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Why Backwards Compatibility Isn't That Necessary

Currently, if you’re an Xbox preview member, you can start trying out the Xbox One’s backwards compatibility. We’ve all heard of this and the fact that Microsoft announced backwards compatibility for the Xbox One, which will support around 100 Xbox 360 games (it starts at the end of the year, 2 years too late guys…). This is great and all, but it isn’t necessary, or even any kind of a requirement for the vast majority of gamers. Consider this last sentence a trigger warning for some of you.

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N0TaB0T3653d ago

Why is having access to more games bad?

Ricegum3653d ago

This ^

Xbox fans moaning about Sony fans downplaying the feature, Sony fans moaning about Xbox fans completely over hyping it.

Backwards compatibility is a good feature. Game changer? Not at all. Just a good feature.

Professor_K3653d ago

like uncharted and horizon right?

let people hype what they want

Vegamyster3653d ago

I disagree, i game primarily on a PC and every large Steam sale i always find a game i missed the first time around that i want to give a try, Xone's BC is different since not every game is supported and its emulated but it's still a great option to have.

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marlinfan103653d ago (Edited 3653d ago )

What do you or anyone else care what people hype up? It's pretty sad when you guys feel the need to downplay something because someone might be excited about it

ShinMaster3652d ago (Edited 3652d ago )

BC is great.
But it's overhyped in that Xbox fanboys keep bringing it up as if it was a new game to downplay the game announcements from Sony's conference.
Expected consequences.

@ Dr_K

Uncharted 4 and Horizon are new GAMES.
Backwards compatibility is a feature.

NatFanBoyRestricted3652d ago

Shinmaster,there will always be new games. Always, get over it, but getting hardware to do different things then intended is different. Allot of playstations player base on this site will downplay the shit outta BC because it's related to Xbox. There's more Ps people here then Xbox people. The more people try to downplay something small, simple, and free is just starting to look stupid know. Even over hyping it. This community is something else

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Raf1k13653d ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I saw on the MS conference it seemed that BC on the Xbox One was for digital games so discs won't work.

MSpence5163653d ago

Disc games do work. The One installs the game in order to run the emulator. Whether you need the disc after the initial install, I don't know, but would assume so.

rainslacker3653d ago

For supported games, when you insert the disc, it will download the digital version from XBL.

You'll still need the disc in the drive for authentication purposes. If you brought the game digitally though it should work the same as on the 360.

Vystrel3652d ago

I was hoping disc games would only be a local install but youll need to download the entire digital version and leave the disc in. Other than my slow internet and need for a large external drive I am still looking forward to it.

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Sly-Lupin3652d ago

Because of idiot fanboys who will bend over backwards to defend the worst kind of nonsense.

I particularly enjoy the nonsensical argument that, "X is irrelevant, because I don't like X."

See it from idiots all the ****ing time; and it feels like there are more and more idiots in the gaming community now than ever before.

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Neonridr3653d ago (Edited 3653d ago )

Of course it isn't necessary. But it is a welcome addition.

If I surveyed a bunch of PS4 gamers and asked if they would rather have a PS4 or a PS4 that played PS3 games, what do you think the voting results would be? Are you telling me that everyone would be like.. "Oh I bought a PS4 to play PS4 games, I never want to revisit any old games on this new console ever again"..

??

I can't understand why so many people are trying their darndest to put this thing down. Nintendo has always been praised at their ability to offer backwards compatibility with their previous systems. It's not required no, but some people spend a lot on their game collection, and it's nice to not have to keep multiple consoles hooked up to the TV just so that if you can revisit an older game.

People say that this feature would have only been beneficial at the launch of the console. Consider for a moment that there are still a lot of people that haven't jumped on the next gen train. Last I checked there were over 150 million combined consoles sold from Microsoft and Sony during the Xbox 360 and PS3 generation. Last I checked there was only about 35 million or so PS4 and Xbox One owners..

That means there are millions of people that have not made the transition yet. This feature could be something as a bonus to entice 360 owners to ditch that console and make the upgrade.

Now we know that not all titles will be supported so it's not like Nintendo's backwards compatibility, but you can guarantee that any first and second party titles will work along with select third party games so there's a good chance a chunk of their library will be supported eventually.

LifeInNZ3653d ago

The first line of defense (or attack) when a competitor offers something you don't is to downplay it. However, the only way BC should be seen as a bad thing is if they had to take away other features to make it happen.

I've yet to see a single argument that makes me think BC is a bad idea/feature.

MysticStrummer3653d ago

"I've yet to see a single argument that makes me think BC is a bad idea/feature."

I've yet to see anyone claim it's a bad idea/feature, just that it's overrated as a system seller or E3 conference winner.

WelkinCole3653d ago

Off course many PS4 gamers would want BC for PS3 if it was an option. But for an added cost most likely all of them would say no.

Its a nice feature but it is not the second coming of Christ like many xbox gamers are claiming.

35 million in the first two years are generally the hard core gamers with a collection. Not the casuals that jump in later that generally don' have much of a collection to begin with.

Even then, most of them will jump in when there is already a back log of current gen games that many would prefer to play than replay any old games they might still have.

Its really is in the early days of a new gen that BC would matter a bit because there are still great previous gen games release with little to no new current games available.

Some xbox fans are expecting BC to turn the tide but they are solely mistaken. Just like they were with more markets for x1 or DX12 etc.

Neonridr3652d ago

you said it there though, you would want it, but not for an added cost.

which is exactly what MS delivered.

NatFanBoyRestricted3652d ago

Welkin, where exactly are the Xbox gamers claiming this to be as big as you describe?

WelkinCole3652d ago

Neodir. The point is it is not a must have feature that PS fans would pay for.

Yes x1 fans will not pay for it and that's why it was a great feature when announced. However it is clear you and I both agree it is not going to win MS the console.

@macxb1. Go into any Who won E3 articles and you will find plent of them there.

rainslacker3653d ago

I'm sure a majority would say they wanted the feature. Particularly if it were at no added cost and if it didn't take away anything from available resources and all that.

If they had to pay for it though, I think the number would go down significantly.

But, I have seen plenty of people say that they buy a current gen console to play current gen games, and that they don't care about BC. This has been said countless times before there was BC on either console.

Sly-Lupin3652d ago

Forget PS3 b/c for a moment.

What about PS1 and PS2 b/c?
There's ZERO excuse for its absence from the PS4.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer11h ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster300011h ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer11h ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger10h ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30009h ago(Edited 9h ago)

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole4h ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto11h ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing6911h ago(Edited 11h ago)

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif9h ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing699h ago(Edited 9h ago)

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif8h ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot10h ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast10h ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts10h ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto9h ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos7h ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole5d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK4d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent754d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM4d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif4d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer4d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin4d ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Obscure_Observer1d 10h ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever"

I´d told you were on some bs

https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp...

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Agent754d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer4d ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM4d ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer5d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused5d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher5d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning775d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay4d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer4d ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198123d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK22d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts22d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK22d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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