Xbox One Sales on the Rise

Yusuf Mehdi

"The response to this wave of blockbuster game releases and new bundles has been amazing, and sales have skyrocketed since the new price took effect on Nov. 2. Compared to the previous week, Xbox One sales in the US have more than tripled, which is exciting as more and more friends will be playing together this holiday. As we head into the busy holiday season Xbox One led generation 8 console sales in the US for the past two weeks. Shortly, we will have sold in to retailers more than 10 million Xbox One consoles."

[Manic2014]

Almost 10 Million Shipped, and sales have tripled in the past two weeks, That's good news, I'm betting the "Temporary" price drop will become permanent. They still gotta do something in Europe with the price. Wonder how much is sold through to consumers.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

10 million shipped is SHIT tons impressive.

[FITgamer]

"Shortly, we will have sold in to retailers more than 10 million Xbox One consoles." So they are giving out future shipped number?

@POG What i said is true, no need to take it to heart. "Shortly" means they have yet to ship 10 million.

[Mr Pumblechook]

It's another one of the Xbox Wire post that spouts a fact that has to be qualified by an asterisk. "*In the US, based on internal data."

U.S. only, i.e. not happening in other territories. Also 'internal data' that cannot be verified by external sources.

[FriedGoat]

No need for the bad language.

[ABizzel1]

As they should be.

Everyone's sales will be on the rise, because it's the holiday season.

But in the case of XBO, they had some good games launch, they dropped price $50 across the board for the month, they have a ton of promotions, and they launched in more regions during September. So their numbers should have increased as expected, and now that they're at a good price point $350 they can make that sell that much easier compared to the forced Kinect bundle for $500.

[TomShoe]

Before everyone flips out. This means sales have tripled since the price cut. That's on a week to week basis. Also that's 10 million shipped worldwide. Don't get confused by the PR spin doctors.

[HiddenMission]

Shipped to retailer and sold to customer very different.

NPD came out a few weeks back and the PS4 dominated in the US by a large margin. Every early report has the PS4 still selling better in the US.

We'll see when NPD comes out again I guarantee PS4 will be in the lead again.

Just remember cats like Phil and Michael Pachter said the X was selling way better than PS4 until NPD came out and then they both shut up again.

So I would wait and temper and hype for the whole XB1 won in sales.

[Kayant]

@AngelicIceDiamond

"I see the fanboy disagree squad in full forceful effect." - Interesting you say that but then use an article that tries to make 10m sold to customers mean the same as sold to retailers. Also this shows they are still not happy with the sold to customers figures if they are not willing to update it since January this year. Whilst Sony have updated their's at least 2 times this year.

http://news.xbox.com/2014/0...

@Tomshoe

Great point it's exactly the same kind of language as July NPD.

"Microsoft has clarified, stating that the doubling of Xbox One sales during August were for 'the last week of the month after Madden launched.' Basically, sales for the last week were a little less than twice that of the month prior, not the entire month’s sales."

http://www.craveonline.com/...

This also shows that October numbers were not too hot if they are already doing early PR talking about November.

[freshslicepizza]

im confused, are people actually upset the system is selling well? nobody is forcing anyone to buy one if they dont want but look at the brighter picture, the more people who get a new console whether it be a ps4 or an xbox one (seems like those are the only two systems people talk about here) the easier it will be for developers to make games for next generation hardware. unless of course you want them to continue making cross gen games.

we should be happy console sales are doing well, not getting upset because we still have competition out there.

[darthv72]

Great. the more XB1 in the wild the more support both the PS4 and XB1 will get from 3rd parties.

not knocking the 1st or 2nd parties but they generally pale in numbers to the 3rd parties when it comes to amount of games made available.

A good amount of 3rd party support will ensure a healthy platform life cycle.

[christocolus]

@angelice

Impressive indeed. Sold to retailers or customers which ever way haters wanna look at it,its still a very impressive figure.I knew sales were on the rise but I didn't expect this. 2 friends of mine got the SO bundle and its been getting some really positive buzz of late.MS must be pleased and i hope this means we get even more investment into AA games and tech. Phil and the team have done an incredible job in the past few months,they deserve this and a shout out to Nadella too for supporting and seeing value in xbox. Great times ahead. E3 will be awesome.

[freshslicepizza]

does anyone else find it almost laughable how the people at microsoft are just so eager to get some positive news out there? this early report to me suggest they lost october npd numbers to the ps4 again so they want to get the positive spin out there a day before those numbers get leaked. by telling everyone they are winning november so far they want everyone to ignore octobers results.

another thing to consider is how they keep saying sold-in to retailers, not to actual customers. i have no doubt the xbox one sales are doing well but this constant spin they do is getting annoying. every year they bulk up shipments to retailers so they can tout how many systems are out there and how they killed it during the holidays only to have pitiful sales from January to about April because they have so much stock available that didn't actually sell to consumers over the holidays.

[n4rc]

Omfg.. For the millionth time..

Go look at any Sony report on shipped to customers and notice the asterix..

Estimated.. Because they don't fkn know how many have been sold through.. They keep using it because se people have been fooled into think the difference means anything..

New flash.. Retailers don't order more then they can sell in short timeframe.. It costs money to warehouse a product they can buy on demand..

If they say 10m sold to retailers, that'll be sold to customers within 60 days..

[christocolus]

@moldybread

So its wrong for ms to announce this? Or thank gamers for their support?Its funny cos when sony announced 13.5m shipped it was ok and I'm sure you were ok with that. MS announces close to 10m shipped and its a problem now? What a bunch of kids. Its even more baffling to see those not interested in the xbox one coming in here to make all sorts od baseless and baffling comments.

“im confused, are people actually upset the system is selling well? nobody is forcing anyone to buy one”

Crazy right? I actually agreed with you on that.

@hiddenmission

Get your facts right. Phil spencer never said anything like that.

@N4rc

Its so funny.people trying so hard to put a negative spin on this, if you don't want an xbox one or even plan to own one then why does it bother these guys so much to see it selling well?

[freshslicepizza]

@christocolus

look at my previous comments, i certainly don't bash the xbox one or the ps4. what i am saying is the timing of it all. they announce this one day before the npd results are out. which suggests to me they lost october but want to ignore that by telling us they are so far winning november.

ask yourself this, why announce they almost reached 10 million now? i am not saying they shouldn't be saying anything. they need some good press but the timing of it to me is obvious, that's all.

i already said earlier its great imo they are selling well. it means publishers are not waiting for consumers to move on from old hardware. if you factor in ps4 and xbox one sales from just a year ago things are looking bright for console sales. something the media seems to sometimes think otherwise.

[Vladimir7]

I dont know if people on here realize that the most recent sony update on sales was 13.5 million SHIPPED. But when MS announces shipments its the end of the world /t

[4Sh0w]

I thought last announcement the naysayers said its shipped not sold so its gonna be a bunch of X1s on store shelves. I know what channel stuffing is but at some point the shipped vs sold to consumers doesn't make much difference because retailers aren't going to keep ordering more stock when they already have plenty to sell.

I don't know how long it will last but I'd expect X1 to outsell ps4 on occasion in the US, especially with the lower price and of course some amazing games as of late. I noticed last week one of the X1 bundles selling better on Amazon than ps4, the few times I've looked at Amazons bestseller all year ps4 was usually much higher than X1, indeed the X1 sales are split across more sku bundles so it's always difficult to make a decent comparison but again as of late on Amazon top 100 bestselling list, the X1 AC Unity bundle at #7 has been selling above ps4 only sku at #12, then also remember X1 has 2 other skus in the top 50.
http://www.amazon.com/best-...

-Obviously there is no way to know what the actual sales are but my point is Amazon is the largest online retailer, as such they are always a good indicator of strong sales, ps4 I believe has almost always been showing a higher sales pattern on Amazon and obviously has led NPD every month. I see no reason why folks doubt X1 having recent higher sales. Ultimately unless you own stock who cares?..There are alot of great products we all enjoy but they dont always sell more than everything else.

[NoDucks]

@HiddenMission

I doubt it. Xbox One is top of Amazon, Best Buy and Walmart.

[miyamoto]

sorry to sound so unimpressed
but how many times are we gonna go through this wishful thinking hype
only to let tons of eager fans down?

what kind of pr hype do you expect from a MIcrosoft pr website, the exact opposite
way to hype an unknown future
I am sure they said the same thing last christmas season and yet there were tons of day one xbox one units no one wants to buys

[gatormatt80]

From the article... "Xbox One led generation 8 console sales in the US for the past two weeks."

How the heck does MS know how many units Sony sold for the past two weeks to claim that???

[Kayant]

@n4rc

"Estimated.. Because they don't fkn know how many have been sold through.. They keep using it because se people have been fooled into think the difference means anything.. " - Right which is why MS has never given sold through numbers before oh wait... - "Over 3 million Xbox One consoles were sold to consumers in 13 countries before the end of 2013. It’s been incredible to see Xbox One selling at a record-setting pace for Xbox"

http://news.xbox.com/2014/0...

Yes clearly signs of there not being a difference between sold through and sold in /s. I mean it's not like MS/Sony/Nintendo/Pubs etc pay thousands of dollars for data on sold-through estimated numbers with trackers like Gfk(Europe), NPD(US).

"If they say 10m sold to retailers, that'll be sold to customers within 60 days.." - Case A spinning and BS right here. If that was the case they would have boasted about updated sold-through numbers already.

[n4rc]

Ahh.. Class a spin by the guy that's only argument is they havent boasted about it so it hasn't happened. Seriously? That's the best you could come up with?

I worked in supply chain management for over 5 years.. I'm fully aware of how retailers order products and exactly what warehousing costs because that was my job..

Any buyer that's over ordering products that aren't selling are fired in short order..

Standard invoice terms are usually 60 days to settle a PO.. And any well run business will have them sold before paying their invoice.

[Kayant]

@n4rc

"Seriously? That's the best you could come up with? " - Well please tell me why else they haven't done so if they felt the need to say it then and have not felt the need to do so for 10 months?

"I worked in supply chain management for over 5 years.. I'm fully aware of how retailers order products and exactly what warehousing costs because that was my job.. " - Yh really showing your knowledge there but saying sold-in and sold-through mean the same thing.

Again if that was the case they wouldn't pay for the data none would they have felt the need to use different terms in January and now. And on the Sony disclaimer. Well of course they are estimates, it would be hard to get absolute figures for anything like that is sold around the world. The point is the figures refer to different things either Sold in to retailers or Sold through. Both don't mean the same thing there is a reason companies use sold in and not sold through when doing quarterly reports apart from it not mattering to the company at that stage in terms of revenue, it is always the bigger number.

http://seekingalpha.com/art...

[pompous]

It would be if it wasn't the holiday season right around the corner. All it means is they are channel stuffing so stock is there for the holiday shopping season, nothing more.. So it's really not impressive given the time of the year..

[BeefCurtains]

Lots of PS4 comparison and analysis on this thread... This is not a sales comparison, this is just positive sales news for X1, which is good for the X1 gamers. Not every piece of positive x1 news needs to evolve I'm to a fanboy argument...

Microsoft has made several drastic and positive changes over the past few months, coupled with amazing console updates and game releases. Then top it off with price cuts and great bundles, you can't argue that it's a good time to be an X1 gamer right now. This has nothing to do with PS4, and based on the content of this comment, I'm willing to bet any disagrees are salty PS4 fanboys (not all ps4 owners are fanboys or salty...)

[Angeljuice]

Why can't they be honest and open for once and give the units SOLD figures.

Microsoft are so patronising, they think we're all idiots who don't know the difference.

If you don't take part in the race, you can't lose it right Microsoft?

[Major_Glitch]

Lol. So...sales matter again eh? I wish the Xbox only crowd would make up their minds.

[Athonline]

I don't understand why people really want a system to fail. If XBox started selling good, it is win-win for everyone.

XBOne owners will keep getting 3rd party support and Microsoft can justify to its shareholders to keep supporting the platform.

PS4 owners/potential buyers: Means Sony will get a few bundles out or will invest more into exclusives.

Competition = consumers' best friend

[Docknoss]

I have an avid Sony guy here at work and he just bought the AW Bundle. Now he's stopped being so biased.

[ABizzel1]

And do you have a PS4?

[GodGinrai]

"I have an avid Sony guy here at work and he just bought the AW Bundle"

Yeah...that console is stunning in the...plastic! I own one too! But ABizzel1 is right. I think you should do your friend the same grace and pick up a PS4 (in white...I wish I had THAT model instead of the black. I am an xbox guy (like yourself) but I still figured PS4 is worth a place next to my beloved X1. And it is to be fair. I only bought it for sony exclusives. so trust me when I say, It compliments the X1, nicely.

[Bigpappy]

If I was going to get a ps4. I don't see the reason to get one until sometime next year. Right now the hottest games ate on Xbox and wiiU

[BX81]

@bigpapi
I agree, if ur a multi console owner the ps4 has less to offer right now. I would hold off for a bit.

[Saigon]

@BX81

I just pointing out and hoping you see that your comment makes no sense.

[Masterchief_thegoat]

Keep on hating, sony and big n used word shipment alot but ms can't. In busisness world shipment=sold

[uptownsoul]

In the business world shipment may = sold…But to publishers shipment = nothing…Because to a publisher a console on a store shelf doesn't sell publishers' games…And don't forget Microsoft is relying on 3rd parties for most of their exclusives, so they need to get 3rd party publishers on board with the Xbox One. But that is made harder if there's a vast gap in 8th generation consoles in living rooms

[Manic2014]

I wasn't hating I was praising.

[HiddenMission]

No it doesn't sold means sold to customer because it's software that's important and if you sold to retailer but not to customer then you don't move software.

The big 3 use sold through to customer to illustrate customer base. They use ship to retailer to obscure the actual customer base and all 3 do this when they're not in 1st or beating their competitor.

Don't try to spin

[GodGinrai]

@uptownsoul

"And don't forget Microsoft is relying on 3rd parties for most of their exclusives, so they need to get 3rd party publishers on board with the Xbox One."

Thats an odd thing to say at a time when XB1, multiplats are considered inferior to PS4 counterparts. Especially at a time When FH2, SSO and halo are more compelling games than their third party counterparts.

[Oner]

@ HiddenMission

There is an exception to your rule ~

"The big 3 use sold through to customer to illustrate customer base. They use ship to retailer to obscure the actual customer base and all 3 do this when they're not in 1st or beating their competitor. "

Sony is that exception. They have shown to be the one that consistently shows Sell Through even when behind. The previous gen of PS3 sales figures released proves this. Which I might add they continue to do with the PS4 (even though not behind and could use Sell In #'s to make it look even worse for MS...of which they don't).

Other than that slight addendum (IMHO), I completely agree with your point. Well Said.

[Angels3785]

As someone who works in IT\operations management

Saying: "in the business world shipped equals sold"

Is one of the most basic narrow minded observations of BASIC business I have ever heard.

My friend, you need to look into something almost EVERY major tech company is almost forced to do by retailers which is

"CONSIGNMENT SALES"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Essentially even if you "sell" to retailers you don't make your money until the retailers have sold it through to consumers. This is to ensure protection against a product being a total flop...why should retailers assume responsibility for a failed product of a manufacturer?

Microsoft got a lot of flak for this recently with their windows RT surface platform.

Not only were they using inflated sales numbers, but they even posted consignment sales as REAL sales....which is ILLEGAL in accounting (lucky for them it was never on an official accounting document that had to be audited).

Consignment sales are a liability until the date of sale. Only after the sale is made do consignment sales become assets and therefore cash in hand to a company.

Microsoft inflated surface numbers to make their underperforming surface sales look better than they were

This made it look like (to investors) they had more money in their pocket because people like you go "WOW 10 million shipped equals money in their pocket for 10 million units?!?!?"

That ended up not being true and a class action lawsuit against Microsoft was filed by top level investors.

also...for perspective. You couldn't even successfully spell BUSINESS properly in your post.

Just shows how credible you are.

[neocores]

^Lol tripled? Then that means ps4 is selling quad more then the xbox one

[Manic2014]

Well if you read the article, it's been leading in (US) sales since the price drop.

[aceitman]

But November 1st numbers shows ps4 won 1st week. So something is not right.

[tiffac008]

The price drop and bundles started on Nov 2 for the X1. So its safe to say the X1 has been leading the US since then.

[coolvibu93]

@aceitman

The sales of november 1st are actually from october 25th to november 1st. They said in the article the pricecut became effective November 2nd. We'll have to wait a bit longer to be sure.

[oof46]

I'll never get the "Hahahaha! My system is selling more than your system! Hahahaha" mentality.

Sony is in a position of power and can play the waiting game with any price cut. However, for those interested in an Xbox One, the recent price cuts and bundles have been great.

Buy one, buy them all, but most of all, enjoy what you have without having to demean others.

[Magicite]

will they ever reveal sold through?

[Sitdown]

According to n4g, they will if there numbers are better than Sony's.

[Automatic79]

Congratulations to MS and Xbox teams. I predicted that you guys would get close soon enough and now its happening. Gamers are speaking with there wallets. Having a great lineup of games helps

Just to name a few

D4
Dance Central
Forza Horizon 2
Killer Instinct Season 2
Sunset Overdrive
Disney Fantasia
Halo MCC
Ori blind forest
Halo Guardians beta

Fantastic holiday.

[MRMagoo123]

Riiiight so 2 weeks of good sales for the xbone because of a price drop and free game in the holidays along with the halo collection means they are getting close ? It will last as long as the price drop and they will still be getting outsold world wide, you know what that means ? it means the gap is still growing maybe slower but still growing.

[ger2396]

With the price cuts and free games, I'd be really surprised if sales didn't pick up substantially.

[Letthewookiewin]

Weak list bro.

[SonyAddict]

Dude they are nowhere near close lol you're mad crazy..

[OUROSMAG]

You do know what "we will have sold in to retailers more than 10 million Xbox One consoles."

right? IN not through.

[chrismichaels04]

Sony announced PS4 *sold* 10 million back in August. MS announced XB1 *almost shipped* 10 million in November. How is that "getting close"?

You're ignoring all of the PS4's that Sony has actually sold since August. And it took two of Xboxs biggest names in the same month (Halo and Call of Duty)...plus a huge price drop to do it.

Its great Xbox is having a good couple of weeks. Congrats! But lets be realistic and dont get carried away.

[Automatic79]

Wow look at all the salty fanboys hating on MS. What's sad is that most only pop up on sales talk but when there games don't do well, or there online is suffering you don't here a whisper. Really sad how these keyboard warriors represent there brand.

[chrismichaels04]

@MichaelLito - i cant speak for anyone else, but I have been very vocal about how successful PS4 has been this year while never once bashing xbox. I also said it was great xbox is showing strong sales this month and congratulated them.

Dont get over sensitive just because people are telling you to be realistic. Youre taking Microsoft PR spin of *almost shipping* 10 million consoles and comparing it to PS4s 10 million *sold* numbers from 3 months ago while completely ignoring all of the PS4s Sony has sold since August.

"PS4 games dont do well"? The Last of Us Remastered (95), Final Fantasy Realm Reborn (86), MLB14 The Show (83) and Infamous Second Son (80) are a few examples of PS4 games that have done very well. Youre the only one acting salty dude. No need to get defensive.

[Automatic79]

@ChrisMichael

While my comment was not ment for you it is funny that you took it personal, or felt that I was sensitive or un realistic when in fact I have been supporting the Xbox one even in the days you felt that they were stuck at 5 million sales. Hope that's realistic enough. Lol, By the way no need to show your insecurity by posting scores. I think you can read and see who owns the holidays. Feel free to jump in. The collection of exclusives you can't find on PC are growing. Just to name a few Killer Instinct 2, Forza Horizon 2, Forza 5, D4, Sunset Overdrive, Halo Master Chief Collection, Max and the Cursed Brotherhood. Just for fun and to answer you back "PS4 games that don't do good" DriveClub says hello. Which by the way every game on the list that I provided is better. :)

[chrismichaels04]

@MichaelLito - How am I taking anything personal? Im simply responding to your reply comment. The fact that youre trying to single me out specifically after so many other people have disagreed with you proves that my true words struck a sensitive nerve with you.

"Even in the days you thought they were stuck at 5 million sales."
MS themselves reported back in April that they *shipped* 5 million units. That was 7 months ago. We are only just now finally hearing a new update from them. Dont blame me for that.

How am i being insecure? Youre the one that claimed PS4 games "dont do well". I proved you wrong by listing some really good AAA retail exclusives that did very well on PS4 (and even better than most of the Xbox games you praise). Now youre trying to backpedal because the review scores proved you wrong.

[chrismichaels04]

2014 Highest rated retail exclusives (so far):
1. PS4 - The Last of Us - 95
2. WiiU - Bayonetta 2 - 91
3. Xone - Halo Collection - 89

PS4 Retail Exclusives: The Last of Us Remastered (95), Final Fantasy Realm Reborn (86), MLB14 The Show (83), Infamous Second Son (80), Samurai Warriors 4 (75), Killzone Shadow Fall (73), Drive Club (70), Knack (54) and LittleBigPlanet 3.

Xbox Retail Exclusives: Halo MC Collection (89), Titanfall (86), Forza Horizon 2 (85), Sunset Overdrive (82), Forza 5 (79), Fantasia (79), Dead Rising 3 (78), Kinect Sports (60), Ryse (60) and Fighter Within (23).

[MonkeyOne]

Doesn't matter

The Microsoft Xbox venture has been failure from a profitability and growth standpoint. They've lost billions and they will never recover.

Just so that everybody doesn't just think I am some Sony apostle.

The Playstation brand has been a disaster since the highly successful PS2 era ended. They're lost billions and will NEVER see that investment back.

Microsoft and Sony and now locked in a game of suicide chicken.

Neither will win.

Do not rate or respond without reading the industry analysis of how the console market financials are playing out.

THERE ARE NO PROFITS.

[Christopher]

Who would have thunk if you cut your price to $350 and gave away at least one free game (if not more), you would see sales increase (read: price your console at $289).

Amazing. It's like they are losing money to make sales or something...

[Alsybub]

That has, historically, been the case with every generation that has gone before.

Sony and Microsoft have always sold their systems at a loss to gain market share and have hoped to gain that money back from software and services. Even when the PS3 was released they were making something like a $200 loss on every unit, at that price.

This is the first generation that they have tried to do otherwise and it has hurt Microsoft and so they're reverting back to the old formula and it's starting to work. Sony didn't have a choice but to have some kind of profit in the PS4, they didn't have the money to lose any more. While it is a more powerful system than the X1 the whole design and architecture was born out the need to cut manufacturing costs from the start. Using near off the shelf components and unified memory allows them to do that. The good thing is that because of necessity Sony has stumbled upon a winning formula. They now have a system that is easier to program for and is more affordable for the masses from the start and they're not making losses on every sale.

The only manufacturer that has always made a profit on hardware, from day one, is Nintendo. So, while Sony and Microsoft get all of the market share - Wii being the exception - Nintendo has always, quietly, turned a profit.

[Christopher]

***That has, historically, been the case with every generation that has gone before. ***

That is not true.

***The only manufacturer that has always made a profit on hardware, from day one, is Nintendo.***

PS2 and PS4 both earned a profit from day one. Xbox 360 earned a profit on day one, but lost that profit due to RRoD and similar issues where they had to set aside US$2b for said issues. XBO originally was making a profit on each console sold.

The difference here is that regardless of the profit they were making, they were not getting sales. And, so, they spent money to get them. That includes chipping away at what was in the box, adding free games, lowering the price, and then lowering the price and adding free games.

[frezhblunts]

In my opinion, I think Nintendo makes a lot of money from software since they make most of the game for their console, Nintendo just started making profit from wii u. Ps4 amazes me because I own it and it really isn't too special yet and still it is selling like crazy. I just got it because I knew after xbox 360 I was switching to ps4 and wii u

[Alsybub]

@cgoodno

I'll just leave this here. Google is a wonderful thing.

From Merryll Lynch in 2000 regarding PS2

"A quote from a Merrill Lynch financial analyst today estimated that Sony will lose approximately $180 (or 20,000 yen) for every PlayStation 2 unit sold."

From PC World in 2006 regarding PS3

"With a suggested retail price of $499, that would mean Sony is taking a loss of about $307 on each console it sells. The differential for the 60GB model is less, with the cost exceeding the price tag by $241."

[Christopher]

***"A quote from a Merrill Lynch financial analyst today estimated that Sony will lose approximately $180 (or 20,000 yen) for every PlayStation 2 unit sold." ***

And yet made a profit on all hardware in the first year...

***"With a suggested retail price of $499, that would mean Sony is taking a loss of about $307 on each console it sells. The differential for the 60GB model is less, with the cost exceeding the price tag by $241."***

I never said the PS3 was profitable in its first year.

[frezhblunts]

Oh okay shipped not sold I was about to say lol they didn't sell 5 million in one month. To think they had to reduce it as low as 350! Still I will not be getting it, it is not a bad console I am jealous of sunset overdrive but having the ps4 and wii u I have plenty to play. Right now my wii u has lots of games I got to buy and I am excited for some games coming to ps4

[XanderZane]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Hopefully, they will at least extend the price cut till the end of January. If they were smart, they would make it permanent at the E3 next year. It's amazing they went from 7 million shipped to 10 million shipped in such a short time period. They just need to ride this momentum through the rest of the year. A price drop in Europe/UK/Australia before X-Mas would be a smart move. That should help to move even more systems.

@Mr Pumblechook
You do realize that the sale is ONLY IN THE US. So of course it's not happening in Europe, UK, Australia or Japan. They haven't announced any sales in those areas yet. They don't really deserve them anyways since all they've done is bash and disrespect the system. I'm actually glad they waited. Microsoft is eager to take back the U.S., which will probably happen in the next 1-2yrs.

@HiddenMission
PS4 will probably take October, but XB1 will most likely take Nov & Dec. Phil never said the XB1 was selling better before the NPD. That was Patcher only. Everyone knows he's always wrong 75% of the time. People keep forgetting the Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 for 18 months straight in the U.S. Doesn't look like that will have with the PS4.

[xtremeimport]

Ive seen a lot of xboxs being purchased lately. Price drop has helped them tons. CoD and Halo hasn't hurt either.

Can't get over how they're selling the Kinect standalone for $150 though. Thats just outrageous.

[lifesanrpg]

I'm not surprised. Microsoft has had some great exclusives release these past few weeks and some VERY attractive bundles for the holiday season. With no price cut or bundles for the PS4, the Xbox One SHOULD outsell the PS4. Microsoft would be in a world of trouble if it didn't.

[Rimeskeem]

Ps4 does have bundles plus LBP3 and a huge far cry 4 deal

@darthv72

From what ive seen of Far Cry 4. It looks really fun. And this gameplay i saw was not from the devs but form actual people.

[darthv72]

far cry 4 as in ubisoft far cry 4? well that should be interesting considering the current situation with ubisoft.

you would think companies like sony and MS would want to deviate themselves away from ubisoft until they get their stuff together.

edit: optimism is a good thing to have. And i do hope FC4 turns out better than other ubisoft efforts as of late. Just have to wait and see.

[DragonbornZ]

If i'm not mistaken the PS4 does have a GTAV bundle, which will be huge too, but the Xbox One looks damn great this holiday exclusives, bundles, and pricing-wise.

[Majin-vegeta]

GTA V&TLOU with PS4 for $400

http://www.playstationlifes...

[Masterchief_thegoat]

Walmart you get xbox one tmcc bundle for $325

[XanderZane]

Xbox One will have a GTA V bundle as well. Probably won't be one in the US unless retailers offer it.

http://www.gamepur.com/news...

[etownone]

Really?

Who Is going to want to upgrade to a ps4 with last gen remakes games included?

I know ps4 is more powerful.

But the XB1 has the momentum with the better exclusives, better bundles, and price cuts thus holiday season.

[DoubleM70]

I'm not surprised either they were timing it perfectly. Should be a big boost to industry as a whole. Even though these Ponies are made about it, which I don't know why? We want these companies to push each other, so it would be a win win for us gamers.

[Ra3030]

I wonder if Sony has "sold in to retailers more than 20 million PS4 consoles"? Or 25 million? As it takes a whole lot of product to fill the shelves of retailers all over the world and let's be honest Microsoft has only a couple hotspots for sales outside the United States to worry about and the entire world is a PS4 hotspot.

[aviator189]

I believe Sony's quarter financials at the end of September (thanks for the heads up, Cupid Viper) revealed that Sony had shipped into retailers 13.5 million consoles.

[Cupid_Viper_3]

http://n4g.com/news/1613004...

It's actually at the end of "September" and not October. So from October until the end of December they will have shipped a few more millions.

But you should ignore the guy above you, he's clearly trolling with his "20-25 millioin PS4 shipped".

No worries Aviator.

On Topic. That's a lot of shipments. Some 4 million consoles shipped to retailers? Why flood the retail chains with so many unit? Last year, from November to December they shipped some 3.9 million consoles and had to drastically reduce shipments for the following 2 quarters. http://www.ign.com/boards/t...
http://bgr.com/2014/04/25/x...

Not that VGChartz is really anything to go by, but their weekly estimates for Xbox is 74,000. if you tripple that you get 222,000 units/week. Then if you time it by 4 weeks then you get a grand total of 880,000 units per month. In 2 months that's 1,78 million consoles. So let's say 2 million at best.

VGChartz best estimates puts them at 6.3 million units Globally, so 10 million units shipped would mean that they've shipped some 3.7 million units, almsot matching the numbers shipped for the previous holiday.

Are they going for a repeat of last year? Or are they trying to make it seem as though they've reached the 10 million mark they targeted at the reveal more than a year ago?

[mhunterjr]

why would retailers have order 25 million ps4s? It's selling damn well. But having that much stock would be wasteful.

[Spotie]

It could always be channel stuffing, like around this time last year. Which makes some sense if retailers are gonna be creating their own bundles alongside whatever games Microsoft throws out there.

[XanderZane]

The won't reach 20 million sold through this year. The original Wii did about 20.5 million it's first year. That will be very hard to bean for any game console.

[desertpunk86]

i just got the unity bundle with nba 2k15 i guess the $350 price tag works.

[TheFallenAngel]

I would be worried if it didn't. This is expected after price drop.

[hello12]

Shortly, we will have sold in to retailers more than 10 million Xbox One consoles.

Well guys thats 3 million more consoles than people thought. Sony confirmed 13 million shipped few weeks ago.

Surprising reveal from Microsoft.

Jukins@ Of course its a surprising reveal everyone thought it was only 7 million shipped so far. If they're going into 10 million mark retailers must be placing new orders why would they do that if the console wasn't selling they would not have the x box 1 sitting on shelves with nobody buying them. Sony confirmed 13 million shipped last month. Least we have some competition now.

[jukins]

why is it a surprising reveal? of course they would show off sales now that they've beat sony for a couple weeks. If this trend continues you can expect exact sales numbers where in the past they've avoided sales data for obvious reasons.

edit: not at anyone in particular but lol I swear this site is so full of fanboys. all i said is why is it a surprise that microsoft and that they beat sony for past two weeks in us and i get disagrees. LMAO nothing i said was incorrect, trolling, or baiting so why the disagrees. Sad fanboys are sad.

[PR_FROM_OHIO]

Wait I'm confused so if the XboxOne is closing in on 10 million then the PS4 is surely around 15 or 16 million right?? Bc The PS4 has been out selling the 1 for some time now hasn't it? Just saying

[4Sh0w]

Well of course their not going to tout sales when they don't sell more, Sony did the same for all those years of NPD 360 higher sales. It's just business I never saw Honda say hey look at our lower sales than Toyota, no they would just find other positive data to talk about. It's not hiding anything but when you're so called "losing" (even though in business sales are less important than profits) what do you expect them to say?

[LordMaim]

Microsoft hasn't beat Sony for a couple weeks. Microsoft hasn't beaten Sony this *year*. So I would have to say that yes, what you said was incorrect. As for trolling or baiting, that depends on if you were intentionally wrong to provoke people, or just mistaken.

[jukins]

@lord maim so microsoft is blatantly lying about the xb1 "led gen8 sales for past two weeks"? AS for the surprised part only fanboys wouldn't expect a $50 dollar price drop free new release game to not push xb1 past ps4 in the us. so again how was i incorrect? more like fanboys hating anything not positive towards sony lol. Funny thing is Im a playstation fan first but i also live in the real world.

[SkippyPaccino]

What I'm not understanding are Microsoft numbers... They said at the beginning of the year that they had shipped 5 millions consoles (not sold to a person), they consistently get outsold 2:1 in the USA (which is there strongest market) they get outsold 3:1 or more all around the world and now 7 months later they are claiming they doubled their shipped numbers to 10 millions? I'm not a math professor, but I can tell their numbers are fishy. If they are barely selling 200 000 units per month in their strongest market, how do we explain the other 515 000 console sold each month? We know it's not Japan... Europe accounts for a portion, but I don't see all of it... China? Probably not. If they were selling 715 000 consoles a month they would've bragged about it a long time ago.

[IrishSt0ner]

The problem is the 2:1 and 3:1 ratios are completely made up, and spewed as fact, clearly they've been completely wrong.

Coming from the horses mouth it's almost 10mil shipped for XBO and +13mil shipped for PS4.

It funny because now when people quote LOL charts and other overly optimistic figures one can say x1.3 TOTAL DOMINATION :)

[SkippyPaccino]

@irishstoner

Re-read exactly what he said and pay attention to the wording. He never mentioned they reached 10 millions shipped, they are approaching the 10 millions shipped mark. It could be 8.5 millions for all we know. They said they tripled their sales, triple what exactly? They are the best selling console in USA in the month of November, how would they know Sony numbers? Lol!

It's PR spin my friend. They are telling us this coincidentally right before NPD numbers are released. Probably means they lost October.

It's good that Microsoft is doing well, but I would read the fine print and read between the lines before shouting these numbers from a rooftop.

You don't just lose every monthly NPD result, European monthly results, Japanese monthly results and all of a sudden "bang" sold as much as Sony. Lol! The math doesn't add up and that's what concerns me with their statement.

I'm planning on getting the Xbox one next Christmas, but I feel like they've already counted my sell one year in advance.

[IrishSt0ner]

I know exactly what he said, that's why I used 'almost 10mil'. The triple sales thing means nothing, same as when they stated double sales after the horrible May figures.

I think we all know the PS4s lead is continuing to grow. My point is plain, here on N4G and other outlets people would have you believe 2:1 was fact with the possibility of 3:1 to come.

The reality is between 1.3x and an optimistic 1.6x. That's far from double.

Of course MS is spinning the hell out of the figures, but that doesn't detract from the notion that these figures are proof that all 2:1 comments are entirely false.

This shocked me as my view had been eroded by the constant negativity to where I thought Xbox was being completely dominated. Whenever they can say near 10mil you know it's way more than the 6mil people around here thought.

[zerog]

I'm seeing a lot of comments where people are saying why would retailers be ordering so many if they aren't selling? Has anyone stopped to realize the obvious that right now we are coming into the holiday season and in 2 weeks we have black friday and cyber monday coming up? Practically every store and website world wide are having deals and sales on all 3 new consoles over the next month and a half so yes this is exactly the time they order in more stock then usual because they expect to move them for the holidays. It doesn't necessaraly mean they are flying off the shelves and stores are restocking. Black friday alone stores are offering free games and online subs with price cuts on these things, so yeah they're going to be ordering a surplus for that. Walmart alone is having a 1 hour gaurantee on the x1 and ps4 which means everyone who shows up in that hour and wants 1 of those deals will be gauranteed to get 1 by xmas. When january and febuary comes and we see how many retailers are ordering then will tell the real story because they won't be ordering if there are still left overs from their xmas overstock.

[ThatOneGuyThere]

wtf does "shortly" mean?

[gangsta_red]

That is the only thing systems like the Xbox One and WiiU needs...excellent games to get them out of the sales slump.

It won't be the 1080p that sells a system, it will be the great amount of games and exclusives that will.

A couple of price drops won't hurt either ;)

[XabiDaChosenOne]

PS4 must have some great games than :-)

[imXify]

I can't remember the Xbox One being in a sale slump, just saying.

[Christopher]

You focus way too much on the games when we all know what's selling them at an increased rate is the massive price drop and the free game(s) with the bundles.

[Jughead3416]

10 Million shipped is impressive. But how many have they sold to customers? According to this chart in the link, there's still a lot of XBOX Ones on store shelves.

http://www.vgchartz.com/

[aviator189]

I highly doubt there are around 4 million xbox one consoles sitting on shelves. If that was true, no retailer would even be considering buying in xbox one consoles from microsoft. I think vgchartz has the xbone undertracked on their website.

@orbilator
"I also believe Sony only ever talk about sold through numbers and not shipped to retailers" -> go check out sony's last quarter financials. they mention "shipped." I don't believe I have that mixed up. Or you could just google search it.

[Orbilator]

Vgchartz is xbox biased so these numbers will be inflated if anything not under. I also believe Sony only ever talk about sold through numbers and not shipped to retailers

[mhunterjr]

Why would retailers order so many more consoles if they were having trouble selling the ones on the shelves?

[qwerty676]

interesting

i always knew it was doing well

all these doom and gloom articles and comments were a little ridiculous.

i hope all 3 consoles succeed this gen, its healthy and competition will keep Sony on their toes.

[DragonbornZ]

More like on the Ryse... heh heh...
Ok i'll go read the article now.

[thereapersson]

HA!

[Illusive_Man]

That is extremely impressive even if it is shipped because Sony a few weeks ago said they had shipped 13.5 million.

The gap could close if MS keeps pressing with great exclusives, compelling deals, and keeps the $350 price permanent. I think if they can ever get the Xbox 360 BC working they might also bring a lot of the users from 360.

Great time to be a gamer.

@ Majin-vegeta

And Sony Sold through 13.5 million? How do you know? Where did they say they sold through 13.5 million?

Their most recent statement was that they added 3.3 million shipped to bring their total to 13.5 million shipments. They never said they sold through to customer 13.5 million. Majority of businesses always report in shipped numbers.

Fanboys report on what they think the sold through numbers are.

Doesn't matter if Sony is the dominant brand. All MS has to do is get close. They win regardless. The company is experiencing a huge boom period.

Office is doing well.
Positive buzz around Win10 is swelling. Lots are excited about the new OS.
Azure/Enterprise is doing well as ever.
Onedrive is doing well.
Surface Pro 3 is doing very well.
Even the new Microsoft Band is doing extremely well and is a surprise gadget this year.

Get close and Xbox wins.

I think what's crazy is Sony fans think the Xbox One is selling so poorly it is still barely hovering over the 5 million sold through they announced a few months back. I mean seriously, you guys don't think the Xbox One has sold at all? And what's even crazier are the numbers people are putting out for the end of the year. 20-25 million PS4s by the end of the year? Yeah, it is a popular console but come on, that's crazy.

[Majin-vegeta]

Lol they still haven't sold 10 Mil.

we WILL have sold in to retailers more than 10 million Xbox One .

Also the Gap will never close as Sony is a dominant brand around the world.Where as Xbox is mainly US and some parts of Europes.

@Above Lol I didn't mention Sony's sales anywhere in my comment good grief.

[aviator189]

The gap will probably never close significantly, but that doesn't mean that second place xbox one or third place wii u can't be successful as well.

[tekksin]

they've loaded up retailers and now retailers are compelled to create "deals" wherein customers can help liquidate the massive stock of Xbox Ones Microsoft REFUSES to stop shipping out (just to have a high shipped number) by purchasing them for as little as $200 (BestBuy deal).

Microsoft is so transparent that they barely even exist at this point.

[coolvibu93]

That's a load of bullshit. Microsoft can't make shipments if the retailers are not buying them. And retailers won't buy new shipments as long as the old shipments have not mostly sold through. So logically, if MS have high shipments, if it selling well. Lol and you're implying MS is holding retailers at gunpoint forcing them to accept shipments? Haha

[JeffGUNZ]

@ Tekksin

You have absolutely zero knowledge on how a business runs and how they obtain their products. The store will BUY the product at a lower cost then the market retail. They then sell the product at said retail price. Do you really think MS just delivers hundreds of consoles and stores like Target have no idea until a big Xbox truck pulls into their loading dock? The store purchased them when they need more.

How can people be this uneducated about such basic things?

[corroios]

6 millions to 12 millions sold to gamers. Not even close.

[Dudebro90]

Math isn't your strong suit is it?

[Sandy_Claws]

Omg, his comment made me laugh.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Need a clear up.

"The response to this wave of blockbuster game releases and new bundles has been amazing, and sales have skyrocketed since the new price took effect on Nov. 2. Compared to the previous week, Xbox One sales in the US have more than tripled"

Does he mean the sales for the console has tripled in one week? A week after SOD released?

[MRMagoo123]

Yes it would seem its been selling triple for one week since the price drop.

[FITgamer]

Means if they sold 100k last week then they sold 300k this week. Week for week, not total sales.

[bleedsoe9mm]

thats a big number considering its before black friday and the christmas sales really kick in .

[FITgamer]

@bleedsoe I was using 100k as an example. If we use VGC numbers(yes i feel dirty) it means they sold around 220k in U.S. last week.

[Xavior_Reigns]

That's a much better figure, even if it is shipping numbers. Seriously though anyone who thought MS has sold only 5 million XB1's are fooling themselves (stupid VGC.) I'd say they're somewhere between 6.5-8 million sold. Anyways I hope XB1 puts pressure on the PS4, that way we'll get even more games from them (multiplatform FTW!)

[rainslacker]

It's reasonable to assume that they'll sell just as many X1's this holiday as they did last holiday(probably more with the much more attractive price point and bundles). They sold about 3 million consoles last holiday, so if you do some math, if MS has shipped 10 million and you subtract 3 million for the upcoming holiday, then they sold about 7 million consoles to date...again assuming that they expect to sell about the same number.

7 million is a reasonable number to assume, and probably is closer to 8 to be optimistic about it. I imagine they'll hit 10 million by the end of the year. They;ll probably have more shipments after thanksgiving as well.

On the Sony side of things, they shipped 13.5 by the end of september. If you use the same logic as above, it's reasonable to assume that they currently would have about 15-16 million total shipped to retailers to date, since retailers will want to be stocked up on PS4's this holiday as well. I think Sony might be more cautious to make sure that they have consoles for Q1 2015 though, since they have quite a few big releases during that time, and will not want to have a shortage like last year.

[ThatOneGuyThere]

this is a pretty sound assessment. XB1 isnt a total failure. its a mild success. Its just not as successful as the PS4. MS saying "soon we'll have shipped" its misleading a lot of people on this thread though. People are acting like those units are already sold. they wont be sold til the end of the holidays. PS4 hasnt included their holiday to be sold later numbers, because they dont have to. they're simply not that desperate.

[rainslacker]

Yeah, I think if both systems were selling what MS is selling right now, we'd all be saying how well consoles are selling overall this gen compared to prior gens. MS slumped there a bit in the summer which has helped PS since it remained pretty constant, but they're both selling better than last gen, or even the gen before. It's pretty abnormal historical for the first year of a consoles life to sell so much, on the other hand though the new consoles are cheaper comparatively than past gens.

[BitbyDeath]

Wow, that is impressive, so they've stuffed somewhere in the realm of 3-5 million in the channel?

[Sandy_Claws]

Yep, every single store in the world has approximately 10,000 xbox consoles sitting in their stockrooms. Even the mom and pop shops with a stockroom the size of a broom closet.

True story.

[tekksin]

Latest NPD:

PS4 - 260k (90k USA)
Xbox One - 145k (80K USA)

Umm... these figures are indeed a week old (nov 1st) but that says (definitively) that X1 has not "LEAD" the console sales market for a second week. Possibly one week tops so far. So stop lying, Microsoft. Knock it off.

[Benjammin25]

That's a good point. Well one of them is lying. I wonder if Microsoft meant that they outsold the PS4 for two weeks in shipped units? I'd lol if that was the case. :)

[Ginesis]

Where did you get those latest "NPD" numbers? I ask because NPD only reports on a monthly basis and two, they haven't reported on Microsoft's number in a while and Microsoft hasn't reported their numbers since the beginning of the year.

[tekksin]

vgcharts. Kinda the same thing.

[f50liv_imposter1]

they are leaked on reddit and gaf sometimes but i dont know about this one

[DEEBO]

Didn't they channel stuff last holiday? See the avi i got that was from last xmas at gamestop.

They might even with a month or two but then 2015 it will be the same again with ps4 selling more to customers not stores.

If you think that 5 million gap has closed you're living in lala land.
Everybody will have a great holiday but when sony has this generation won.

I bet anybody on this site that a free game of their choice that sony sells more worldwide this year.

And i would bet they win this generation and if i lose i will buy whomever takes the bet the xbox2 or whatever name they will give it.

[DLConspiracy]

"Everybody will have a great holiday but when sony has this generation won. "

"I bet anybody on this site that a free game of their choice that sony sells more worldwide this year. "

So this gen is over this December?

[DEEBO]

No it's not over but MS and the xbox brand has never won a console and i doubt they are going to win this one.

If you ain't 1st your last ricky Bobbie the legend

[DLConspiracy]

@DEEBO

Well looks like you have about 8 years to wait for the Xbox to catch up before you crown anyone just yet.

[AndrewLB]

DEEBO- Considering how Sony didn't turn a profit on the PS3 till 2010 and prior to that they took losses as large as $300/ps3.... and the fact that 360 sold roughly 40,000,000 games than PS3 over their lifetime... it's safe to say the PS3 got thumped. And FYI, i'm a PC gamer and not blinded by fanboyism.

[JeffGUNZ]

"If you ain't 1st your last".

Isn't Sony the company really close to going bankrupt?

[RyujiDanma]

damn that sony finger up there good

[ABeastNamedTariq]

Add me to the list soon (hopefully by Xmas). But I guess I don't want the AC bundle since it apparently runs like poo. Gotta find another one lol.

[gamertk421]

Get that halo mcc bundle from Walmart for 330, plus the 30 gift card (if you're in the states) on black Friday

[poppinslops]

So the xbox isn't doomed?

What about all those 'articles' that said devs and publishers would abandon it in droves?

Were those written by morons or is this news just another 'conspiracy'?

[MRMagoo123]

Maybe read the "news" they have sold well for a week or 2 since price drop and still havent gotten past the PS4 thats pretty crap no matter how many channels they stuff with consoles.

[rainslacker]

As soon as X1 hits 20 million then support is pretty much a given. Also depends on if people who own the console actually buy software as well.

[lemoncake]

They have a great game lineup this holiday and have been pumping out the updates like crazy, with the addition of plex the box actually now feels like a good media player solution. If they keep that up or better next year then I will be more than happy with my X1.

[Niv]

Shortly...

[corroios]

Lol, i cant believe that some gamers think that the xbox one sold more 2 or 3 millions in the US in two or tree weeks.

Is the xbox one selling good yes, but the PS4, PS3, Wii U, 3DS and so on will also sell alot, because its this time of the year.

What is hard is to sell big on the rest of the year.

[kevnb]

Of course they are selling more right now, it would be shocking if they weren't. Will it last though? And just because they convinced retailers to stock up on the temporary price cuts and bundles doesnt mean people are actually buying them.

[MrBeatdown]

This just goes to show you that with a little persistence, a price drop announced in advance to encourage people to wait for a certain week to buy, the release of multiple bundles that include the biggest games of the year for free, and retailers all over the country looking to stock up for Black Friday, you too can have a great increase in sales week over week and sell somewhere under 10 million units to retailers!

You just have to believe in yourself! You are the cloud power!

[Ezz2013]

Your comment...your avatar

i can't stop laughing

[04STIBluByU]

@ Mr. Beatdown...

That was the funniest comment I have ever read on this site...the other one was when the guy had the unchated logo from part 3 saying where are the xbox exclusives!

[Afterlife]

Good news for Microsoft, shipping that many consoles. I hope they sell.

Thanks to Halo, it will get a nice boost this month. This was planned because Halo is a popular brand. Nothing surprising.

[DoublePlusGoodGames]

As a PS4 owner, I went to three Best Buy stores to try and take advantage of the $150 console trade in offer but no stores had the Sunset Overdrive bundle. If any store I went to had the black and white XboxOne in stock, I would have taken the plunge.

It's now a battle between Wii U and XboxOne. If Wii U drops below $199, I'm in. If XboxOne gets more of those sweet Sunset Overdrive bundles out this holiday, color me a multi-console owner again.

[mochachino]

As a PS4 owner I'm not surprised. The $350 price tag very attractive plus youre getting 1-2 free new AAA releases making the console $289.99 in reality. Sony needed to match the price tag to stay on top of sales for November because all consumers really see $350 versus $400.

The price is so good even I'm tempted to buy an xone and I'm not even interested in its current exclusives.

[rainslacker]

If Sony can sell all they ship then there is no reason to drop the price. That's not how most companies work. In any case, Sony still has a comfortable lead to not have to react so much. They do have a few bundles coming out though.

But I agree, it would be better for the customer if Sony reacted a bit. If Sony went to $350 with a game, it would be a very interesting holiday sales wise.:) But if Sony can't keep up with the demand at that price, it wont happen.

[TimeSkipLuffy]

Currently I've seen many PS4s available at stores across Europe, Canada and USA. As someone who for a company that sells goods I rather sell everything I got than have my product sitting on the shelf. Also it will gain more attention of the media and make a hype to get one before Christmas. Also it is never bad to expand the advantage rather than sitting there, relying on the current sales and let the competition to play catch up. The higher your user base on console the more devs will consider to develop exclusively for the console or at least make it the lead platform.

[rainslacker]

Sure if they sell out then so be it, but they'd also rather sell out at full price, than lose $50 in revenue on each unit sold. Retailers may want to move units by offering discounts, but I can't see Sony dropping the price if they expect to sell all they can supply at $400-450(w/bundles).

Sony has a comfortable lead after the first year. They don't have to react too much. Support for the gen is pretty much a given for both consoles once they hit 20 million, and Sony has a ton of exclusive content from 3rd parties from Japan, with the overall advantage of multi-plat's being better this gen on PS4. For Sony right now,

I think they'd prefer to maximize revenue as they'll sell a lot during the holiday anyhow(even if MS outsells them), and then they'll likely have a great 1st quarter with some great games coming out the first three months of the year, which will help their yearly reports look very good for the PS division when the end of March rolls around.

[bleedsoe9mm]

Awesome holiday exclusives with a cheaper price than the competition is a great combination for the average consumer

[IQUITN4G]

I too recently made the plunge and got a Sunset white machine. Really though this is going to be my Halo box like before with 360 as I don't wish to miss out on a franchise I enjoy more than any other. I am currently enjoying Sunset more than I figured I would too

Gorgeous looking machine the white one

[pop-voxuli]

Wow the sales went from 5 to 6!!!

[Gamer777]

5 to 6 is tripling ?

[Sandy_Claws]

It's pretty obvious these idiots don't even read what they type in their apparent rush to leave out the bait and cause controversy.

[JMyers]

Well after two price cuts, the insane bundles and offers... if it wasn't on the rise then there would be a serious problem for MS and the X1. This shouldn't be a surprise.

[u got owned]

One price drop to be exact but yeah the price tag now its really tempting

[Yetter]

Technically no price drops. A different SKU and a 'temporary' sale. Guess we'll see how temp it really is after January

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

10 Million... Holy Crap, last I read they had 5-6million shipped! That's great, picking up steam!

[MRMagoo123]

They said soon to be 10 million shipped no idea as to when soon is it could be soon as in blizzard soon for all we know. I dont see shipping a lot of consoles as picking up steam anyway, its not like they are sales to people its only to the retail warehouses. The triple sales doesnt mean much either considering they had to give away free games along with launching their biggest game of the year Halo and reduce the console price, and I can bet they still get beaten world wide anyway.

[JeffGUNZ]

Man, you get so defensive over anything postive about the Xbox. You do realize MS cares about how much they ship to stores, yeah? They make their money there, as the stores by them when they need them. If anyone thinks stores get these systems without wanting them or needing them, they are clearly mistaken. Of course the numbers will increase. With the temp. price cut, bundles, and free game(s) with respected bundle, they will sell like hot cakes. Oh yeah, isn't Christmas coming, the busiest shopping season of the year? You don't think stores would stock up and expect these systems to sell with the deals MS is running around the holidays?

It's really like people on this website who go to college or are in high school think they know more about business and sales then high ends in the corporate world. It's real very funny to read these comments.

[Demoa]

master chief collections

[Smokingunz]

Congrats to MS, thats great news!.I mean at $350 with great games being bundled xboxes should be flying off shelves, id be surprised and it would be a wrap for MS if they couldnt move xbox ones at that price point. As much as I wanted to buy a ps4 (which I will buy when I have some extra cash) I bought a xbox1 because of the orice drop.

[Ch1d0r1]

Lots of consoles will be shipped, duh... Xmas and Black Friday is almost here!

[Spikeantestor]

For the life of me I can't understand why these articles get so much attention. Or, more specifically, why anyone thinks the console wars could be decided this early. The PS3 was lagging way behind for the first few years it was out and now the difference between it and the 360 is negligible. You just can't tell this early.

[xwilldemise]

Xbox One sales will catch up to the PS4 mark my words & this is coming from a PS4 owner & non Xbox One owner. Especially with the holiday season just starting & M$ has all this momentum. That being said I'm mostly saying this cause it's fact & to p1ss off people who would rather play sales than games to sort of justify their purchase. Seriously, are we all grown business men up in here? Ones that work for SONY & M$ for that matter?

[smellslikeralph]

Im happy both consoles are selling well and now the xbox one has picked up pace. I cant believe the hate for xbox on this site honestly.

Everyday i read comments its always ps fanboys bashing and wishing the demise of the console or worse.

Fanboys are really pathetic imo. Ive been debating leaving n4g and gaming media websites. It gets old

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Free games, price cut, I would hope sales would have increased.

[V0LT]

I believe it.. They are sold out pretty much in my area at a lot of the larger chains.

[Platinum_k]

i believe u..... NOT!

[DougLord]

For once I think both sides on here have a point.

Having your weekly sales increase 3x obviously shows that people are coming around on the value proposition of the Xone due to it being $50 cheaper then a PS4, and due to the release of 3 amazing exclusives in a single month.

However, winning the "sales battle" for 2 weeks, in just the US - that's not really going to move the needle in terms of how big a lead Sony has. Also, the 10mm shipped is a particularly BS stat this time of year. I agree with most Xbots that in general shipped = sold. BUT NOT IN NOVEMBER! This is the time that stores are stocking up for Black Friday. Millions of units of inventory are being built. If Sony talked about shipments instead of sales they would have 16-17 million shipped.

People need to stop worrying about the Xone vs PS4 battle. All that matters is Xone vs 360 and PS4 vs PS2.

[Flames76]

Damn 10 million shipped the X1 is on roll now.Number 1 pre order game Halo and the number 1 selling game last week Sunset Overdrive.Plus its been outselling the ps4 in america all november.People finally figured out the ps4 is a $400 indie console.Sony just released shipment figures of 13.4 million.Wow the X1 is right behind them with 10 million.Bad news for sony all the way around after reporting 1.2 billion loss last quarter.While the Xbox division profits was up yet again.I just stated facts on everything i just said so lets see how many negative downs i get for it from the sony fanboys

[MakinBaconXD]

Well,you're actually getting more agrees,which is actually strange. Probably sock accounts.

[xwilldemise]

Agreed , a SONY supporter here on Microsodt is killing it with their momentum. SONY NEEDS to deliver in December during their Playstation experience event if not I feel Microsoft will get ahead & I'll probably just switch sides & just use my PS4 for when Bloodborne releases.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Well Microsoft just claimed that they have yet to hit 10 million and here you are claiming they have, there goes one of your "facts".

[Yetter]

Nope, it can't be. So many people told me that the XB1 won't ever narrow the gap. Well these are the best numbers we've had to compare in awhile and it certainly seems like the gap is narrowing. 13.5 million PS4 shipped, 10 million XB1 shipped.

[joeorc]

Read it again! Key word is "Soon" the fact is that is Like saying they sold thatI will soon be 13 when you are 12 and a half.. yes its 6 months away before you would be 13 but it is "soon" does not mean much now does it?. which is like saying I'm already 13, but yet has not happened yet. And you do know Sony had 13.5 Million at the end of Sept! Its over that Now. "Soon" is not already happened like you are trying to imply.Now that means it has yet to happen, while Sony "has" already done the 13.5 At the end of Sept. But do not let facts get in the way of your ..LMAO carry on.

[josephayal]

Congrats MS, Love my X1

[talocaca]

Fire sales usually have that effect....look at the Black Friday bundle. $329 with a new game.

I don't think we've ever seen this kind of deal this early.

[WillyC009]

New to the community and I had to post because I couldn't help myself. Having said that selling 10M to retailers when you're overall sales to consumers is more around the 6-6.5M mark is excessive saturation on the market. Xbox must be banking on the special deals they're offering for black Friday and christmas holiday. What happens when they don't sell through to consumers all of these consoles? Will they go silent again come Feb/March/April on their sales figures? Contrary to what some people on here are saying in regards to 13.5M PS4's being sold. I do believe that was their estimate of sold through to consumers was it not? Anyways, just my random thoughts on the matter. Happy & safe holidays to everyone!

[ScaryMonkey]

LOL, appears the propaganda speak from Microsoft is on the rise as well. I love how they use Metacritic as a gauge for their games LOL, didn't realize Microsoft had become that desperate. And no surprise they pointed out the IGN info, IGN is a bought and paid for Microsoft site, what else were they going to say.

[ritsuka666]

''Almost 10 Million Shipped, and sales have tripled in the past two weeks''

http://www.reactiongifs.us/...

I call bullshit . Typical BS of MS.

[JeffGUNZ]

You do realize Christmas is coming, yeah? We are two weeks away from Thanksgiving and 15 days from black friday. The BUSIEST shopping season of the year, yeah? With the price drops, bundles, and deals, MS is killing it with all this heading into the busiest shopping season. Man, use your head once in a while. You don't think with all these deals, stores are not going to stock up on Xbox's for the holidays?!

[sovkhan]

NPD is just around the corner, get ready for a laugh!!!

[thanhgee]

Was the 13.5million that sony reported a few months ago shipped to retailer or to customers?

[JMyers]

Seems like a fire sale to me... the price will not go back up, this is just MS looking for momemtum and the XMAS push. No one will buy if the price goes back up in Jan.

10 millions PS4 sold through in August, 10 millions Xbox One shipped in november...I wonder what the gap is now worldwide?

[voodoogts]

PS4 sucks!

[xDHAV0K24x]

keep it up boys! let's go!

[Gunstar75]

Are some people on here stupid? Throwing their toys out the pram because MS are quoting units shipped into retailers??
Yes, of course it is different then units sold to end users, but do these stupid people think that MS just ship as many units as they want and to who they want?

Retailers ORDER units based on current sales and forecasts. No retailer with an ounce of business acumen will over order and have unsold units sat in storage. They are shipping these units because retailers are selling them. Supply and demand!

It's only right that xbox one pulls some sales back as they (IMO) have had the better product so far and Sony have failed to live up to the hype.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

Q. "When did gamers care about sales numbers"? -we read in comments all the time..

A. -when the xbox division goes on, and on about numbers, and nonsense.

[feedthereaper]

The difference between gamers and console makers is that gamers think it is some sort of race to an imaginary finishing line that declares a winner!
Console makers know that even if they are languishing far behind the competition because the competition is selling incredibly well out of the gate, that eventually the number of people who DON'T own a PS4 is going to get smaller and smaller and therefore sales will eventually slow down and dry up, whereas those without an Xbox One will be large and that any small price drop, exclusive game, new feature is surely going to convince a small proportion to buy that console AS WELL as the PS4 and so sales numbers will catch right back up.
It is the reason that Wii-U is on the go.... by gamers standards it would have died a death and failed the race after just 3 mega-disappointing weeks, but Nintendo know that its about selling numbers and playing the patient game trying to improve the appeal of the console to a greater audience and sales have picked up (although not to the levels I think they or anyone else wanted!)

At the end of the day, no matter how much better or more popular the PS4 is, at some point in time, no matter how long it takes, it WILL get to the point where there will be weeks it is outsold by the X1 based on the fact that the PS4 will have hit a saturation level where the number of potential new customers is far below those that already own it, while the X1 will attempt to level the playing field and still have a bigger market of non-X1 customers to aim it at!
As long as sales are IMPROVING, rather than dying a death, then the X1, no matter how many times the PS4 outsells it, is going to keep getting commitment, funding and support from investors, and only gamers and fanboys will be the losers in it all because they will still be cheering on for that imaginary finish line that never comes!

[JMyers]

Seems like the announce this for Nov, right before the Oct NPDs come out...

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

Their vision MUST expand beyond the USA... Or else winning the console war is an illusion!

[GodGinrai]

The 'console' war IS an illusion. perpetuated by fanboys and thirsty bloggers looking for clicks.

MS and sony (and nintendo) Just want to be profitable/successful with their devices.

[Platinum_k]

...on the RISE to FAILURE!

heheh jk

Microsoft like to pump out units knowing full well they wont get all sold to customers. Is this a marketing thing?

[horndog]

That's a lot butthurting in here. Just get your xone already.

[cyclindk]

About time, 350 is a solid price point, but a ridiculous 300 would have seen spectacular results I think.

The fight is on again

[DJ]

There's like 3 million Xbox One consoles sitting on store shelves. Only 6 million have been sold in total. There's a reason places like Target have dropped the price to $329. They can't get rid of the damn things.

[BIGBOSS08]

i would say it is closer to 7m but still.. what difference does that make. bottom line is xbox one isnt doing well.

[BIGBOSS08]

it doesnt take a genius to figure out xbox one sales were so low, any decent boost would look good for microsoft and look what it took to get them a boost in sales. not only that but they state 10m shipped before they even ship that amount? how desperate is that. what this means is by end of holidays, xbox one will have SHIPPED 10m units.. so still by the end of this year, the xbox one wont have sold 10m units whilst the PS4 will have shipped 20m+ and sold between 17-19m. microsoft can use fancy words all they like... PS4 is ripping the xbox one into pieces.

[phantomxll]

Wait. You just bashed a billion dollar company for predicting their shipment numbers and then you make your own prediction and were supposed to take you seriously.....LMAO! !!!!

[jmc8888]

No, they (Microsoft) stated it like it was a fact, and then backtracked.

So let's look at this again.

When you use sold-to-retailer numbers, you are exaggerating.

When you then artificially inflate those numbers....

You are exaggerating, the exaggeration.

That's what Microsoft did, and the guy you are commenting on, didn't do that....did he!

He made a guess to what Sony might sell based on sold-to-customers numbers. A very fair place to estimate something.

Also, why would anyone take him seriously, it's a post on a message board.

But Microsoft is a company, and their people officially told people an exaggeration of an exaggeration.

It's sad you don't see the difference. Not only on the level of exaggeration, but trying to equate a simple person on a message board to the same (actually you are holding them to a higher) standard then an official Microsoft employee.

LMAO!!!!

[xxmagicmanx]

Well I bought my console cuz I like it, not who's selling more and that's the Xbox One

[S2Killinit]

10 mil shipped in the future. that is very telling. /:

but I'm sure they are selling better now, with price drop and holiday. its expected.

[kenwonobi]

Its a good number for "shipped". They ought to be doing better. They are practically giving it away right now after numerous price drops in such a small amount of time.

[Jag-T1000]

If you havent bought one yet, its time to jump in!

[kungfuian]

They better be on the rise, it's between $350-$330 with x1-2 games thrown in; depending on where you buy. That's between $250-$290 for the system, which amounts to a staggering $110-$150 price reduction!

And that's paired with some really solid software, plus the typical increased sales due to holiday shopping patterns and the required/typical holiday channel stuffing (if your looking at shipped numbers).

The real questions now will be-

Will the momentum last into next year?
Will they keep the prices low after the holidays?
Will increased x1 sales amount to a decrease in ps4 sales or will Sony sell out too?
Will Sony come down in price to more directly compete?

On a personal note; I love the on the ropes xbox! As consumers we should all love it too (unless you bought one last year maybe). I was able to pick up a X1 brand new from a private seller for $250 and now have all three next gen systems :-)

[jmc8888]

What's funny is how matter of factly they proclaim this (the title's premise) but forget the obvious....

What season are we in? Anybody? Bueller?

Xmas season....

Did anyone think Xbox One sales (or any of the three) consoles to sell less during the Xmas buying season?

Now re-read the title.

So Xmas buying season, discount, free games = more sales...

Whocouldanode?

Anyone with a brain.

Now the next funny thing is how these morons are trying to claim through thought omission (i.e. not comparing this with any of their competitors) and trying to draw a conclusion.

What's worse is that some real morons latch onto this shoddy reporting and jump the shark into thinking that the Xbox One will storm back and take the lead pronto.

How shoddy is it for reporters (or those that pretend to be), state it is all because of a price drop, even though the price drop happened almost six months ago, and barely moved the needle, but somehow this $50 seasonal discount made the difference!

Then you throw in some more channel stuffing, sold-to-retailer numbers that were then exaggerated higher then they really are, and the farce is complete.

Microsoft even admits it's not at 10 million sold-to-retailers, but they said it, yet even after they clarified that it's not there, some people are desperate to run with that fake number!

There you have it folks. How shoddy reporting, Microsoft official exaggerations, and looney desperate console warriors meet up to form a perfect storm of idiocy.

The simple fact is, when you are in the Xmas buying season, that buying tide lifts all boats. But somehow the only ones who see fit to report on the rise are people that desperately want ONE console to win.

Also none of them mention what happens AFTER the buying season and the free perks dry up. Nor do they talk about what happens when Sony's early 2015 slate of exclusive games hits and Microsoft doesn't have anything to counter it. Nor any mention if Sony decides to do their own promotions or holiday/permanent price cut.

It's so sad we have wannabe reporters who create a reality where nothing that is reality exists, and only the variables they deem important seemingly effect the situation, whereas nothing they look the other way about can possibly effect the situation. Keep it up, your propaganda will surely get you a job at CNN/MSNBC/Fox News. It's of their quality of reporting.

[level 360]

Do believe their Christmas deals are really very enticing - great game bundles with honest-to-goodness price points.

Price with the bundle deals they offer over the store ( not on-line ) are very good compared to PS4.

[BABY-JEDI]

This is really good news for the consumer, us, the gamers as it increases competition which benefits all of us

[danny818]

the amount of ignorant comments against MS are astounding, especially the amount of upvotes they have. I for one many gamers are trying out the X1. Its a fun console. Like it or not.