

I could care less about the Sales figures. It doesn't affect the Incredible library of games already out, and those on the horizon.

Best, most varied selection of games. Xbox One, not awaiting greatness, it has already achieved it!

[Rockstar]

XBOX ONE GOOD!
PLAYSTATION 4 GOOD!
WII U GOOD!

FANBOYS BAD!

HULK SMASH FANBOYS!