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Microsoft doesn't want players to 'share' each others library but doesn't clearly express it

A month ago Xbox user DanTup posted a suggestion on the Xbox Feedback page regarding the use of the Xbox Home functionally on the Xbox One.

DanTup asked for clarification on the matter of players using the Xbox Home feature to allow them to share games with a friend by allowing them full access to their game library trough the Xbox Home feature. In a tweet Xbox Support has stated that this scenario is against the terms of use but there is no mention of this scenario in those 'terms' or 'usage rules'. On the contrary the 'usage rules' state that players can change which console is their Home console up to 3 times.

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RjK311jR3343d ago (Edited 3343d ago )

Having 3 X1's now and a couple of PS4's, I've noticed this on my MS as after attaching my family and using my GT, it was easy for me, to quickly see these advantages, or awesome features... Which now makes me wonder of its at all possible on the Ps4...
will update you guys in a lil bit.

VER1ON3343d ago

It should be possible on the PS4 'Activate as primary PS4'?

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3343d ago (Edited 3343d ago )

For any PlayStation system on your account you simply need to deactivate the console that has been designated as the "primary" console then activate the console you want to have as a primary account user.

Here's an interesting question in regards to sharing your account:

Do you really think that allowing someone else to have UNRESTRICTED access to YOUR account and YOUR library is a good idea? Suppose the person using your account doesn't give you back control?

Worst case scenario, the person sharing your account deletes all of your digital content then runs up a bill on your account.

Da Ill One3343d ago (Edited 3343d ago )

It doesn't work that way. If you and i were gamesharing on the PS4 or Xbox one, you only need my password (and vice versa) for the initial setting of each other's home console. Once that happens, I can change my password on my account, and can even delete your name from my system, anything I buy you will have access too and anything you buy I can play. But you can't sign on as me and buy stuff from the store or delete my save files.

And if you were referencing 'Share Play' on PS 4 (which is different then gamesharing), if you are the host they don't get access to your store, only the game you are share playing with them, and you can stop share playing at anytime even if they don't want you too. just turn it off.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3343d ago (Edited 3343d ago )

I'm actually talking about the Primary account functions that are available when you log into Playstation network from a PC. I have no idea how that works on Xbox because I don't have one. I was just asking why anyone would allow someone else to have full access to their account, password or no password. Maybe you don't get what i'm trying to say:

Sure you could share games that way, but YOU would be responsible for any breaches, unauthorized charges and purchases made with on your account. The only risk you have while using Shareplay is having the person you're sharing a game with deleting your saved games, other than that, they have zero access to your account.

Da Ill One3343d ago

But that's what i'm talking about, if you gameshare with someone, once they set thier console as your home console, you change the password and they won't be able to log into your account from the store. If you just gave them your password then yeah of course but you'd be stupid to do that.

and even with play share they won't delete your game saves, just watch what they are doing and if they go there turn the share play off with the press of a button.

DeadManMMX3343d ago

That's why you only do it with trusted people. I do it with my lil brother so I can buy games for both of us. My best friend and cousin are linked to me and we go halfsies.

Kidmyst3343d ago

I have 2 PS4's, one I play on in the bedroom and one I watch movies on and my Son will sometimes play on in the living room. When I buy a digital download game, it'd be nice to be able to let him play the same on the other PS4 without paying full price, even if I had to pay $5.00 for an additional lecense when both PS4's are registered to my accoun.

dcj05243343d ago

Who's stupid enough to leave credit card info on ANY site? That's begging for a breach. I share with my cousin, if for some reason we develop a hate for each other I can simply change the password and go on the PC to deactivate my account on his ps4 and reactivate it on mines. Does anyone remember 2011 or 2014? I trust no company with my credit card info.

mikeslemonade3343d ago

Pretty pointless to debate about security. It all depends on how much is willing to roll the dice.

kingkevin3342d ago

When that person is your wife yes

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Gazondaily3343d ago

Been doing this with my mate. Basically shelves digital prices in half. Everything i buy, he has too

OC_MurphysLaw3343d ago

Its an awesome option but also one you really should do with someone you know and trust 100% as you are giving access to your personal information beyond just the Xbox live account...they have access to your actual MS account too.

Grown Folks Talk3343d ago

Wrong Dlacy. Unless you do it with someone who lives in a completely different area. I've done it with a friend who lives nearby. Just recover my gamertag on his system & set it as my Home console. Just make it to where my password doesn't save. He can't log in as me unless I put in my password.

WildArmed3343d ago

Yeah definitely. Been doing this on PS3 for awhile now. We split 5 way, and all play the online tougher.

My brother, 2 best friends, sister and I.

Really cool feature for Xbox.
I do share my pa4 account with my brother, he has my account as primary ps4 while I have his.

UKmilitia3342d ago

you can just open an account between 2 people and then both add money to it through text or paypal and then buy the games and split the costs.
doensnt matter because your not giving your info out.

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DEEBO3343d ago

Just got my AC xbox back form MS with a month of live and gaming sharing with my son was really simple.

Just have the family plan and know you're password.

VER1ON3343d ago

Are you talking about the scenario in which you and your son use 1 Xbox? We're talking about 2 friends using 2 seperate Xbox's to share their games libraries.

DEEBO3343d ago

2 x1's, one gold live account =share everything digital .

Ps3 and ps4 are the same.

lemoncake3343d ago

I have been sharing like this with my bro since christmas, works great and I have been mostly buying digital since.

VER1ON3343d ago

Yes a lot of people seem to do it this way. You both live in the same house with the same xbox?

hello123343d ago

I have used this feature since launch with a friend its obviously not a feature that was promised by Microsoft. I see it as a benefit of owning a console sharing games with a friend.

dcbronco3343d ago

Actually sharing your library was a feature Microsoft wanted from day one. The Family Share program. It got scrapped with always on. So Microsoft has always wanted you to share your library with ten people. They even admitted they expected some to be friends, not family.

Lenrulesdaworld3343d ago

Same i've been sharing with my boy since close to launch and we both have gonna all digital and it's awesome. I'm in NYC and he's in Alabama, not true feature but really should be. or bring back the circle of 10 for digital game sharers only.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar4h ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn4h ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

anast4h ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning773h ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast36m ago(Edited 34m ago)

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

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Anast is salty because PlayStation has no showcases and no first party games.

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darthv724h ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes4h ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv725d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle4d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18814d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio4d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning774d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga4d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv723d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19923d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21834d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga4d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan4d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit3d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus234d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv724d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier3d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan3d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1014d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos4d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-4d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac4d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1014d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic4d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead4d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere5d ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN5d ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos5d ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN5d ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo5d ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies5d ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger5d ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic5d ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows905d ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger4d ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto5d ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos5d ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long5d ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel5d ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator5d ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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