Sega Wanted The Xbox To Play Dreamcast Games And Other Dreamcast Facts

The latest episode of Did You Know Gaming looks at Sega's final consoles, the Dreamcast.

[Fullmetalevolust]

I love this show and I love the Dreamcast, it lives on in the hearts of many gamers and developers are still making (some) games for it. If only Sega would join the console making race again.

[Nitrowolf2]

I love these to, and it's pretty interesting to see SEGA's history and how they are now. Seems their partnership with Sony was shortlived, though with Microsoft they worked with them for years, which TBH begs the question of what their relationship is now considering that they do PS exclsuives, but have no Xbox exclusives (least I think)

[bouzebbal]

yeah, i remember there was a big love between Xbox and SEGA back in the days and rumors of playing DC games on Xbox. Many exclusive deals have been signed and xbox got SEGA exclusive sequels to some of their best franchises: Panzer Dragoon Orta, Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi 3... and of course a Shenmue 2 port. As a PS2 owner at that time i was jealous and i ended up buying Xbox to play these great games (and also DOA 3).

[hkgamer]

their relationship with ms hasnt been for that long.
they had a windows ce option for the dreamcast, but no developers wanted to develop games for the windows ce model. think it cost more.

ms definitely got interested into making consoles with their sega partnership. big sega games went onto the xbox, gc had a few and sony barely got anything. but as sega knew from experience. sony was the console selling more and they kinda had no choice but to work with them aswell.

[IceKoldKilla]

Don't they have a strong relationship with Nintendo now? For years actually. I see a lot of Sonic games on Nintendo consoles alongside crossovers with Mario and other Nintendo characters.

[Concertoine]

I actually knew about this one. Honestly I think MS should've bought Sega instead of Rare. They would've had a much better chance in japan with help from sega, and sega had a ton of talent back then. If they got bought up they wouldn't have had to literally halve their workforce in the coming years.

Im surprised they didnt bring up bleemcast. For those that dont know, it lets you play enhanced versions of Gran turismo 2, Tekken 3, and Metal gear solid on the dreamcast. It's actually the best way to play all three games, as it gets rid of all the pixelation present on the ps1. The controller isnt as good for those games as the dualshock, but there's also adapters to let you play DC games with the dualshock.

[hkgamer]

im not 100% sure of the timeline, but sega was almost bankrupt at that time. if it wasnt for sammy and their pachinko machines they would have went under.

rare is a tiny game studio. totally different to buying a masive company.

[Concertoine]

But MS still payed 375 million bucks for Rare, hardly a tiny game studio.

[stonecold3]

hope sega make another console

[2pacalypsenow]

No thanks we dont need 4 consoles in the market

[caseh]

Taking into account you count the Wii U as a competitor, it's more like two.

[Army_of_Darkness]

Sony would over-shadow any new Sega console due to the PlayStation's popularity and Sega's bad console history... Sega is better off just making games for all the platforms.

[caseh]

@Tiqila

Depends on if you see it as a viable choice, personally I don't. Hence two consoles.

[MasterCornholio]

Sega needs to start making better games first.

IMO

[hkgamer]

totally no need for that. with their track record it just wouldnt be succesful enough.

does sega have any games/series that even sell?

the only reason i want them around is to make yakuza games and maybe make give shenmue another chance.

[Klonoa-dreamtraveler]

i would want one too but with the people in charge at sega now would make a very poor attempt at it then use a excuse saying people aren't interested in it when really they seriously need to be fired cause everything they touch is half-assed done now where they either ruin a ip or hide it in the dark for years. though that cant have 4 consoles in the market sad excuse is annoying to hear now.

[FlyingFoxy]

@Army_of_Darkness

Bad console history? Master System was sucessful, Mega Drive was successful, Dreamcast was a good system and only got support ended early due to people being hyped for PS2 and many ignoring the DC, even though it had better games than the PS2 at launch!

Sega only made 2 mistakes, biggest was the 32x, the Mega CD was a failure but it still had a handful of good games with kick ass music.

[maniacmayhem]

A motion controller for the Dramcast!? uh oh...was this before the supposed youtube of Sony making a motion controller? Because if so this really throws a wrench in the who did what first argument.

Also, Fable was suppose to be a Dreamcast game? Wow, I love these videos...so many Holy Crap moments.

[caseh]

Nintendo made the first motion controller, well...the first one that didn't really work:

http://i3.photobucket.com/a...

[MasterCornholio]

Well it helped AVGN beat dark link.

So it at least has some functionality.

;)

Love how you posted the pic from that movie.

[caseh]

Haha, I think he also managed to land the plane on the carrier in Top Gun with it as well. :D

[Concertoine]

Actually it was made by Mattel. Nintendo just licensed it.

Personally i dont care who made what first... i hate how this site gets all worked up about who introduced the crappy motion gimmick first.

[Fireseed]

To this day I still consider the Dreamcast as my favorite console of all time, simply because almost every game made for the thing was absolutely amazing. Plus it fits into those sweet spot years of nostalgia.

[DLConspiracy]

Did you know that the plug from the DC controller was the exact same plug for the original Xbox? It sort of makes sense now hearing MS involvement.

[Alsybub]

I always considered the Xbox to be Dreamcast's spiritual successor, especially when there had been talk of the Xbox playing Dreamcast games. A lot of Dreamcast devs went over to Xbox instead of PS2. Although, whenever I mention this I tend to get a lot of disagrees on here.

[DLConspiracy]

Don't feel bad we may be in the minority but I agree with you. You also have to consider the site we are on, this site leans to what is popular opinion. You will always get disagrees for mentioning Xbox. Just the way it is.

A lot of these kids weren't even old enough to know Dreamcast. Maybe through an older family member. I felt the same way though. When the original Xbox came out I was like dreamcast!

[N4g_null]

I remember showing this console off and people where floored... some how they thought ps2 still had better graphics because of the cgi movies it played in cut scenes. LoL. Man I loved that console. Playing quake 3 against pc gamers wow! They did so much right. Sony simply had too much money. Sega could not buy an exclusive to save their life. Which is sad. All of that talent left sega, which is the true reason why so many of their games suck now.

Sega had huge ideas though. Man I miss the old sega.

[jmtstan]

the controller is nearly identical, one would say xbox controller s is a successor for dreamcast controller.

[Deadpool616]

I didn't want this video to end. I love the Dreamcast and everything it achieved in video games. It's by far, one of the BEST game systems I have ever had the pleasure of owning.

The only thing I hated about it was the GD-ROMs. One little insignificant microscopic scratch on the label and the game was rendered useless.

[Agent_hitman]

Xbox brand is essentially the reincarnation of Dreamcast.

[GokuSolosAll]

Sega needs to release the Dreamcast 2 next gen before anyone else and just blow us away with a great system and games. They're stupid not to.

[yewles1]

A lot of this info isn't entirely correct, especially the Sega/Sony scenario...

http://www.pushsquare.com/n...

[N4g_null]

Great post man. What is interesting is the idea that nintendo betrayed sony. Sony asked nintendo to become a 2nd party studio and Nintendo would no longer own mario or any of it franchises. Um mmmmmmm I would have said fuckz you too. That is the only reason why Philips was even consider. Nintendo loved sony tech and together they would have crushed ms also... imagine the wii and ps3 hardware. The nintendo tech would sell it while the cell would power it. Also 3rd parties would be all on one box. Sony just had to set up a fare deal.

[EazyC]

Anyone who owned a Dreamcast back in the day knows how special it was as a console. Metropolis Street Racer, Jet Set Radio and Shenmue.....hnnnng!

[FlyingFoxy]

Can't beat the blue swirl boot up sequence, probably my 2nd fave bootup of consoles .. 1st might be the PS1. Tough choice.

[MetroidFREAK21]

An absolutely wonderful console

[Alsybub]

I would love it if Sega were to make a Dreamcast 1.5.

On my list of features I would want:-

-A more modern but similar design to the original DC
-Improved and wireless controllers
-HDMI Upscaling
-WiFi
-Internal Storage
-An online store

Then if they were to make a market and officially release the SDk for Indi developers.

That would be amazing.

I can dream.

[FlameWater]

DreamCast just had bad luck brian timing, tried to rush out a high powered console in the middle of a changing console generation. Nintendo 64 and Playstation were out so long everyone logically figured that next gen was only a few years away. So buying a dreamcast was pointless. What we didn't know is that it would be the end for sega.

[traumadisaster]

Well also some gamers were mad with segas decision to release several consoles in a short time, that made people skittish to buy the DC.

They cried wolf too many times, and when they finally released the wolf no one listened since their credibility has dropped.

I remember seeing it for the first time playing a loop of nfl2k and the 3d models were so cutting edge "it looked like a real NFL game" the lineman came to line at bent over at DIFFERENT TIMES, not in unison like a robot.

[N4g_null]

Soul caliber sold me on it. The different fighting stances where endless. It was the small things that gamers want that made this console so big. Quake 3 was the icing for me. Incredible!

Imagine sega trying to use a scaled down titan z for the next dreamcast and a real nomad for the gamepad support! Sega is what truly pushed nintendo.