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The Last of Us 2: Is This Good or Bad News?

With Nolan North’s slip of the tongue, the internet exploded, as he seemingly revealed that Naughty Dog are currently working on a sequel for The Last of Us. However, with Naughty Dog remaining silent and Troy Baker claiming ignorance, it appears that we are no step closer to receiving official confirmation of The Last of Us sequel. Yet Ryan believe that their reluctance to comment has all but confirmed that The Last of Us 2 is genuine. The more important question, however, is whether we want/need a sequel for The Last of Us.

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bixxel3265d ago

How is that bad news? TLOU was the greatest game ever.

Crazyglues3265d ago (Edited 3265d ago )

And therefore I shall not click, nor shall I comment on this silly question, uh? oh this too counts as a comment, Ok, well then I will just do the first part then.

And with that I bid this story farewell, Good Day Sir.

amiga-man3265d ago (Edited 3265d ago )

If it has the same production values as the first (with Naughty dog on the case I wouldn't expect anything less) coupled with the extra power of the PS4, the game will be a sure fire hit.

Bring it on

monkeyDzoro3265d ago

Seems the propaganda is starting way sooner than expected. The game isn't even announced.
I bet you when it will, you'll see articles like:

"5 reasons why TLOU2 will not be as good as TLOU"
"Why TLOU2 will dissapoint gamers"
"5 reasons why you shouldn't be excited for TLOU2"

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Army_of_Darkness3265d ago

This would be the best news ever! if it were true and in my opinion, it probably is but ND won't say a word until it's ready to be revealed.
When I finished the first one, I was happy that I completed it, but actually sad that it ended...

Braid3265d ago

Come on guys, it's ND we're talking about here. Whatever they touch they turn into gold, there's almost little to no possibility that a follow up game could be bad.

bixxel3265d ago

Lol why do you think I just answered to the title post?

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Concertoine3265d ago (Edited 3265d ago )

Still kind of disappoints me that we cant make stand alone games anymore. Everything has to be sequelized.

There was a lot of mystery weaved into the world and plot of TLOU, and its better off to leave it for that player conjecture and theory.

I wouldnt mind another story in the same universe (although this would inevitably still spoil some of the mystery), but returning to the same characters would be a total mistake to me.

kneon3265d ago

I'm ok with a Joel and Tommy prequel. There are 20 years of back story to cover there, and they can start off right after the opening scene from TLOU.

Spotie3265d ago

And yet, when there were great standalone games, we always wanted more. Now that we get more, we're wishing we didn't?

Concertoine3265d ago (Edited 3265d ago )

@Spotie

We does not equal me.

I can still admire a stand alone game without wanting a sequel. Also i feel its worth saying that its not often that a game comes nowadays that is better without a sequel. Games are just designed with that in mind, but TLOU stands on its own fine.

ginsunuva3265d ago

Because they'd be cashing in on a sequel that Sony told them to do instead of making a game they actually want to make.

3-4-53265d ago

who the heck is gamebolt ?

bixxel3265d ago

A clickbait. Do not click on... oh, you've already clicked on it haven't you?

jb2273265d ago

If you read the article, he actually goes on to ultimately say that any story ND land on will most likely make for a totally worthwhile & amazing sequel. One important aspect of the whole situation he touched on is Sony's relationship to ND, whereas other publishers may force an exclusive dev's hand & dictate what projects they can & cannot make, Sony seem to truly allow ND the freedom they deserve to make the amazing experiences they are capable of. That's still lacking w/ so many consoles, & it's burned Sony in financial terms many times in the past allowing devs the freedom to make new & interesting experiences, but it always benefits us gamers, and I personally think Sony should be commended for allowing the studio to create whatever experiences they are excited about. Hopefully this continues on, if ND make TLOU 2 or not, that should be solely down to them & not some greedy business practices. TLOU was a pretty perfect title, but that doesn't mean that everything worthwhile that can be said has in fact already been said.

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Relientk773265d ago

Naughty Dog is always good news

SmokingMonkey3265d ago

GF and I were talking about a possible plot for TLOU2.

What if you played as Ellie's Mother? and Father? in a prequel?

We thought, how cool/emotional/controversial would it be to play as Ellie's Pregnant Mother? A scene similar to when Joel was stabbed by the jagged metal?

Thoughts?

Ravenheartzero3265d ago

Spoilers!!!

I thought about what story would appeal to me if they did a sequel and tbh I think it would be cool if you played as a firefly hunting down Ellie, she is very important to the human race so I don't see why they would give up. Maybe start the game at the end in the hospital when Joel runs into the elevator carrying ellie with fireflys right behind him, you are one of them. That's what I'd think would be cool imo.

SmokingMonkey3265d ago

That's not bad. Making it so Ellie is the Monster this time.

Fits well with:

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/th...

Better argument than most people.

rainslacker3265d ago

I could see this and it would allow you to leave Joel in the story. You could switch between Joel/ellie and the FF throughout the story. Hard part would be making the FF likable, so eventually he'd probably have to capture Ellie, and have some kind of connection to her somehow so make him human.

trenso13265d ago

nah we know they die why play something you know the outcome for.

SmokingMonkey3265d ago (Edited 3265d ago )

True, that's why prequels can be kind of predictable. Like the new Tomb Raider, you know Young Lara makes it.

DoctorFry3265d ago

"This article, is it clickbait or not?"

goldwyncq3265d ago

Not a bad news in any way at all. Fear of the unknown is what's driving people to write articles like these. Fear that a sequel wouldn't hold a candle to the first game, despite Naughty Dog proving again and again that they are perfectly capable of crafting sequels that far exceeds their original games.

DoctorFry3265d ago

Except for Uncharted 3. Uncharted 2 was way better than 3.

KwietStorm_BLM3265d ago

I never understood the 2 was so much better than 3 talk. They were very similar games to me. I felt like because it wasn't undoubtedly better than the last one, then people said it was that much worse.

Skankinruby3265d ago

I challenge you to explain yourself. Every insult to uncharted 3 has been nothing but nonsense. Somehow it became a trend to badmouth 3 but every single person that has done it has been a little coward when asked to explain why. 3 was every bit as good as 2 if not better. The story, gameplay, amd character development were all amazing. My guess is you wont respond or give and stupid empty one like 'nah 2 was definitely way better'

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Neil Druckmann: Philosopher gamer behind 'The Last of Us'

who is now the sole leader of Naughty Dog, “I promise you, we will not be ‘The Last of Us’ studio forever.” Numerous games, he said, are in the works, including “multiple single-player projects.

Lightning7710d ago

I know he has a celebrity like status but unless he's announcing his game soon idc what he has to say from this point on.

We need announcement something from him.

Crows909d ago

The dude is a nobody. He's also wrong. Naughty dog is the uncharted and Jak daxter studio.

They only made one universally praised last of us game. They're not know as "the last of us studio" but they are currently known as the "remake" studio.

Lightning779d ago

I like his games tbh I'm just more upset at the fact that he's been talking and talking and not showing anything. I'm an actual fan of his work, don't cars if that's that's a popular take or not.

If he has nothing to show or talk about. I don't care about his interviews, his red carpet appearances or what's next for last Of Us 2 TV, leave that to Hollywood. You don't see SP, Bend, or any other studio doing what he's doing. They're remaining quiet and focused as most PS studios do. He should do the same. The next thing I wanna hear him say is "now heres our game" we know that probably won't be for another year or so, so he needs to remain silent and stay out of the limelight for awhile.

AsunaYuukiTheFlash9d ago

You are wrong. LOU2 won a lot of GOTY and was highly rated. It's okay to dislike the game but saying that ND just made one critical acclaimed LOU game is just hating at this point.

rippermcrip9d ago

Kind of a weird interview. No substance, hardly any questions. It's almost like they forgot to post the whole thing or something.

neomahi9d ago

Oh brother...... It's like a balloon filling with helium. He's got nothing new to say. Naughty Dog went from being a studio of numerous developers to being about him and what HE does. Bruce Straley was the co-creator of The Last of Us, and he left--I think for the same reason Christophe Balestra left and since then, Naughty Dog haven't been the same. PlayStation is incredibly woke, as all businesses seem to be these days, ignorant to what's really going on sacrificing the greater for peanuts, but I think they left because of the uprising political atmosphere. They knew there was nothing they could do about it and an attempt to try and combat it, in today's society would end them up in legal trouble so, they just left, what else can you do when the opposition behaves like a child, screams and yells louder than you want to in raged fits, and will throw lawsuits at you at whatever chance they can, but you don't play that way, so they left. And Naughty Dog hasn't been the same since.

Naughty Dog was huge at one time! They were the underdog that became the top dog but, the direction it's fine, just watch and wait. It's ego, and Druckmanns ego of thinking they're untouchable and can just coast along, will drop them rock bottom, in due time, they could see the same fate as Xbox's teams met. Fans will turn on Naughty Dog because A) Naughty Dog aren't producing, they're not what they once were.
B) Gamers ARE growing tired of the woke culture overtaking their lifetime hobby. They're just more silent about it, it's the quiet cool

anast9d ago

Non of this makes sense. I would like to think you didn't spend too much time writing it.

Crows909d ago

I hope you didn't spend much time reading..it...cuz obviously you didnt understand it. But that's okay. There's many other comments to read...

MIDGETonSTILTS179d ago

You project your own views on the world, and that is a mistake.

Crows909d ago

Um...so you project someone else view on the world? What are you talking about?! We all project our view on the world lol...smh

anast8d ago

It's called perspective. I understand that. But I don't understand the poster.

smashman989d ago

you know it's not his fault that people are interested in what he says, right?

Also, Naughty Dog is bigger than ever.

Crows909d ago

Smaller....where's their last big game? Yeah...I remember when they were actually releasing heavy hitters.

smashman988d ago

@Crows90 It was in 2020 and despite what a vocal minority says it was critically acclaimed and the 2020 game of the year. Not only that but The Last of Us is also a critically acclaimed television series and PlayStation's most successful foray into Film and TV yet.

So yes, Naughty Dog is bigger than ever, and just because you don't vibe with them or whatever does not change that fact.

anast9d ago

He's a solid theatre arts person, but he's not a philosopher. Being good at one thing doesn't mean he's Descartes.

DarXyde9d ago

I believe that philosophers are more principled than Druckmann, to be honest. It's fascinating that The Last of Us Part II was literally inspired by the Israel-Palestine conflict and was a needed commentary on humanity and ending the cycle of violence, only to have some questionable commentary after 7 October.

I don't hate the guy as some others seem to. He's been a big part of some great games, but I'll never understand the obsession with hanging on all of his statements.

Chard9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

That's a good point in relation to 7 Oct - a far more important issue where valid criticisms could have been made of this guy, but most here seem thoroughly distracted by trivial issues

anast8d ago

@DarXyde

Like all artists he has a signature. People that have an agenda will try to look for that signature and use it. This is why a lot of "journalist/game influencers" hang on every word. Most of us just enjoy his work and get hyped when he mentions something about a possible new game.

@Chard
"a far more important issue where valid criticisms could have been made of this guy"

Which is?

MIDGETonSTILTS179d ago

Sony should try and stay radio silence outside of hard reveals.

It’s painful to wait for any info at all, but it’s less painful than skimming an interview that avoids all details whatsoever.

Commit to radio silence, Sony. You can afford to leverage the trust in gaming output that you’ve cultivated.

anast8d ago

That wouldn't be a smart decision. There must be a constant stream of connection in today's world.

MIDGETonSTILTS176d ago

When a constant stream of connection delays a game 1-2 years, and said games take 5 years to make anyways…. Sony fans are better off trusting Sony to deliver than expecting frequent confirmation.

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken19d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty19d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken19d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty19d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken19d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis00719d ago (Edited 19d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken19d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

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@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto18d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer18d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek18d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken18d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie18d ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman120819d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast19d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit19d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export19d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight20319d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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Naughty Dog Boss Neil Druckmann Says AI Will 'Revolutionize' Development

Druckmann claims the tech could 'push the boundaries of storytelling in games.'

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Jin_Sakai21d ago

I’m more interested in what else he said.

“Neil Druckmann says new Naughty Dog title could ‘redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming’

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H921d ago

It will be something like "we erased gameplay all together it's just a movie now"

purple10121d ago

every time naughty dog make a game, you play it and get the feeling "this is not possible'

from the boulder running towards you in crash, on ps1,
to the massive open world of jak and daxter, on ps2,
to the QuickTime events sequences of uncharted on ps3/4

and now we will see what they do with ps5,

H920d ago

Press X for doubt at "PS5"

-Foxtrot20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Arrogant asshole who sniffs his own farts bigs up next game…sounds like typical PR to me

You know what I find interesting? Almost every site reporting this as the main title where the REAL interesting bit of the interview is Neil praising AI and saying it will be used to help push story, characters, dialogue and more.

It’s super shitty to big up AI especially when it comes to story telling and other creative elements.

senorfartcushion20d ago

Just because someone says this type of stuff, it doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to be good news.

You can say this about microtransactions. MXTs revolutionised the gaming industry.

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Levii_9220d ago

Geez how full of themselves are these guys.

Einhander197220d ago

He also said it has "ethical issues we need to address" but of course that doesn't get the clicks.

CrimsonWing6920d ago

I’m all for it. Cuts the time to make a game. Look, Hellblade 2 took 5 years to make, if AI can do that in half the time, as a consumer, I support it.

Chard20d ago

Things will get far sloppier brother

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