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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, Why Quiet Is Wearing So Little?

We have to say she's a deeply impressive ally. Her stealth, speed and sniping abilities make her a powerful asset and thankfully it appears you can call her in whenever you need her.

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higgins783526d ago

Because women are still treat appalling in the industry? Unrealistic and degrading depictions of women.

xer03525d ago

I just realised that the feminist movement will be bombing Kojima offices, unless they make Quiet wear some clothes... Just like muslim terrorist that shot Charlie in France!

Seriously... Freedom of speech and Freedom of creativity should not be censored. However, it's slowly happening :(

I for one, admire the Japanese for not giving into feminist, as much as the West has - with titles like Tomb raider (lara croft breast reduction).

Yeah... I'm a red blooded male. And I have no issues with women getting into games, so long as they don't change my experiences to suite there's.

If they made a barbie game about feminist dudes, I wouldn't buy it. Why do they want to change games like GTA for including hookers and prostitutes?

An awesome game like GTA, bending to their will, will not be GTA. People will move on in droves.

higgins783525d ago

Incredible! Nobody - especially not me - is asking for censorship. I'm completely against censorship. All I am pointing out is, look at the industry, be it videogame characters or real women working as staff. The way they get treat and depicted is insulting. You can tell playing videogames today that 'men' are still at the core.

Conzul3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

@higgins

"You can tell playing videogames today that 'men' are still at the core"

So f*cking what?

PoSTedUP3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

@higgins

"unrealistic and degrading"

women dont dress skimpy and sexy in real life???
if thats degrading to you then women degrade themselves. so it IS realistic, in your own logic. but it isnt degrading, its taking notice; its glorifying, lust and worship. women crave attention and dress provocative all around the world, and men love it. that is just how life is.

Bansai3525d ago

I think she's still wearing too much :D

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Bimkoblerutso3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

The ONLY reason I am tired of seeing women like this in games is because it usually makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to the context of the given game.

Women are not being "degraded" in any way. If anything, men are being degraded because developers feel like they NEED to randomly throw sexy women in to sell their game to men. In fact, Kojima admitted early on that the only reason Quiet is wearing so little is to attract the "edgier" crowd.

I don't respect that notion at all either, but it has NOTHING to do with degrading women. This is a friggin VIDEO GAME CHARACTER we're talking about, for god's sake.

xer03525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

@scofios @FRAKISTAN

It looks like my comments offended some muslims.
But the facts are, it was radical muslims that killed a man, because he dared to illustrate his freedom of speech.

But this is another discussion, separate from this forum!

Regardless of your faith... I've made a valid point. The real world doesn't censor what it says, neither are the general population politically correct.

It's only the crazy people out their that want to force their way of thinking upon others!

SilentNegotiator3525d ago

"You can tell playing videogames today that 'men' are still at the core"

And? Are there not industries and forms of entertainment that women are at the "core" of?

hay3525d ago

Quiet is wearing so little because "x" in "sex" is made of two "l".

mixelon3525d ago

Lol what. bombing kojima offices.

You don't do your points any favours with nonsense like that. XD

XBLSkull3525d ago

It's their video game and they can do whatever they want. If you want to make a video game and depict a female in another light go ahead and do so. Go cry somewhere else. Don't like it don't buy it.

360ICE3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

@xer0
To be fair, the original comment had nothing to do with censorship. You can criticize expressions without criticizing freedom of speech.

Are women being treated unfairly in video games? Some part of me doesn't really care (probably...), but I guess it'd be nice for there to be more than three decent female protagonists.

ChickeyCantor3525d ago

"Why bring muslims into this story you racist . "

Islam is not a race.

lipton1013525d ago

She's pretty underdressed for the occasion. Hot character model? Definitely. But shes definitely objectified. That should have been an alt costume, not the primary. It's going to take away from the story

frostypants3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

@xer0: "Seriously... Freedom of speech and Freedom of creativity should not be censored. However, it's slowly happening :( "

Government censorship is a bad thing. However, people choosing not to make games with bouncing boobs everywhere is not censorship.

This particular Metal Gear character is kind of pathetic. Yes, Kojima has the right to be pathetic...but people also have the right to mock him for it. Don't throw a nancy fit over it.

ChrisW3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

Regardless of freedom of speech and making characters wear whatever the devs wish them to wear...

Quiet's attire is ridiculously impractical. It's like those old-school RPGs where the skimpier, the higher armor rating. The only people who are outright happy with such things are the young at heart... and mind.

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003525d ago

I don't see how she's being depicted in a degrading manner.

higgins783525d ago

That you don't is an issue in itself.

SilentNegotiator3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

"Free the nipple!", she shouted before turning to yell at a video game developer for designing a woman showing off too much skin.

Third Wave Feminisim is just one giant paradox.

frostypants3525d ago

So if Snake was portrayed running around in a banana hammock,you wouldn't think it was a little odd. Interesting.

003525d ago

@frostypants not really, in fact I'd find it pretty funny actually.

SilentNegotiator3524d ago

@frosty

Because he doesn't run around in super tight pants with the camera staring down his rear when you crawl, right?

/s

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fallacious3525d ago

Oh yea like every guy can be a super assassin or some incredible genius who is also extremely strong. Jesus man for all the stuff you SJWs talk about feminism and equality, you people never consider the other side of the coin. It's just goddamn embarrassing. Typical pathetic white knight keyboard warriors. Go get a life and actually do something in the real world instead of typing stuff on a keyboard if you feel so strongly about it.

Kornholic3525d ago

The logic behind the actions of these white knights is that if they keep doing this long enough, they'll eventually get laid by these feminists. This, however, is only a pipe dream.

SolidStoner3525d ago

I love GIRLS, :D if you dont like it, get the fu*k out of my house! :D

its so natural... you should be afraid if you are men after 16 and don't like attractive women!

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Kornholic3525d ago

Why is it that the heterosexual men's sexuality has become a target for people, especially Feminists and Social Justice Warriors, to condemn, judge and make us feel bad for actually liking attractive women?

It was not that long ago that gays were persecuted for their sexuality. Now you can't do that anymore, which is good, but what makes it okay to persecute heterosexual males for their sexuality?

AKS3525d ago

It's a manipulation tactic that works against most men. Disagree with feminists and other SJWs, and they will aggressively imply that you are a bigot and cast aspersions on your character. They don't really have a problem with your sexuality or masculinity. Rather, they hit men with those sort of false allegations because it is so effective in silencing criticism from males. How often do you see genuine critical discussion of feminism? It's almost always immediately shut down with false accusations of misogyny and claims that you are an abusive tyrant oppressing them, ending the conversation before it begins.

Now it is ineffective against me because I immediately recognize the deceptive shaming tactics instead of questioning myself and backing down, which is what most men currently do. And what I admitted used to do before I figured out their tactics.

frostypants3525d ago

I'm a heterosexual male who likes attractive women, and I have no effing clue what you're talking about regarding "persecution". You're not being persecuted. If you think you are, it's time to grow up a bit, maybe take a step away from video games for a bit and get out into the real world.

Sketchy_Galore3525d ago

I didn't realise Metal gear solid was supposed to be a realistic portrayal of military life. I had always assumed it was meant as a sort of comic booky pastiche featuring characters who's grizzled masculinity or sexy femininity are sort of heightened to make them more dynamic and memorable.

That is pretty dumb though now I think about it. I mean look at Snake. Running around with no shirt on aiming his gun with his eyepatched eye, that's not an unrealistically macho stereotype, that's just business as usual in the military.

PoSTedUP3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

the eyepatch is a camera device. unless i missed the part where he got his eye poked out.

edit: yeah i dont remember that lol. i beat it a long time ago and i didnt finish the HD collection for Vita.

Sketchy_Galore3525d ago

@PoSTedUP

No biggie, we all make mistakes but I must strongly insist that you go play the HD collection again until you can recite every line of dialogue from MGS3. Go now, do not speak to friends or family members, do not stop to eat or drink, just do it.

Panzerkanzler3525d ago

Scantily clad women are no more insulting than perfect, muscular and gung-ho depictions of males. But I'm fine with both stereotypes in games since games don't represent reality. And where is your source that females get treated appalingly in THE INDUSTRY? As far as I'm aware females who work with computer games are treated as well as anyone else. Gosh...I really dislike PC-warriors.

OB1Biker3525d ago

Its a video game for God sake.. you could complain about many things degrading men , women, animals etc etc

The 'industry' as you put it is still way behind compared to many other media

UKmilitia3525d ago

totally agree,there is no need for the clothes she is wearing(or not as in this case),

im a 33 year old man and i would prefer games to be less sexual because i find it sad if im honest.
but also i would like a option to censor swear words too because im fed up of F this and F that constantly.

how can one admire japanese for not giving in to feminists? when u look at most of the stuff over there i would class them as perverts.

It isnt needed as strongly as it is imo and thats my opinion which i suppose we all allowed.

but she wouldnt go to war dressed like that in real army would she lol,if she does sign me up.

zidane13413525d ago

Your fucking lame. I bet your a blast at parties.

TrollsBringer3525d ago

I find her top design lazy TBH. Just a bra?

alabtrosMyster3525d ago

Yes, have them wear the burka because all men are crazy rapists with zero self control? Right?

SnotyTheRocket3525d ago

Nobody was angry that Kratos was shirtless for every God of War, but when a woman looks like that, all hell breaks loose.

Hold_It3525d ago

Double standards are double. See, if women, I mean feminazis or SJWs like it's fine. If regular people don't, it's not an issue. I love how their goal is supposed equality, and really its that they want special treatment and superiority.

Anyone can go out there and give me a video as proof saying that's not what feminism is, but that's exactly what this gamergate crap is portraying it as. Like if these people have nothing better to do than sit on n4g and twitter and other Social media websites and scream hatred towards normal people, then maybe they should quit being basement dwellers and actually do something productive with themselves and society.

Gwiz3525d ago

How can you degrade a being when certain features have been naturally applied?.I seriously want to convey on that matter.So i'm being degraded for not fitting certain requirements to be met?I'm not heavily muscled so i'm being degraded by default.You know how many qualifications that are out there that tell me i'm not worthy? lol..
I like big boobs that doesn't mean those big boobs are going to like me XD.

pompous3525d ago

But you have no problem with the way men are portrayed in games?

thehobbyist3525d ago

"You can tell playing videogames today that 'men' are still at the core."

Some markets just end up being favorable, or even targeted for one gender. Videogames, automobiles, firearms. These are all markets targeted towards men.

Just like how makeup, fashion and reality TV is targeted towards women. Some markets just work a certain way. Get over it.

poor_cus_of_games3525d ago

@scofia. Muslim is not a race. So he / she can't be racist.

eclectified3525d ago

Oh noes! A scantily clad female soldier! So unrealistic and degrading! At least Snake is a realistic representation of every man. A cigarette smoking, digital eye patch wearing, gnarly voiced, nano-machine injected bad ass.

Someone please tell me where these feminist people were when we played as Raiden covering his junk and running around completely nude in a freaking secret military base.

Ship? Factory? I don't remember the details.

I also don't remember anyone calling it degrading or unrealistic.

As far as Quiet goes, I see a female character who is both beautiful and strong. As it relates to fashion, Quiet may march to the beat of her own drum, but she seems completely comfortable with who she is.

If that's degrading, well, there's something you should know...

There's nothing wrong with the industry or society in general.

It's just you.

elsuperamigo3525d ago

Cuz is a Japanese game and Japs like to make games whit alot of naked girls,school girls or anything related to girls using tiny clothing,not that i complain i think the ones that are gonna complain are the ones that dont like girls, meaning the fags

FullmetalRoyale3525d ago

Unrealistic? Sure. Degrading? I do not agree.

ThunderPulse3525d ago

Go back to your ugly fat family.

Xman2K3525d ago

@scofios
Be careful freedom of speech doesn't work both ways to the hypocrites, as they banned me from n4G for telling them how I felt about the cartoon bullies. Glass houses.
As for Quiet, hypocrisy again, as write ups and articles for this, but where is it for naked Jlo booty videos and sports illustrated swimsuit issues? As a matter fact how about all the pointless nudity in movies and tv. How about all the tv shows that always emphasize the female body being only beautiful in a bikini? Although Sniper Wolfs outfit would have deemed better, looks like he wanted to differentiate between them.

styferion3525d ago

if you're talking about unrealistic, almost every male video game MCs are unrealistically perfect.. thats how we totally view ourselves though.

Also, it's funny how people feel entitled to involve themselves in someone else's game. Just like movies, books, or musics, making game is freedom, the creator is free to make it however they want to. Other people don't have the right to butt in, no matter what their agenda is.

Just make your own game, make it critically acclaimed, and change the industry view on your agenda..
Hard? of course, but that's the right way to do it, the TRUE way to change people's minds, not whining how the industry broken or crap like that.

Dan_scruggs3525d ago

First off Higgins you are essentially right. Second this thread is an awesome train wreck and I love it.

assdan3525d ago

A leading theory is the quiet is chico. I'm really hoping that it's accurate.

Rachel_Alucard3525d ago

How come its fine to portray men in unrealistic depections on book novels in a female dominated medium but lo and behold the same thing happens to video games and its suddenly the worst thing ever and you have to go around spewing opinions as facts around?

Oh wait i know why because real men aren't such overly sensitive babies about this stuff. Your agenda is the same thing as a religion, in that you can't force me to believe something when there's 2 dozen other opinions on it.

Jimbil113525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

I think she just looks good. Why can't women be simultaneously sexy and respected for the wonderful things they are?

ChickeyCantor3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

" All I am pointing out is, look at the industry, be it videogame characters or real women working as staff."

Oh please.

Men in games are:
-Cannon fodder.
-Strong
-Fearless
-Hunks
-Fit
-Etc.

With this modern feminist logic you could very well say it sends out a wrong message to lil boys growing up.
"BUT BUT SOME MALE CHARACTERS ARE WELL WRITTEN"

Same goes for female characters. Kojima simply understands their market better. This is not the "industry" degrading women. Otherwise you could say the same about men. But you aint bitching about that now, are you?

LightDiego3525d ago

Oh please, just stop, next you will praise people like Anita.

lipton1013525d ago

Bubbles for you. 100% true. The costume just made my eyes roll. The devs probably have to take masturbation breaks every day. It's going to take away from any seriousness her character represents. It should have been an alt costume. It's just outrageous, she could have looked just as hot wearing a costume that's as battlefield practical as it is sexy.

Svinya3525d ago

Because a majority of gamers are STILL pathetic horndogs and/or young kids?

Tapani3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

@higgins78

I completely agree with you! Don't mind people in here who don't understand a thing about what you are saying. I'm an adult, both in age and experience, and I suspect you are as well.

I think the real reason behind the portrayal of Quiet is Japanese cultural perversion towards Western women. After all, Kojima-san is an Otaku.

These is my personal opinion which is constructed by being a Japanologist by education (associate degree in psychology), living in Japan for five years and talking and meeting Otakus, and playing a wide variety of Japanese games not even released in the West.

So I think I have a pretty good idea how to make an educated guess about what Japanese men like Kojima-san think of Western women. The more I study and learn about Japan, the less I think it is a heaven or every single thing that comes out of that interesting and profound country is perfectly good or special.

That being said, I am thinking of moving back there, despite the Otaku-culture having twisted ideas about women, both Japanese and Western. Plenty of Japanese men respect women there as well, let's not forget that.

ChickeyCantor3524d ago

Holy crap, don't forget to tip your fedora. Good god you're obnoxious.

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MEsoJD3526d ago

click bait... nothing to see here. :3

Double_O_Revan3525d ago

Writes article called 'Why is Quiet wearing so little?' Have to read until page 4 where they basically say 'We don't know why Quiet is wearing so little.'

Gotta love these writers sometimes.

AKS3525d ago

And most of the content of the text was unrelated to the title of the article.

urwifeminder3526d ago

Well that is some practical kit for fighting war what a vision this guy has lol , trying to get the teen booby fans on board I guess. Played one of his cut scenes once that was enough for me.

higgins783525d ago

Only if those boobies are surgically enhanched so gravity defying. Imagine the faces on the majority of gamers - that is the prepubescents - if natural were to make a play.

Sketchy_Galore3525d ago

Wow, you're full of every whiny lib cliche aren't you? I've seen a reasonable amount of real naked women and honestly a lot of them really do have good bodies. I know every female in your social circle looks like Lena Dunham and goes to great lengths to remind you that they only have disgusting bodies because they're 'real' women but I'm telling you, there are women out there who are actually physically attractive, in a way that you don't have to do three years of gender studies to recognise.

voodoochild3463525d ago

@Sketchy_Galore

Goddam right! Pathetic beta males trying to backdoor their way into the arms of feminists. These guys just act like that because they dont have options.The female form is beautiful and I dare anyone to try to stop me from admiring it.

Jaqen_Hghar3526d ago

Why is it such a big deal? Nothing wrong with a little eye candy there's plenty of serious strong female characters in MGS (see the Boss the greatest female character in any game ever). A man is guessing she's going to use those looks to keep herself from dying a couple time like anyone with those...ballistics would

PoSTedUP3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

feminist dont take notice of any of the many strong women depicted in games. that is why they are feminist. they are a dumb, irrational and illogical form of women that are insecure and only care about looks. in other words: small people.

Jaqen_Hghar3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

probably ugly jealous women who want every gaming woman to be a dried up old prune. Also a man is hoping you all got the RE4 ballistics reference

Eonjay3526d ago

Because its what's she is comfortable in and she is tired of people judging her. Perhaps if people were more comfortable with their own bodies, they wouldn't care as much.

Mr_cheese3526d ago

Absolutely perfect comment.

higgins783525d ago

As long as she is young and 'busty', right? God forbid any 'strong' female videogame character should be otherwise.

Conzul3525d ago

Huh. Maybe I can point you to games like...

Gravity Rush
Heavy Rain
Beyond Two Souls
Uncharted 1
Mirror's Edge
The Last of Us

Shall I go on?

PoSTedUP3525d ago

you just like to be annoying. i like boobs, big ones. and a fat butt. and i hope games continue to cater to Men because itll keep you unhappy. plus we pay the most money for this s*** are are the reason why games are, were made and the reason they continue to thrive. women are still a minority in core gaming and nothing you write about will ever change that.

Sketchy_Galore3525d ago

Exactly. I mean look at how the male protagonist of every videogame is a short pudgy bald guy. You don't see that kind of realistic portrayal for women. Makes me wonder how men would like it if the shoe was on the other foot and most game protagonists were men with male model good looks and rippling muscles. Like say if Kratos was a super ripped dude in a tiny loincloth or if the default male Shepard character was literally a male model rather than looking exactly like Jason Alexander like he does now.

Mr_cheese3525d ago

Fat princess anybody? The game that did use these sex appeal tactics that people complain about and instead used a fat woman... They still got complaints for being sexist.

You can't keep everybody happy.

People are fat, skinny, big boobs, no boobs, saggy boobs. If you do not like it, do not play it but don't take away the rights of others.

madpuppy3525d ago (Edited 3525d ago )

@PoSTedUP, I agree with you, At the end of the day video game sales is a billion dollar industry "mostly"
fed by male consumers, does anyone here think that the industry as a whole is going to endanger that revenue stream by capitulating to the power hungry agenda of feminists and their white knight Mameluke slaves.
Does anyone here think think that ANY government that benefits from the ungodly tax revenue stream from the gaming industry is going to endanger it by capitulating to the Feminists agenda?

Let the talking heads bark, Because at the end of the day it is business as usual.

Jaqen_Hghar3525d ago

The Boss, EVA, Sniper wolf, Meryl, the B&B core, all fascinating and strong and some older female characters that have been in MGS. Conzul has other games covered if that's what you were looking for.

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Metal Gear Solid 5, Nearly After A Decade, Is Still A Timeless Classic

The Metal Gear series, led by Kojima, pioneered the stealth genre, creating a masterclass in storytelling and gameplay.

SimpleSlave106d ago (Edited 106d ago )

No. But MGS5: Ground Zeroes might actually be one of the greatest Game Demo ever, if not the best.

xHeavYx106d ago

I know a lot of people didn't, but I actually liked that story twist at the end. The game was fun and all, but I wouldn't call it a timeless classic.

Cacabunga105d ago

Metal Gear legend stopped with number 4.
MGS5 needed a year or 2 more of development to be maybe among the classics.. it was clearly rushed, especially at the end. The story teaches us absolutely nothing new.

just_looken106d ago

A demo is free that was a $40 cry for help as later we would know konami did not want to fun hideo and his team anymore that is why we got the unfinished phantom pain.

-Foxtrot106d ago (Edited 106d ago )

Meh

Great stealth gameplay but the game was just average.

Bland open world that felt lifeless, the story felt shoehorned in, unfinished story etc. The whole thing was just average to me compared to the other main titled games.

I would have rather preferred it if they kept Ground Zeroes for the main game as the opening and the rest of the game turns into a Metal Gear 1 & 2 remake to bring things full circle.

just_looken106d ago

If you dig around they had old behind trhe scenes of phantom pain vids and books wrote around the time.

Before funding was puled the main idea was to keep peace walker coop it was in the games early builds and that end game were your building your base that was suppose to be metal gear one.

You as the fake big boss was going to make your own metal gear one map aka your base (outer heaven) then me as sold snake use the mode that is in the game invade/defeat the base even fight your current version of metal gear that was in the game but not finished.

So your idea was on the table bit got canned.

CrimsonWing69106d ago (Edited 106d ago )

Like hell it is. That was the first time I became aware of being sold an unfinished game and was blown away about blind fanboys saying it was some perfect game.

Yea, the first few chapters were great until they do that thing halfway and make you replay all the missions again. Then little things like capturing animals but only seeing a JPEG unlike 3 where everything was modeled out. Areas were massive, desolate, and boring to look at.

Game was a massive let down for me and the potential was so high for it. Honestly, this was one of the most disappointing games I ever played. What’s worse is it starts off brilliant. You literally play through until you get to the point where you could tell they just stopped developing and then quickly used glue and construction paper to “finish” it and then sold it. Quite frankly, that’s insulting to consumers and fans.

Inverno106d ago

People have selective memory. This game had huge drama attached to it, what Konami did to Kojima and this game was horrible. Now they praise Konami cause they revived Silent Hill, even though SH looks half arsed too.

CrimsonWing69106d ago

I dunno if they’re getting much praise after the Silent Hill 2 debacle. Makes me scared sh*tless for the MGS 3 Remake…

Michiel1989105d ago

I don't wanna defend konami, but Kojima had 7 years to make the game, it's not that weird for a publisher to expect a game to be finished in that amount of time.

Also no one is praising konami from what I've seen, they're just excited that a Silent Hill game is releasing

CrimsonWing69104d ago (Edited 104d ago )

@Michiel1989

You’re absolutely correct. Look, the dude is a visionary and has brought us some incredible games, but he constantly would go over budget and could never stick to a deadline. I don’t know if people remember the MGS 4 trailers but it became a joke when you’d see a release date and then they crossed it out in the next trailer to give another.

What a lot of people don’t know is there’s a certain amount of money given for development and marketing. When you go over the budget and add additional marketing over the deadline it isn’t cheap. MGS GZ and V were laughable to me for the amount of time he had to develop them and he spent even more time on the engine that wasn’t anything revolutionary to me. I mean, GZ was nothing more than a demo and they released that art like $40 I think, probably to further help fund V. He then spent money for Kiefer Sutherland who did nothing for the character, which I think Kojima just wanted because he’s a fan.

Konami just had enough and said this is the deadline and you’re done after this. It’s business, but fans took it personal. I mean look at this Overdose game he’s been doing.,, like when is that ever coming out?

Michiel1989104d ago

I kind of forgot about overdose but yeah exactly my thoughts. He has made some of the best games out there and definitely deserves time to create his new masterpiece, but it's not a bottomless well.

This is pure speculation but I imagine he got around 4 years to make the game excluding pre-production. If after those 4 years the game is nowhere near being done, the relationship will be strained between them one way or another.

about the konami being praised thing, if let's say blizzard announces world of warcraft 2 today I'll be excited as hell for the game, but that doesn't mean my opinion of blizzard changes only a tiny bit cause they're still trash.

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Yui_Suzumiya104d ago

Yeah, it was the only MGS I didn't play and this is coming from someone who got back into gaming after skipping a generation due to MGS4 back in 2008. It just seems to be the complete opposite of the MGS I always knew and loved (1-4).

JEECE106d ago

Yes and no. In many ways in was a great game; there's a very strong argument that it has the best gameplay of any MGS game, and that it is one of the more interesting open world "playgrounds" we have gotten, in terms of how the world operates. But as an MGS narrative, it is pretty far down the list, for many reasons.

Storm23105d ago

I don't think there is any argument. The gameplay was incredible. But yeah...disappointed in the rest. Could have been incredible but...well...we all know what happened...

JEECE104d ago

I don't think there is much of one either but apparently some people found the world very boring compared to the more linear structures of other entries so I didn't make a definitive statement in order to acknowledge the outliers.

DarXyde105d ago

The thing about Metal Gear Solid is that the narrative is what determines which is your favorite because the gameplay had ALWAYS improved with every mainline entry. It's amazing.

If it was gameplay, we'd all say The Phantom Pain, but the story is what truly sets them apart.

For me, that's Snake Eater, which is also my favorite game of all time.

JEECE104d ago

That's my favorite too, particularly if we are talking about the subsistence version with camera control.

Fishy Fingers106d ago

For me, best gameplay, worst, everything else.

Storm23105d ago

Yeah...gameplay was so damn good.

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15 Video Games With Realistic Injury Mechanics

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The Metal Gear series has sold 60.2 million copies

The Metal Gear series has sold 60.2 million copies, as of September 2023.

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Nyxus322d ago

Now we'll have to see how much the Master Collection will add to those numbers.

Number1TailzFan322d ago

Too bad it was a lazy release. They could've updated the visuals and everything. Missed opportunity.

Stanjara322d ago

...and yet, they couldn't give more respect and effort into the collection.
What a terrible company.

Minute Man 721322d ago (Edited 322d ago )

Are they counting every game?

Edit: they did

Nyxus322d ago

Yes, these are total lifetime sales of the entire series.

ApocalypseShadow322d ago

.... mostly with the help of PlayStation.

Michiel1989321d ago

Get that Sony tramp stamp while you're at it. No one asked