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Elite: Dangerous Will Make its Console Debut First on Xbox One

Microsoft Xbox Division Head Phil Spencer is speaking a panel at GDC in San Francisco on the future of gaming across Microsoft's ecosystem.

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gangsta_red3352d ago (Edited 3352d ago )

Is this MS's answer to No Man's Sky?

Very interested to see how these types of games are played. Good to see that consoles are starting to get these PC type of games as in branching out instead of the regular FPS we seem to always get.

Will have to try this out when it comes to Xbox One.

christocolus3352d ago (Edited 3352d ago )

awesome.cant wait to see what other announcements they have planned.

Mr Pumblechook3352d ago

"Console debut" means big money paid for a "Timed Exclusive."

christocolus3352d ago (Edited 3352d ago )

@Mr Pumble...

and your point?

Pogmathoin3352d ago (Edited 3352d ago )

pumblechuck,
"Console debut on PS4" means big money paid for a "love of gamers, such the sweet company we are"

On the game, hope its at least half as good as Elite... The game that started my addiction to gaming....

Mr Pumblechook3352d ago

@chricolus er.. why the saltiness? Leave your console flag waving aside for just one post!I was simply say that 'console debut' is a different way of saying 'timed exclusive.'

LexHazard793352d ago

@mrPumblechook,

No, you said MS paid big money for time exclusivity. After todays GDC I dont think there should be any salty Xbox gamers. Just alot of other fanboys hating on what has been a very good day for Xbox One and PC. Hey but enjoy playing Xbox games on PC. Thanks for supporting MS.

Mr Pumblechook3352d ago

@BakPain Whether Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony; exclusives are never free. Money is handed over. This doesn't mean Microsoft are bad criminals for paying for the Elite exclusive - it's just business!

DOMination-3352d ago

Sony did the same for No Mans Sky. Whats the difference?

dcbronco3351d ago (Edited 3351d ago )

@mr pumplechook

You must not have watched Phil Spencer's GDC speak. He mentioned several times, as did a couple of developers, that porting to other Windows 10 devices was extremely easy. It took indie developers one day to port over. Moving forward all apps(which Phil clearly said includes games) will work across all Windows platforms. So if they made it for PC, it works on phone, PC, tablet and Xbox. There is no need to pay anyone for games that were most likely not intended for consoles when putting it on your console doesn't cost them anything.

The days of asking if there is anything to play on Xbox end this year. Windows 10 opens a huge library to Xbox.

I do agree that in the past support of some kind happened. At least after the first couple of years of the last generation. Early on there was loyalty to Sony by some because of PS2. But for Microsoft that should be much less of the case moving forward. Because it's no longer just Xbox. It's millions of Windows phones and hundreds of millions tablets and PCs. It's hard for any developer to ignore that many potential customers. Xbox just went from 10 million potential customers to several hundred million.

But it makes you wonder how sales tracking companies will count Microsoft sales. Just because you bought something on a phone doesn't mean that is where you intend to play it.

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bleedsoe9mm3352d ago

elite dangerous coming to xb1 , is star citizen out of the question ?

--bienio--3352d ago

of course, Star citizen is to powerfull for xbox..

_-EDMIX-_3352d ago

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/r...

Roberts only wants SC on consoles when its done on PC.

and no, I don't think Star Citizen is um....too "powerful" for XONE or PS4 as its specs to run it are below the PS4's and XONE's....

If ported, it won't look that much different.

NuggetsOfGod3352d ago (Edited 3352d ago )

Will a game with 4k textures and continouse increase in graphics over the years in an open world as it evolves thrive on xbox?

Sure...

That dx12 20% apu boost got people high as fack...

I just can't wait to play most xbox exclusives on pc!

LexHazard793352d ago

@nuggets of gold

" i just cant wait to play Xbox exclusives on PC"...you and a whole bunch of hypocrites.

DOMination-3352d ago

Interestin. At one point the SC devs were scornful over consoles. Seems like a change in stance if they now are considering it down the line

rodelthegreat3351d ago

Chris Roberts says he is open to the idea but there are some very big conditions that need to be met. One is crossplay. He explains it all here: https://forums.robertsspace...

I play from my couch with a controller sometimes so I can say that it would play well as a console game. The game wouldn't look as good but i guess that is true for any pc/console game comparison.

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OpieWinston3352d ago

Considering Frontiers and Microsoft have always had a strong relationship.
And the fact that the Elite games have been consistently growing and getting better.

It's a great answer to No Mans Sky.

Moldiver3352d ago

"It's a great answer to No Mans Sky.2

It is indeed. best of all is X1 will get no mans sky eventually. Porting the PC version via DX12 will mean it will be on the x1 within weeks of the the PC version.

But elite will be epic on the x1 this summer. Played this a bit on PC but quietly dreamt of playing it with my buddies on X1.

BlackWolf123352d ago

Correct me if I am wrong, but No Man's Sky has no "console debut" tag attached to it?

Just, coming to PC and PS4.

gangsta_red3352d ago

I assume they say console debut because the game is already released on PC.

So now it's appearing on Xbox One...hence why it's a console debut.

No Man's Sky has not released yet for PC or PS4 which is why "it's coming".

CaptainObvious8783352d ago (Edited 3352d ago )

I don't know why you're excited for this game, Red.

I mean, myself personally think it's very intriguing and xbone owners should look forward to it, but aren't all indie games complete garbage according to you? At least that what I've heard from you for so many months now.

I guess the rules don't apply if you're talking about your console of choice.

u4one3351d ago

I've played it on pc with the oculus dk2. It's pretty awesome.

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Atomicjuicer3352d ago

Hope this comes to Morpheus next year. I believe it was designed for VR.

_-EDMIX-_3352d ago

lol. I think your thinking of this game.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

But, yes E.D has confirmed to work with VR on OC so when the PS4 version releases, it can very well have a Morpheus patch.

Bobby Kotex3352d ago

As an oculus owner and elite owner, it wasn't designed for vr. It just happens to support it. The menus are terrible, but it's playable. The people who like the game are really into it, but I found it extremely boring.

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_LarZen_3352d ago

I don't understand why they would release first on the console that have millions less users? Money have most likely changed hands here..

--bienio--3352d ago

Pc version is already release...

christocolus3352d ago

you pissed? lmao.who cares if money changed hands. its awesome news for xbox fans.

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OpieWinston3352d ago

Frontier Developments made this game. Microsoft has a history with them. (Kinectimals/Zoo Tycoon/Screamride)

The Xbox has always had people who enjoy Sci-fi games. Mass Effect/Halo.

Why DEBUT on the PS4 when you have to compete with No Mans Sky.

It released on PC first and is a MASSIVE universe that can fit cross play in the future if they choose to. (I don't expect that)

Seriously Frontiers is very independent but they don't have any relationship with Sony so who do they go to first?

MasterCornholio3352d ago

"Why DEBUT on the PS4 when you have to compete with No Mans Sky."

Funny how that's similar to the Tomb Raider situation.

"Why DEBUT on the PS4 when you have to compete with Uncharted 4."

I can see why they would want to avoid those titles. Regardless I'm glad that Elite will come to the PS4 and that No Mans Sky will come to the XB1. The only question is when.

Fro_xoxo3352d ago (Edited 3352d ago )

I told a clown earlier... being market-leader doesn't guarantee any special benefits.

Games like this and Wastleand 2 are coming to Xbox. It has nothing to do with who's got a larger install base.

MasterCornholio3352d ago (Edited 3352d ago )

"being market-leader doesn't guarantee any special benefits."

Nope it doesn't. But depending on how the competition is doing it could be easier to get special benefits. Kind of like how 3rd party's are avoiding the Wii U but are flocking to the XB1 and PS4.

P.S I can imagine that its easier to negotiate deals with 3rd party's if your way ahead of the competition. Like what happened with SFV for example or MassEffect.

dawa3352d ago (Edited 3352d ago )

Wasteland 2 is coming to PS4 too.
http://blog.us.playstation....

_LarZen_3351d ago

I'm happy to report that it's now confirmed as a timed exclusive deal. It's coming to the Playstation 4 also.

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It's Time To Stop Giving Xbox Boss Phil Spencer A Pass

Under his leadership, many have lost their jobs and fewer games have made it out the door.

purple1018h ago

people should call for his resignation, he has literally flushed xbox down the toilet.
another 3 studios closed today, thats it now, get out

Tody_ZA7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Well purple101 you'd have to convince Observer and the other Xbox faithful that these studio closures and the fallout from the acquisitions is a bad thing and a sign of what's to come, and I don't think you're going to do that.

Nobody has managed that feat.

Redgrave6h ago

Obscure and Zeref have been summoned to the floor to give their account of these proceedings.

VenomUK6h ago

I 100% blame 'nice guy Phil' for the death of Xbox. The thing to realise is the Xbox Series S & X are performing WORST in console sales and game sales than the much criticised Xbox One - how can this be?

His two big mistakes were 1-not developing enough exclusives and 2 - always trying to beat PlayStation. If he made more exclusives over his decade reign and not tried to 'win' then classic Xbox would still be here in a profitable third place. Instead he tried a series of different projects to win and he ended up ultimately destroying Xbox by changing its relationship with its most loyal customers. What did he do?

* Phil spent a decade only release new iterations of Halo, Forza and Gears and not investing in creating new first party studios and IP. He mishandled Scalebound and shutdown Lionhead Studios.

* Phil tried Mixer, a streaming channel that could be used to promote Xbox dominance with free giveaways...

* Phil tried to create a streaming service that he regarded as too superior to consider PlayStation and Nintendo as competitors! But would instead compete with Netflix and Google...

* But his worst mistake was Xbox Game Pass - a multi billion dollar investment that could only work if completely dominated the worldwide gaming market - but it didn't. Instead it changed the culture of Xbox gamers so they resented spending on third party games as they were now trained to expect everything for free. Now all the games Microsoft had invested so much in were not only NOT making money from other platforms, as ever, but they were now NOT EVEN making money from Xbox customers.

If Phil Spencer had just concentrated on making new games and not non-stop gimmicks to beat PlayStation, I genuinely believe the Xbox would be an attractive platform with regular exclusives like Halo but with others too that would give it its distinct identity and maintain a profitable existence. Phil's been in charge for over a decade, the blame lays at his feet.

amazinglover5h ago

Last MS financial results for FY24 Q2 which is the company's sales data through Dec. 31, 2023. According to the earnings, gaming revenue is up 49% year-over-year.

That doesn't sound like he flushing it down the toilet and that also makes very unlikely he loses his job any time soon.

crazyCoconuts5h ago

Revenue up due to acquisition... Spending 10s of billions for new companies of course revenue is up. They don't tell us profits but they wouldn't be shutting down these divisions if they were in the black. Pretty sure they're shifting so radically because their current state has been an abject failure

Scissorman4h ago

This is 100% due to Activision Blizzard. If that deal had not gone through, Xbox revenue would be flat, which means a game like Starfield failed to move the needle.

rlow13h ago

@crazyCoconuts
While I agree that Phil and team have gone back on their word. Especially the last six years of promises.

But I disagree on your logic about the revenue.
They bought the companies to boost their gaming division revenue. In that regard they were very successful. They are owned by MS so your point is moot.

Lightning7711m ago

They made all that money and still doing studio shutdowns...

It's bottomless pit of money MS wants. There's no amount of money MS can make to save their own studios. They're doing it out greed and general incompetence. Calling Phil's head won't mean anything or do anything for MS. They'll still destroy regardless.

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Tacoboto8h ago

Phil needs to go. His time is over. When you oversee layoff after layoff after studio closure after studio closure, it's impossible to keep going forward and have people - employees and fans alike - trust you in any way.

Especially after HiFi Rush hit their metrics. I guess we know what to expect for Ninja Theory next once Hellblade is out, and Machine Games once Indiana's out & Todd Howard focuses back on ES6.

Lightning779m ago(Edited 3m ago)

Ninja Theory won't last after HB2. Because it won't hit some impossible metric in order to be a success at MS.

Expect NT to be gone in a years time also. Where the hells the advertising for Hellblade 2? Another MS issue they do to themselves bunch of clowns.

mastershredder8h ago

It's not just Phil (Phil is just the dumb kid taking the money) and Kotaku is NOT the voice to listen to as shi7 sites like Kotaku helped contribute to modern gaming toxicity and disinformation. Kotaku staff = Much like Phil, and yes need to go.

Moegooner8h ago

MS has been posting record profits, you think they give a crap about games and gamers? Think again.

DOMination-8h ago

What a prat.

People gave him and Matt Booty the benefit of the doubt for a few years due to the mess they inherited but a decade on and all they've done is ruin gaming for everyone.

The only success they've had is MS Flight Simulator which was developed by a third party anyway - and Forza Horizon which by pure coincidence went downhill in quality the second Playground were acquired (imo) and that's all I can think of. Everything else they've touched has been ruined.

It's genuinely staggering how either of these two guys are still there.

Hofstaderman7h ago

Phil didnt even inherit a mess, he was equally responsible for it because he sat on the executive so the kinect and XBONE roadmap vision was also on him. Mattrick was the convenient public scapegoat back then but now theres no one to place the blame on.

Tacoboto7h ago

If they're to keep anyone, I'd hope it would be Sarah Bond. She's at least consistent, constantly doing quick tweets with green emojis where she can, repping the brand, saying the next hardware will be the biggest leap ever (whatever that means).

Phil Spencer openly minimizes Xbox by going out of his way to congratulate competitors and talking about how great playing non-Xbox devices are; if only Xbox had someone that could even pretend to like Xbox for being Xbox.

LoveSpuds7h ago

This is the point I always found frustrating, the whitewashing of Spencers reputation when he got promoted. He was involved in the slide into mediocrity of the 360 generation!

Aloymetal6h ago

The worse is yet to come and their fanbase don't know it yet, someone at MS posted and deleted a tweet saying all their main ''exclusives'' Halo, Forza, Gears etc will be heading to PS soon so grab a front seat ticket and some popcorn and enjoy the show;) The crying will be hilarious.

Notellin6h ago

Yeah he is absolutely responsible for the abysmal state of Xbox. I can't tell Mattrick and Spencer apart at this point. Both have been horrible executives for the Xbox brand.

Lightning775m ago(Edited 4m ago)

Phil's responsible for this generations mess. Phil was the one following orders under Steve Balmer and Don Mattrick.

Don even admitted he messed up on camera with the Xbox documentary

Let's keep the facts straight. Everything currently now is Phil's fault.

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Elite Dangerous: Outrage Sparks as Players Can Buy Ships with Real Money

In a highly controversial decision developer Frontier has made the decision to allow players to buy ships with real money in their long running game Elite: Dangerous, sparking outrage amongst the community.

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2024 Is A Chance At Redemption For Xbox & Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer

Xbox has been lagging behind PlayStation in terms of 1st party content, but 2024 offers the platform and Phil Spencer a chance at redemption.

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isarai32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Nah, that time has passed for many, and with their words on future plans, i really don't see it ever happening.

shinoff218332d ago

It's a wrap. Now is the time they are slowly going to move on as to not to kill the base as is. Titles will slowly drip onto ps and Nintendo consoles, etc. Those 4 already had to of been in development for awhile already cause two of them released really soon after the announcement

VenomUK32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

There is no ‘last chance redemption’ for Phil Spencer - he’s going straight to hell for tanking the Xbox console platform.

_SilverHawk_32d ago

"2024 Is A Chance At Redemption For Xbox & Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer"

I thought that was supposed to be a decade ago

Ironmike31d ago

U do rel7se ps5 is at thr moment only getting g those titles that were mentioned nothing else as of yet

Obscure_Observer32d ago

"Nah, that time has passed for many, and with their words on future plans, i really don't see it ever happening."

Xbox has PLENTY of first party games this year while Playstation has none!

There´s more first party games from Xbox Games Studios on PS5 this year than Playstation Studios own games.

Those are the *facts* and if those facts is not something to Sony be ashamed of, they can´t feel shame at all.

VersusDMC32d ago

Granblue Fantasy versus, FF7REBIRTH, Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade will have launched on PS5 and not on Xbox by the time Hellblade 2 launches.

This only first party games count is cope.

And as a bonus meme...Microsoft will have published 3 first party games on PS5 (Hifi rush, Grounded and sea of thieves) before their first for the year on Xbox(hellblade 2). Glad they have their priorities straight...

lodossrage32d ago

It's funny when people like to say xbox has more games coming to playstation this year than sony does.

YET, they leave out the context that Microsoft literally bought the biggest (Activision) third party publisher and Bethesday (another big one). So congrats on having to buy giants in order to compete?

On topic, wasn't Starfield the "last chance" for redemption?

Am I to assume that if the games they have coming this year don't get positive, feedback then 2025 will be the year of redemption?

Obscure_Observer32d ago

@VersusDMC

"Granblue Fantasy versus, FF7REBIRTH, Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade will have launched on PS5 and not on Xbox by the time Hellblade 2 launches."

None of the games you mentioned are first party. None. There´re more Xbox first party games on PS5 this year then Playstation´s own first party games, undeniable fact!

The real bonus meme is Sea of Thieves a game which PS fanboys used to sh!t on

"And as a bonus meme...Microsoft will have published 3 first party games on PS5 (Hifi rush, Grounded and sea of thieves) before their first for the year on Xbox(hellblade 2). Glad they have their priorities straight..."

Imo, the real meme is Sea of Thieves, a 6 year Xbox first party game which diehard fanboys used to mock and sh!t on, making to the top of the most pre-ordered game at PS Store in a year where Playstation has zero first party games.

https://twitter.com/BenjiSa...

Markusb3332d ago

and all will end up on playstation, and nintendo, if xbox was doing amazing they would not need ps or nintendo, if gp was amazing they wouldnt need pc. PS has multiple first party games in development that we dont know about. Look at how halo was treated, look at redfall, and look at starfield. Its fine to be loyal and prefer one platoform but to be wilfully ignorant about it just ridiculas.

badz14932d ago

LOL se we are moving from "exclusives" to "console exclusives" to now only "1st party exclusives" matters just after MS has bought 2 publishers for $77B??

Moving goalpost to always favor MS i. Your argument is getting tiring! Exclusives are exclusives! 1st or 3rd party, they are still exclusives. You do remember the PS2 literally killed the Dreamcast, Gamecube and the first xbox due to mostly 3rd party exclusives, right?

InUrFoxHole32d ago

Observe is actually correct. Sony paid to play. But we don't mention when they do it. When they do it we're totally cool with it. N4G 4lyfe!

Skuletor32d ago

Are they still counted as first party though?

fr0sty32d ago

“This notion that Xbox can only be this one device that plugs into a television isn’t something we see in the Gen Z research. Because nothing else is like that for them.

Some of them will have an iPhone, some will have an Android, but all the games and everything is the same. I can still get to TikTok on both of them, at least for now." - Phil Spencer

Read it and weep... all Xbox games are coming to as many platforms as they can put them on, and this is the first step towards them getting out of hardware entirely, just like Sega did.

Xbox has been Dreamcast out of the industry. You can deny it all you like, but it's happening.

northpaws32d ago

@Obscure_Observer

You certainly have more faith in Xbox than Phil Spencer does, I will give you that.

rpvenom32d ago

It's actually quite impressive watching you defend xbox. I respect the loyalty

wiz719132d ago

@VersusDMC here yall Sony fans go moving the goalpost again lol now this only first party things is a cope when yall was the one who started that crap in the first place. When Sony had all the first party games and Xbox was relying on third party , yall was shouting they had no first party games. Now the tables turn and suddenly it’s a cope. lol

wiz719132d ago

@lodossrage and so it’s also funny that the majority of Xbox first party games this year aren’t coming from any of those big studios lol except for Indy .. the biggest one this year is coming from a studio that Sony left and almost let that studio die after releasing two big exclusives on their console first. Now MS swoop in and saved them , then here they are with the best looking game this generation. Now that’s ironic , but you mention buying studios like Sony biggest studios weren’t BOUGHT my brother.

Yall need to be more worried about Sony closing studio after studio , the PSVR 2 dying , Sony losing billions , and the fact that yall biggest game this year as in Stellar Blade was once being developed as a multi platform game until Sony paid for them to be a second party studio. lol but you want to mention things being bought , your delusional

Crows9032d ago

Shame in the competitor buying up tons of dev teams in order to make that a reality? Yeah...there's no shame in that on the PlayStation side....

andy8532d ago

So now you're shifting the goal posts so only first party exclusives count. Amazing 😂

Profchaos32d ago

There's probably tons of games exclusive to Xbox that won't be on PS because of their early access clause.

However list the games that count helldivers 2 I'd argue has done more for gaming this year than any other title will.
It could be their only game and it would still be a great year because it was that unexpectedly good even haters of love service games are playing it

TheTony31631d ago

Still at it? Doesn't matter at this point. The games will eventually launch on PS5.

mkis00731d ago (Edited 31d ago )

I see you ignored his" only first party games count" line as if preordained. Is it on xbox? No...then it is ammunition. Meanwhile sony gets to passively soak up 30% of all ms game studios sales.

1Victor31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

@obscured: “There´s more first party games from Xbox Games Studios on PS5 this year than Playstation Studios own games.

Those are the *facts* and if those facts is not something to Sony be ashamed of, they can´t feel shame at all.”
That says more about Xbox than PlayStation that they have to release games on rival consoles to stay afloat, Microsoft and YOU SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED OF THAT FACT.

Edit After thought: it took Microsoft 6 years to finally fix their sea of bugs just in time to release it on PlayStation 🤷🏿

S2Killinit31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

On topic:
MS’s last chance was Starfield…
How many last chances are there?

@Osbscure
You’re moving the goal posts into places that have no basis in reality anymore.

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darthv7232d ago

Life is too short to hold onto grudges. Grudges against a console, game or company is just petty.

isarai32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Has nothing to do with a grudge. Ive been waiting 12yrs for them to get back to their greatness, im done waiting and have moved onto just watching that ship sink as i play on literally every other platform

darthv7232d ago

^^... I still play on it, as well as the other platforms. Which is why I am not someone who dwells on the negativity like others do. there is always something for me to enjoy in this hobby.

isarai32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

@darth

Again, not dwelling on negativity, they legit haven't made anything i want to play since like gears 3 and halo reach. I did play Crackdown 3 and gears 5 cause i had hope given i was a huge fan of the older games, but that was a dud on both cases.

You're thinking it's way deeper than it is 🤣 make something worth playing and ill play it, i was hoping starfield would be that but again, dud.

darthv7232d ago

^^...I never said YOU were doing that... but its obvious others (here) do. Its all they seem to do is dwell on negativity, especially if its XB related. all im saying is there is more to enjoy than there is to complain about. And this is exactly why I play all the platforms instead of just one. You say you do the same... so just enjoy it.

neomahi32d ago

It's fanbots making their last stand in an attempt to save the Xbox, what more can one expect that the most optimism they've ever had. Xbox can't get a lock in Japan, still, and Europe is about to abandon it as well. What're you gonna do? And what happens IF Japanese generates interest? They'll see Europe losing interest and decide it's not worth it either. And it's not just Xbox, Microsoft as a whole is losing their footing. They've backed on subscriptions with everything they have to offer and it's tanking. Xbox needs to port to PlayStation and Nintendo while they can stay relevant and try to stay relevant, the longer they delay, we could see a complete Microsoft nose dive

S2Killinit31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

And you think MS fans are just dandy? Besides, is it a grudge if MS continues to give reasons for people to despise them?

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Markusb3332d ago

when you cant make enough from your own platform and pc and you have to go to ps and nintendo you know its a slow transition to 3rd party publishing, and that is fine. Xb never had the thurst or ambition after the 360

JackBNimble31d ago

The second they decided to put exclusives on the ps5 they blew any chance of redemption

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-Foxtrot32d ago

Even if they managed to get a win this year it dosent overthrow 10 years of mostly disappointments from Phil’s leadership.

RaidenBlack32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Then this way, no company can redeem themselves. The very concept of redemption arc becomes impossible if the past is refused to be forgiven, even if the company manages to better themselves.
Then the now popular redemption arc of No Mans Sky or Phantom Liberty wouldn't exist in the gaming community if the same logic is also applied there.
Not defending anyone here but I want gaming to improve, companies to better themselves and most importantly competition to exist so that we get offered the best products to enjoy.
(I know in typical N4G fashion, this comment will be downvoted to oblivion, but I want good games offered from every studios irrespective of publishers.)

staticall32d ago

@RaidenBlack
IMO, what @-Foxtrot means, one years doesn't mean much. It's a start, yes, but they need more, much more.

Look at your own example, No Mans Sky - they didn't just release one patch and everyone started praising them, no. They've been doing this consistently. If Microsoft will start releasing good games consistently, that'll be great, no ifs and/or buts! But hyping them up in advance (no worthy releases yet is what i mean) - dunno, i might be wrong, but i don't think it's healthy or helps anyone.

rippermcrip32d ago

Your analogies are terrible. A company releasing a single game that failed to meet expectations.

Isn't the same as Phil Spencer making mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake, telling lie after lie after lie after lie for 10+ years.

isarai32d ago

Your whole comparison makes no sense. It literally took years for both of those to "redeem" themselves in the container of a single game. MS has been lacking for 12yrs starting with the halo/gears/forza criticism begining in the latter half of the 360. So even by YOUR logic, he's right, it's gonna take a lot more than one game to be redeemed ESPECIALLY after fumbling what many were already holding as their chance at redemption with starfield

Chevalier32d ago

It's not Playstation or Nintendos fault that Xbox poses no competition. They've had more support and more money behind them than Playstation and Nintendo combined!

You say you aren't defending Xbox, but, you kind of are. Xbox has been completely mediocre for decades. The last time Xbox was competitive was the 360 era. My 360 collection absolutely demolishes my Xbox One collection and so far Series X hasn't had much reason for me to jump to a purchase.

Can you honestly say Xbox is 'competitive'?! I would say not even close.

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Silly Mammo32d ago

With the gaming media, Xbox is always just one game away from redemption and success. It's willful ignorance that they think there's a 'magic bullet' that will somehow erase all the moves by Phil & the gang of the last 2 console generations.

"Well there's always next year!" Should be the official Xbox slogan

Chocoburger31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

100% this Mammo!

They've been screwing up for over a decade! Even if they release a game that's of the highest quality, that's nothing in the grand scheme things.

It also doesn't un-do Kinect (with lies based advertising).

Or Kinect 2 (forcing people to spend $100 extra for something they didn't even want!).

Or releasing two consoles with nothing noteworthy twice in a row (One X, Series S|X).

Or releasing unpolished games such as Re:Core, Sea of Thieves, Halo: MCC, Halo Infinite, Redfall, and Starfield.

Let's not forget canceling games as well such as Scalebound,Project Spark, and the Phantom Dust remake.

Finally let's remember the broken promises of vaporware games, languishing in development Hell, such as Perfect Dark, Fable, Everwild, what else am I forgetting?

Redemption is far far FAR AWAY for Microsoft. It'll take a full decade of only making smart pro-consumer decisions and releasing plenty of amazing games in order to make up for it all.

2024? It ain't gonna do squat on its own.

Rols32d ago

It was the same old story in 2020, 2021,2022 and 2023. XBox has never delivered this gen.

Brazz32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Xbox360, the last time they delivered the goods, over 10 years Ago.

Skuletor32d ago

This headline just reminds me of the "wait 'til E3" comments we'd hear every year, before it was cancelled.

LG_Fox_Brazil32d ago

I wonder if the 2025's version of this article is already written, probably I would say

lodossrage32d ago

That's the same point I was trying to convey when I replied to Obscure

Hofstaderman32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

#wait till e3 2024

Aloymetal32d ago

''2024 Is A Chance At Redemption For Xbox & Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer''
We've been hearing and reading the same crap since the xbone launch, these shills/journos need to come up with something new. Good thing is most gamers know this is all BS, they all read ''"Step right up folks and hold out your money or sub to our service. You don't know what you are going to get, but like always, take our word for it" Signed Lord Phil.

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