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Crackdown 3 To Have Revolutionary Multiplayer With 100% Destruction Thanks To Cloud Tech

Cloud tech strikes back thanks to Crackdown 3, the Xbox One exclusive demonstrated today at Gamescom 2015.

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kaiserfranz3612d ago

Animations can definitely be improved, but I love physics so can't wait for it!

Hope it'll be more fun than GTA Online.

Abash3612d ago

Definitely the best game MS showed at the conference, will be getting Crackdown 3

Gazondaily3612d ago

Man those physics are mad. Looks like the power of the cloud wasn't some mythical creature afterall :D

VERY excited for this

Wingsfan243612d ago

Those animations are pretty inline with what the original was like. Somehow adds to the style of the game I guess. But yea, still have plenty of time to update some stuff.

donthate3612d ago (Edited 3612d ago )

It is obvious cloud computation is possible and there are some technical issues that can be overcome.

I'm glad somebody is pushing the right way to use cloud in gaming.

Really looking forward to this and justice at any cost!

AngelicIceDiamond3612d ago (Edited 3612d ago )

Looks like the cloud power is coming as promised with the start of Crackdown. I guess you gotta make a game that would be based around tech, where it makes sense.

And Crackdown is the perfect candidate for it.

I also wanna add the presentation was EXACTLY how I imagined the destruction in Crackdown. Running out of exploding building and stuff just getting demolished.

Glad Crackdown lived up to the tech demo from last year.

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ABizzel13612d ago

It seems like a fun game and more in line with the first (which was good). It looks a ways off (maybe holiday 2016), as for the destruction it's cool to see buildings being blown up, but it seems like a open world Boom Blox shooter using the power of the XBO.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

I see the 20x power of the cloud is back. Well it good for physics and destruction simulation.

A good showing for Crackdown.

miyamoto3612d ago (Edited 3612d ago )

Not too rain on tge parade.
Didn't Uncharted 2 benefited from the power of the cloud back in 2009 in terms of graphics and on the fly game adjustments and improvements.

But did Sony broadcast it like MS does now?

No.

And that is for good reason.

I think this cloud help thing further sends a message that the Xbox One hardware itself is not sufficient and have to rely so much on the " must be always connected online" debacle that severely damaged its reputation at the reveal?

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whothedog3611d ago (Edited 3611d ago )

wait, what did the cloud help with that the system couldn't already handle? Red Faction, same destruction, last gen.

Looks like a typical game to me, I thought the purpose of the cloud was so it could free up the system to handle more as in better graphics ect.

and I am not knocking this game at all. Just knocking the cloud a bit for this scenario , but not much either! its nice to see new tech for video games.

Gazondaily3611d ago

@miyamoto

Lmao what?! Uncharted 2 used cloud for on the fly graphical and other adjustments??

I don't even...

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JorboTron3611d ago

As far as animations go it will get better. They showed pre alpha footage

ChronoJoe3611d ago

I think it's really odd that a lot of people here appear suddenly convinced in the 'power of the cloud'.

If the cloud was doing all of the work, why do you think the games textures are low resolution? lighting looks pretty poor too, and the city itself is very barren in this demo.

This thing uses server side physics calculations (it's nothing new, in fact it's what a lot of MMOs use, but not to any great effect) but crucially it's not a a miracle worker, and has its own set of limitations.

a) it means physics simulation is constrained by netcode. While everything in this video seems to respond instantaneously to impact etc, expect latency to be a factor when the client has to feedback between a server before an objects physical response (destruction) is visualized on your client in a real network.

b) Surely it means that this experience is always online? That's always a shame to see.

c) the whole '20 times the power of the X1' line is mostly nonsense. In terms of its capacity for dynamic physics calculation perhaps this is the case, but suggesting it enhances it by 20 times infers a broad performance enhancement. In contrast, everything shown here has to be rendered and lit in real time, on the client (XBOX1) and the cloud doesn't provide any enhancements to that, hence the flat textures, last-gen lighting and rather derelict city.

Obviously it does have its advantages too, these above are limitations, the sheer quantity of physics calculations that can be made at any one instance is the merit. However we will have to see how that pans out outside of an artificial network.

nveenio3611d ago

Would be more impressive with higher fidelity graphics. Will have to wait for post-alpha footage.

GameNameFame3611d ago (Edited 3611d ago )

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Youtubed Red Faction. As video shows, yea. It is pretty similar, but in current gen. Instead of it being last gen.

Forza and Titanfall used power of cloud. Except those things are completely doable without cloud too.

@ChronoJoe

Exactly...Cloud literally brings nothing new to the table from technical limitation point.

AI from Cloud? Check. Already done. MMOs all have server ran AI.

Customized Map from Cloud? Check. Bloodborne does server made custom maps.

It still is very limited server tech we know of. Cloud can only do exactly the same as good old server. Not better, just same.

ShinMaster3611d ago (Edited 3611d ago )

Seems like they definitely sacrificed animations for better physics (and then called it CloudTech™ ).

Major_Glitch3611d ago

Teh cloud power? Again?! But people aren't crazy enough to fall for the same bs buzz words are they? *reads above comments*....oh lord. Smh.

OT: This is a pre-alpha demo. Nothing more. Nothing less. And while it does indeed look excellent, I wouldn't be so quick to make this demo the poster-boy for "cloud tech".

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joab7773612d ago

Never thought this may be the game I buy an xbone for, but it might. There's no other mp out there like this, an open world fully destructible mp...what?!!

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grumpygamr3611d ago

It looks pretty dang purty and pretty dang fun.

GameNameFame3611d ago

Red faction was like that last gen. Everything fully destructible.

Crackdown has bigger scale for being on this gen, but graphic suffers quite a bit.

showtimefolks3612d ago (Edited 3612d ago )

I am a Playstation fan but have played the last 2 crackdown games. first one had potential nit basically sold because of halo 3 beta and 2nd one was just average at best

I always felt like this was a ip Microsoft should push hard and give it the proper AAA treatment. I am very excited aND even though I really don't have the time, I will get an Xbox one to play this for sure

Phil spencer is delivering right in front of our eyes. he is a gamer who owns all consoles and is doing the right thing. it shows if you actually put gamers at running a gaming console than good things will come out of it

and these praises are all coming from a die hard Playstation gamer.

is this destruction available offline during single player?

TheCommentator3612d ago

Sadly, the presentation seemed to suggest the destruction is for multiplayer only. I'd think it would be hard to deliver 20 consoles worth of extra power to every single Crackdown owner playing SP at this point.

showtimefolks3612d ago

that's the sad thing man now a days everything so so eager to be online yet there are millions of us single player gamers

also its frustrating to come out of a conference and have more questions than answers. and that goes for everyone not just ms

for once it would be nice if we get all the major questions answered. if crackdown 3 destruction is online only than I am really disappointed

KiwiViper853612d ago

Why would you want to be offline?

BoriboyShoGUN3611d ago

"20 consoles of extra power"???? What??? I feel for you if you really believe this statement.

n4rc3611d ago

And you don't think azure has just a wee bit more then 20 x1s? They could offer 2million times the power

Computational power... Stop getting so weighed down by this console war crap.. Doesn't mean GPU or resolution or anything else..

BoriboyShoGUN3610d ago

All these games that barely function that have been released this gen. I'm just amazed that people really believe they are going to see some monster improvement. So your connection is going to do chat, multiplayer, and 20 times "computation power" or whatever in the hell that means. Common sense tells you that's a stretch at best!
I'll just leave it at good luck!

n4rc3610d ago

umm.. yes.. thats exactly it

you seem to confuse computing power with internet bandwidth. they have nothing to do with each other

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Brotard3612d ago

Now I want to be blown away by battlefield 6.... or Bad Company 3!!!!! Supposedly out next year according to EA's earning reports

franwex3612d ago

YES!! I was thinking the same :D

frostypants3612d ago

Hope put the weapon models back to where they were prior to BF4. BF4 has never quite felt like a BF game to me.

showtimefolks3612d ago

oh please be bad company 3 and be more like the original bad company store wise. the story was quite funny

FlexLuger3611d ago

"Now I want to be blown away by battlefield 6.... or Bad Company 3!!!!! Supposedly out next year according to EA's earning reports"

Would be nice if they used azure for the PC and xbox versions. Dedicated servers and cloud powered destruction would be cool. and after seeing what I seen with crackdown and a whole city getting leveled, I think a smaller BF sized map as opposed to a huge open world would be easy to pull off. Goes without saying that DICE will be using DX12, I think.

_-EDMIX-_3611d ago

You mean BF5....?

But I'm very excited for a BF reveal next year!

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franwex3612d ago

I agree; I really enjoyed the first Crackdown! Microsoft is pulling all the stop and finally bringing out their franchises full force. It's more of the same; but better...kinda like Nintendo recently...hmm...

TheXgamerLive3612d ago

Looks insane AGREED:)

I'm feeling a whole new/different kind of excitement. Damn, thank's MS and Xbox One as the cloud is hella sweet.

Crackdown 3!!!!!

Black0ut3611d ago

OMFG this is so awesome. LOVED Crackdown 1 & 2! Epic!!!

jc123611d ago

holy chit! Now that is next-generation gaming!

SuperStatePro3611d ago

Impossible. Trolls said cloud tech was a lie!

warczar3611d ago (Edited 3611d ago )

Call me when this is real world and not an exercise.

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DiRtY3611d ago

I liked Crackdown, never played Crackdown 2... And never really planned to buy Crackdown 3, maybe when I find it cheap.

But after Gamescom, I can't wait for it.

callahan093611d ago

As an online experience, it looks pretty badass and I'm excited to try it even though I almost never play games online. This one might change my mind on online experiences! Just in case, though, I do hope it has a good offline/single-player mode. Can the cloud computations for destructibility still work in single-player (connected to Xbox Live still, but playing the solo mode)?

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TheGreatGamer3612d ago

20x more computing power with the cloud. Insane!

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Antwan3k3612d ago

@Godmars290 - "Still have yet to see it working in the wild. What the game will be like when internet isn't accessible"

Hopefully, Microsoft makes the obvious decision to make the game "online only".. Last time I checked, Destiny is doing just fine..

Volkama3612d ago (Edited 3612d ago )

Hopefully indeed. But the fact that they say "revolutionary multiplayer" and not "revolutionary destruction" or "gameplay" or something cover-all suggests to me that it only applies to multiplayer. That could imply that single player will cater for the offline crowd, and be far less cool for it.

I hope I'm wrong about that, but we'll see.

UnHoly_One3612d ago

Yes I'm sure it is just for the multiplayer or they would have said otherwise.

The thing that most people fail to think of, is that if it was for the single player as well, the whole city would be leveled to the ground before you made it halfway through the story. lol

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FlexLuger3612d ago

"20x more computing power with the cloud. Insane!"

Yup..the hype is REAL :). I think this puts an end to those 'powah of teh cloud' jibes. Even I was in the "wait and see " camp. But in all honesty I am glad that they have finally shown what they promised..and will deliver on that promise in 2016.

What does this mean for future XB1 games? How far will they push all of this? MS are the company with the resources and tech to take it there, thats for sure.

"I would gladly take a game that can't be played offline, if that means a 100% destructable city."

Speaking as somebody that plays quite a few MOBA, MMOS and MP FPS and racers, I agree with this statement, Volkhama. Some games are SP experiences some are meant to push boundries in online gameplay. crackdown is clearly the latter, now.

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Frisky3612d ago

Beautiful! I started expected a lot from Microsoft after their E3 conference. Their Gamescom briefing is just as good.

pelenow3612d ago

Wow looks better than I was expecting and it's still over a year away... Damn wish it 2016 already LOL

FlexLuger3612d ago

We got a lot of goodies to pass the time :). my download of rare replay is almost complete, gears of war:UE, later this month. Halo:MCC, titanfall,KI, elite, Ori, Smite and neverwinter are eating up my gaming time with a side serving of BF4. And we still got FM6, Halo 5 and TR incoming. so much to pass the time till QB, scalebound, crackdown, recore, gears 4, halo wars 2 and sea of theives show up.And we still have to make time for cuphead, project solus, ION, Below, inside and ashen amongst others.

and I dont know about you guys but im looking forward to teaming up with and kicking the asses of PC gamers on gigantic, and halo wars 2. What we need...is cross play on neverwinter too. and an ODST spin off with cross play between PC and xbox gamers. And make it more tactical like a ghost recon game.

But I must say...this xbox, is the best xbox so far. god only knows what they are gonna come with at next E3. in a year when many of these titles will launch.

isa_scout3612d ago

Don't you wish away the launch of Halo 5...lol In all seriousness though this game and so many others makes me salivate just thinking of 2016. And bringing back Halo Wars... Good job MS. I WENT COMPLETELY INSANE when that trailer said Creative Assembly. Owning both consoles is going to put me broke come 2016. I may need to rob a bank or find a loan shark that won't make me sleep with the fish....

Kingdomcome2473611d ago

Yeah, with the games that are set to release over the next year and a half on both consoles, it all but guarantees that I won't be able to put my future children through college lol.

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Tencent to buy Crackdown and Sackboy developer Sumo in $1.3bn deal

Tencent is set to buy Sumo Group in a deal worth $1.27bn (£919m), the companies have announced.

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Darkborn1436d ago

Tencent is really buying up everything. I'm surprised everyone is selling to them like this.

Rebel_Scum1436d ago

They want/need capital I guess.

darthv721436d ago

No way they are worth that much. They are a support studio. I guess tencent decided to throw them an insane price that Sumo would be crazy to turn down.

Its like the godfather. "Im going to make you an offer you cant refuse"

UltraNova1435d ago

Always the case.

Who owns the rights to Crackdown and Sackboy IPs though?

boing11436d ago

I've heard some time ago, that they created a special unit that has a mission to search for acquirable devs all around the globe.

-Foxtrot1436d ago

Going off their business practices they seem like a cancer in this industry

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blacktiger1436d ago

chinese currency, no limit in printing, but they are selling in USD

PrinceAli1436d ago

Maybe because they're a publisher of games with a history of success loool..?

barom1436d ago

Even Microsoft can’t compete with that kind of money.

Zeref1435d ago (Edited 1435d ago )

Uhm yes they can.. What do you mean?

Zeref1435d ago

Money talks, Besides, those developers don't need to worry about income anymore.

enkiduxiv1435d ago

I doubt anyone that matters to the actual production of the games is getting a raise. The only thing that has changed is that now they can't buy any Winnie the Poo products for their kids.

senorfartcushion1435d ago

Well they’re allowed. America and China are leading the world in toxic capitalism.

n1kki61435d ago

As publicly traded companies it's either they sell and potentially get more, or tencent initiates a hostile takeover and buys at least 51% of the shares. These companies might not even be amicable to the buy out but opt to take it because hostile takeovers are terrible.

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frostypants1436d ago (Edited 1436d ago )

Yep. A company that built itself by ripping off IP of small, innovative developers and out-marketing them. Tencent is everything wrong not just with gaming but corporate ethics in general, and the assymetric regulatory playing field we for some reason permit from the Chinese government. Egregiously corrupt companies like Tencent should be banned from the US market.

senorfartcushion1435d ago

The US market would take Tencent to dinner and have it naked on the bed by midnight if it could. America and China are as bad as each other

Lightning771435d ago

They can take Sumo those devs really aren't that great. Sack boys big adventure scored good however but Crackdown 3 wasn't great. They're 50/50 Sony will find a suitable replacement for Sack boy. MS desperately needs a suitable replacement for crackdown, if it's not already too late in terms of fanfare at this point.

Sumo to me isn't that big of a deal there are better devs out there.

senorfartcushion1435d ago

Crackdown 3 was cancelled and remade a few times. Hardly their fault.

darthv721435d ago

This is the same Sumo who made Outrun 2, 2006 Coast to Coast, Sonic Racing Transformed as well as Forza Horizon 2 on the 360. I think they are better than you give them credit for.

Wulfer1435d ago

You might want to walk this statement back. Why else do you think this game goes for over $200 now?

https://www.ebay.com/p/5144...

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ScootaKuH1436d ago

I'm surprised Sumo are valued so high

solideagle1436d ago

yeah, thats what I thought. $1.3 billion is very high, Insomniac sounds like a bargain deal for Sony!

chadwarden1436d ago

And they likely bought Housmarque and Bluepoint for even less than Insomniac.

phoenixwing1435d ago

at the two above me,
it's easy to sell for less when you know you're in good hands business and culture wise. I mean sure you could scratch out some extra money elsewhere but are all the people you know going to be taken care of when you get bought out? Sony takes care of them. Basically you can tell who's a scheming money scumbag by what ceo's/execs choose to be bought by. In the end money talks but there's extras to consider sometimes.

roadkillers1436d ago

I am as well. They do not own any IPs from my understanding...

DOMination-1436d ago

Me too! After looking them up, it seems like they were the parent of other game studios: Lab42, Red Kite, Sumo India, The Chinese Room and PixelAnt Games and also have some cryptocurrency technology.

They may also still hold the IP for back when they were Gremlin Interactive.. back in the Amiga days they were really a dev of some repute.

ScootaKuH1436d ago

Gremlin. Now there's a name that takes me back. Ocean as well.

Teflon021435d ago

They're not, it's likely them just throwing money around to make sure they have no opposition. Sumo is a valuable developer as they've assisted in alot of great games. They did LBP3, Sackboy, Sonic Transformed, I believe Assisted in both ModNation Racers and LBPK, Team Sonic racing, just to name the few off the top of my head that I own.

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IRetrouk1436d ago

I honestly thought ms or Sony would have nabbed them, seeing as they have worked for both on their respective ips, colour me surprised.

Bennibop1436d ago

It's a lot of money for a group with no ips, what would they have worked on to keep so many studios and staff employed. For now at least they continue working on ips for the likes of Sony and Microsoft.

IRetrouk1436d ago

Sony and ms have more than enough ips to keep em busy, the price would have been an issue though, that I agree with, just surprised is all🤷‍♂️

frostypants1436d ago (Edited 1436d ago )

Tencent doesn't exactly pride themselves on original IP anyway. They just steal someone else's. They only need developer drones.

Sephiroushin1435d ago

They have enough to make them busy but there is no point in buying the studio that high, they could just make the developers some offers and thats it... heck every single developer could just quit the studio and with what is tensen left? no point in buying a studio with no IP you dont own the developers

IRetrouk1435d ago

I already agreed that the price was high, still don't take away that they could have been used, and be useful to either ms or sony

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Xbox Cloud Gaming PC Preview/Hands on Impressions (BETA) - CG

Microsoft recently released their Xbox Cloud Gaming PC Beta which allows users the opportunity to stream Xbox games to their Windows 10 PCs or laptops. This follows on from being able to use the cloud gaming on mobile devices which works very well but is limited to the size of your screen. Having the option to play Xbox games with a larger display has its obvious benefits.

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Crackdown 3 8K 60 FPS - Possible at Low-Medium Settings with an RTX 3090

CG writes: Nvidia’s claims that the RTX 3090 can render games in 8K at 60 FPS, ring true for us in this video. We put the game Crackdown 3 through its paces with some interesting results.

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bunt-custardly1713d ago

If you've ever super-sampled anything you would know why it can make things look better.

bouzebbal1712d ago

Let's talk about powahhhh of da clawwdd for a second 🤣did they give up with this thing?

bunt-custardly1713d ago

Oh right, I didn't get the joke sorry, it just clicked. Hmm, is Crackdown 3 really that bad/universally hated especially as it's on gamepass?

SullysCigar1713d ago

My attempt at humour could have been clearer, in hindsight..!

Yeah, sadly Crackdown 3 had been hyped so hard and so long by Microsoft, that when it launched as a mediocre game, it got panned. It was mainly the broken promises about the power of the cloud I think that did it. This was the 'cloud power' poster child for years and it all amounted to nothing, which is a real shame, because if they'd realised their initial vision it could have been special.

bunt-custardly1713d ago

I do remember the original vision where entire buildings could be demolished but wasn't that feature relegated to the multiplayer mode? For me, Crackdown 3 comes across quite generic. I suppose if it had the full destruction in the story mode that would have been bad-ass. If Red Faction Guerrilla can do it why not CD?

FanboySpotter1712d ago

Crackdown 3 was made for crackdown fans. Hated by non crackdown fans. Enjoyed by crackdown fans.

MadLad1712d ago

I played it on PC for a little while via gamepass. It's not nearly as terrible as people would try to make it out to be, but it's the definition of a "meh" game.
There's fun to be had if you're bored.

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andy851712d ago

It's good it's possible but who would pick this over 4K60 on ultra? It would look far better

IanTH1712d ago

100%. This is obviously just showing what can be done with the current highest end hardware, rather than what should be. And if you're splashing out for an RTX 3090 over a 3080 for gaming (small performance delta if not using that huge buffer for productivity), then I guess you'll also consider splashing out for an 8k screen. And, I mean, you'll want to be able to do *something* with it lol.

outsider16241712d ago

Let's be honest here, even with extra high settings at 8k 120fps... it'll still look like crap. Sorry.

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