Examiner's David Leavitt writes: "Today Dec. 19, 2014 Boston Mass. independant video game developer Brianna Wu launched a Patreon campaign to battle Gamer Gate with feminism."
I really don't know what Gamergate is all about, but I have seen many articles of women claiming to be harassed from people from there. Don't know if it's true or not but seeing the way certain people act and post on here just makes me think that these allegations are not all just baseless complaints from women seeking attention. @-Foxtrot I am actually going to base this off of N4G and the internet in general. I am a member on other websites and as much as I hate the bubble system, I have to appreciate it sometimes when i get comments on other sites. Yes, I never see full blown attacks on women on this site, thank goodness. But the comments and attitude towards women is still concerning. I mean the recent article about GTA having a woman protagonist and the comments that followed where really disheartening.
"Don't know if it's true or not but seeing the way certain people act and post on here" You are going to base this all on N4G...really, not the best place to do that don't you think. Besides even if you did use N4G I never really see any users hating on women, maybe the odd immature "Giggity Goo" comment but nothing which would come across as a full blown attack. Thing is most people are too bothered about games, consoles, fanboy wars, sales, resolutions, frame rate etc to bother "attacking" women for no reason.
Anita sarkeesian debunked in under a minute. https://m.youtube.com/#/wat...
The media can keep throwing "Gamer Gate" in my face and I still won't care. Everyone is at risk to be harassed on the internet, whether you are a man, woman, or child.
They are all baseless complaints from women seeking attention. GamerGate is a consumer revolt against corruption, nepotism, cronyism, and the general lack of ethics in the gaming industry. The people claiming it's about harassment are doing so based on the experiences of 3 women. Zoe Quinn, who sleeps around with anything that moves to advance herself (she slept with her own married boss) Anita Sarkeesian. I'm sure you know of her. And this woman here, Brianna Wu, whose very first interaction with GamerGate was to call it a bunch of autistic children. It originally started when Zoe Quinn filed a false DMCA claim on a youtube video about her FREE "game" Depression Quest, not long after that her ex-boyfriend posted a rather long blog detailing how horrible a person she is and information came to light that she successfully shut down a program designed to help women enter the gaming industry by claiming that said program expected women to work for free. Funny that because her "game" was free so the outrage is odd. The blog mentioned 5 guys that Zoe slept with and one of them was a journalist for Kotaku, so it was believed she slept around for positive press for her "game", though that was an unfounded claim. All of this operated under the tag TheQuinnspiracy. Shortly after that, the gaming press decided to rally around her and authored no less than 10 articles declaring gamers to be dead, prompting actor Adam Baldwin to coin the tag GamerGate and shifting all focus to the blatant collusion going on within the gaming press. 4 months and counting, the movement has always been about the same thing. People like Zoe Quinn insist they want to move on with their lives, yet keep inserting themselves within GamerGate, calling it a movement of harassment against women and trying to exclude women from gaming despite thousands of women supporting GamerGate. Those same women who support GamerGate receive vicious harassment for being on the "wrong" side all the time.
Interesting, I'm going to have to do some more looking into. Because like I said, I see a bunch of articles of this coming up on this site but I never (rarely) comment because I really don't know what Gamergate or any of these women actually do.
At this point "Gamergate" has become nothing more than a trigger word for extremist feminist like terrorism has become one for government leaders to justify excessive use of deadly force against anyone they deed to use it against.
"I mean the recent article about GTA having a woman protagonist and the comments that followed where really disheartening." What was disheartening exactly? People clearly stated they don't care whether or not its a female , they just dont want it to be forced , if R* create a story about a guy and change it to include a female in place , we don't think they should only to cater to these people just so they can shut up , art is art is art , you don't go around telling people what they should paint or not . Imo
Exactly. Now, instead of helping gaming all this rush to add female characters to appease some activists or popular view presented game devs an uphill battle when they try to do so and gamers are not particularly wrong in their cynicism. If they want to release a new female game character, make her an interesting one. Focus on her character and her abilities-make her awesome. Don't give her an external baggage(added due to pressure or agenda from outside party) that will certainly kill any interest on her. Remember Me was initially interesting but when they focus so much on the female character's development-how difficult it was to bring a female character into a male dominated market- instead of how awesome she is with the game mechanic, I lost interest. I want to know about the character, the game world and mechanics, not the politics. Now the same dev is making a new game with more female characters called Life is Strange. So far the game looks interesting and they have a good trailer that nicely presents the world, characters, plot, tone and potential gameplay elements-exactly what they did in the early promotional phase of Remember Me. I hope they don't mess it up again by shoving some politics or agenda guiding their decisions down out throats like in the later promotional phases of Remember Me.
"Remember Me was initially interesting but when they focus so much on the female character's development-how difficult it was to bring a female character into a male dominated market- instead of how awesome she is with the game mechanic," No. The central game element was of vary limited value to the overall game. There were only a very few instances when it was used, and then only one result was possible. If there had been multiple result which then resulted in branching story lines, then it likely would have been a different story. And then again such would have had to have been done right. What sex the character was, was not a factor.
This Gaf post gives you a pretty decent rundown of what's actually happened (as opposed to what's been alleged); http://www.neogaf.com/forum... or this one; http://rationalwiki.org/wik...
I wouldn't take anything from NeoGaf as fact. As anyone who is pro GG gets banned. Just look at boogie2988. They are the biggest echo chamber around and PC (politically correct) group you will ever find. Just look at what they did to Tekken 7.
I like Gaf but they have decided to be anti-GG. I wish they would just be non-biased about it.
They are as unbiased as they need to be. If you have a decent argument against something there and relevant stuff to back it up with, you wont get banned. If all you do is throw out accusations or assertions based on nothing but theories pulled out of the air, then you're going to get pulled up on it. Besides, the Gaf post basically is just a good source for a selection of articles that give a solid basis on what has happened.
ginganinja: gaf is the worst place to gain information about GamerGate. One of the admins went on an anti-GG powertrip all over twitter and has banned so many pro-GG'ers that you could never say they are neutral.
@ginganinja LOL WUT? Neogaf is a terrible place. I try to avoid any website that bans it user just for their opinions. Its pretty disgusting if you think about it.
I think you'll find most places are 'biased against gamergate', including the wiki page on it; http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... (along with it's co-founder Jimmy Wales)...
Gaf is a good place for discussion about anything but gamergate or social representation in games. There is no alternative points of view there, you either follow the herd in these threads condemning males. White males or gamers in general as scum of the earth or your banned, all the while anyone and everyone can free attack you as the mods do nothing. If they don't join the mob in stringing you up. At least on n4g when someone insults you or tell you to fuck off, they don't bury it 2 to 3 paragraphs of touting their own superior morality, while treating you like the spawn of the devil.
Brianna Wu launches Patreon campaign to spin misandrism. FIXED.
"Brianna Wu launches Patreon account that has no financial accountability to its backers." Now its fix. (For the - third? - time.)
"Brianna Wu launches Patreon campaign to steal peoples money and laugh in secrecy while she does it" My take =)
oo, nice cash grab, i want a piece!!
How can this be a cash grab when you can get money from mommy and daddy when ever you want? Yet Brinna wants to talk about privilege http://i.imgur.com/elwNolo....
LMFAO! Brianna Wu is literally poking every bee hive she comes across, and kicking a hibernating bear at the same time by trying this. Feminism won't stop GamerGate because GamerGate isn't about women. It's absolutely hilarious how someone whose first interaction with GamerGate was an insult meme, who was apparently so afraid for her life (based on a threat an INDIVIDUAL made with no association to GamerGate yet GG getting the blame for it) that she could appear on multiple national broadcasts where she avoided mentioning (or completely downplaying) the fact that she insulted thousands, who creates sockpuppet accounts to attack people unironically whilst saying NotYourShield is a giant sockpuppet account and that her sockpuppet account was "a joke", and who (like the other LWs) continuously claims that they just want to move on yet constantly inserts themselves in places no one cares about them, would even think about doing something like this. This woman, who received $200,000 from her parents to start her own gaming company, who epitomizes privilege is going to try and bilk people out of money with a Patreon campaign of such a frivolous, B.S. nature. Anyone who supports her deserves to be conned out of every red cent they possess. This is so sad I almost can't laugh at it.
All I read from people like you is how gamergate is not about women, or attacking women. But you never talk about what it is. Your whole comment is about Wu, and basically how terrible she is. All I read from you is negative and hateful toward any article dealing with women. People get harassed or threatened, and you attack and discredit them instead of the ones doing the attacking. Its strange to me how you fail to see that all the negativity focused towards gamergate comes from comments, and attitudes like yours. Gamergate is meant to be about ethics,cronyism, and nepotism in the games industry. But all I ever see is comments like yours, or worse, flat out insults and threats. You all use SJW as an insult, but if any of you actually cared about the things you claim gamergate to stand for, thats what you would be. I thinks its sad you're not, and I don't think its funny.
Christ sake....people have statated over and over what it is, the problem is you and others don't listen
This article is about Wu isn't it? Why wouldn't I talk about Wu if the article is about her and how she's trying to attack GamerGate? GamerGate is about trying to end the corruption, the cronyism/nepotism/collusion in gaming media. That's always been it's guiding principle. How is that hard to understand? "All I read from you is negative and hateful toward any article dealing with women." False. You read my negative comments against SPECIFIC women. Don't try to make the claim that I'm anti-woman because I'm anti-con artist and anti-feminist. "People get harassed or threatened, and you attack and discredit them instead of the ones doing the attacking." Again, SPECIFIC people. Plus I always say that I don't condone death threats and the like, but these 3 examples are people who either actively seek out harassment so they can make money off of it, or claim to want out and yet consistently reinsert themselves within the environment they claim is so hostile towards them. If GamerGate is about harassing women, why do thousands of women support it? Kind of an oxymoron don't you think? "Its strange to me how you fail to see that all the negativity focused towards gamergate comes from comments, and attitudes like yours." No it's not. The negativity comes from the SJW echo chamber who completely ignores the women, the PoC, and the LGBTQ people who support GamerGate and tries to completely silence them by claiming they don't exist or they are internalizing various forms of hate. "But all I ever see is comments like yours, or worse, flat out insults and threats." Then you've never been to the twitter feed. "You all use SJW as an insult, but if any of you actually cared about the things you claim gamergate to stand for, thats what you would be. I thinks its sad you're not, and I don't think its funny." No it wouldn't. Getting rid of corruption in gaming media has nothing to do with society or social justice. Which is precisely why GamerGate isn't about the harassment of women on principle alone. The SJWs have inserted what they claim to be social justice into the industry and attack anyone as anti-progressive for not falling in line. And personally, I don't give a damn what you think is "funny" or not. Enjoy your echo chamber.
I use SJW as an insult because I'm sick and tired of these so called progressive hipsters saying that they speak on my behalf for my minority status, and why I tell them they don't they act and say they know better then me when its coming from a white male hipster who probably never faced any hardship in life. this is why #notyourshield was made to not let this people continue acting so goddamn condescending and they can't handle that fact we don't need them.
Brianna Wu is such an attention seeker, when articles and journalists were trying to use Anita and Zoe as "victims" against GamerGate she just popped up out of nowhere and it came across like "OH I WANT TO GET INVOLVED ASWELL, I'M A VICTIM TOO". She then runs her mouth at the SMALLEST things, then when people calmly try to debate with her she pulls the victim card and makes it all about her. When these calm people start to get annoyed because she keeps making her mouth go she makes out like they are getting aggressive towards her. Just one of the many things she does (Might have to zoom in a bit). Causes arguments out of nothing. http://pbs.twimg.com/media/... She's honestly trying to make this whole thing about her when it's really not. GamerGate then have to stop trying to focus the REAL ISSUES and waste their time defending themselves from people throwing false allegations at them while the corrupt journalists just sit back and think "Oh thanks for defending us...SUCKERS" http://theralphretort.com/w... http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photo... https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.a...
That RalphRetort picture is golden. It just proves how much of a victim complex he/she has. If this person seriously felt threatened, she wouldn't continue to go on news sites and stating where she is staying or go to shoot. This just proves what we all speculated. The whole "Im scared so I wont be home for who knows how long" shtick is now clearly a facade
Exactly! Why won't she just do what the bullies and harassers want and just shut up already instead of standing up to them! Dammit, be silent, woman! /s Funny that Gamergaters have enough time to go back and comb over photos to reveal that Brianna Wu did interviews out of her office (I know. Shocking!) or search back through years of comments to hang their latest target with but couldn't be bothered in the beginning to simply Google reviews of Depression Quest to see there was no truth to ZQ's ex-boyfriend's claims. Considering GG is supposed to be about ethics in journalism, it certainly seems to spend a lot of time raging against feminists and game devs yet next to zero effort actually going after journalists or finding evidence of any widespread wrongdoing. Odd that. Here's hoping we see some arrests of GG's soon now that the FBI is involved. I'm sure Gamergaters are also excited to finally expunge those bad elements from their midst so they can get back to...umm.... Wait, what the hell do they want again? Does anyone even know?
darkride, GamerGate has long since moved on from Zoe Quinn while you're stuck in August. It's frickin' sad. "Considering GG is supposed to be about ethics in journalism, it certainly seems to spend a lot of time raging against feminists and game devs yet next to zero effort actually going after journalists or finding evidence of any widespread wrongdoing. Odd that." You're blind. Every day there are boycott goals of the day targeting journalism sites known to be corrupt. Of course you wouldn't know that because you're too busy watching Wu's MSNBC segment on repeat ad nauseum every day. "Here's hoping we see some arrests of GG's soon now that the FBI is involved. I'm sure Gamergaters are also excited to finally expunge those bad elements from their midst so they can get back to...umm...." Yes, here's hoping the FBI finally shuts people like you up when it discovers that the threats being made had nothing to do with GamerGate and likely came from a Wu supporter trying to make her a star. "Wait, what the hell do they want again? Does anyone even know?" Everyone but you SJWs darkride, everyone but you SJWs.
Wu it's a well known liar at this point. It has been proven that she never leave her home and many other things. In fact, she got caught lying again yesterday. lol Just take a look at this and laugh: http://www.gamespot.com/api... Bonus for more lulz: https://www.youtube.com/wat... https://www.youtube.com/wat...
is this a joke? lol
Lepine. We need you pal.
So now she is trying to make more money doing BS wolf crying? I can swear many journalist, sites, and blogs were claiming "gamergate is over" isnt she contradicting her friends??
HAHAHAHA! What a cash grab! holy shit! Do people actually believe this is to battle Gamergate? There's nothing to battle! What are they going to do that they haven't done already? They censored us, they lied to the media about us, they insult us calling us misogynist. Come on people, please don't buy into this crap. It blows my mind how people continue to believe her just because she screams misogyny. Gamergate isn't even about her! It never was! Brianna please, just stop.
Yes because "fighting GamerGate with feminism" means anything. Feminism is a large part of the problem. Wu's just a leech trying to make money off of pretending internet flames are driving her from her home.
I honestly thought this was a Satire article! Wow!
I'm sure she's one of the people who's received the most harassment during these past months but the fact that she's making a ton of money of it is the reason why many don't take her seriously. She has already put up a (and I quote from her twitter) "legal defense fund for women targeted by GamerGate... These cases might be mine, or they might be other women by GamerGate." If Wikipedia is to be trusted, she got at least $11,000 from that. Numbers of internet trolls prosecuted so far : 0 Numbers of internet trolls who will get prosecuted : 0
The only thing intriguing to me about Wu is the stuff about the possibility of her being a man in a past life. (Google it.) Outside of that, she claimed Gamergate was dead over the Summer and that was the dumbest thing she could do. Now I suppose she believes GG isn't dead. I'm not pro or anti GG but I sure like reading about the war taking place on both sides. Both sides expending tons of mental energy and money on each other. Intellectuals really hurting each other. It's amazing to watch.
possibility? last life?
She's transgender. I knew that from day one. It's literally not important though. Douchebaggery doesn't discriminate no matter what the sex or gender.
Where's the double face palm meme when u need it?
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