E3 2015: Final Fantasy 7 is a Remake, Not a Remaster

IGN:
The PS4 version of Final Fantasy VII isn't just a simple remastering of the original, but instead will be an entirely remade version of the beloved PS1 game.

In an IGN interview, executive producer Shinji Hashimoto told us that the team tasked with bringing the JRPG classic to Sony's modern console is looking back at the original to see what needs to be changed.

The game will be more than just an update, in other words. It will be a full-blown remake. "We're putting in a lot of careful thought to meet" the expectations of fans, Hashimoto told us.

[Kanako]

I wonder if they'll keep the traditional turned based strategy.

[CaspuR]

I hope not....

As much as i loved the orginal i really feel like ff7s remake should expand on ff15 battle system while retaining the ability to play with all ur party members. I love turn based games as much as the next guy, but it just doesnt work for every game anymore final fantasy is among them. And people please dont give me the excuse that turn base is more strategic than an action rpg because it really isnt. 95% of ff7 battles revolves around you waiting ur turn spaming ur strongest attack and healing if need be, limit break whenever u get it rince and repeat. Training is more laughable because all u really do is just spin ur directional pad in a circle waiting for a battle then mashing the O button till the enemies die, you dont even need to look at the screen.

[Spotie]

Agreed. I won't be upset if they stick with turn-based combat(I don't believe they will), but not trying something else will be a missed opportunity, in my opinion.

[CorndogBurglar]

What do you mean turn based doesn't work for final fantasy anymore?

It worked for Final Fantasy for over 10 games. Lol FF7 being the most popular.

[dmixwell]

To me the battle system isn't a deal breaker. From the looks of comments like yours and the out weighing dislikes, people want it to keep the old atb battle system.
It's not a thing square could do to this game that would prevent me from buying it.
With that being said I truly believe if they used graphics close to what was seen in the trailer, that whole random battle atb style would turn off newbies and it will look so strange

[Griever]

I do not think people will like it if they change the battle system. That will create a massive divide between the fans. They can tinker and balance the battle system by adding modern intricacies and technicalities but I think it should still be turn based. Turn based can be great challenging fun too. Recently, the Atelier Escha & Logy turn based battle system was awesome. Persona turn-based battle system is awesome as well. They fast, strategic and cool looking. IMO instead of dropping the turn-based system, they should upgrade it to modern times with increased challenge, strategy, improved camera angles, better animations and depth.

[CaspuR]

@CorndogBurglar

Keyword in the quote you took from me is anymore, its been 14 years since final fantasy 10 and 18 since final fantasy 7 probably 20+ by the time this game comes out. Im not saying turn based games arn't good
But its time for Final fantasy to move on. In a modern game like pokemon I can fully understand why its turn based because your giving your pokemon commands to do so it fits the situation thus not breaking immersion. In Persona 4 it relies on trial and error in battles , You need to figure out ur enemies weakness in order to defeat them, there are to many things to consider in combat to make persona anything other than turn based. Final Fantasy 7 arn't bogged down by any restrictions it will translate well into an action rpg all they need to do is bring over the materia system and make it so you can use each of your party members freely thats it

@dmixwell

I know people dont want it to be turn based as much as they think they do. Half of the people commenting probably havnt played final fantasy 7 since 2001, they are blinded by nostalgia and feel like the only way to do ff7 justice is to keep it the same. Im not surprised by there reaction to change, Most people arn't forward thinking, which isn't an offense to them, I just wish they would see the possibilities.

[christian hour]

@caspur

"probably havnt played final fantasy 7 since 2001, they are blinded by nostalgia and feel like the only way to do ff7 justice is to keep it the same"

Plenty of people playing FF7 on steam right now.

Personally, I bought FF7/8/9 psone classics on PSN 2-3 years ago and played them all recently.

Turn based is fine.

The people who have been asking for a remake for almost 2 decades, or the people who have been convinced each e3 we'd get one ever since that ps3 tech demo showed up, are definitely wanting a turn based system.

As someone who can remember rushing home to play FF7 as an excited ten year old all them years ago, I would prefer a turn based system over an action rpg. I honestly don't think this FF7 remake is for this new generation that have grown up with mostly action-rpgs. If you want to play a terrible final fantasy go play FFXIII or some crap.

[Arxios]

For me, if they don't try to keep the battle/materia system basically the same (maybe have the option of turning off the summons animation) then they shouldn't call it a FF7 remake, but instead have it be another entry like Crisis Core. I think by calling it a remake will give them flexibility with the game, but it shouldn't come at the expense of a function that was the core part of the original experience...IMO.

[kingdomtriggers]

Nomura has gone on record several times that he doesn't really like turn based combat, so there is that….Advent children-like combat, oh the possibilities.

[Simco876]

If they don't, it won't be a remake.

[christian hour]

Exactly, the resi remake on gamecube couldve easily done away with those tank controls. But it didnt. BECAUSE IT WORKED! The clunky controls made fighting the undead all that much more terrifying.

The recent resi games done away with all of that, now they're not even terrifying, too action packed and gun ho, and anyone who's been with the series since the beginning HATES them. Kinda like what happened with recent Final Fantasys. Yes, change is good, but that doesnt mean things always change for the better. Sometimes people change the wrong things.

[greenmiker]

Its time to replay that epic game after years!

[Mr_Luke]

Mh... i guess i misunderstood then. Not "remaster" (revamped graphics and some extra) but "remake". They're really going to change things then? As long as they don't ruin the whole FF VII feeling and the story... well... fingers crossed >_<

At least it's not FFVII Reboot, that would make me worry a lot more.

I really hope to see something more and soon, i'll be happy even with just a screeshot of a fight or something =D But then i'll want more, and more and... i want it NOW!! O_o

[Edi007]

I hope for ff 15 combat and engine

[NoctisPendragon]

I really want the engine , even more since the FF VII AC team made it (partially) .

[Jedislayer]

Last I heard as we all saw Tetsuya Namoura is the director. And all the last games from him were ARPG. (sorry if I misspelled his name lol.

[Nucler100]

NO more turn based confirmed! Woooo!
I guess they'll be using the XV battle system?

http://www.vg247.com/2015/0...

-That said, it’s extremely unlikely the combat of the original will be retained.

“We can’t have these upgraded, beautiful 3D models of Cloud and Barrett, still lining up in a row, jumping forward to attack an enemy, then jumping back to wait for their next turn,” Nomura said.

“That would be bizarre. Of course there will likely be changes there.”

[Asuka]

as long as i am able to control all members of my party i'll be happy.

[pompombrum]

Agreed, if they done the combat so that you control only Cloud and can win most battles by just spamming square, that would be a huge disappointment.

[NoctisPendragon]

It will surly be the case , FF XV has some special things like team combos and Noctis (too much mobility,powers and moves set vs the other party menbers ) but it shouldn't be the case for FF VII Remake .

[raWfodog]

Exactly this. I don't mind not being able to control multiple characters in FFXV but please do not even think about taking away control of all of the FFVII party characters. In fact, I hope they include the ability to do combo attacks with one or two (if not all) other party members.

[Simco876]

Ahhh this news puts the wind out of the sails for me.

[raWfodog]

I may catch flak for this but an updated version of FFXIII's combat system could also be a good compromise. It is still 'semi' turn-based and the characters are still fluid in their movements across the battle field.

This could also allow for special combo attacks with other characters, dependent on who is in your battle party at the time. Speaking of which, they should also up the battle party to four characters total (like FFXV) in order to give you more variety of these combo attacks.

[Quickstrike]

Time to start a riot

[bangoskank]

I'm glad. I liked the turn-based battle system twenty years ago but that's kind of stale now that we have better AI and have the ability to freely control our characters during combat. Technology can vastly improve the experience. Wish the whining fanboys would learn that.

[N4G4L]

So what if they made the battle system like FFXV but you were able to switch between all of the characters in your party, and also have the ability to change your party before a battle like you were able to do in FFVII. i mean that would keep it fresh while still retaining the original ATB..

[Mikeyy]

I have no idea how an action based ff7 would even work. How the F would you even do magic for 3 characters while also having to run around?

I swear these people never even played 7. It makes no damn Sense. You'd have to dumb the battles down big time for that to work. No more epic boss fights. No more emerald ruby.

If they use 15s system then all we get to play is cloud the rest of the party are AI. No Thanks.

[NoctisPendragon]

FF XV is a special case with the AXB and Noctis .
In FF Type 0 you can switch between 14 characters (with a diffrent gameplay ) .

It should be ok for the FF VII remake .

[Mikeyy]

I have to YouTube it. I haven't seen it. It's just really upsetting. I don't want a game that is just button mashing or plays itself.

Edit: just watched it. That was god aweful. I can't believe you want that. Mash square to attack? Really deep gameplay there.

[NoctisPendragon]

Are you talking about FF XV or FF Type 0 ?

The FF XV E3 gameplay trailler is more representative of the game : https://www.youtube.com/wat... (everything seen here was confirmed to be in the final game ) .

And FF Type-0 gameplay is really fun and expensive (with a lot of RPG elements ) .

PS : You can't button smash in both of them , even more in FF Type-0 .

[Adrian_v01]

@Noctis

You can't logic with them. Their vision is so narrowed down to turn based. You can make the best game with the deepest battle system ever, if it's not turn based they'll call it button mashing. Like he did for Type-0, go try button mashing in that game you won't survive 5 mins, you got 14 different play styles, enemies specifically weak to types of magic elements, statuses, weapon types and so forth, but nah, it's not turn based. Must be button mashing.

[Simco876]

Totally agree. It's like menu driven = no skill nowadays. Just because you don't control your player in a 3D field doesn't mean skill isn't involved. Whatever. Square will ruin everything, they've done it for years.

Time to take the greatest game they ever made and put that failure seal all over it.

[Elda]

We know...we know!..hoping the battle system is fast & furious action based but controlling all characters!

[Number-Nine]

how would that work?

[deathtok]

It's a nod toward turn based RPGs allowing you to control all characters.

[Number-Nine]

Fans asked for this. It would be a slap in the face if they change things for the sake of change.

[deathtok]

I'm really looking forward to this... a little hindsight should be fine but I hope the changes still maintain the right feel.

[Phoenix76]

oh no, I've just realised.... we're going to see Aeris die in HIGH DEF :*( pass me the box of tissues.

[DarkBlood]

Well it better be turned based at the end of the day because if I want to play an actionrpg game thats what ff15 is for.

we dont get enough of that genre because its always everything else these days