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Bungie and Ubisoft could learn from a Goat – Paid DLCs and the Hype-Train

MWEB GameZone Writes: "Hard-hitting, AAA developers such as Bungie and Ubisoft could all learn from Coffee Stain Studios, developer of the comedic Goat Simulator game.

Here is why AAA developers should take a close look at the Goat and hopefully change their stance on paid DLCs and pre-launch hype."

CongoKyle3862d ago

When I saw Goat MMO simulator yesterday I thought it was a joke :O They could learn a thing or two from a lot of competitive AAA devs

Sillicur3862d ago

Hahaha, it kinda is a joke, but the 1.2 update is very real.

Could it be the GOATY (GOTY)?

lord zaid3862d ago

"The unfortunate truth is that games sell on hype instead of actual quality." - That is the gospel truth right there. Amen.

Sillicur3862d ago

Indeed, though it is a sad sad truth :( Maybe one day things will change, yet it wont be easy

lord zaid3861d ago

Assassin's Creed Unity is the perfect example of this. However, i would say that that game's failings were a bit of a surprise. I mean there have been like a million of them already and they all worked great.

CongoKyle3861d ago

Couldn't agree more. We've now replaced marketing strategies with pure hype trains.

Sillicur3861d ago

Exactly, and those hype trains can never be lived up to by any game :(

WeAreLegion3861d ago

In their first couple of weeks, yes. However, a dip in quality will harm lifetime sales. Just look at pre-order numbers for COD:AW vs. COD: Ghosts. People stop trusting companies when they release bad games.

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Sillicur3861d ago

Could Goat MMO Simulator be the GOATY?!?!?!

Mikefizzled3861d ago (Edited 3861d ago )

I guess the difference is Goat Simulator made way more money that the developers put in. Destiny and Cod aren't cheap to develop and expansions won't be cheap either. And Activision is a business first and a publisher second.

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Report: Inside Ubisoft's Project Renaissance, a Cancelled Minecraft-Like Voxel Game

In recent years, Ubisoft has canceled several games, one of them being a project code-named Renaissance.

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"Everything Happening To Bungie Is Because of Greed" -ex-employees

Ex- employees Hope Studio Gets "Consolidated Into Sony"

Former Bungie employees speak out in a new report, blaming greed and leadership for the studio’s troubles, and say full Sony consolidation is the best way forward.

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dveio23d ago

Interesting article, even with some actual names of the people voicing their thoughts.

I think that we've had enough similiar situations at other studios and publishers already, hell even completely different businesses, to know that OF COURSE it's always about hostile environments at work and the search for rather effortless profits than causing excitment with great ideas.

All deflecting statements, wether from managements or other people in charge, have always, literally always been untruthful. Always.

And it's so silly.

Nothing of this crap causes a nuclear war.

But all the people in charge act like everything is top secret f'n CIA like intel, trying everything to not stand up for their mistakes.

I mean it's pathetic, it really is. In the brand scheme of it all it's truly pathetic.

robtion22d ago

Let me just fix this:

'Everything Bad Happening in 'The world' Is Because of Greed'

Bravo captain obvious.

Obscure_Observer23d ago

All of sudden consolidation is now a good thing.

Eonjay23d ago

Right I actually agree with you here. Something doesnt' seem right almost like Sony wants them to look bad because it is trying to takeover. I can't figure out Sony's intentions here but they are already wholely owned so full consolidation means that they can bring in their own management. And honestly this is probably NOT what Bungie wanted.

Obscure_Observer23d ago

"Well the obvious answer to that is that it kinda looks like Bungie is getting torn to shreds without Sony's help. And clearly there is no way Sony is going to spend all that money and not step in to help steady the ship at Bungie because that would be a huge wasted investment."

Exactly!

Phil allowed Pete Hines to run the show at Bethesda and we got Redfall as result. Now that he´s gone and Bethesda reports directly to Matt Booty at XGS, things are definitely getting better!

It´s past time to Sony to take over Bungie and fire that POS Pete Parsons.

-Foxtrot23d ago

Sony has literally given these guys chance after chance, they gave them an extra BILLION to try and keep talent along with telling them to sort their s**t out

What else can they do here? They gave them free reign, extra money and they've spat in their faces.

If they took full control when they bought them they might have been able to salvage them.

TheColbertinator23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Bungie will be torn to shreds with Sony in full control. Another addition to the cemetery like Zipper or Sony Liverpool

Eonjay23d ago

Well the obvious answer to that is that it kinda looks like Bungie is getting torn to shreds without Sony's help. And clearly there is no way Sony is going to spend all that money and not step in to help steady the ship at Bungie because that would be a huge wasted investment.

MrBeatdown23d ago

Whatever mental gymnastics you just went through must be exhausting.

It sounds like you have some baggage from Microsoft's acquisition spree.

SimpleDad23d ago

Bungie was indie, so they depended on in game monetization. Sony makes money from other sources: music, movies, psn, ps hardware...

...so devs are hoping by full Sony consolidation they will cut down the monetization part, and make things easier for them...

...but keep in mind, Sony bought them because of their monetization and live service model and design, so much so they tried to make every Sony IP into a live service spinoff.

So I don't see much change in anything, for us consumers, if Sony takes full control.

Michiel198922d ago

i don't think you know what the word Indie means. Bungie has be under the hood of MS for a long time and basically were under the actiblizz hood while they were making Destiny. They are one of the biggest AAA studios, the polar opposite of indie. Technically they weren't owned, but they made deals with Acti like they were. Indie refers to smaller independent studios and don't need in game monetization at all to work. Hades for example has 0 ingame purchase options yet made a lot of money.

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It’s Just Over For ‘Marathon’

Marathon has always been teetered on the edge of future failure, but now that seems set in stone after recent events.

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CrashMania26d ago

Paul Tassi is a known xbox/MS stooge.

Saying that, Marathon looks so meh to me, absolutely no interest at all.

JEECE26d ago

Once he wrote an article characterizing Horizon Forbidden West, which came out over a year after the PS5 released, as a PS5 "launch game." Assuming this was just a mistake, I pointed out to him that "launch games" for a console are widely understood to be the games that come out on the day of a console's launch or in the immediate window thereafter. He responded and told me that he understood "launch game" to mean a game that launches, which would mean that every game that releases on a console is a "launch game" for that console.

I've basically ignored everything he has said since then. But I don't care about Marathon either way; playing Hunt: Showdown turned me off this genre pretty much.

Killer2020UK25d ago

He sounds like a stubborn moron

babadivad25d ago

It's releasing on Xbox...

Notellin25d ago

He's a Sony and Destiny fanboy. Has been forever. He plays Destiny 2 on PS5, what are you even talking about?

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neutralgamer199226d ago

If I was running Sony why would I not try to have bungie reboot Killzone and have it as their Halo. Honestly I don't know how Sony could justify that 3.6 billion purchase price. Insomniac games at 256 million has been their greatest acquisition in Playstation history for what they have already delivered and what's the pipeline

Profchaos26d ago

The smart money would have given them killzone but they brought them to be a pillar of their live services investment and seeming have no interest in allowing them near a single player story driven game again.

Lightning7725d ago

The bigger mistake imo is not having them do any SP projects. Just all LS stuff.

Also want to clear up some misinformation on my part about Marathon. It wasn't due to creative differences as to why Jade left it was due to early internal Play tests were reportedly not received very well. Which probably prompted her to leave. My fault on that.

Ghostwood26d ago

It does look like ass shit.

Would pulling the plug now make any difference or is Bungie thoroughly cooked regardless?

peppeaccardo26d ago

Since when Forbes is relevant for the gaming community?

Profchaos25d ago

Have a read and you can't say they are not wrong.

S2Killinit25d ago

I had a read and it was pure hyperbole

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