Brian Horton assures that the Xbox One version won't be held back due to the Xbox 360.
It's already held
Are you the director at Crystal dynamics? Seems like you know everything.
I do think they'll be doing their best for each platforms. However.... this game should have been an Xbox One exclusive, if you can get in on the 360, then later on other platforms, then what gives? It's not going to convince anyone to go out and buy and Xbox One.
The graphics already look like they're held back by the 360. The only people denying that are die hard fanboys
@Nirvana You need to read up... The 360 version is being done/ported by a different developer.
it will be interesting if they can achieve 1080p and 30fps like they said they are. i expect this will be out within a year on the ps4 unless microsoft pays to lock it up like they did with titanfall. which may very well happen and become a microsoft exclusive like ryse and dead rising 3. sony is probably thinking the same thing with no mans sky.
@Nirvana I don't even like the X1 and to me the gameplay they showed looked very good.
Seriously though, do you honestly expect the game director to say.. "Well we've decided to hold back the X1 version of ROTTR to achieve parity with the 360."
Well it's easier to upscale than to downscale, so this game was definitely made with last-gen consoles in mind from the beginning. But I'd say it still looks good. ___ Anyway, I'm calling it 6 months before it makes its way to PC/PS4.
@Nirvana Exactly only blind fanboys and single console gamers (x1 only) gamers are in denial! Just go look at the uncharted 4 footage, no way in hell ps3/360 could ever run it! Its not just about the graphics, but the physics, lighting, level size and scope, seamless animations etc No WAY IN HELL!!! obviously they could strip everything down massively, but then it wouldnt be the same game. Then go watch the new tomb raider footage, its laughable compared to uncharted 4 a true next gen exclusive! I am looking forward to both games, but unlike some i own and game on all platforms and i call it as i see it. Just look at that bear fur? Lmao its embarrasing! They should of made it current gen only. Game play will be great in both, but trust me uncharted is gonna make ROTTR look like a last gen game, watch both the videos. Hell uncharted 2 and 3 had better snow and water, fire etc. Keep it real fanboys, i will be playing both games but will u? If not stop the hate and dont lie to your selves!
@UltimateMaster if u haven't noticed xbox is all about options now so whatever suits you, not sony telling you want you want like ea access and backwards compatibility
if it isn't being held back by Xbox 360, then it must be being held back by Xbox One. given its weaker hardware, getting to 1080P must had its sacrifices.
@spicelicka The only way the game could not be held back is if they are not the same game...the bottom line is, if the xbox 360 version is essentially the same game, with the same size areas to explore...then there is a problem, and they definitely designed the xbone version with the 360 in mind.
Everytime a game is released to both current and past gen, it will be held back by it, doesn't matter who's saying it won't. That's just how development goes today, publishers/devs don't go around spending money on making proper multiple versions of the same game, they just do something that all target platforms can handle, than they adjust effects and stuff accordingly. This doesn't mean anything bad, in fact, if we look at games that are being released from past gen to current and then some (PC), you'll probably notice that devs are getting really good with scalable assets and what not now, but frankly old gen was just too different coding wise, making the whole scalable thing work much better between current gen and PC alone. In a way they are getting to the point where they can still extract enough from all platforms to make respectable games all around with the usual multiplatform development model, but to say it doesn't hold anything back at all is not just delusional, it's an out right lie.
Forza horizon 2 was done by different devs and it was not held back on X1. 360 version was smaller with less to do
@OrangePowerz So a cinematic climbing the side of a ice mountain looked like amazing gameplay. Wow, ok. There was no really gameplay in what they showed. Was Laura running around? Was she killing stuff? or was she using weapons? So technically enlighten me on how that gameplay looked good?
Looks great on Xbox One Will look greater on PS4 and PC MS knew the risks of this move and were willing to take the financial hit
@Utalkin I didn't say amazing. I said what they showed looked very good to me. Because there was no shooting, weapons, running around or whatever else something can't look good? The gameplay and animations looked very smooth and fluid and the graphics also looked good. They already had the shooting down on the first game so I certainly wouldn't be worried that they screw it up for the sequel. I hate to be nitpicking but it's Lara not Laura :)
Anther PR damage control by Crystal dynamics..
Surely you can't push a game to its limits when you know you have to make the game playable on 10 year old hardware at the same time? I want what was not possible on last gen systems, not the same with fancier graphics held back because they had to think of the limitations of the last consoles.
Judging by e3 previews & dev interviews, the only 'new' things this game is doing is presenting a few bigger tombs & introducing bear fights. Only 2 locations, minor upgrading systems and more of the same really. I'd love to play it & I'm sure it'll be a great game, but you are absolutely right, the 360 version will hold this back, sure the graphics will be prettier on XBO but there's no info released yet that's making this game next gen. People need to learn how to read between the lines & manage expectations...no need for hyperbole when the devs itself have set the realistic standards on what to expect going in. If you dug the first one, chances are this will be more of the same w/ a new setting & prettier graphics. If you were expecting a huge globe trotting leap forward for the series, you will be let down.
And what kind of new ideas and advances are being held back due to it being on the 360? Name just one.... There aren't any. The old consoles can do EVERYTHING the new ones can, only with much lesser resolution and framerate.
I guess Doom on PC must have been "held back" by the SNES version, because devs can't possibly create bespoke versions for alternative hardware. Oh that's right it was the mid nineties on a 16 bit cartridge fed console and they still worked it out.
LMFAO like if next gen games where being held by PS3 and X360, what a joke
Only in your biased dreams. The game looks better then expected by many gamers. There's no way this game will be held back. Horizon 2 was released on the XBox 360 and XB1 and the XB1 is far superior and it wasn't held back either. They are like two separate games. This is Day One for me. I have faith this game will even be better then the first one. @Nirvana31591 Not being held back. Only biased trolling fanboys who don't own an XB1 think it is.
@angelsx- You know a lot about being held back, I bet.
How? It was hands down best looking game on e3.
held back by troll opinions more like it.
It is held back; you can already see the mediocre graphics from the e3 gameplay and trailer
looked amazing to me, especially the facial animation. nothing mediocre about it. just a bunch of hating trolls is all I have seen since this game was annouced
@Big Finger xbox fans dont give a damm about uncharted but you ps trolls keep bring it up lol pathetic.
now that is pure trolling.
I know right. The game looks f**king phenomenal. The vistas in the back drop on the E3 demo looked insanely good not to mention the depth in the character models and facial features.
Wonder if they'd be saying the same thing if it was exclusive to PS4 with that same footage?.. As far as timed exclusive it depends on how it does, if it does well Microsoft may just keep it exclusive, but I see it going to PC.
@Mkai28 Game is coming to PS4 as sure as the Pope has to pee in the morning. Otherwise MS would scream it's console exclusivity form the roof tops! instead 0> holiday exclusive! you get the picture. holiday exclusive?! I say 1-2 months it will be on PS4 before Uncharted 4 will come out! Game looks great btw.
@starchild if you mean one of the best looking games at microsoft conference then I agree most of the games showed there were ugly anyways, But Sony and EA showed much better looking games Uncharted 4 looks miles better can't even compare the two Horizon looks way better Battlefront looks even better Mirror's edge looks better most of the game showcased at Sony's and EA's conferences looked better than tomb raider
Mediocre graphics? Come on now, that's not true and you know it. It's actually one of the best looking games I saw at E3. The facial animation, as one example, is probably the most accurate and realistic facial animation ever seen in a game. But lighting, textures/materials, post process effects, dynamic snow, large scale, etc are all top notch as well.
You guys are just hilarious. Dont you ever stop? Lmao. I enjoyed that trailer and i've seen more gameplay videos and the game looks amazing.
I think the graphics are great, although not necessarily on par w/ the best of what we've seen so far this gen. I think really what's holding the game back is the quick turnaround and that has hampered the gameplay growth from 1 to 2. If you watch GT's coverage or most any other outlet, they've all said that the crafting & weapons haven't really grown that much over the prior game, then the interviews w/ the devs have confirmed that there are only 2 locations, the main Siberia location and a small stop in the desert of Syria. The enemies are largely the same and the climbing mechanics are the same. The only real improvements or changes aside from graphical fidelity is the idea of a larger focus on tombs, something that remains to fully be seen at this point (remember that the devs also said there'd be a focus on tombs for the last game and that was obviously a relative statement), and the introduction of Bear battles. Some things don't need much changing from iteration to iteration, but when you compare those few small pieces to all of the new things that other games, most namely Uncharted 4 are doing w/ their transition to a new console, it makes me wish they would've had the time to truly make this game something new & special. The lack of location variety is the biggest sore spot for me personally. Globe trotting is my favorite aspect of adventure games & a big part of Lara's legacy (not to mention one of the main factors that made another sequel, UC2 one of the modern classics of last gen), but it's been largely neglected w/ the move to the semi open world, a genre that's already being over done imo.
Glad I own a Xbox One. Haters keep hating!
It's also coming to PS4 and PC.
PC next year but no PS4.
@Vasto As far as Timed Raider, why can nobody at Microsoft, Crystal Dynamics, or Square Enix just say the only devices the game can ever be played on??? I mean Microsoft doesn't have a problem with announcing Xbox games on PC. But they're talking about Timed Raider completely different because they can/have NEVER referred to it as just an "Exclusive". They ALWAYS have to refer to a time frame when talking about Timed Raider's "exclusivity". And again they referred to Titanfall as just Exclusive even though that went to PC. They're referring to Gears Ultimate Edition & Fable Legends as just Exclusives even though they're going to PC.
@uptownsoul Good point. How many times did we hear that big booming voice at the MS Conference "XBONE ONE AND WINDOWS EXCLUSIVE" If it were going to window I dont think they would any problem saying that, even if it wer 6 months down the track. The announcement even said Xbox Exclusive Holiday 2015.
Whats your point....Its still going to get buried under mediocre sales by being exclusive to one console when Fallout, Battlefront, COD, Halo, Forza, and everything else MS has coming release all at the same time.... and in 6 months to a year when it pops up on PS4 it will get ignored again coming out around the same time as the game Tomb Raider now emulates Uncharted comes out.... Everytime you idiots try to run that its never coming to PS4 with your MS PR crap, Crystal Dynamics comes out and says NO ITS A TIMED EXCLUSIVE... And NO I know moroic Xbot logic, its not the same principal as Street Fighter 5....SF5 wouldn't exist for quite a few years had Sony not of funded it, as opposed to MS trying to swoop in when a game is 50% completed to purchase TIMED exclusivity
the game looks Great https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.a... https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.a... https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.... https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.... i don’t know how the graphics is "mediocre" @i3eyond the Circle i Found some good gifs :) http://giant.gfycat.com/Def... http://i.imgur.com/7mQv2mq.... http://giant.gfycat.com/Bot... after this who would say mediocre graphics
Thats excellent. I wish someone would make a gif of the helicopter chase and the exploding facility escape. This game is a graphical powerhouse and the low visibility snowy atmosphere (which is on purpose) shown in the trailers do it no justice. You can see this games graphical integrity when she's pushing that mine cart too...it's really one of the best looking games out. Wish someone could teach me how to make gifs from videos
"I wish someone would make a gif of the helicopter chase and the exploding facility escape." Ah...here ya go. http://imgur.com/hK7NPF9
@kionic and truegamer HELL YEAH dudes! You really just made my day. Saving those links! Doesn't it look great? I think at e3 all we got was a taste.
Dat ass ;) but yeah the graphics look great.
Haters gonna hate Lara. Great shots.
Game looks amazing, haters going to hate. Theres a lot of salty people over this game, tells you just how good this game is looking.
I know right...can't wait to see what it looks like on PS4 and 4k on PC! http://orig00.deviantart.ne...
@d_g It's obvious why some people are hating this game. its very obvious and it's quite hilarious too. lmao. the game looks amazing. nice shots
I dont really hate the game. Sure im bothered that its a timed exclusive but i can wait. :) It pays to accept things the way they are instead of complaining all the time. Which is what i do and it makes me happy. Anyways i have Uncharted 4 to hold me over until then. No idea why others dont have this attitude.
That 4th pic, she's got some arse......just saying.
I just hate timed exclusives from third parties. On both microsofts end and sony's. But whatever I guess when it does eventually come to the ps4 ill be enjoying it.
My guess is they made the 6 month exclusive deal wit Microsoft because originally u4 was due out the same time and they didn't want to compete with that. U will see a ps4 version that looks and plays better 6months or so after release
The only thing they said that it was only for the holidays and they haven't started making the PS4 version yet. Which means it might take some time for the game to come out but I predict that well see it before next year is over.
Have they said they aren't currently working on a PS4 version? Only thing I've read is that they are 'fully focused' on the MS platform. Doesn't exclude concurrent developmental procedures really. I agree we will see it before 2016 is over, but I actually think it's a shoe in for a summer release, right around the timeframe the definitive next gen edition of the last title released.
Ps4 owners are used to waiting. They had to wait two years to play one good game and another year to play another good game lol so not suprised
still waiting for one good Xbox One exclusive then. Not a single Xbox One exclusive so far scored 90+. Highest rated Xbox One "exclusive" is an indie game playable on pc lol
I hope they add new content to the PS4 version
It'll come with all the DLC and hopefully more. if they think they can do something else with it then I hope they add it
They HAVE to. Check out the sales of the PS4/Xbox One version of TR, after it was released on PS3/360, and gameplay was spread all over YouTube. When a game takes away that "NEW! FRESH! HYPE!" feeling, that diminishes interest tremendously. Especially if you pass up on bringing it out on PS4/PC this holiday (it's going against a Microsoft-marketed Fallout 4, Halo 5, Star Wars Battlefront, and the finale of the Black Ops series), just to have it go head-to-head with Uncharted (a game *specifically* geared as the same genre, a direct rival, and unanimously deemed as being the better game) at the top of 2016. By that time, I'll be dull to the game, unless it comes with some real extra content. SE already probably figures that...
IF it comes to PS4 but I doubt it. People forget Microsoft is publishing this game and helping the development
Question: What do Ninja Gaiden 2 and PlanetSide 2 have in common? Get back to me when you figure out where I'm going with this.
Now I'm not saying the graphics are crap they are good but when I watched the trailer the textures did look blurry a bit last gen when in close on environments and clothing all makes sense now I know it's coming out on the Xbox 360 as it will be built round the 360 and enchanced for the xb1 . But am sure the game will still be a good game , def think the detail level would have been of much better quality if these companies just stop making games for last gen and focus on the current gen.