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Windows 10 vs Windows 8.1 Gaming Benchmark Comparison: Which OS Grants Better Performance?

With every new iteration of Windows, many always wonder how the new version stacks in comparison with the old for gaming. In order to know, DualShockers tested Windows 10 and Windows 8.1 it with both popular graphics benchmarks and benchmarks included in a few games, in order to give a spectrum of different situations and see which operating system provides the best performance.

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MRMagoo1233610d ago

So the difference is not even worth an article by the looks of it, the fps difference is that small that it could have just random.

samchez773610d ago

And virtually unnoticable to the naked eye......

donthate3610d ago

Most people cannot see differences in frame rate, but they can feel it when they use the controller. It seems like the difference is across the board, but it is so small.

However, who was expecting better performance?

DX12 is the game changer here, not old games running on latest OS.

GameNameFame3610d ago

Of course donthate comes to damage control.

"average fps of 2 difference.." Yea. You won't even notice that.

mikeslemonade3610d ago

That's a 5% increase. I will take that. The negativity is silly here.

4Sh0w3610d ago

I really don't see the point, Windows 10 was built to take advantage of DX12, none here are using DX12 so I would have just figured it would have minimum or the same performance as 8.1....its a OS not a new graphics card.

Vegamyster3610d ago

@mikeslemonade

Exactly, also i noticed older games like Tiberium Sun run better and even Batman AK had noticeably less stutter compared to 8.1

Erik73573610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

eh....2-3 fps.... though that alone will not make a difference but a accumulation of little things like that add up and do make a difference of 10-15 fps....so I will happily take windows 10

UltraNova3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

Putting aside the 'dramatic' improvement of 1, yes 1 fps from W8.1 to W10, the most dramatic part of this article is actually Giuseppe's(Abriael) fight with a poster in the article's comment section..

"Again, pipe it down"

Ahahhaha, pure gold! Moderation at its best!

Dynasty20213609d ago

Please don't tell me you're one of those crazy people that can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 FPS?

Some people cant tell the difference between 120hz and 60hz (100+ FPS and 60 FPS) and it blows my mind. It's so insanely obvious.

ABizzel13609d ago

Isn't Windows 10 suppose to be more support for lower level API, because I don't understand the point in using a high end gaming CPU.

It would have been a much better comparison to see what something like an i3, FX CPU, APUs, Pentium, etc...

It would also make more sense to do this when better drivers are out.

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PC_603610d ago

No games are built with DX12 yet patched with it yet

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ3610d ago

Don't know about yall but I got 15fps jump on GTA V from Win10 alone, and that was not even a fresh install... :D

BubbsyKong3610d ago

Well ill put it like this for u on CS:Go on windows 7 id get about 118 fps at the main menu, with windows 8.1 i had about 115-116 with windows 10 its about 119-120 and thats the first build of windows 10 too..... Give it a month or so and we will se these numbers go about 20-30 fps higher, im alreaddy in love woth my upgrade

PistolsAtDawn3610d ago

I knew when Win 10/DX12 released people that don't know what they are talking about would jump all over something like this...the games were NOT made for DX12, and it will not affect all games the same....they were very open about this from the beginning...so the fact that there is ANY improvement at all for a game just simply using a different API without any new optimization and being made for a different API is awesome.

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starchild3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

It's a decent improvement. I don't think anybody expected massive performance gains on Windows 10 while still using DX11. When games start getting made from the ground up to utilize DX12 is when we will see some real significant improvements.

Still a small gain like this is still welcome. People overclock their graphics cards for similar performance improvements.

PistolsAtDawn3609d ago

Yeah, and these games aren't even using DX12 AT ALL...it's DX11...just on Windows 10 instead of 8.1. DX12 isn't the API yet.

FlameBaitGod3610d ago

The OS just came out lol, its amazing it does better than W8.1 after all those updates it had. With a few updates it will be a lot better

mcstorm3609d ago

I was a fan of windows 8 as I got a surface when it came out and worked well for touch so I adapted quick to the look and feel of the OS and really enjoyed using it but I now have a surface pro 3 with windows 10 and wow this OS feels amazing on the device in both desktop and tablet mode. I'm not a big gamer on the pc but as an OS for work and play I do see where windows 10 beats both windows 7 and 8 and the OS is only going to get better as time goes by.

Perjoss3610d ago

Its worth an article because in the past upgrading to a new windows has usually at first shown a significant performance hit in terms of gaming.

n1kki63609d ago

2-3 frames certainly could be from many factors, but for people saying you wouldn't notice, you would certainly notice if you were running v-sync and your frame rate dropped from 60 to 30 because it didn't have the extra few frames to maintain 60.

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samchez773610d ago

Interesting. A gain is a gain but nought to get excitied about really.

Now, I wish they would do the same with a mid-end system to see if the benefits also include systems with a lower end CPU that bottlenecks. Apprently that is where the real meat is for DX12.

Abriael3610d ago

I'm more happy than there isn't a loss. I'm always scared with new OSs. I was especially wondering if having the Xbox app running on the background would have a negative impact, but it doesn't.

JamesBroski3610d ago

It really depends on the game you're playing. You can't really judge a whole OS on game performances with 4 games tbh. The Xbox App makes BF4 crash if you try to set it fullscreen in the options (just press ALT+ENTER and it works) and GTA V stutters like crazy now.

AndrewLB3610d ago

My thoughts exactly. After reading a performance comparison article on guru3d and a bunch of comments from people running Windows 10, I decided to cross my fingers and hit upgrade about two hours ago and so far I'm liking Windows 10 Pro. It's much snappier than Windows 7 Ultimate and the only thing I'm not liking is I have to re-learn where various settings are. I'm also trying to figure out the deferred updates system because I'm not a fan of mandatory automatic updates including drivers. Luckily I have the pro version which allows me to prevent certain auto updates, but if you have the home version... you're at the whim of Microsoft when it comes to updating your computer.

Grap3610d ago

Well Most PC have 8GB of ram so dunno why would you think it would have negative impact on pc. It's not consoles.

uth113610d ago

same here. Especially with Windows

Seafort3610d ago

I've disabled the Xbox app and many others from running in the background that I don't need or want.

I don't know why Microsoft think PC and Xbox can be mixed in with each other. One is an open platform which can be upgraded any time the user wants and the other is a closed, locked down system which Microsoft completely controls. Apples and oranges.

I have noticed a slight improvement in the games I play after installing Windows 10 on my PC. I'm hoping it improves as more games use DX12 like ARK and Fable.

samchez773609d ago

I agree Abriael. There is always a certain amount of upgrade anxiety isn't there. I even get nervous with BETA drivers lol.

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xTheMercenary_3610d ago

It's still a win. Im running windows 7 and apparently windows 8.1 runs games 2-5% better in performance in most games, so going from windows 7 to windows 10 i should see an increase of 5 to maybe 8% which is awesome. Although the performance increase is small, anything is better than nothing.

VJGenova3609d ago

My firestrike scores went up roughly 5%. I don't run benchmarks on games I play so I can't say if the games are better, but it's promising. There are of course, no dx12 games out to see what it can really do though. Soon enough.

TheBurger293610d ago

Not much of a difference but wait until games that use dx12, that is when the games will have a performance boost.

PistolsAtDawn3610d ago

Yeah...or at least patched to use DX12....here it was simply running a DX11 game on DX12...NO optimization nor games built for DX12.

christrules00413610d ago

Yeah, just watch out because there are going to be games that say they support DirectX12 but the game engine is still built towards DirectX11 and adapted a bit to have it work on DirectX12. It'll still give a boast, but not as much as you would think.
In a couple of years we will get developers saying that there game engine is built specifically for DirectX12 like Brad Wardell did and then we will see the full benefits.

RedDevils3609d ago

I would wait 12 months after release when, everyone tested it out before I made a jumo

JamesBroski3610d ago

Games either feel the exact same, or are unplayable. GTA V is now unplayable for me; as soon as there's action on screen, the game stutters like crazy.

I tried a bunch of games and the only one with issues so far is GTA V. But as a whole, Windows 10 is freaking amazing.

VJGenova3609d ago

I was playing crysis 2 last night, and I noticed quite a bit of stuttering. Didn't look up to see if it's the game or not though. I know the last boss in crysis 1 killed all machines. It was only at one part too, so idk. Probably nothing.

Stapleface3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

All I have tried is Witcher 3 and Fallout New Vegas. Something new, and old. Both run great. No real change that I could notice. But none to be expected really.

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Microsoft is bringing its Xbox Auto HDR feature to Windows

A new test version of Windows 10 also includes new File Explorer changes.

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XxINFERNUSxX1552d ago (Edited 1552d ago )

Most PC gamers right now do not have HDR monitors. "as long as you have a compatible HDR monitor" I'm using a 240hz Alienware 1080p GSYNC panel, (AW2518H) while I love it and love the high FPS in games, I'm not buying a new lcd just yet. So for now I just use reshade in all the games I play and enable "fake HDR" 😁 It's pretty good to, not real HDR but close enough for me. 👍

darthv721552d ago

If someone doesnt have an HDR PC monitor, can't they use a HDR supported tv? Most PC cards support HDMI out so I would think that could be one option. It might not have the uber high refresh but I'm sure it could work.

XxINFERNUSxX1552d ago (Edited 1552d ago )

Yeah the HDR TV will work over HDMI. I'm using displayport myself but if your just using that connection you can just use a displayport to hdmi adapter since displayport carries audio just like HDMI.

XbladeTeddy1551d ago

"Most PC gamers right now do not have HDR monitors."

Your point? Nothing wrong with Microsoft impementing this. Once you do get a HDR monitor in the future I'm sure you'll be moaning if Microsoft didn't have any support for it on Windows. They're not going to postpone it because XxINFERNUSxX doesn't have the right monitor yet.

CaptainHenry9161552d ago (Edited 1552d ago )

This is great news. I'm about to invest in a new HDMI 2.1 and Display port 2.0 monitor this year I'm looking at you Asus PG32UQ . Perfect timing 👌

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Wrex3691552d ago

This is such a cool feature honestly.

Fluke_Skywalker1551d ago

This is good news I hate having to enable HDR manually everytime I play an HDR enabled game. Some games already turn it on automatically but they are very few and far between (Destiny 2 is actually the only one I know of 😅).

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Steam vs DS4Windows – Which is best for DualSense On the PC

Now that I've had some time to play with the PS5 DualSense on PC with Steam and DS4Windows, it's time to decide which is best for PC gaming.

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My issue is that on steam you can modify on a game by game bases as some nave native support and DS4Windows you'd have to turn on and off and the issue with what I'm saying. If it has native support and you use the Steam API or DS4W it'll give you Xbox control prompts so it's more convenient to just run the steam API. Generally games outside of steam make sure to have support unless old. I have both and will only use DS4W if I absolutely have to. It's good but the game by game bases on steam is so much more ideal. Example Games with DS4 native support will allow trackpad support like Ni no Kuni using the track pad. But with DS or Steam activated it puts the trackpad to the share button. So the manual ability to disable it anytime that game starts makes it where that game operates correctly every time

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XxINFERNUSxX1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

I just use my 360 controller for 3rd person games, like GTA. All FPS games keyboard/mouse. No need for me to spend 70$ on a controller. Plus I like it to just work without any drivers just plug & play like the 360 controller.

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Try turning off Windows 10's Game Mode if your games are stuttering or freezing

A growing number of users say Game Mode is causing performance issues in games.

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oasdada1864d ago (Edited 1864d ago )

Wow i just turned off my game mode a few days ago just because.. and i felt sloght performance getting better but i thought maybe it was just me.. and now i read this

godmachine1864d ago

Right , I read this about a week ago and immediately changed it even with a nvidia gpu my fallout 4 with 3d vision stopped hitching almost entirely

starchild1864d ago

Hmm I've been getting microstuttering in games on my relatively new Ryzen 5 3600. But it always goes away once I restart my PC. Very strange. But I think I already have game mode turned off.

Rude-ro1864d ago

Not sure if you can turn it off.
I
Have to go into task manager and fight it to get it stop running.

Skuletor1864d ago

I turned it off today, was relatively simple. Went to settings, gaming, clicked game mode on the side tab, then toggled it off

Rude-ro1863d ago

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Right... but I find it still running when going through the task manager.

traumadisaster1864d ago

Last week I heard of that while trying to figure out audio stuttering on a rd 5700. There seems to be a lot of people having audio crackle and go in and out on amd. It seems like there is an audio conflict with two sources trying to control, I don't know.

monkey6021864d ago

I've been diving into the PC gaming side of things head first since last summer and I have a good grasp of it and I'm comfortable with it all now

But what you've just said is exactly why there'll always be a space for home consoles in the gaming market 😂

traumadisaster1864d ago

True, there can be enough problems to make one think it's not worth it. But overall since the ps360 days playing in HD or even 4k at 60 fps vs the muck of 720p under 30fps, non vsync with awful tearing it makes you figure out the pc. Then when you get steam sales over the years it's really nice. But there is a small percentage of pc horror stories that won't happen on console.

TheColbertinator1864d ago

Did this a year back and apart from less performance hiccups I also got less sound glitches. W10 Game mode is not a very beneficial feature for me.

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