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How Will Sony Respond To DirectX 12 And Windows 10?

With the news of DirecX 12 and Windows 10 coming for the Xbox One, the question arises as to how Sony will respond to this. In a new opinion piece, Skewed and Reviewed look at ways that Sony may respond at E3.

DEEBO3708d ago ShowReplies(1)
Transistor3708d ago

PlayStation doesn't need to respond to anything Microsoft is doing. I remember these articles when the Xbox dropped to $349, PlayStation did nothing and are still selling more.

Microsoft reacts to PlayStation this generation, not the other way around.

xHeavYx3708d ago

Even Xbox's boss said that Dx12 won't do a lot to benefit the Xbox One.

Transistor3708d ago

Yeah, I've noticed it seems to be little sites and Xbox fans that hype DX12 for Xbox One more than Xbox or bigger tech sites.

Garethvk3707d ago

Yet when I wrote this I was asked to take it down for being flame bait and outdated news. They are doing a flip flop now and telling everyone how much better things will be.

HaveSumNuts3707d ago

Does Sony really need to reply with higher resolutions on PS4 already being confirmed for upcoming games?

breakpad3707d ago

Doesnt need to reply to hype marketing tactics .

gangsta_red3707d ago

Strange that everyone wants to specifically quote one thing but never another.

Can we also start to quote Phil when he said this...

https://twitter.com/xboxp3/...

"DX12 will have impact on XBOX One games written for DX12. Some DX12 features are already in XBOX One but full DX12 coming.'

I guess that would kill a lot of fanboy arguments though.

Oh well I guess people forget certain things...especially with how the Spurs lost in game 7...yup, i went there.

Army_of_Darkness3707d ago

@gangsta red... That quote won't kill anything cause most people are still skeptical such as myself for example. That is until I actually see some type of improvement because of it, otherwise it's just bs talk to convince consumers too buy the xbone over the ps4.

As for the ps4, it doesn't need to react to any of this cause it's proving itself by its continuous releases of exclusives and the better multiplat versions of 3rd party games.

miyamoto3707d ago (Edited 3707d ago )

The PlaySaviour 4 will alwys be real to itself and be the Real PS4 it has always been aand loved by millions of gamers around the world.

If The PS4 did not react tp $150 XB1 pricecut all the more ot should not even lif4 a finger.

But let me tell you guys Sony will be expanding the PS4s install base by appealingbthe family freindly gaming this holidays so it might drop the price by $50 -$100.

gangsta_red3706d ago

@Army_of_Darkness

Skeptical of what? Are people really skeptical of an API created by MS for use on their own gaming system?

Really?

This isn't some new strange tech or outlandish science fiction story. Where is this skepticism coming from?

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Volkama3707d ago (Edited 3707d ago )

They won't really react to Dx12 as far as consumers are concerned. Behind the scenes they might implement a few features from Dx12 into their own API, and/or facilitate some easy porting within their dev tools.

Windows 10 might bring some more visible features that are worth competing with. If streaming to a multitude of devices is well received then I can see an official "playstation remote play" app coming to iOS, Android, and even Windows 10.

Nothing wrong with trying to offer popular features, even if they do already have a sales lead.

VaporCell3707d ago

I own both consoles, I win regardless :) Is it possible for you guys to leave the whole console war aside for a bit? k thx

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DEEBO3707d ago

My phone is messing up my text writing

But MS needs to find a way to stop PlayStation.

Zeref3707d ago

Sony doesn't do anything because they CAN'T do anything.

Windows 10 is an OS and DX12 is a Graphics API. They don't do none of those.

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IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3708d ago

"How Will Sony Respond To DirectX 12 And Windows 10?"

*chuckles*

Sony will respond by:

Continuing to make more exclusive games than it's competitor

Continue to bolster it's current lineup with more games than it's main competitor

Continue to sell approximately 1 million consoles per month worldwide

Continue to market the PS4 as a gaming console FIRST that has additional features as an added bonus

Continue to ensure that PS4 supply meets demand

I'm still trying to figure out what exactly the company with the largest market share actually has to do other than continue to do what's working?

sigfredod3708d ago

why should sony respond to DX12?, both the PS4 and the one currently have very low level api on their suk, way lower than dx12 the only thing that dx12 do is to make easier and faster to a dev to transfer the game from pc to the console, but if the developer really want to optimize and invest the time the napi from xbone will have better results than dx12

Volkama3707d ago

Because low-level access to hardware isn't the only feature of DirectX 12?

Maybe some of "Conservative Rasterization, Rasterizer Ordered Viewed, Typed UAV Load, Volume Tiled Resources, and a new Tiled Resources revision for non-volumetric content" could help developers. I don't really know what the benefits of most of those are, but if they benefit developers and ultimately the quality of games then I don't see why Sony wouldn't implement them if they can.

sigfredod3707d ago

as i say it will ease and speed process, but any programmer know by a fact that the most close to machine language more you can squeeze from the performance, im a programmer so i know, it take time? yes, more time more money?, yes, but the results cannot be denied

Volkama3707d ago (Edited 3707d ago )

And yet Sony offer a whole API wrapped around their low level offering. Not every developer aspires towards the same goals, and sometimes ease of development counts for more. So again, there are potentially features of DirectX 12 (or even DirectX 11.3) that Sony might implement.

If DirectX 12 does anything good then why wouldn't Sony want to implement it? Are you saying that the PS4 API already offers all the technical facets of Dx12?

I don't think Sony "need to respond" because of any commercial pressure, but that doesn't mean they can't benefit from the advances.

MrDead3707d ago (Edited 3707d ago )

No doubt this will be N4G's new No1 article and it tells us nothing.

It tells us nothing about DX12
It tells us nothing about Windows 10
It tells us nothing new about the PS4

I would have been just as informed on "How Will Sony Respond To DirectX 12 And Windows 10" if I had read nothing.

Garethvk3707d ago

Why should they rehash what was covered in the Xbox article the other day? The question is valid, MS is making moves and they ask what will Sony do and offered some possible answers.

MrDead3707d ago

The title of the article is "How Will Sony Respond To DirectX 12 And Windows 10?"

The only part of the article that mentions DX12, windows 10 and Sony is this "Recently there has been much talk and some debate about the pending addition of DirectX 12 and Windows 10 to the Xbox One system and what positive features it will bring to the system. Some see a better graphical performance as well as cross-platform play and some new streaming options and see it as Microsoft’s biggest move yet in their ongoing battle with Sony."

It’s an asked question that isn't even speculated about in the article, I thought that Vulkan might be mentioned at least that would relate to the question asked but there’s nothing.

Everything else in the article doesn’t relate to the question asked.

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils11h ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

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isarai1d 15h ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning771d 13h ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher16h ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor15h ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde13h ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z3h ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer4d ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30004d ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer4d ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger4d ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30004d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto4d ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing694d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif4d ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing694d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif4d ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot4d ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast4d ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto4d ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos4d ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo4d ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner4d ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic18814d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Are you and Anast the same person?

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

dveio4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted4d ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast4d ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay4d ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted4d ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl34854d ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK4d ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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