In a recent Q&A session, Syphon Filter 3's Lead Designer Jeff Ross offered his personal view on where a new Syphon Filter game would go, should it ever be made.
Days Gone director claims Sony has already poured in at least a $250M in Bend's project; says Days Gone sold more than Death Stranding.
Well that sucks. Seems they want more online trash. I'd rather of had the sequel if it was single player
The past has nothing to do with the future. This is such a terrible argument. Everyone knows about their current live service push.
It's so tragic what happened to days gone. It is such an amazing game but bandwagoners trashed it and it underperformed in it's launch year. Days gone is the best open world zombie game released in the past five years. I was recently playing it on pc and I'm still amazed by it.
Games are very expensive to make and it seems like it's normal for a AAA game to cost over a quarter billion to make so if a quality game like days gone greatly underperforms then people shouldn't be upset when they see a lot of GAAS. I still remember a lot of bandwagoners calling days gone trash but years later it's now amazing when it's considered a failure by sony.
If a game isn't the best thing seen since hats with pockets then a lot of gamers who haven't played it automatically calls it rubbish and whoever made it should be incarcerated
Co CEO prefers gamers to boycott.. so be it. I’ll never buy a gaas.
Just imagine buying a game you cannot replay in some years.. this shit must stop.
Days Gone did zombies in a very original way. The story was also so engaging. You actually only meet Zombie hordes later in the game. There are many more enemy groups to deal with.
@Notelin
I am one of the few who bought Days Gone on release day and loved it completely.
However, "more online trash" is phrased like Sony has put out alot of trash online games.
We got what, 2 games? Helldivers 2 and GT7, 2 of the most sold Playstation games where both is loved by millions.
You, me and especially shinoff has no idea if Fairgames, Marathon and Concord will be trash.
Just because we (as in you and me) don't love or support online games, doesn't mean millions of other do.
And we don't know what Bend Studio is working with? We don't know if they're forced to make a online game or another amazing single player experience.
The only thing we do know is that it's not Days Gone, sadly due to poor sales the first 6 months.
More online trash wasmt meant how insee it comes across. I should've worded it different I was meaning the focus they currently have on it.
Anything online is online trash to me. How long did naughty dog spend on that dumba last of us multiplayer, how about Concord, or even the other couple we hear about. I fk with Sony because rpgs and their 1st party single player games. Been like that for years. I hate seeing them waste time, money, and talent on trash. I understand bot every game is gonna be for me but this focus they've seem to had on multiplayer is extremely disheartening. Even at the state of play the only things I was really feeling were Astrobot and silent hill 2 and I'm content with that, not everything is for me. It's just the online focus I hate. Ms bought up 3 to 4 wrpgs developers, Sony just ignores rpgs 1st party wise.
And a days gone 2 would've been much better then whatever online sht bend is working on. I do know sometimes I get very idk emotional. I do need to work on toning that down a bit lol
Ammm let's see... That All-stars, Foamstars, Babilon 5 wass gaas...
Concord... can wait to play that...Marathon uuuu... Last of them gaas... U
Horizon Zero dawn has a project that leaked as a Fortnite lookalike.
They bought Destiny that is a dead gaas...people love ti.
Helldivers 2 was luck.
Jimbo was all in and pushed Sony single player games 5 years behind.
Spiderman gaas was cancelled... I mean every 1st party studio was doing gaas.
Bend had to pitch a gaas game... Open world coop something
I can't remember more... Of that crap.
@simpledad. Destiny 2 isn't a dead game. Its the number 5 most played game on steam. I dont play it, but alot of people do.
@SimpleDad
You failed to mention a single PS Studios game that has been released last 10 years.
Either your reading skills are crap or you think Sony own every studio in the world.
I rolled my eyes at concord not only was it just yet another cookie cutter hero shooter but that qucik look for the hero select.
Already has a free section then paid section along with a they/them she/her dei crap top right.
Nothing like a day off of work to fire up concord to read about the new characters sexual identity and or preference then a paywall do you want o buy this character shit like no i just want to shoot my gun have fun.
It would be a shame if it was true that Hermen never gave the franchise a chance simply because he didn't like it and they already had a "Zombie" game with TLOU.
NaughtyDog are most likely moving onto a new IP next so it would have been the perfect time to do it.
Days gone 2 was canceled before Herman was in charge. That happened like 4 years ago.
4 years ago he was head of Playstation Studios. He would've probably had a hand in the cancelation.
Man two seconds of research could have saved you from this comment. Amazing work Grilla you fit in with the uniformed N4G community who speaks before verifying anything that they say.
Maybe encourage people to buy the game at full price and not when it's heavily discounted or go on plus. If this game had sold well when it was full priced a sequel would have been in the works. They made a single-player game that most people didn't support until they dropped the price.
The guy’s just a moron.. he should have stayed within game development. His choices will have a terrible impact on the brand in the long run.
Dude is pretty pathetic. Sounds like a guy who's girl left him for someone better. Always talking about days gone sequel that never was, even though he is no longer at bend and hasnt been for a while. I for one am not upset about the lack of a sequel. It is one of the worst 1st party games in recent memory. Completely jank, played like an xbox game. The only redeeming quality was the hordes.
Yep. Kind of weird since it wasn't a sales flop, no?
I know we have to take what Ross says with a grain of salt since we're hearing just one side of the story, but even so, the game wasn't bad at all. Heck, it's my brother's favorite last-gen game from what I recall.
The amount of zombies on screen, imagine that with the PS5 and SSD? That would be insanely fun!
Most copies were sold on sale. Not enough ppl bought it at full price. I paid 20$ for it 6 -7 months after release.
Yeah we should never believe the creators side until we hear the corporate/big business side as history has shown we should always believe billion dollar corporations.
What a bootlicker statement.
@Notellin, of course you'll believe an embittered ex-employee with an axe to grind because it's evil Sony he's complaining about. You guys act like days gone was this huge success and somehow Sony hates easy money a sequel would have generated. The game was mid and so was the response to it. They're still supporting the developer who is making a new ip that could be great.
Days gone was fantastic. I bought day one but didn't get around to it for months. When I finally did I was pissed at myself for waiting so long lol
Well I don’t want 10 live service games, but they have no problem doing that lol. Ugh.
Oh great so we only get what the big wigs want… y’know, the people that really have their fingers on the pulse of what their consumers want. Faaaaantastic!
Well consider they know the sales... they do know what the consumer wants.
It sold shit.
But if it’s true what this guy says it sold better than Death Stranding
Yet that got a sequel and Kojima aside out of them both DS didn’t really NEED a sequel compared to Days Gone which ended on such a cliff hanger twist.
This is a very simple list to complete. There are no collectibles. Most of everything here is story related with a couple miscellaneous Trophies thrown in. Nothing here can be missed as there is a really helpful rewind feature as well as mission select.
I feel like this comments section helps distinguish the PS ‘old’ fans from the ‘new.’
SNES was my first console, Christmas morning heaven.
I’ve never played SF but I can understand the delight for trophy support 20 years after.
A new battleground is heating up in the modern era: backwards compatibility. Sony and Microsoft have different angles, but which is better?
These are different companies with different eco systems. They will pick the approach that best suits them and the games in their catalog which are also vastly different.
Nothing will ever be as good as the phat PS3 model. Since sites like to compare things all the time, compare the older systems to the newer systems when it comes to BC. I'm sure you'll find the newer systems lacking.
Had to get those cost down to make it cheaper. Since people weren't too into BC back then, that was the first to go. Shame indeed.
3 gens of playstation games, and you could use your PS1 and PS2 disk. No limited emulation. The PS3 was ahead of it's time. The way people LOVE BC today, the PS3 would have killed in 2022.
@Silly It wasn’t that people weren’t into back compat, it’s that they weren’t into $599 consoles that arrived a year later than and ran a lot of games worse than the cheaper competitor console.
Price is always #1.
The Phat models, especially the original were prone to overheating, no way at this time you could get one where you could use it for PS2 AND heavy PS3 gaming(which would cause it to malfunction at some point).. It's just a novelty now. So, why... ? Only collection/hobby, and definitely not practicality.
@Eidolon I've actually got an original PS2 but I don't have a crt to play it on. Upscaling to a 4k tv doesn't look great and I've tried component cables and such but nothing has really worked for me.
I would happily pay for a ossc or a framemister but apparently those are not that great for PS2.
I basically want the fat PS3 purely for PS2 BC on HD TVs
Component cables worked great for me, I do have one of the slim ps2 models, though. You can grab a cheap crt but shipping will be expensive and their brightness degrades. Nothing will beat playing PS2 on a CRT. Even upscaled PC emulation just exposes the age. Wish some technology like CRT could co exist with LCD and OLED, but for retro gaming.. and shit.. maybe could make older more recent gen games look decent again.
Modern gaming journalism. Creates division so that they have something to talk about in the time between new games.
PS2 BC wasn't finicky. It played nearly every game in PS1's catalog. The list was almost negligible. PS3 almost played all the games from PS1 and PS2 until the removal of full BC. But Sony showed you can sell over 100 million PS4 consoles WITHOUT it if you provide a smattering of new games. Microsoft showed you can't sell 100 million consoles WITH it if you don't provide enough new games for a new console.
Xbox is said to lead the way but if we were to count the total amount of BC games for each console, it's near the same amount. Microsoft doesn't play all its previous games as Sony doesn't. Just offering different selections.
New games for new consoles still matter and should always be the priority. BC is fine but should be secondary to providing new games. There isn't any new battleground. If a strategy is to look to the past for games already played or purchased for new consoles, you're looking in the wrong direction. It would be the same with subscriptions. You don't watch Netflix to watch old shows you already watched even if they were good. You look to watch NEW shows you haven't watched.
I know some love trophy or achievement hunting. But that's not enough for me. Only if the games looked better, moves better and played with better controls. Going back to some these games with bad camera angles and tank controls to get a trophy doesn't sound fun to me. But that's just me. Some might. But I hope it's because a game was fun.
"You don't watch Netflix to watch old shows you already watched even if they were good. You look to watch NEW shows you haven't watched."
What a horrible take. There are shows on Netflix that are old that I never watched that are still very good. The 4400 and Peaky Blinders are just a couple that I recently discovered on Netflix. There's a reason old movies are reformated and put on new media. Because there's always a generation that wants to watch something that could be considered timeless.
The same can be said with many games that people never played in the past that they have always been told were good. A new console should be able to not only play new games but also have the ability to play classics.
Also...Absolutely no one is saying that new games don't matter or that BC is necessary to win the console war. I feel this over exaggerated narrative keeps being brought up because of how long certain people downplayed gamers wanting a way to play their old games and Sony not providing a means to do it, even when they had emulators available.
Sony even went as far as releasing their own study saying that less than 3% (or something) hardly used BC. And Jim Ryan even laughed at older games saying asking why would anyone play them. But as usual with companies that don't have the same features as the competition they go into PR cover mode until they're up to speed. As you can see BC is now the talk of the town again.
Sony is using past games to bolster their library for their higher tier sub service. And it looks like they're adding a few additions to some of them like trophy support and multiplayer. This is a good thing. If there's any criticism to be made it's the fact that Sony is pushing old games to get people to subscribe to it's highest tier.
Cool, now we need a new article called...''The battle for new and great Ip's''...
Come on, Say it already.... People have been dying to play as Gabe again. The guy is seriously an underrated protagonist. I really could use a Syphon Filter Reboot.
"Gabrielle Logan, Where are you?"
"But what about the Serum... Leave nothing"
The silo mission was a Bi#$/
We want Syphon Filter PS4
*Edit: and don't forget the taser :-)
I would love to see syphon filter again I didn't like the PSP ones though but the 3 games on ps1 have a large place in my heart I really want it back for ps4 :D would love to gear up the silenced 9mm pistol and taser & flackjacket lol :D
It was all about the taser and Gabe's running style.
I agree. SF is stale.