The italian press misses another opportunity to talk about videogames withoud preconceptions.
You'd think they would't mind after their former Prime Minister Berlusconi's antics: http://www.topnews.in/law/f... What a playa
"degrading women" and somehow they were less offended by 3rd degree torture to man, or a man's implied rape, or a man getting his skull crushed by a boot in full graphic detail,or a man getting drugged and robbed by his own family and still welcoming them back?
Pretty sure I've seen everyone degraded in GTA :) the stereotypes implemented everywhere and the rampant satire are what give the game depth, it's rockstars style.
I see all these articles about GTA degrading women on the internet but have yet to actually meet a woman in my life that has a problem with the GTA games, most just find it amusing and fun, heck GTA V is one of my girlfriend's favorite games. Most woman i know just laugh at how ridiculous and over the top some aspects are, it's basically just a giant parody of real life and should be taken that way. Some people take things too seriously.
"Italian newspaper Repubblica vs GTA V: "degrading women is not a game" " just like bitching about video games aint journalism. surely there are more pressing matters in the world right now than 'degrading' video games...?
Come on, it's freedom of speech. Everything is allowed, and degrading women is one of it. Freedom of speech is built on extremely solid rules that you will never find contradictions in them. /s
A couple things, GTA doesn't degrade women, yes GTA has Nudity in it, but that is not degrading, 2nd it doesn't even have any female nudity in it (correct me on that if I'm wrong), only male nudity, 3rd, this has nothing to do with stupid freedom of speech, also 4th Freedom of speech comes with responsibility, it's not some get out of jail free card, e.g, if you go about shouting offensive Racial language, I.E the N word in the streets, you'l get locked up & rightfully so, in any rational 1st world country. I find it funny here, how some people are just attacking Italy here instead of tackling the real issue at hand, That GTA Doesn't degrade women
Negative expressions aren't "contradictions" to freedom of speech, if that's what you're implying.
But society degrade Men all the time. SMH
Clearly 2 individuals have been living under a rock for the last 10+ years. Men are laughed at and disrespected all the time in the modern media and sitcoms. Might be one of the reasons action movies like lotr, x-men and batman marvel ect... Are as popular as they are in addition to maintaining a fanbase over the years. It's probably some of the few instances were men aren't clueless imbeciles, whose world would crumble into dust. If not for their more intelligent wives/girlfriends or female coworkers, that are clearly better than them. It's sad that we have to rely upon purely fictional movies or stories ect, to find respectable male figures to guide younger generations of men for the future. NiteX The question that is never addressed is why should men just take it.
What a joke article. Italian men degrade women more than anybody, and their daytime television programs objectify women more than anywhere else I've been or seen. And that's nothing to say about what they have on at night. If you're looking to the Italians for your moral compass....you're doing it wrong.
Gotta say, their tv programs do do that. I was surprised at some of the stuff they were showing at day time. But that last sentence of yours seems way ott.
But what will the chavs play... Degrading women, violence and foul language is 'mature', right? 1 professional newspaper article won't stop GTA, its about 100 million chavs strong.
Yup, GTA is played by chavs and chavs alone....right.. Your monocle is slightly dirty btw.
And here I thought it was all racist hillbillys.
I thought for sure that it was [insert offensive stereotype].
I hope that was a sarcastic comment. There is nothing wrong with GTA (it's just a game) or with playing the game.
"Degrading women, violence and foul language is 'mature', right?" Are you just ignorant or are you really that dense to understand that a "mature" rating doesn't mean that doing these actions is mature, but rather you should be a "mature" person before being subjected to these actions so you can differentiate its appropriateness in context and society. Seriously how did you make it this far in life thinking that "mature" content was done by people considered to be mature, rather than the person viewing the content needs to be mature enough to know what is and isn't appropriate when a subject arises?
He's a Nintendo fanboy that thinks that insulting games with sex and violence as "immature" will make him look super mature and meta.
Yet degrading the law system there is perfectly normal. So much that Mr. "Mafia" Berlusconi gets away with almost everything since he changed the rules to aid his ilegal doings while he was in charge. They have much bigger problems in Italy that should be taken care of.
But, Italy thought us all how to degrade women.... starting with Berlusconi and under aged prostitutes..... double standards here!
The good thing about a video game is that if anyone finds it offensive, they can just stop playing the game. Sell or delete the title, and they never have to worry about it again from that source. No one will ever get rid of every source so fighting any of them is pointless. Just accept that different people think differently (WHAT!?) and choose wisely who you socialize with. This is just someone with double standards for men and women. A man getting raped or tortured is fine just don't let it be a woman.
"Isn't a game" - it is if you make rules and keep score.
"Get back in the kitchen!" *Ding* /Times up! Put your degradations down/ SilentNegotiator: 51 Challenger: 50 "YEESSSS!!"
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@SilentNegotiator Yes, if by being a Nintendo 'fanboy' you mean I have enjoyed Nintendo efforts as a developer and hardware manufacturer more than 'rival' developers over the many years, then yes, please label me a fanboy. Seems enjoying Nintendo's efforts these days is akin to being a Christian during Roman times, well, sort of. Similar to not being a fan of GTA, Assassins Creed and COD is like denouncing God. Not every game (or console) which sells best equals a better quality product. You won't need to look far for proof.
By Nintendo fanboy, I meant Nintendo fanboy. One that drags out a bunch of old Nintendo fanboy tropes, like calling M rated games "immature" (in this case, for a game that is satirical in those exact elements - going to show just how shallow your analysis is). And of course you're pretending like COD, AC, and GTA are the only third party games, just like all Nintendo fanboys trying to downplay PS4/Xbone's incredible third party support. But comparing yourself to Christians in the Roman empire to liking Nintendo games and choosing to downplay third party games...that's a surprise. A hilarious one at that. lol
Yes, incredible 3rd party support, I agree. Doesn't necessarily mean the majority of these games won't be trite, shallow and unpolished. I know what to expect with Nintendo by now. Poor 3rd party support whilst waiting - what seems like an age - for the next big 1st party title to arrive. Thing is, I keep sticking with Nintendo because the benefits (for me) far outweigh the negatives. The positives outside of Nintendo is massive developer support...doesn't (in my experience) equal quality.
Well you definitely won't get an M for mature.
Weird, I don't remember throwing any Nintendo fans to the lions for a show or stoning, hanging, or burning them. I must have missed that reality TV show. I also don't remember anything bad happening to Bill Nye or Stephen Fry who denounce God all the time in very public and blasphemous forms... I think you need to grow up, maybe put the controller down, go back to school, and put your life into a real perspective. People giving you a hard time for liking something really is pretty small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. Especially when it doesn't really have any real life effect other then the offense you take by it which of course is controlled by you.
You...you just don't know how hard it is to go around trying to use COD, GTA, and AC to represent ALL third party games on Ps/Xbox, calling GTA immature for having adult elements (that are used satirically), and then having people on the internet point out how stupid that is. The struggle is real for us, man! I feel like I could relate to the native Americans and the Jewish people of Nazi Germany now! And it's really hard to be a person backed by the academic world like Nye! Sometimes people have the audacity to...disagree with him! The horror!
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