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The Order: 1886 review: the best reason yet to buy a PS4 | GQ

GQ: "The Order: 1886 is out on Friday and we think it's reason enough to buy a PS4 to play it."

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Relientk773723d ago

Cannot wait to play this, the wait is almost over

DarkOcelet3723d ago (Edited 3723d ago )

Yup, i will have fun with the game.

One more thing i want to say, i noticed IGN gave it 6.5/10 and remembered they gave Alien Isolation 5/10 so yeah, they can take their reviews and shove it in their butts. I will be enjoying this one.

Btw Alien Isolation was 9/10 from me.

And they gave Evolve a 9/10 . Yeah, go **** yourself.

Bennibop3723d ago

I love alien isolation, so will take a chance I will still enjoy the order.

MasterCornholio3723d ago

Yeah Alien Isolation was a 9\10 for me as well. The game was so stressful that I couldn't play it for more than an hour at a time.

I really dont trust IGN for reviews.

ArchangelMike3723d ago

Yup I loved Alien Isolation, for me it was an 8/10. I'm still getting The Order - if only to support R@D, and here's hoping many other's do so that they are able to iterate in the idea. Unfortunately it almost certainly means that their next game will be multiplayer heavy, hopefully not to the detriment of a solid singleplayer campaign.

aCasualGamer3723d ago

"It packs powerful visuals, intuitive and riotous gameplay"

Intuitive gameplay?

GQ...

That's all you need to read.

Thefreeman0123723d ago

How come like 10 other sites gave it a thumbs down? You just going to be stubborn and say f them too?

jb2273723d ago (Edited 3723d ago )

Also, the bad scores are only coming from larger gaming specific outlets inside the continental U.S. Considering that's the market that MS is always out for, greased palms can't be put out of the realm of possibility. They can't pay off a publication like GQ because regardless of their content, they are actual established journalists w/ things called 'ethics'. Hard to pay those kind of folks off. They wouldn't bother to pay off the foreign press because they don't need those gamers as badly, and they won't pay off the little guys giving good reviews because their reach is typically much smaller. I've never believed in any kind of conspiracy w/in the games industry because I've always assumed it would come to light in some way, but after the whole MS/Polygon fiasco & Gamergate, I think it's fair to say that "gaming journalism" involves some of the former but none of the latter. I haven't played the game yet obviously so the concerns mentioned in these reviews could be very real, but you really can't deny the weird coincidences when all of the scores are spread out right in front of you & only a very specific section is reporting w/ eerily similar low scores.

Bobby Kotex3723d ago

Alien got an 81 on metacritic.. but go ahead and drink the koolaid.

ninsigma3723d ago

@arch

I would imagine for a sequal they would put more gameplay in it. That's assuming it's true that there's little gameplay. I don't quite believe that myself and I refuse to watch videos. Ill be getting it first thing tomorrow morning and I've the day off work so I'll know by then! Despite so unpleasant reviews and ridiculous comments from "gamers", i'm very excited for the game! :D

some online would be good for a sequal too though. But not the standard team 1 vs team 2. Something different that goes against the norm. Although I guess you could have werewolves vs knights, that would be interesting!

WelkinCole3723d ago

It's becoming clear to me there is going to be a split in the gaming community.

I think it is a long time coming but I see it now. Not just along the line of consoles but also between modern young gamers and old time gamers like me.

I played since the Atari days and such I grew up loving simple and then eventually SP focused games with the SNES,PS1 and PS2. It is why I love Indie games a lot as well because they mostly remind me of Atari-SNES era.

Now with a full time job and a family I honestly don't have time to grind through a game 5 hours a day for 6-7 days a week like most young gamers can either by themselves or online.

SP focused games like these is exactly they type of game that suits me and is my preference as well.

I have looked at most of the reviews that are negative and I can see clearly that they cater exactly to young modern gamers preference. To them 5 hours a day gaming is nothing. For me 5 hrs a day gaming is madness.

The previews and now the reviews have just confirmed exactly what I have been suspecting.

These sites are completely incompatible with my gaming tastes nowdays.

I have the game and I have been playing it the last couple of hours and to me it is exactly what I was expecting and exactly the game I wanted

Alien Isolation yes was another example. It's a type of gaming that old time gamers like me would love but young modern gamers that want instant gratification would hate. Demon souls etc.

I feel sad because I think I am a dying breed and such the games that are for me will no longer be made in the long run. I am 36 years old and I have been gaming since I was 5. 31 glorious gaming years.

marlinfan103723d ago (Edited 3723d ago )

That's one site. didn't alien isolation end up at almost an 80 metascore? It's a 78 or 79 if I'm not mistaken, the orders been sitting around a 65.

seanpitt233723d ago

You will not be dissapointed it's a great game got it today. This game is a solid 9/10

theshonen88993723d ago

Hold on, forget about the game itself for a moment. Has anyone noticed that this article is literally 80% GIANT pictures and 20% text? I'm pretty sure I could have wrote more than this in middle school.

Letthewookiewin3723d ago

Ya Dark, Alien was a 9 also, it did go a little to long but... Holy crap the atmosphere and tension was incredible. Also can't wait to play The Order tomorrow!

UnHoly_One3722d ago

You guys are putting too much trust on the review number system, I think.

IGN gave a game a 5, when you thought it was a 9, so now you assume that every game that is in the 5-6 range is going to be good?

That doesn't add up to me.

You need to keep in mind that these sites have multiple people reviewing games and that sometimes a game may just get reviewed by the one guy that doesn't like it.

Or vice versa. Maybe the guy that got Evolve just loves that type of game.

You just can't put that kind of cold mathematical relationship on review scores, it doesn't work that way.

G20WLY3722d ago

^Unholy, his deduction appears to be that IGN could possibly be crooked, or - as a site - have very different tastes to his own.

I agree with Dark. My opinions rarely seem to match IGN.

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remixx1163723d ago

Wow you guys getting some mean disagrees, looks like peoplejust don't want you to have fun with the game.

DarkOcelet3723d ago

I learned not to give a crap about the haters. I will have fun :) .

KnownAsEpic3723d ago

Yep! I cant wait to pick up my premium edition

AtariFanboy3723d ago

Why buy a PS4 when you can play it for free on Youtube?

Jaevicious3723d ago

That's where I will be playing it.....

blackblades3723d ago

Can't believe people agreeing with this comment. You can't play it on YouTube you can watch but not play a big difference.

bananaboats3723d ago

obviously, he making a joke just incase you didnt know.

Doletskaya3723d ago

A big difference? Not for this game.

Master-H3723d ago

Why buy any gaming console/PC when you can do the exact same thing with every game ever released/will be released ?

Lenns3723d ago

How do you not get the joke? He's saying since the game is mostly cutscenes and QTE, there's no difference whether you are playing it on the ps4 or watching it on YouTube

ndrliang13723d ago

I cancelled my preorder. I don't think I've ever seen a game with such a wide spread of reviews. I've seen 2/10 to 9/10. I want to play this, but I figure the price will drop pretty quick and I hope I can pick it up soon cheap... if you get it tomorrow I hope you enjoy it!

ninsigma3723d ago

I think you could be waiting a while for the price to drop. Games these days just don't drop that quickly :/ Even with negative press. The likes of Assassin creed unity is still full price and that was a mess. Maybe you could get someone to shareplay it so you can get a feel for the game that way!

Cobberwebb3723d ago

What? AC: Unity (X1) is around £12 on CDKeys.com, and it has been for a while.

LamerTamer3723d ago

There is always ebay or other outlets.

I will be waiting for this to hit the bargain bin too. Just not allot of meat on the bones with this game. Short and allot of cutscenes.

UnHoly_One3722d ago

Wait for them to give it away with PS+.

That's what I plan to do.

Der_Kommandant3723d ago

The best reason to buy a PS4 it's called Bloodborne.

SoapShoes3723d ago

Yeah and what if the hate train comes for that game too and critics don't like it or it's mixed like this game?

ArchangelMike3723d ago

Exactly my thoughts. Gamers are surrendering their right to free thinking, and are being led by the media.

Der_Kommandant3723d ago

Miyazaki is behind it, the game will be a masterpiece.

spicelicka3723d ago

I have not come across any hate towards Bloodborne, and it's prequels have all been critically acclaimed, so there's no reason for it to get bad reviews. The Order is a new IP and it has nothing to do with free thinking, if the game isn't good then you accept that.

^And stop making it look like a conspiracy by the media. No one has a reason to give Order bad reviews other than actually playing it and finding it not good enough.

StrawberryDiesel4203723d ago

That's the difference. The media loves Miyazaki so the game will get universal love, guaranteed. Plus, lots of rabid souls fans out there like myself.

SonyPS3603722d ago

All those downvotes for a very valid question.

Plug your ears everyone, you can't hear him!

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Rimeskeem3723d ago (Edited 3723d ago )

How Xbox players see it: bad game look at all the bad Reviews

How playstation players see it: good game look at all the good review

Truth: it's getting very mixed reviews and is completely opinion based. Currently has a ~65 on meta critic which means it's very mixed

Immorals3723d ago

I was waiting for this game to pick up a ps4. By the time I have gathered the money, hopefully this game will be reduced.

Gonna be some real eye candy!

ShowanW3723d ago

It's not that at all..

it's the double-standards...

I'll use Ryse as an example.. This is all you read on the internet:

Look at the QTE Fest
The game isn't that long (it's looks to be longer than 1866)
It only has looks.

PS4 now has a game along the same lines.. But now the justification is coming out of the woodworks...

Im a PS4 and One owner...

Ryse is actually a good fun game to play...

Lets hope TO:1866 is as well

Rimeskeem3723d ago

No..... I could barely watch some play Ryse. It got way to repetitive.

ShowanW3723d ago

@sckipt...

Most critics says that TO:1866 keeps on using the same assets as well. That much doesn't change except the buildings or whatever...

This game can be fun to (hopefully)...

RAD should of added Co-Op Campaign to this game..
TO:1866 screams co-op campaign...

StrawberryDiesel4203723d ago

I wholeheartedly agree with this comment, very well said. I too own both and found Ryse to be a very entertaining game with a unique setting and visceral combat. Hopefully The Order follows suit.

LamerTamer3723d ago

No they shouldn't have added co-op. Then it would have just been a short game with co-op.

Not every game needs online MP. What they should have added was more levels and gameplay elements.

ShowanW3722d ago

@LamerTamer...

TO:1866 screams campaign co-op...

Not strictly MP where players blast each other, but a true co-op where 2+ players can play the entire story at the same time. Get all the same achievements, etc.

The whole campaign as a team would be a blast.

How many games do that now a days?....

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UnHoly_One3722d ago

I'm primarily an Xbox player, and I really wanted this game to be good.

I wanted a good PS4 exclusive, because I still don't have one. I am not a Killzone fan, and I thought Infamous was a terrible disappointment after how much I loved the first two.

So I was rooting for this game from day one.

But I've been very skeptical for a very long time based on what they've shown.

By the time we got close to release I was fully expecting it to just be plain terrible.

Leading up to release I was shocked how many people were still convinced it was going to be amazing, and I'm a little surprised we are seeing any reviews at all in the 9 range.

SonyPS3603722d ago

Or it has nothing to do with stupid console fanboys and it's just not as great as it was hyped up to be.

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The Order: 1886, a Ten Year Reunion

WTMG's Leo Faria: "After finally playing the now decade-old The Order: 1886, what do I think about it? Is it really worthy of all the hate it has received over the past decade? Or is it some kind of hidden gem? I honestly think it falls somewhere in the middle. I loved the setting, the story is initially fine, the combat isn’t half-bad, and the potential for some awesome world building was there. It was all bogged down by too much ambition against a tight deadline, as well as poor marketing. As a result, it’s short, full of plotholes, infested with QTEs, and not exactly memorable as a whole. As a game you can grab for less than ten bucks today, I absolutely think it’s worth checking out. It’s one hell of a wasted potential, but for such a discount, I had some fun with it, and I’m sure you will too."

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SimpleSlave69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Great setting, great graphics, even decent gun play, but what a trash of a game. The fuck were these people thinking? We could've had something like an Alan Wake 2 meets Mass Effect 2 style game. With investigations, creepy locations to uncover and explore, people to talk to and even recruit, clues to uncover and connect, monsters to slay, side quests to get lost in, and a more expansive lore to go with it.

Instead we got a shitty AAAAAAAAA Third Person Pew Pew snoozfest. Awesome.

_SilverHawk_69d ago

The order 1886 was one of the best games I played on ps4. Within a top 5 best ps4 games I'd put the last of us 2, the order 1886, days gone, horizon zero dawn and God of war.

SimpleSlave68d ago

"The order 1886 was one of the best games I played on ps4. Within a top 5 best ps4 games..."

Jesus H. Christ, bud. You just sound like a Sony apologist. What the fuck? Anyways. Good luck with that or whatever.

coolbeans68d ago

God. The "what could've been" you're describing would've been way better than just being the most empty cinematic shooter slop of that generation.

SimpleSlave68d ago

Right? I mean, I can understand people enjoying this thing ironically. Knowing that it sucks but still enjoying it for what it is. I get that. That's fine. We all have our guilty pleasure no doubt. But to come here and actually pretend that this is a top 5 PS4 game? Wow!

To pretend that this barely there game is anything more than an "empty cinematic shooter slop of that generation," as you said, is beyond ridiculous. But I guess Self-Awareness is some expensive ass DLC still.

Espangerish68d ago

I really enjoyed this game and also think it was one of the best PS4 games. It’s weird to me that this makes you so angry. I’m not a Sony fan at all by the way, very much pc player.

SimpleSlave68d ago

"and also think it was one of the best PS4 games"
"I’m not a Sony fan at all by the way, very much pc player."

Yeah, OK. You want to lie to yourself? You do you, bud. But like I said to the other Sony apologist, "good luck with that or whatever."

-Foxtrot68d ago

Jesus, it had some flaws but you're acting like it was unplayable.

It built a foundation, a rocky one but a sequel is where they could have refined things.

Personally my only issue is I feel like the "Gears of War" like over the shoulder gameplay, especially getting into cover and the like didn't really fit the game as much. In Gears you understand that kind of gameplay because they are wearing super heavy amour and guns but in the Order these guys are super human, they should feel more of a breeze to control, easily jumping over things and being allowed to climb whatever similar to Uncharted.

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Inverno69d ago

Im back again to simp for The Order, if ya like games well grounded in their reality with consistency in everything it does then I recommend it if ya haven't played it. Play it thru emulation or on your PS it don't matter just play it.

1nsomniac69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

A great game run down by the media for it's price vs length - Which was understandable, but it shouldn't of been the be all and end all.

At the right price this was a great game & deserved a sequel!

thorstein69d ago

Exactly. What a weird metric that suddenly was important and then, within a few months, no longer mattered.

andy8569d ago

I enjoyed this. I think the complaints were the length if I remember. Nothing wrong with a short good game, at least to physical copy owners 😅

Rebel_Scum69d ago

Put the thing on PS plus already!

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The Order: 1886 Dev Pitched a Sequel to Sony, But Was Denied

Co-founder thinks bad reviews were to blame.
Ready at Dawn co-founder has revealed the now-shuttered studio pitched a sequel to PS4 exclusive The Order: 1886 to Sony, but was denied the chance to make it.

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_SilverHawk_79d ago

I can't believe sony turned down a sequel to the order 1886 which ended basically on a cliffhanger. The game is amazing and I would love a ps5 pro enhanced version just like I'd like a driveclub ps5 pro enhanced version.

DodoDojo78d ago

About 2 million sales and not the greatest of reviews, I can believe it.

Tbh there's a lot of dormant Sony exclusives that are more deserving of a sequel.

ravens5278d ago

Have you played it? Just curious.

ABizzel178d ago (Edited 78d ago )

2 million probably wasn’t enough to make a strong profit on, and the mid reviews didn’t help, even though it was a solid game just short, and could have expanded way more on the creature mythos.

Days Gone: +7 million / mid reviews (no sequel)
Infamous SS: 6 million / mid reviews (no sequel)
Killzone SF: +2 million (4 mo.) / mid reviews (no sequel)
Driveclub: +2 million (2015 / leaks say 5m) / mid reviews (no sequel)

Basically it looks like for the PS4 generation budgets were getting out of control and Sony made the decision

sales + reviews - budget = sequel or no sequel

goken78d ago

Whatever the number, can’t be worst than concord

SimpleDad78d ago

Glad that Alloy Lego is doing great.

Toecutter0078d ago

Two million in sales for a new IP is pretty impressive. The world-building was in a class on its own. Any moron could see this IP had mad potential and the fact that Sony balked on it makes one question their competence and leadership.

Cacabunga77d ago

Nothing to do with sales. It’s all about the broken vision that Sony is having lately.
Days Gone sold great but they still don’t want a sequel to it.
Sony wants Easy money and they saw it in gaas and lazy games like lego horizon and countless remasters..

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pwnmaster300078d ago (Edited 78d ago )

Idky you can’t believe it.
This game was shitted on by everyone besides some PS fans.

Don’t blame Sony on this one. Blame everyone who wanted to see this burn. Sony does a lot of stupid shit with their IP and waste a lot of them like bloodborne and days gone, but don’t be surprised with this one.

Outside_ofthe_Box78d ago

Exactly. I came to post exactly this. The game was torn apart upon release. It's not shocking that a sequel was denied.

S2Killinit78d ago

Not “upon” release. There was a whole campaign “prior” to release.

In my opinion they should have made it a bit less linear and it would have been great. I did enjoy it. But the reception it got makes sense that Sony wouldnt want to risk a sequel if it was going to open up a can of worms with people who wanted the first one to fail.

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Christopher78d ago

I played the game. I 100% believe Sony turned down a sequel.

blackblades78d ago

Well pretty obvious when it was left on a cliffhanger. Many sequels get turned from companies as someone else said above blame the SOB's that always whining.

Sabbath131378d ago

i 100% agree with you, both of those games were amazing

Bathyj78d ago

What's so hard to believe? Don't you remember this game was crucified by the media.. it was DOA. It's a shame because it was a really fresh new IP it was gorgeous and a play really well . it had some issues but it wasn't the only game with qte repeated bosses and a playtime under 10 hours.

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mkis00778d ago (Edited 78d ago )

It was panned because of the graphics hype. Kind of similar to Ryse and hellblade 2...although the story was pretty interesting in all 3.

As a matter of fact I think Indy's success is partially due to the fact the graphics were not hyped up pre launch.

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-Foxtrot79d ago

It’s strange though Sony would be so proud about their work and overall quality but wouldn’t give them an extra year to, give them that quality.

Anyway he talks about if it was in the 70s they’d have had their sequel but Days Gone is at 71 on Metacritic and we don’t have a sequel.

Both games should have one, I think they deserve a second chance at refining and building onto that foundation already laid out.

neutralgamer199278d ago (Edited 78d ago )

Definitely days gone 2 should happen. Who knows maybe now Sony will let them make it since bend had to cancel its live service game. Days gone 2 for PS6 sounds amazing

As far as order 1886 sequel it would be have been interesting. I think if this game was a RPG with 15 hour story it would have done so much better. Don't get me wrong game is great but you can tell the potential is there if they were allowed to make some drastic changes

Sadly this new Sony is not the PlayStation they are suits and spreadsheet guys. Playstation has lost its touch with gamers. I miss Shawn jack Andrew house etc

At the launch of PS4 Playstation was at its full strength with gamers running the company but not anymore. No we have a guy who loves horizon above every thing else and is willing to fund projects based on that IP

Redemption-6478d ago

So an IP that actually sell? Sony moved away from the type of games you saw during the launch of the PS4 because many gamer didn't support them. I hear people crying more about say Japan Studio closing than actually supporting their games when they were open. Wasn't it shawn layden who said many of these games fail and you hope a few like horizon to make up for the failed games. Maybe if gamers actually supported these games there would be more of them. Shocking right?

Redemption-6478d ago

There is no sequel for Days Gone because it didn't sell. The director himself said "If you love a game, buy it at f****** full price. I can't tell you how many times I've seen gamers say 'yeah, I got that on sale, I got it through PS Plus, whatever'.”

Majority of the sales from days gone came from when it was heavily discounted, and I have seen many gamers say they will not pay full price or the game isn't worth full price, but they will buy it when it's discounted. Yet they get triggered when the studio decides to move away from a game they refused to support at full price

jwillj2k478d ago (Edited 78d ago )

What this is showing is that the majority of people don’t like the price. It doesn’t mean they don’t like the game. Two different dimensions.

Example: The company Take Two took advantage by selling NBA 2K at $20, completely undercutting NBA live to become the most popular basketball game. High priced games isn’t the only way they can make money.

-Foxtrot78d ago

Well. If we are going to go off that director apparently Days Gone hit 8 million sales around the same time frame that Ghost of Tsushima later did.

https://x.com/JakeRocket/st...

One was considered a failure, the other a massive success so I don't think it just boils down to sales.

Redemption-6478d ago

@Foxtrot

Hey, maybe you clearly know more than the director/writer. If memory serves me right, Days Gone went on sale faster than Ghost. Also, please know budget is a major factor. There is a huge difference between Ghost with a budget of $60M selling 8M, vs Days Gone, with a budget of $250M selling 8M after major price cut. One can be considered a success, because it had a much lower budget.

Don't Complain If a Game Doesn’t Get a Sequel” If You Didn’t Buy It “At F-cking Full Price, clearly shows the game didn't make the money it needed to make within the time frame it needed

Redemption-6478d ago

@jwillj2k4

What is shows is majority of gamers didn't think Days Gone was worth the $60 price tag and clearly Sony agrees with them. You can like a game, but if you don't think it is worth the price tag, why do you complain when the company decides to not invest in a game you don't think is worth what they are charging? They should release the game, lose money, cut the price and then you will support it?

jwillj2k476d ago

Reading is fundamental. I said start with a reduced price not cut the price after you’ve already released it. It was an example to show how there are other ways they couldn’t make money. The idea is that number of buyers is much greater at $20 than $60. I didn’t think I had the point that out to you.

Redemption-6476d ago (Edited 76d ago )

@jwillj2k4

The number of buyers being greater at $20 than $60 does not equate to more money. You literally have to sell 2-3 times more to makeup the difference. Starting with a reduced price for an AAA that costs say $250M is pure stupidity and again would have to sell 2-4 times more depending on the reduced price break even. Or include micro transactions. They can make it into a free live service game with mtx. Yeah, you are right, maybe they should follow the route 2K NBA took

Clearly many don't think the game is worth $60. Who knows maybe the remaster can give it hope. But it would be funny if they get a sequel and people refuse to buy it at full price. Highly doubt those who think the game isn't worth 60, will be lining up for 70.

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S2Killinit78d ago

Days Gone deserved so much better than 71. I’ve noticed that some PlayStation games get attacked and it feels generated. Like money is behind the hate campaign.

-Foxtrot78d ago

Days Gone was that one game which wasn't really attacked by gamers but by journalists.

As soon as it was revealed they really didn't like it for some reason, it was made out to be because it came across as a generic looking open world game or another generic "zombie" game but at the time we had plenty of open world games and a fair few "zombie/infected" games that these journalists didn't bad an eyelid towards.

When the game released broken before the Day One patch it just gave these journalists a massive excuse to slaughter the game in their reviews.

On one hand, a game shouldn't have released in that broken state or at least they shouldn't have given journalists a copy without the Day One patch HOWEVER these are the same journalists who usually gloss over that kind of stuff with so many other games, take Star Wars Outlaws for example, the game was a buggy, broken mess at launch with plenty of issues, bad AI, some clear performance issues and a lot of quality of life improvements needed but it still did a lot better than Days Gone at launch.

Personally I think they knew they could get away with it more because Sony Bend weren’t that high up and respectable, they knew calling their game out as much as they did wouldn't hit them with any major consequences unlike if they hypothetically were like this towards NaughtyDog, Sony Santa Monica or Insomniac.

RaidenBlack78d ago

Yea and there was/is a PC version of 1886 too in 2016 ... but now maybe collecting dust in some dev's hardrive.

Relientk7778d ago

That's lame. It's not perfect, definitely a flawed game, but deserves a sequel. You already have the first game as a starting point just need to improve upon it. This could have been a much better sequel like the jump from Assassin's Creed to Assassin's Creed 2. The IP has potential.

S2Killinit78d ago

But Assassins Creed sold a lot.

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Looking Back, The Order: 1886 Not Spawning A Franchise Is Absolutely Tragic

The Order: 1886 is a "hidden gem" PlayStation exclusive that had a lot going for it back in the day. Unfortunately, it did not have a future.

thorstein193d ago

The amount of online vitriol, even here on N4G, overwhelmed it. Execs use user and critics ratings too much.

It's a great game. Polished, few, if any bugs at launch. The ending made me think there would be DLC that would make the game episodic.

At the time, it was the "game to hate" and so much hatebait was written about it. Facts, as always, didn't matter.

z2g193d ago (Edited 193d ago )

The game wasn’t good. Period. It should have been counted as a fitness app, bc 80% of the game was just smashing buttons as fast as you could. The other 15% was walking on a rail thru a world you couldn’t actually explore, and the remaining 5% was actual fun gameplay.

The negativity you speak of that “overwhelmed the release” of the game was the simple fact that people were extremely disappointed with it. Not fun. Not engaging. Boring. Felt like a Disney attraction. It scored a 63 on MC. It’s like people were just being honest about a Sony exclusive that for once wasn’t at the level of others.

Sometimes it’s just as simple as ththat game not being that good. Nothing more, nothing less. I owned that game personally. After the first 3x playing it, it was hard to actually want to play it… so I stopped.

Pepsi_Man3000193d ago

Lol did the game kill your grandma or something?

Good-Smurf193d ago

I'm still replaying The Order 1886 on PS5 and never find any part the game that requires you button mashing.
I guess you're playing and talking on completely different game.
You won't be getting far in this game at all if you're 80% of the time button mashing it.

cbuc1125193d ago

Where exactly did the game touch you z2g? 🤣

RedDevils193d ago

@Pepsi I'm surprise it didn't.

anast193d ago

Don't play the game, instead, gather reddit's greatest hits and post on n4g.

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RaidenBlack193d ago

On other note, that wonderful game engine's gone ... and now if any new studio do pickup the IP, sequel'll be an UE one.
Ready at Dawn also had a PC port ready, shown off at SIGGRAPH 2015 running at 60fps. Shame that maybe gone as well, if not somebody leaks it 5-6 years later.

Lightning77193d ago

Interesting. Y'all love this short linear experience but hated HB2 short linear experience? What's the difference again?

thorstein193d ago (Edited 193d ago )

Incorrect. I loved HB, HB2, and The Order.

It's not an either/ or.

StormSnooper192d ago

Wasn’t it longer than the original Gears of War? The hate on this game started before people got to play it.

Lexreborn2193d ago

There are several games that fit this narrative. Games aren’t being broken down critically, they are being broken down initially. If the initial trailer or dev interviews don’t fit certain groups interest. Those groups go to insane levels to crap on it, all the while using a game that they want as a standard as if somehow their hate spawned said game.

You will see people talk about how game A that released in January of current calendar year is everything no one asked for. Then talk as if game B that was coming out the same time is the right path even if it released in a month later.

But the whole time screaming Game A will kill game B, but the truth is the people wanting game B killed A only because they were afraid game B won’t get more games like it. However, their is absolutely no shortage of variable games just the hindsight of fearful people that others enjoying something different then them means they won’t be catered to anymore.

It’s a trash thought process that leaves plenty of franchises being buried and not allowed to grow

just_looken192d ago

It was the best out of alot of those new ip tech demos remember that xbox one with a roman theme?

I agree it felt like a dlc ending the lore building/story also seemed like in the background they were gearing up for a series.

Like driveclub sony just killed it instead of expanding on it making more cash.

Profchaos192d ago

I feel like we were spoiled for choice when it came out and bigger games overshadowed it I didn't play it until about 6 months ago but it was a decent game

Michiel1989192d ago

you're confusing "game to hate" with "not getting 9.5's all over the board" and if it actually was as good as you're trying to make it out to be, it's on sony for not greenlighting the sequel. Can't really blame people for not liking it and having their own opinion about it, but yeah same excuse train as Days Gone to no one's surprise.

Absolutely ridiculous that everytime a ps exclusive fails the ranch always makes it seem to be that it was only outside factors that made it fail, except with Concord you couldn't do that cause it was just too bad and too big of a flop. Sony had all the cards here, if they saw potential in it they could have greenlit a sequel, but either they didn't or they just wanted better sales from a different IP, either way it's only Sony's fault that there's no sequel.

StormSnooper192d ago (Edited 192d ago )

They hated on it hard. It was unjust criticism for the most part and started prior to its release.

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Obscure_Observer193d ago

It was probably for the best.

If a sequel for that game was released today, many idiots would be calling it woke garbage.

thorstein193d ago

I was thinking of adding that to my comment above.

Well observed.

Michiel1989192d ago

they said that about HZD and Aloy as well and yet that game got 9+ all over the board, nice try. what's next, Haze was a masterpiece as well and was just misunderstood? the awful fps, gameplay and story was just mimicking the trip you got in the game from the drugs you injected?

ANIALATOR136193d ago

Can't see any reason why "many idiots" would call it woke. It was perfectly fine story-wise.

Npugz7193d ago

It’s a shame they never continued this game I absolutely loved it

Popsicle193d ago (Edited 193d ago )

Never had the chance to play this. In 2014 my budget was much tighter and I planned to purchase, but the reviews talked me out of taking the plunge. I was more trusting of reviews at the time. Maybe at $10 and at only 8 hours, it is worth taking the time to try it.

To those that have played it, do you think it is a fun game in 2024?

Espangerish193d ago

I replayed it just last year. Fun to play old school linear adventure. To me its a nice change from the current trend of massive open world and gaas games.Visually still looks good even by todays standards.

Psychonaut85193d ago (Edited 193d ago )

Absolutely. For like $10 it’s a no brained. A ton of what killed it wasn’t that it was bad, it was that it wasn’t enough for $60. It has a few issues, but at $10 it’s brilliant.

Inverno193d ago

The media hate campaign caused these guys to end up at FB making nothing until their eventual shut down. Over what? The game being too short? The game being linear? As if the standard at the time wasn't linear! Uncharted was practically leading the whole industry into making linear cinematic games. Do some proper research and you'll find that the game isn't actually 7 hours long, it's more or less the same length as U2/U3 which everybody scored mear perfect. So what was the reason really?

isarai193d ago (Edited 193d ago )

It was really just released at the wrong time, when it was released everyone wanted everything to be some online gaas thing cause that was new and the Destiny hype train was going full speed. Literally every review rags on the fact that it has no online features. If it were released now it would be appreciated much more

Inverno193d ago

Which is ironic cause it was around that time that people no longer wanted tacked on MP on mostly SP games. The other thing is what pisses me off the most, and it still happens today. Games are being reviewed with expectations that when they aren't met they get lower scores. But that's applied for some games while others get a pass, it's ridiculous.

mandf193d ago

You’re right about everything but u2 and u3 were not under 15 hours long screw your skipped cut scenes and avoid everything play through

Inverno193d ago

You bring up another thing that's also pretty common for reviewers to do. They skip thru games on easy missing a good chunk of content. That sort of stuff makes games significantly longer and is part of the overall experience, and The Order also had collectables. I was simply just counting the hours Uncharted takes in a first playthrough where most would likely focus on the story and not deviate from that.

mandf193d ago

Inferno no worries that’s how they view linear games. Start to finish the order took me 15 hours of enjoying my first play through 7 hours make it seem like they never even played it and most sheep just parrot the lie

Michiel1989192d ago

yall are crazy, if the devs add an easy mode for the game, its totally fair for the game to be reviewed on that difficulty or did they add an easy mode so players get a bad experience? then it's not on the reviewer but on the devs.otherwise there should be no easy mode or it should have been harder.

The audacity of: your opinion is not valid because we are better at the game than you is so stupidly crazy. If your online identity stops revolving around a plastic box you can maybe see some nuance. So you can only review games now if you play them on the highest difficulty, so can you also only review Starcraft 2 if you're in the top 10 players of the world? I wonder who on here gave an opinion about God of War 3 but didn't finish it on chaos mode, they can't really give a valid opinion about it then if they only played it on hard, damn noobs.

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