This week's HUNT brings you Geoff vs. Michael.
In early February, cloud storage space will be expanded from 10GB to 100GB for PS Plus members — giving PS4 owners even more space to keep all those game saves.
For Honor and Hitman is featured on PS4. Also included are:
Divekick, PS3 (Cross-Buy with PS Vita)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, PS3
Gunhouse, PS Vita (Cross-Buy with PS4)
Rogue Aces, PS Vita (Cross-Buy with PS4)
Yes, I owned it only pre-trophy release, so I want to play it again bc a)trophies and b) it's a damn good game.
Only wish Vita didn't go out on such a whimper. Considering JRPG fans are the ones probably still playing it to this day, they could have given us something solid. Demon Gaze 1 or 2 (although I already own 1), or a similar labyrinth JRPG, or something else entirely. At least 1 non-indie.
Hitman 1st season is very solid! I have been wanting to buy that still, so I'm excited for that. For Honor looks interesting, although I'm not much of a MP guy. I'll give it a shot considering the theme.
Overall, great month, despite the Vita whimper.
Dont have either, great month afaic. What a great send-off for the ps3 with MGS4...
Yeah I recently dusted off my vita and took the plunge and brought a bigger memory card to hold all the awesome games I kept in saying it would be nice to play but it's to annoying to backup and download and play.
I've spent the past week playing games like borderlands 2, AC liberty, Killzone Merc, ratchet and Clank the list goes on and honestly the vita had so much potential it's just such a shame Sony gave up on it so easy it really was the switch before the switch in some ways like I was able to cross play my save games between PS3 and vita to pick up where I left off
Honestly, pretty great month, cool stuff. I also just repurchased games pass on Xbox so I have so many games to play now it's overwhelming lol
I never played it again since the trophy patch, so this might be a good reason to do so. More backlog I guess
So glad they expanded cloud saves to 100GB. I was just uploading my game saves and didn't have enough space.
It's insane to think we used to save our data on a 15 mb memory card, usually in a 1mb slot in the PS1 days to what we have now.
for some reason save files for ps4 are huge even for the same games where they are tiny on ps3 ...
funny enough i believe they get compressed before uploading to the ps plus but ps plus still reports the uncompressed size.
When i was on a real slow connections 30 mb files would upload in seconds which judging by my connection at the time means they were < 1 mb
Digital games are great, convenient, and load a bit quicker. But games are no longer in single digit GB, they are going into double digit GB and wouldnt be surprised if next gen, we see games that 100gb plus. Even with hard disk going cheaper, you will run out room fast.
Yea, I was going through recently deleting auto-saves from demos and betas. Not that I care to keep those, it's just good to not have to squeeze out every hidden MB to save a game. Some of them can be quite large.
@StormSnooper
Where did you get that impression? lol
It is a reference to the optional button (X) mashing some cut-scenes had in MGS4 for flashbacks.
To me personally it is one of the best games of all time, when it released it has truly blown us away by its gameplay, graphical fidelity and cinematography.
It also had one of the most heart-wrenching endings i have ever seen... *ugh....someone is cutting onions again*
The last great MGS. I'll always pretend MGSV didn't happen. MGS4 closed everything it needed too. It's a shame the direction it went in with V
What about Peace Walker? People always forget about that one. I think MGSV is great by the way, but MGS4 also got a lot of hate when it was new.
Wow! I've always wanted to have MGS4 as digital, planning on playing back to back MGS games on my PS3.
I really hope they don’t think upping cloud storage is going to be a suitable replacement for two different libraries of games. Since they’ll be removing value they need to make up for that value or drop the price.
Not to mention another company gives out cloud storage to all users of their console for free, not just subscription members.
Pretty sure they will be adding PSVR rather soon.
Again worst case your paying 16 cents a day for online gaming.
What else is that cheap, I spend 2.50 for a second cup of coffee per day that works out to $912.50 yearly.
$47.99 (cuz you only buy when on sale) per year is nothing.
But that’s absolutely stupid and not adding any value either. PSVR games have already been distributed by PS+.
I’m also positive more people benefit from PS3 & PS Vita games versus PSVR. There’s even more Vitas out there versus PSVR. There’s definitely more PS3s.
I like your coffee example but it’s poor. I buy coffee for between $4.50 and $8. What I buy with that amount of money provides me with over 200 cups of coffee.
But they also provide services that the other side doesn’t like free to play without paywall Or Spotify background music (unless I think they also got it recently?) I’m sure there are others.
@undertaker - only a handful of PSVR games have been given out on PS+. it's not every month
Always have to have that one guy that thinks he's owed everything for 60 dollars a year.
Or maybe I know how to identify that going from the current program to the proposed one:
PS3 games
PS Vita games
PS4 games
Cloud storage
PS4 games
Cloud storage
It really doesn’t take a rocket scientist to identify they’d effectively be removing half of the current PS+ program and yet still charging $60 a year.
So again, there’s no twist. That’s effectively removing value.
Oh, and to you I say personally, isn’t that like the one who always comes charging in when anything negative is pointed out about Sony?
@Undertaker: Apply for a job at Sony and give them your feedback.
I mean...for someone to complain about this is really baffling.
always have to have some die hards defend moves that aren’t in the consumers favour. They are giving you less for the same money. How is that a good thing?
That well is drying up dude. There's been such measly choices on the PS3 and Vita for months now. Could even go as far as to say 2 years. It had to end sometime and there was plenty of pre warning.
Not exactly while yes my first cup of coffee from home is yes $4-8 for a pound of coffee yields sure 200 cups of coffee.
My second coffee when I'm at work: the local coffee shop charges me $2.50 for my cold brew, per coffee.
So not a poor example at all.
As for the PS3/PS Vita time to put them to rest, it's been 13 years of support for PS3 and plenty for a failed device like Vita, Time to move forward with PS4/PSVR. Not only that we don't know what their plan is for PS4 perhaps they up it to 3 games per month. Plus free MP games are not behind a paywall, unlike some other company.
I have a travel cup so I don’t have the added expense when I go out. The point is you’re making the choice to buy that second cup, not being forced to.
That’s also the point. At this time there has been zero explanation about what will be added. They have made it very clear what they will be removing. So at this point Sony has a choice, exactly as I said in the first place. I don’t see upping cloud storage as a replacement to removing full titles and libraries. They can either add content or drop the price. But as is should not be acceptable. They’re literally preparing to charge the same for less.
And that other console makes you pay to play F2P games. And the only reason you are getting games in the first place on the other console is because of this console. You all, including myself, paid for Live last gen and got nothing. And fanboys praised it. All of you, again including myself, still paid it. I actually stopped after my 3 console got the RROD but most continued. People complained about not getting AAA games and now that we are getting AAA games, some are still complaining. Most people don't buy every single AAA game that comes out including myself so this month is great for a lot of people.
They didn't have to up the storage but they did. We don't know what will happen once they stop with giving out PS3 and Vita games. Plus ,I thought no one owned a Vita and now you want all the games for it. I don't get it. How about you wait and and see what they do first before complaining and just enjoy all these games you are getting now. Plus all the games you have got all these years that they have been doing this even before this gen.
Question: How long do you want them to continue to give out PS3 and Vita games seriously? We won't mention the other console because they just started this gen and not at the very start either. This month, the games offered pretty must offset the cost of a yearly sub to PS Plus. I will put these games in my already huge backlog. I am grateful. I don't care if they just gave out 1 game. Anything is better than nothing and we know who started that....
I think his point is if you take the before value and after value, they are giving you less.
I think he want to be given something of equal value that he was already getting for his money, not less.
So it doesn't have to be PS3 and PSVita games.
I mean, we are getting less for the same price so I agree. Idk what the downvotes are for. It's common sense. And no it's not entitlement or thinking I'm owed something. I hope they throw in an extra game. On a side note, I wish they'd take the ps3 games that are given every month and put them on ps now. I'd love to play MGS4 again but don't have my old ps3
Your logic is flawed…You keep claiming the value is in the number of games offered…But the value can be made up in several ways…Let me give you just 2 examples:
More AAA PS4 games throughout the year. Or maybe…More recent AAA PS4 games (the more recent a game is, the more it costs the consumer…thus creating more value if they get put into PS+ sooner)
I don’t have to have logic to say that Sony has not stated one little bit of what you just did. So until they do again, this isn’t hypocritical. They’ll be removing content with no replacement at this point in time.
And as evidenced above apparently the majority don’t have an issue with that, even if they’ll be paying the same.
Makes perfect sense right? Claiming the value could rise while arguing that the cost should stay the same? And apparently there’s something wrong with wanting the same amount of content. But cutting content in half is cool too because it’s old content.
I didn't realize XBL does cloud for non-Gold members. That's nice.
I suspect Sony will share some news about something for PS Plus users before March as I don't think they'll like having MS give away more games per month than them. Maybe something that utilizes PSNow games somehow... Just wishful thinking
Removing PS3 and vita games does not change anything because most of the people does not own those systems but increasing cloud storage benefits all members that it is very important especially with PS5 when saves going to take even more space.
The Vita and PS3 have lived good lives but it’s time to let go . I still play my Vita but I’d rather have PSVR games because generally what we get on Vita isn’t so great. PS5 is coming and it’s time to transition . I download the games they give away on PS3 but I either have them already or rarely play any of them. This was going to happen no matter what and right before PS5 coming out is longer than I had expected. They will replace it with something and someday we will get PS5 PSVR2 and maybe even ps Vita 2 games ( I really hope so!) All good things come to and end
Great month! I have Hitman but I don't own For Honour. Solid month for anyone who does not have any of the titles.
About time for cloud saves this is one of the areas where they are behind. Cloud saves should be fully automatic. Something you don’t even have to think about that just works.
This is just an upgrade to capacity for cloud saves, they've been there for years.
Never new the cloud saves were so low on Playstation. Already have Hitman but I never played For Honor, so that's a cool game to grab.
It used to be 1 GB. I didn't think 10GB would be an issue. I think they really need to get save files under control. They shouldn't be holding any graphics or audio data, so why do some of these saves take up so much space?
@ceooflhm
I haven't really looked since the size upgraded to 10 GB. I tried looking last night, but I would have had to close the game I had running which I wasn't going to do. Even 10MB seems like too much data for a save file. Complete Super Nintendo games took up far less space.
I have a bunch of game saves on the current 10GB cloud and I still have about 6GB of free space. Seems like overkill but more space is never a bad thing (unless they try to charge us more for it :))
If you didn’t know about it, it means it wasn’t so low after all. Anyway it’s now 100gb so no worries.
"If you didn’t know about it, it means it wasn’t so low after all."
That's not how sane logic works.
er, so if you never knew, that means that you never ran out, which in turn means Sony were supplying you with ample space. Lets face it 10Gb is not low just for game saves. I mean Apple only give you 5GB of free space, even if you drop $1000 on a phone..................each effing year (which I don't by the way) that's years of PS+.
Just because I didn't know, doesn't mean it still wasn't low.
See how that works.
Clound saves are only for PS Plus subscribers.
For Honor was in Games with gold in August last year and Hitman is on Gamepass.
For Honor was in GWG? I seriously missed it, cause I don't have it.
And yeah, Hitman is on GP which I have.
Really glad they included Hitman. I've been replaying the series recently, and hopefully Hitman's inclusion drives up sales for Hitman 2. Great games all around, especially MGS4.
I see a lot of people saying it's not enough, and while it may not be with some of the new games coming, I've never had to manage space. There was one game last gen which had 200mb individual saves, so in turned off uploads, but other than that's, i still have about a gb of space. And I have a few hundred games with tons of scar files.
I guess having more doesn't hurt though.
@2pacalypsenow: Games with customization options tend to have large save files. A lot of the EA games are like that with custom players, custom teams, custom stadiums or arenas, and so forth. The Madden games can have pretty large save files as well.
The WWE games are the same way.
If I recall correctly, it was Mass Effect 3 last gen that had huge save files. But it's been a while. I recall reports about some sports games also having large files.
Personally, I dunno why they have to be that large. Especially last gen. That's a tremendous amount of data. I have databases which hold thousands of times more data than you'd see in the most complex games, and they only clock in around 15-20MB.
I'm not saying the games don't exist out there, just that I never really saw that it wasn't enough. Why anyone would want to upload that much data routinely is beyond me, since it uploads the whole file whenever it changes.
Oh well, going forward, 100GB should help cover it better. Nothing wrong with getting more.
It hadn't become an issue for me just yet but I was on the verge of reaching capacity so I'm delighted with that
Kind of trashy I'm paying for PS now and PS plus. This is the 2nd month in a row the main offering has been given out to both services so I'm paying twice. Steep, now for honor. Guessing Metro is next month.
well i half agree with that jon snow ...cuz i just bought physical version of that hitman few months ago :D
I have both these games on PC and on Xbox. Even games for gold is crap this month. Try again calling me a troll.
I was literally about to dust off my PS3 to play MGS4 again lol. Crazy that game hit 1080p 60fps back in 08 and still holds up today!
Haha, what?? Not only is it 30fps, but it's not even 720p. Where the heck did you get 1080/60 ???
most people think uncharted 2 was the first must have game for ps3 but for me mgs4 was.
Oh man, I just bought For Honor for $20... granted it came with the Marching Fire expansion. This game has turned out to be pretty fun!
Banger month! I skipped last month but this month I'mma surely download all the AAAs on PS4
With Hitman that means you get the Season 1 legacy levels in Hitman 2 for free.
I was guessing they'd want to go out with a bang with their last Vita and PS3 monthly games, MGS4 which I already own I guess but Divekick? and two indie games for the Vita, disappointing send off imo. I was half expecting them to give games like The Last of Us and/or Uncharted for the last PS3 month, even though I already own them too.
Wow. This is a great month for me. The cloud save increase in particular will help me a great deal as I believe I'm around 85% at the moment.
Just a side note, xbox has cloud saves for free, you don't need gold, which is something I wish sony would do, rather than locking saving your games on the cloud behind a paywall. Nevertheless, it's good they're at least adding more space.
Just a side note, free to play games are free to play on the PS4.
Free to play game on the Xbox One (X) are behind the paywall.
You see? It works 2 ways. 😉
Super excited to play Hitman PS4. Always wanted to try the game, think I’m gonna like it and maybe get hitman 2 after
So by Sony upping cloud space to 100GB just confirm PS5 backwards compatible with PS4 ? . I certainly think so ! .
That's a really solid month of games. I hope this is a sign of things to come considering PS3 and Vita support is ending.
I really needed that 100gb for saves . Having to choose which games I want to delete save files too is difficult . I deleted every game I have plantinuma first but sometimes it is nerve racking . I always thought 10gb would be plenty but they add to much junk in save files that some companies should be saving in their side imo.
I didn’t buy Hitman because I hate episodic content( I think this is the one with it!) and I forgot about it. I also didn’t buy For Honour as it’s mainly a multiplayer game that looked repetitive but I’ll play it for the campaign . Pretty good month I would say
i thought you had to upload every save data to the cloud manually. it's still only for ps plus members
How about they not delete my saves off the cloud! Had to restart several games..
Next month is the more important one for me. Will they up their PS4 offerings (either more games or bigger titles) due to no more PS3/Vita?
Have they officially said anything? Only thing I ever read was some indirect source that some Sony guy in Japan said there would only be 2 titles.
For Honor looks like fun. At any rate, I am cancelling my PS+. The only point of having it is to pay a fee to play full priced live service games and good deals are on games no one wants. Yeah, it sounds messed up, because it is.
Good for you. Think I'll sub another year. No one cares if I do or not, just thought I'd share.
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