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PS4 Share Play hosting doesn’t work well with 15/2mbps

Chicago, Illinois is one of our nation’s biggest cities, and as such should be counted on to provide fairly reliable internet connections speeds. Unfortunately, various circumstances have resulted in my only being able to obtain cable internet with 15mbps download and 2mbps upload speeds and I’ve found out firsthand that isn’t good enough for PS4 Share Play.

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IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3844d ago

I had to post this. 15/2 internet speeds? You can't stream movies effectively with those speeds so why would anyone expect SharePlay to work?

Death3844d ago

According to Netflix, they require 5 Megabits for HD streaming. https://help.netflix.com/en... If you can't use Shareplay on a connection that is three times higher than this, it kind of limits the feature doesn't it? Is it really expecting too much for Sharplay to work on a 15/2 connection?

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3844d ago (Edited 3844d ago )

That 5 mbps is for HD streams. The Minimum internet speeds for neflix is .5 mbps. SharePlay streams at 720p and it uploads the game before streaming it, UNLIKE NETFLIX. So in essence, the higher your upload speeds the better Share Play will work. Thanks for not researching the topic before commenting, as usual.

Death3844d ago

I'm pretty sure most of us know higher internet speeds are better. The question I'm asking is what is the point of Shareplay if the real world requirements are so high only a small percentage of PS4 owners can use it? As for the game being "uploaded" before streaming, you may want to research how Shareplay works. When someone Shareplays on your console, you are acting like the host in the way PSNow does. The work is being done on your console remotely and the image is being compressed and sent to the other system via streaming. The only thing the client system is uploading are coordinates.

Here's a video that shows how it works. http://venturebeat.com/2014...

GTgamer3844d ago

Oh look death trying to downplay something Playstation related nothing new here smh.
15/2 internet is mediocre and share play is more demanding than Netflix so why the hell y'all comparing them ಠ_ಠ.

Death3844d ago

I was replying to the op that said 15/2 isn't acceptable for streaming movies. Netflix is a movie streaming service with a recommended 5Mb connection speed. 15/2 is three times faster than the recommended HD streaming requirement.

Now it's your turn, please explain to me how Shareplay which streams the hosts game screen at 720p is more demanding than a movie in 720p. If what you say is in fact true, what are the minimum requirements for Shareplay to work and what do you think is an accurate percentage of users that have the minimum requirement?

As for me "downplaying" something Playstation related, I'm asking a realistic question. I'm not sure talking the feature up as being the greatest thing in world is doing anyone any favors if it doesn't actually work for them. Maybe spend less time trying to discredit what I say with a mouthful of nothing and try answering the question for those that may be interested in it. I couldn't find the specs on Sony's site. Maybe you will have better luck. Kick me a link if you find it, I would like to know.

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gamer78043842d ago

15/2 is a decent connection, not super fast, but not slow either, perfectly fine for streaming hd and playing multiplayer games.

kreate3842d ago

What about 15/15?
Cuz thats what im using lol

Pro_TactX3842d ago

I feel impelled to point out that while you are hosting, you are using your upload speed. If Netflix requires 5Mbps to stream HD movies, why would you expect to be able to upstream game content on only 2Mbps?

medman3842d ago

Compelled. You feel compelled.

Pro_TactX3842d ago (Edited 3842d ago )

Impel is the carrot, and compel is the stick. I wasn't forced in some way to make my point, but misinformation bothers me, so I had a motive to make my point, therefore I felt impelled.

Spotie3842d ago

You were bothered by the misinformation, which drove you to make the correction. Therefore, you were compelled.

Pandamobile3844d ago

A 2 Mb/s upload is pretty abysmal for streaming. That's only like 250 KB/s. Good luck trying to stream anything with those kinds of speeds.

gamer78043842d ago (Edited 3842d ago )

It's actually 256. Which If using good compression is capable of SD resolutions.

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Thatguy-3103844d ago (Edited 3844d ago )

I would hate living in areas that don't don't support 60mps+.
Everything now a days is so connected to the internet that it would be a hassle dealing with low connection.

Amuro3844d ago

people talk a lot about bandwidth but what about the ping?

Pandamobile3844d ago

Ping doesn't really matter that much for streaming.

Pandamobile3842d ago

As long as you aren't over like 120-150, it's not going to make a difference unless your bandwidth if awful too.

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Let's Play: Nex Machina Co-op Gameplay | PS4 Share Play

Short Pause: "Housemarque's latest twin-stick masterpiece, Nex Machina, released this week, and fans the world over are addicted to it's white-knuckle action and score-chasing gameplay! How does the high-intensity arcade action of the game hold up over Share Play? Check out this video to find out!"

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PS4 Share Play: Why it died and how VR can bring it back

Share Play on the PS4 was a great idea that never took off thanks to technical limitations. With PSVR, Sony has a unique opportunity to do something amazing with Share Play 2.0.

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Tetsujin2948d ago

Share Play didn't die, just needs a lot of work. Biggest issue is telling everyone they have either a poor or limited connection when a lot of the users are running 50+ Mbps Internet (I'm running 120 Down/ 30~ Up and it even says I'm on the poor end). I can download a 30 GB game off Steam in about an hour; yet PSN takes 90ish minutes minimum ,and that's with no one else online at the time, or even having a game running at all.

I use Share Play when it works, and it's a Godsend when it comes to seeing how certain games are, or to play something with local co-op (Double Dragon 4). The idea is there, and yes when it works it is a good feature; however it needs a ton of work to be effective.

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Silly gameAr2948d ago

It's another one of those blogs that use their opinion as fact. Shareplay is far from dead.

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PhoenixUp2948d ago

The feature didn't die it is still around

freshslicepizza2946d ago (Edited 2946d ago )

Do all PSVR games support it? Would be cool if all developers supported it.

Goldby2946d ago

some do, and to be honest it isn't the best feature for Share play with Vr, i have become sick as i watched a friend play through share play, i did experience some internet connection issues which may be part of the reason, but without the actual headset on, if the person showing off the Vr game doesn't remind himself that hes showcasing it, the jerky movements can cause some nauseating side effects

freshslicepizza2946d ago

That's true,VR works best if the experience is smooth in performance

CPTN MITCHELL2946d ago

Is the only thing keeping the xbox1 alive

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Share Play Vs. Backwards Compatibility: Which Is The Best Post Console Release Feature?

ThisGenGaming says "Share Play and Backwards Compatibility, both are pretty revolutionary advancements for consoles and they’re definitely not becoming old news. Share Play is one – if not the biggest – of Sony’s most popular features allowing users to seamlessly interact with friends and family meanwhile Backwards Compatibility a is feature most people would’ve expected from both Sony and Microsoft pre-release, however not only is this feature another fine addition to the Xbox One, it is potentially one of the greatest selling points, giving fans of the console more to talk about and play with. Both features were however post-release, which begs the question ‘Why weren’t these features implemented from the beginning?’."

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Thatguy-3103344d ago

Shareplay is pretty neat and one of the best features the ps4 has but the downside is that you really need good internet to use it. BC is pretty neat if your'e into playing your old games. Even though I'm not into playing my old games I would give it to BC simply because it's easier to obtain.

G20WLY3344d ago (Edited 3344d ago )

But with SharePlay you don't even have to own the games.
And my broadband is adequate, fortunately.
And I still have my last gen systems.

And...well, you get my point!

aconnellan3344d ago

And that's fair enough, but I would argue that not everyone can hold onto their last gen systems. Most people I know had to sell theirs to afford the upgrade.

t-hall7853343d ago (Edited 3343d ago )

That and i dont want a bunch of consoles laying around consuming extra power as well. Shareplay is cool though. I had a friend watch me on bloodborne to help me get through some parts. Definitely a much welcomed feature.

Cohagen4203344d ago

5 mbps is really not that much. I shareplayed MLB 16 the show with a friend who then went out and bought it.

FullmetalRoyale3344d ago

To be fair, some providers max you out at five, and that's for their most expensive package. It's utterly ridiculous.

ThunderPulse3344d ago

Never used shareplay cause my Internet sucks.

TheGreatGamer3344d ago

Backwards Compatibility is easier and Microsoft have done a really good job at bringing big games to BC so I'll give BC the edge, though I enjoy share play from time to time!

AudioEppa3344d ago

Both. Or neither if you don't care about features.

aconnellan3344d ago

"Or neither if you don't care about features"

Who doesn't care about features though? I would class the ability to play games on a console as a 'feature', albeit the main feature.

I would also argue that whoever ignores both Share Play and Backwards Compatibility under the guise of "they're only stupid features, I just want to play games" is actually then denying themselves the option to play an even bigger library of games by doing so

Paytaa3344d ago

I think Share Play is definitely more innovative for obvious reasons but BC is awesome too.

Don't really understand why there's a comparison. It'd be great if both had both features.

nosferatuzodd3344d ago (Edited 3344d ago )

I concur BC is so ps2 Sony started the whole BC then move away from it they try something new and innovative i give to share play
one more thing how is BC revolutionary when Sony did that trick almost a decade and a half ago on the ps2
and now its revolutionary maybe 10 yrs from now the next Xbox will have share play and everyone will say wow MS is soo revolutionary lol please

Paytaa3344d ago

Well I mean you could also argue that since Sony made it standard, why did they abandon it?

I encourage companies to innovate so they impact the industry as a whole and I think Share Play is just that. Who would have thought someone can play a friends game but not physically having the game? It's really cool.

Share Play is more of an innovative idea while BC is an added bonus that adds value but isn't necessarily required.

Aloy-Boyfriend3344d ago

I don't blame them for abandoning it.

People complained about the Price of the PS3 and went with the cheaper aternative.

I blame everyone for that and these underpowered consoles we have today. Then with our current consoles and the with the rumored PS4k and Xbox upgradabe we will end up paying what we could have payed day one and have been stuck for an entire generation.

Bigpappy3344d ago

do you really believe Sony started BC?

Zeref3343d ago (Edited 3343d ago )

Its not revolutionary it's just an awesome feature yo have.

Nivekki3343d ago

'I concur BC is so ps2 Sony started the whole BC'

I think that was actually Atari, back in the 80's.

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kaizokuspy3344d ago

Easily shareplay. I have a 100 mbps connection and am hard pressed to find streamers that say BC would be better. I've tried many ps4 games online multiplayer before I bought them. It's also fun to use with games like jamestown, helldivers, broforce, etc. Sony sent a survey a while back mentioning the possibility of allowing more users to connect to shareplay and that would be great. BC is eh, I still own my old consoles and games, so unless it's a remaster with achievements/trophies, it's not something I am really interested in. Especially with all of the games releasing this year, there really is no point in BC to people like me who bought a new console for new games.

aconnellan3344d ago

I wish I had 100 mbps... I only max 5 mbps :(

kaizokuspy3343d ago

5 mbps was the standard $30/mo in my city 13 years ago :( that hurts my heart knowing gamers have to suffer that hellish speed.

Tobsesan3343d ago

So you are telling us you dont like bc because you want to play new games. Meanwhile you praise shareplay but play games with it that are also playable on last gen... With bc you can play your old games and get alot of them for free with gwg and preorder. You dont have to keep your old console to play those games and prefer of the new features and controller + you can play online crossgen.

kaizokuspy3343d ago

No my preference is shareplay. Backwards compatability on gwg is a silly feature in comparison to shareplay. You cannot play bf4 with 64 players last gen at 60 fps. Bc does not allow that. Use your brain. Why would I want to preorder a brand new game to play a game I already own that's years old, that doesn't offer a new experience or incentive to play through again? You see that's solid marketing. It's built up as an amazing feature, but rarely gets used by the masses. I prefer to keep my old console because it is smart to not get rid of something the moment it's obsolete. You can claim lack of space as much as you want, but as a hobby, I don't thrown out my game collections simply bc I can get it digitally. Point in case, will marvel vs Capcom 2 ever be backwards compatible. No, as soon as it's taken off the server the game will not function. Which is why backwards compatability in large part is a waste and really only sells the consumer short. In 20 years, will your backwards compatability be there? More than likely not on a console. Which is why it's good to keep your physical purchases and not go full blown digital. Sure there are pros to it. Short term pros, but long time cons. Point is, I can play any of my friends new or old games without paying for them vs playing only old games I already own. It does nothing for me as an avid gamer. It's a marketing ploy that isn't translating into a huge market capture by MS. Eitherway, shareplay > BC unless every title ever made is true BC without any stutters or takeaways from gameplay, you're selling your old things and not getting the full experience. You were sold a lie bud.

Tobsesan3343d ago (Edited 3343d ago )

But you still need your friend to come online to play a game with worse performance, which is what you dont like about the last gen version.
I can see some of your points. But every Xbox 360 game has the servers still online, while on the playtation side alot of server are down (resistance, MAG, etc..) and even servers from this gen with the older MLB games. Will you shareplay be still up in 20 years?

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